2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (4 Viewers)

[mr. furley]

everyone is wrong. college football sucks. everyone got screwed. nothing is fair. none of these teams are going to try in their bowl games. we should abolish the system and come up with a new one that everyone hates even more.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Kyle McCord just entered the transfer portal.

Tough to blame him as the OSU fans and Day were ruthless on him. Day said he came up short on last possession vs Michigan. Not exactly a vote of confidence. Day seems to be getting paranoid and casting blame. Look in the mirror Ryan.

 

[Capella]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

 

[AAABatteries]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

On a scale of 1 to 10 how angry would you be if Bama wins it in controversial fashion while you guys beat UGA by 20?

To answer your question - no. But I’m not sure I realized more than one entity crowns a champion any more. Maybe ask a UCF fan if you can find one.

 

[whoknew]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

Absolutely. They should absolutely hang a banner in that scenario. Especially if they can get the AP or something to vote for them.

 

[Capella]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how angry would you be if Bama wins it in controversial fashion while you guys beat UGA by 20?

I mean there are too many variables at play, so hard to say. I do think we got the hardest opponent of all the 6 teams considered which is oddly hilarious.

To answer part of the question, if we beat UGA by 20 I will forever be mad. 14-0 with that kind of win at the end? Hang the banner. Teams have claimed titles for less.

 

[SWC]

every year i watch the selection show and every year i become more firm in my belief that college football is fun to watch but is a total sham the rankings in the year mean nothing and its all about money and perception no way in hell should alabama be in the final four this year and no way in hell should a power five conference champ with no losses be outside its ridiculous and this excuse about florida states quarter back being hurt is stupid guys who were technically backup qbs have won the national championship game four times in the last 9 years its just lame and a total cop out and no one from alabama should feel any pride in being in it this year its a sham and if they win it is a huge asterick forever and look at the bowl games outside of the finals too you have three 11 win teams who didnt get a new years day bowl along with a 10 win team and a 9 win team its all about money and perception so i am glad that the current format it gone and well go to more of a ncaa basketball like tournament format but i would like to see everyone on the committee fired on the way out so they never get to touch this thing again take that to the bank bromigos

 

[SWC]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how angry would you be if Bama wins it in controversial fashion while you guys beat UGA by 20?

I mean there are too many variables at play, so hard to say. I do think we got the hardest opponent of all the 6 teams considered which is oddly hilarious.

To answer part of the question, if we beat UGA by 20 I will forever be mad. 14-0 with that kind of win at the end? Hang the banner. Teams have claimed titles for less.

thats intentional too they want florida state to lose to uga so that they can sleep better at night and say see told you take that to the bank bromigo

 

[Capella]

Maybe ask a UCF fan if you can find one.

Also the UCF thing is still funny but most major programs have done this. Most of Alabama’s titles from pre-integration are disputable. Lot of teams like that.

 

[Da Guru]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

Why not? UG is as good as any team in the playoffs.

 

[3C's]

If this was early Nov and GA loses to Bama, do they fall from #1 to #6? In 2021 Bama lost to an unranked team and only dropped to #5.

 

[The Commish]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

AP can name whomever they want right? The Coaches' Poll had to sign on and agree with the results of the CFP I believe. There's always been the opportunity of a split title. No reason to think they couldn't. There are schools that stand proud of "championships" they count today that are based on far less.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Never in my lifetime did I ever think I would see a Florida State team go undefeated 13-0 and be left out of a 4 team Playoff

-it's hard to wrap your head around.
I could see Alabama being put in but Texas in no way should have been moved into No 3 ahead of FSU
They have ruined college football with this committee vs the results on the field

IT'S a SHAM!

 

[gump]

The ACC proved their worth to FSU…especially vs the B12 and SEC. Expect FSU to react accordingly.

 

[SWC]

i would also like to point this out because in general i think the ncaa is run like a complete crap show but think about this the committee held it against florida state how they played with their third string qb in a game that they won and their defense was absolutely incredible so why were they on their third string quarterback well because the second string quarterback who had been doing well was put into the concussion protocol after being hurt on a targeting play and because he was in the concussion protocol the ncaa said he had to sit out for the championship game against lousville and then held it against florida state that he didnt play that right there is some major league bullyouknowwhat talk about manufacturing a reason to genuflect at the alter of saban take that to the bank bromigos

 

[SWC]

also the acc was 6 and 4 against the sec this year take that to the bank brochachos

 

[Todem]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

It is. That damn defense could have won those two playoff games 20-10 style with that running game if Rodemaker played turnover free ball. Plenty of teams have won with defense. Yesterday I kinda just shrugged it off bc it’s all a sham but today I feel angry for the players. Totally ridiculous.

Yeah to me it’s a sham on those kids playing the game. The kids earned it.

 

[Capella]

AP can name whomever they want right?

Yes and a lot of writers seem outraged by this but who knows if they will care still 6 weeks from now.

 

[Capella]

The ACC proved their worth to FSU…especially vs the B12 and SEC. Expect FSU to react accordingly.

Gotta think this is gonna happen soon. The head of the committee was the NC State AD! I mean holy ****.

 

[The Commish]

AP can name whomever they want right?

Yes and a lot of writers seem outraged by this but who knows if they will care still 6 weeks from now.

I think they'd care. If not, I'd still hang something. It's absurd. Wondering if this trainwreck accelerates the timeline for leaving the ACC though. I've heard rumblings for months that they really are looking at moving on. ESPN/ABC is all in on the SEC. That can't be ignored any longer and the ******** they throw out is officially worthless at this point.

 

[Todem]

But the fact is, there is a process and it's the process they've used for a while now

There is the process laid out, but it is absolutely false that they have used it for a while. This is the first time they’ve done this. They literally took the worse looking team with less losses just last year.

Their process is whoever they want to choose - so yes, they've used it. It's just a horrible process that doesn't really have a better one. Especially when the group of people picking it aren't infallible and won't always make the correct selections. Look, I feel really bad for you and other FSU fans and really bad for their team but you even said you don't think FSU is one of the four best teams. Now imagine someone who is maybe a little or a lot biased against the ACC or for the SEC and they think the same. It's an obvious decision that person might come to. I'm personally biased for the ACC and I would have left FSU out.

I am not even an FSU fan.....in fact the only time I root for them.....is when they play:

Florida
Notre Dame
Alabama

Other than that......it makes no difference to me.

What I am a fan of is the kids who busted their asses all season to go 13-0, overcome the loss of their senior leader and QB and yet still won their conference (yeah it’s not the SEC but come on now) and deserved to be playing for a chance at a perfect season and a National Championship. FSU has high caliber talent.

This was highway robbery for those kids and coaches.

Alabama has been skating by all year vs top tier talent and lost to a team in the dance.

This is clearly all about ratings......the process is BS.

Thank god it will be expanded to more teams so this kind of BS can be limited.

Go BLUE!!!!!!

 

[Brunell4MVP]

12 of the top 13 ranked teams will be in the SEC or B10 next year. Let that sit for a moment. All other conferences are going to become meaningless. The ACC champ and one other conference champ are likely to get into a 12 team playoff, but everyone else is out.

So what's the next move for the ACC and B12. I gotta think they either join forces or the ACC finds a way through the buyout clause hurdles and disbands entirely, with a number of schools going to the B10 or SEC. And a few being left out entirely.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The idea that a 10 point win against a top 15 team with your 3rd string QB is not only a bad win, but a terrible enough win that it knocks you out of the playoff, is ridiculous, btw. And before anyone says "well Louisville's offense sucks" keep in mind they scored 33 points against Notre Dame, 31 against Kentucky.

Who cares if it was ugly? Does no one remember how much we all wanted to rip our eyes out watching that Michigan/PSU game that looked like it was straight out of 1917? Or watching Alabama/LSU play those 9-6 games years ago when they were playing in the BCS title games but hadn't figured out how to recruit a competent QB yet?

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

 

[SWC]

i love that the committee allegedly held it against florida state that they didnt beat their in state rival florida big enough with a backup qb playing for florida state but alashama needed a miracle to beat its in state rival auburn with its starting qb playing and that apparently didnt matter what a sham and from now on alabama is alashama take that to the bank brochachos

 

[gianmarco]

But the fact is, there is a process and it's the process they've used for a while now

There is the process laid out, but it is absolutely false that they have used it for a while. This is the first time they’ve done this. They literally took the worse looking team with less losses just last year.

Their process is whoever they want to choose - so yes, they've used it. It's just a horrible process that doesn't really have a better one. Especially when the group of people picking it aren't infallible and won't always make the correct selections. Look, I feel really bad for you and other FSU fans and really bad for their team but you even said you don't think FSU is one of the four best teams. Now imagine someone who is maybe a little or a lot biased against the ACC or for the SEC and they think the same. It's an obvious decision that person might come to. I'm personally biased for the ACC and I would have left FSU out.

I am not even an FSU fan.....in fact the only time I root for them.....is when they play:

Florida
Notre Dame
Alabama

Other than that......it makes no difference to me.

What I am a fan of is the kids who busted their asses all season to go 13-0, overcome the loss of their senior leader and QB and yet still won their conference (yeah it’s not the SEC but come on now) and deserved to be playing for a chance at a perfect season and a National Championship. FSU has high caliber talent.

This was highway robbery for those kids and coaches.

Alabama has been skating by all year vs top tier talent and lost to a team in the dance.

This is clearly all about ratings......the process is BS.

Thank god it will be expanded to more teams so this kind of BS can be limited.

Go BLUE!!!!!!

And, again, it bears mentioning that the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year.

 

[gump]

12 of the top 13 ranked teams will be in the SEC or B10 next year. Let that sit for a moment. All other conferences are going to become meaningless. The ACC champ and one other conference champ are likely to get into a 12 team playoff, but everyone else is out.

So what's the next move for the ACC and B12. I gotta think they either join forces or the ACC finds a way through the buyout clause hurdles and disbands entirely, with a number of schools going to the B10 or SEC. And a few being left out entirely.

2 super conferences by ‘26…

 

[Todem]

But the fact is, there is a process and it's the process they've used for a while now

There is the process laid out, but it is absolutely false that they have used it for a while. This is the first time they’ve done this. They literally took the worse looking team with less losses just last year.

Their process is whoever they want to choose - so yes, they've used it. It's just a horrible process that doesn't really have a better one. Especially when the group of people picking it aren't infallible and won't always make the correct selections. Look, I feel really bad for you and other FSU fans and really bad for their team but you even said you don't think FSU is one of the four best teams. Now imagine someone who is maybe a little or a lot biased against the ACC or for the SEC and they think the same. It's an obvious decision that person might come to. I'm personally biased for the ACC and I would have left FSU out.

I am not even an FSU fan.....in fact the only time I root for them.....is when they play:

Florida
Notre Dame
Alabama

Other than that......it makes no difference to me.

What I am a fan of is the kids who busted their asses all season to go 13-0, overcome the loss of their senior leader and QB and yet still won their conference (yeah it’s not the SEC but come on now) and deserved to be playing for a chance at a perfect season and a National Championship. FSU has high caliber talent.

This was highway robbery for those kids and coaches.

Alabama has been skating by all year vs top tier talent and lost to a team in the dance.

This is clearly all about ratings......the process is BS.

Thank god it will be expanded to more teams so this kind of BS can be limited.

Go BLUE!!!!!!

And, again, it bears mentioning that the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year.

But FSU is 13-0.

Makes no difference to me......they earned the right.

I can guarantee you if this was Clemson.....they would have been in.

 

[Capella]

AP can name whomever they want right?

Yes and a lot of writers seem outraged by this but who knows if they will care still 6 weeks from now.

I think they'd care. If not, I'd still hang something. It's absurd. Wondering if this trainwreck accelerates the timeline for leaving the ACC though. I've heard rumblings for months that they really are looking at moving on. ESPN/ABC is all in on the SEC. That can't be ignored any longer and the ******** they throw out is officially worthless at this point.

Yea fsu was always going to leave the acc but this will expedite things. If nothing else, this must be very very good for fundraising that goal.

 

[gianmarco]

But the fact is, there is a process and it's the process they've used for a while now

There is the process laid out, but it is absolutely false that they have used it for a while. This is the first time they’ve done this. They literally took the worse looking team with less losses just last year.

Their process is whoever they want to choose - so yes, they've used it. It's just a horrible process that doesn't really have a better one. Especially when the group of people picking it aren't infallible and won't always make the correct selections. Look, I feel really bad for you and other FSU fans and really bad for their team but you even said you don't think FSU is one of the four best teams. Now imagine someone who is maybe a little or a lot biased against the ACC or for the SEC and they think the same. It's an obvious decision that person might come to. I'm personally biased for the ACC and I would have left FSU out.

I am not even an FSU fan.....in fact the only time I root for them.....is when they play:

Florida
Notre Dame
Alabama

Other than that......it makes no difference to me.

What I am a fan of is the kids who busted their asses all season to go 13-0, overcome the loss of their senior leader and QB and yet still won their conference (yeah it’s not the SEC but come on now) and deserved to be playing for a chance at a perfect season and a National Championship. FSU has high caliber talent.

This was highway robbery for those kids and coaches.

Alabama has been skating by all year vs top tier talent and lost to a team in the dance.

This is clearly all about ratings......the process is BS.

Thank god it will be expanded to more teams so this kind of BS can be limited.

Go BLUE!!!!!!

And, again, it bears mentioning that the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year.

But FSU is 13-0.

Makes no difference to me......they earned the right.

I can guarantee you if this was Clemson.....they would have been in.

I'm 100% on the FSU got hosed and should be in.

I think you didn't quite get what I was saying. I bolded the part of your post ("yeah it's not the SEC but come on now) and was pointing out that the ACC actually had a better record against the SEC. That was meant to further add weight to the FSU case.

 

[Summer Wheat]

But the fact is, there is a process and it's the process they've used for a while now

There is the process laid out, but it is absolutely false that they have used it for a while. This is the first time they’ve done this. They literally took the worse looking team with less losses just last year.

Their process is whoever they want to choose - so yes, they've used it. It's just a horrible process that doesn't really have a better one. Especially when the group of people picking it aren't infallible and won't always make the correct selections. Look, I feel really bad for you and other FSU fans and really bad for their team but you even said you don't think FSU is one of the four best teams. Now imagine someone who is maybe a little or a lot biased against the ACC or for the SEC and they think the same. It's an obvious decision that person might come to. I'm personally biased for the ACC and I would have left FSU out.

I am not even an FSU fan.....in fact the only time I root for them.....is when they play:

Florida
Notre Dame
Alabama

Other than that......it makes no difference to me.

What I am a fan of is the kids who busted their asses all season to go 13-0, overcome the loss of their senior leader and QB and yet still won their conference (yeah it’s not the SEC but come on now) and deserved to be playing for a chance at a perfect season and a National Championship. FSU has high caliber talent.

This was highway robbery for those kids and coaches.

Alabama has been skating by all year vs top tier talent and lost to a team in the dance.

This is clearly all about ratings......the process is BS.

Thank god it will be expanded to more teams so this kind of BS can be limited.

Go BLUE!!!!!!

And, again, it bears mentioning that the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC this year.

But FSU is 13-0.

Makes no difference to me......they earned the right.

I can guarantee you if this was Clemson.....they would have been in.

No doubt Clemson would be in.

Question is they have kept Washington out at 13-0 if Penix got hurt last game? Or Michigan at 13-0 if McCarthy got hurt vs Iowa? Since they are the other teams without a loss that is a reasonable comp.

 

[AAABatteries]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

 

[Todem]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

 

[AAABatteries]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

 

[timschochet]

And before anyone says "well Louisville's offense sucks" keep in mind they scored 33 points against Notre Dame, 31 against Kentucky.

Wait until you see what they do to USC

 

[3C's]

Things we knew before Saturday: SEC and B1G were getting in and someone was getting screwed/gonna be mad. And here we are.

 

[-OZ-]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

You clearly didn't watch Michigan State play this year.

Or Nebraska.

People always forget about Vanderbilt.

 

[AAABatteries]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

You clearly didn't watch Michigan State play this year.

Or Nebraska.

People always forget about Vanderbilt.

Yeah, I think Vandy had the worst record (and were probably the worst) P5 school this season. Sorry @hagmania

 

[jm192]

also the acc was 6 and 4 against the sec this year take that to the bank brochachos

It's true. I also think it's a little bit of a misleading stat.

FSU beat a 5-7 Florida team. Wake Forest beat a 2 win Vanderbilt team. UNC beat a 5-7 South Carolina. Clemson beat the same 5-7 South Carolina team.
FSU did have a really good win vs LSU, who is the 5th best team in the SEC.

On the flip side,

The ACC's 2nd best team, Louisville, lost to a very mid Kentucky team.

The SEC finished with 5 teams in the top 15 of the CFP. The ACC had 2. I don't think the ACC beating up on the SEC teams with losing record proves the ACC is a superior conference.

 

[jm192]

The idea that a 10 point win against a top 15 team with your 3rd string QB is not only a bad win, but a terrible enough win that it knocks you out of the playoff, is ridiculous, btw. And before anyone says "well Louisville's offense sucks" keep in mind they scored 33 points against Notre Dame, 31 against Kentucky.

Who cares if it was ugly? Does no one remember how much we all wanted to rip our eyes out watching that Michigan/PSU game that looked like it was straight out of 1917? Or watching Alabama/LSU play those 9-6 games years ago when they were playing in the BCS title games but hadn't figured out how to recruit a competent QB yet?

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Maybe.

I do think the SEC>ACC belief is fueled when the ACC's 2nd best team loses to a very middle of the pack Kentucky team.

 

[The Commish]

Does no one remember how much we all wanted to rip our eyes out watching that Michigan/PSU game that looked like it was straight out of 1917?

I don't know what you're talking about....that sort of dominance should be revered and aspired to!!!!!!!

 

[Todem]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

Oh I think if GA had won.....FSU would be in.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

Have you watched one snap of liberty football this year?

Nope. Am I being unfair? Possibly, And it’s a single game so theoretically anything could happen. Oregon could fumble several times and play terrible and who the hell knows?

But at least on paper it’s easily the worst matchup in recent bowl history. Liberty is not Tulane; they should be crushed by Tulane. Or San Jose State.

In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about and just throwing poo off the wall to see what sticks.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The NFL should have replaced the Eagles in the playoffs that year Carson Wentz got hurt (and Foles won the Super Bowl). A team just isn't the same without their QB.

Does anyone here believe ESPN wasn't heavily involved in forcing Alabama/SEC into the playoffs?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I've watched Liberty a few times this year. Oregon's liable to blow their doors off just because of the size difference and top-to-bottom talent discrepancy.

But Liberty has some really good players, are a good team, and are well-coached. They could absolutely beat mid- and bottom-tier teams in the P5 conferences. Hell, they might be favored in a few of those games.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Well, damn @Osaurus

Our teams got slotted on the same day, but in different bowls.

 

[AAABatteries]

Stephen A. says FSU would have gotten in the playoff if Deion was their coach.

 

[3C's]

Stephen A. says FSU would have gotten in the playoff if Deion was their coach.

He's annoying but might not be wrong. All about the TV ratings (hence SEC and B1G get in) and he would bring those eyeballs.

 

[AAABatteries]

Stephen A. says FSU would have gotten in the playoff if Deion was their coach.

He's annoying but might not be wrong. All about the TV ratings (hence SEC and B1G get in) and he would bring those eyeballs.

Well, I'd say he's wrong because FSU wouldn't be 13-0 but I get the notion that it's about money and ratings. Generally, I just think Stephen A. is a blowhard and I found that one to be hysterical.

 

[3C's]

Stephen A. says FSU would have gotten in the playoff if Deion was their coach.

He's annoying but might not be wrong. All about the TV ratings (hence SEC and B1G get in) and he would bring those eyeballs.

Well, I'd say he's wrong because FSU wouldn't be 13-0 but I get the notion that it's about money and ratings. Generally, I just think Stephen A. is a blowhard and I found that one to be hysterical.

I didn't see it but I was thinking he meant IF they 13-0 and had Sanders as the coach they would be in the playoff.

 

[General Malaise]

I've watched Liberty a few times this year. Oregon's liable to blow their doors off just because of the size difference and top-to-bottom talent discrepancy.

But Liberty has some really good players, are a good team, and are well-coached. They could absolutely beat mid- and bottom-tier teams in the P5 conferences. Hell, they might be favored in a few of those games.

I haven't watched a lick of Liberty so I have no idea what they'll bring to this game but I have a hard time believing Oregon shows up at all in this one. Quite a let down and I would probably take Liberty and the points were I interested enough to wager on it. Maybe I'll be wrong and Oregon finishes strong but I have to imagine more than a few of those kids are deflated.