2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (1 Viewer)

[Yenrub]

If the SEC gets left out, Finebaum might have a coronary. This must happen

Finebaum might submit an ordinance of secession and try to start the 2nd civil war

 

[Jayded]

One more consideration is the committee’s logic is circular. That Bama gets credit for more top wins is because the committee thinks they are better teams, but the SEC had a pretty bad OOC record this year.

If conferences had stayed more closed loop, sure the SEC on the field has shown for a while it is full of talented teams. But this year, it was not the same SEC. It does need to be considered that the SEC reputation cannot overrule the on-field results.

I will always favor H2H over all else with other things being equal (losses, conference champs). Next year the debate is 12/13 so we should have less fundamental concern at the top, but I like the regular season mattering and H2H carrying the most weight. Only part I’d give is they generally say home field is worth ~3 points, so a FG H2H win by the home team at least introduces a question. More than that, it was settled.

 

[Capella]

Also, fsu had more total yards tonight than Michigan did. Ok, I gotta sleep.

 

[Desert_Power]

there are going to be some epic hot takes in the next couple of days.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

For the record I say it will be Michigan - Texas in the rose and UW - FSU in the sugar. Bad break for UW if that happens at least for travel. Will be an FSU home game in there.

Dawg fans travel pretty well. But, yeah, I’d rather go to Pasadena.

 

[mr. furley]

SIU v Idaho in the FCS playoffs is kind of amazing

the... arena? is just long enough to hold the 100 yard field. it looks like a 50s era airplane hangar.

 

[culdeus]

If you want the best games it's Bama Texas Georgia Michigan. Florida State is a bye with that QB situation. This is by far the worst situation the committee has been in and I think Texas takes the title. It's an sec title anyways.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Iowa’s running TE screens down 20 with one quarter left.

And they said Iowa wouldn't open up their offense.
-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Based on the preponderous of disliked and loathsome teams in the playoff it's basically go Huskies all the way for me.
-QG

 

[Moe.]

Alright I promise I’m not reading it incorrectly this time

Fanduel
Florida St Yes -500 / No +360
Texas Yes -300 / No +235
Alabama Yes +118 / No -144
Georgia Yes +1500 / No -5000

DK
Florida St Yes -400 / No +250
Texas Yes -300 / No +220
Alabama Yes +100 / No -130
UGA Yes +1200 / No -4000

 

[need2know]

Sec is still the best the conference and to keep the champ out is ridiculous. The hate is unreal. No other conference is close

 

[Moe.]

Sec is still the best the conference and to keep the champ out is ridiculous. The hate is unreal. No other conference is close

Ok. So who do you leave out?

You have to do one of these things:

• Leave out an undefeated P5 team
• Leave out a one-loss P5 champ that beat the SEC champ on the road by 10 points
• Leave the SEC out of the playoff

All three are not great, but you gotta pick one. Yes, the SEC is probably the best conference (personally I’d go PAC 12) this year and has been the most dominant conference of this era, but walk me through their best non-conference wins. Kansas State? Tulane? Georgia Tech? This isn’t a beauty contest, we have to make the best decision based on what happened on the field this year.

 

[need2know]

Sec is still the best the conference and to keep the champ out is ridiculous. The hate is unreal. No other conference is close

Ok. So who do you leave out?

You have to do one of these things:

• Leave out an undefeated P5 team
• Leave out a one-loss P5 champ that beat the SEC champ on the road by 10 points
• Leave the SEC out of the playoff

All three are not great, but you gotta pick one. Yes, the SEC is probably the best conference (personally I’d go PAC 12) this year and has been the most dominant conference of this era, but walk me through their best non-conference wins. Kansas State? Tulane? Georgia Tech? This isn’t a beauty contest, we have to make the best decision based on what happened on the field this year.

Michigan
Washington
Bama
Texas

 

[timschochet]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

 

[loser]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

 

[Deamon]

It sucks that they're going from not enough playoff teams, to too many playoff teams. 8 is so perfect and I don't know why they can't just do that.

 

[timschochet]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

 

[pollardsvision]

Sec is still the best the conference and to keep the champ out is ridiculous. The hate is unreal. No other conference is close

Ok. So who do you leave out?

You have to do one of these things:

• Leave out an undefeated P5 team
• Leave out a one-loss P5 champ that beat the SEC champ on the road by 10 points
• Leave the SEC out of the playoff

All three are not great, but you gotta pick one. Yes, the SEC is probably the best conference (personally I’d go PAC 12) this year and has been the most dominant conference of this era, but walk me through their best non-conference wins. Kansas State? Tulane? Georgia Tech? This isn’t a beauty contest, we have to make the best decision based on what happened on the field this year.

Michigan
Washington
Bama
Texas

Tough call, but that's what I'd bet on.

Committee will use the FSU QB being hurt to do what they wanted to do anyway.
SEC will not be left out, and it has to be Bama. You can't have Bama without Texas (one would think).

 

[fantasycurse42]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

MI
WA
FSU
BAMA

 

[Tom Servo]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

 

[FairWarning]

It sucks that they're going from not enough playoff teams, to too many playoff teams. 8 is so perfect and I don't know why they can't just do that.

It may devalue the importance of late season and conference championship games also.

 

[FairWarning]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

 

[Tom Servo]

For the record I say it will be Michigan - Texas in the rose and UW - FSU in the sugar. Bad break for UW if that happens at least for travel. Will be an FSU home game in there.

This.

 

[Tom Servo]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

If they were tied for a spot in a conference championship game, head to head is the first tie breaker…which Bama loses. Full stop, end of story.

 

[-OZ-]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Ok. The key there is IF. which it isn’t.

Objectively, a very strong case is made for Texas. It would be perfectly acceptable.

But you know there is another argument for a ten game win streak and better wins and there’s a reason Texas is heading to the SEC. A huge part of that is money of course but the money is there at least partly because the conference is better.
People can hate the SEC all they want, but the conference is king of football. Winning it matters more than any other conference.

I really don’t know what they’ll decide but this isn’t as easy as some want to think.

 

[-OZ-]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

 

[Galileo]

I dislike both Texas and Alabama, but both certainly have a case to be made. I say we skip all the arguments and throw the unbeatens in there. Let's go FSU and Liberty!!! It will be a funny goodbye to the 4 team playoff format.

 

[Ghost Rider]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

And then why not put in Georgia over Alabama? If one result doesn't matter and Texas beating Alabama isn't a deciding factor, then Alabama beating Georgia shouldn't be one either.

 

[elguapo07]

If they say Bama is in over Texas, just shut it down. H2H has to matter vs “I feel…”

I agree and I want Texas in but Oklahoma beat Texas, so why not Oklahoma over Texas? Because Texas has a better overall resume so that trumps OU's H2H win?

Well on that front, Bama beat 3 top 15 teams and lost to #6. Texas beat 1 top 15 team and lost to #12.

That one is easy - OU has two losses. Bama and Texas have the same number of losses and are both conference champs. The factor that should matter is they played AND they played at Bama and we know who won.

Bama’s argument would have more validity if it was at Texas IMO. With it being st Bama, there’s no excuse.

There's no hard and fast rule about losses. Losses are just a part of a resume. Teams are ranked ahead of other teams that have fewer losses all the time. liberty has fewer losses than Texas. So is it resume, or is it H2H?

I'm playing devil's advocate here a bit because, like I said, I think it should be Texas. if the goal is the 4 best teams, who would win on a neutral field between Bama and Texas? Well Texas won by 10 on a non-neutral field at Alabama, so I think we've answered that. So I want Texas, for the same reason I've been consistent in the past with the same argument about not having both OSU/Mich in, or not having both UGA/Bama in, etc.

Plus, **** Alabama.

But in the past the committee has made it clear that they look for the 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily the 4 best. And if you're going just on resume, it seems like Bama's is clearly better with both significantly better wins and a "better" loss. So that's why I see them getting in in the end, even though I personally think it should be Texas.

From ESPN today.

Will the committee choose the four best ... or most deserving? "It is best," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said Tuesday. "Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind: best teams."

Based on this FSU should be out and UGa may still be in play but have to go with Mich UW Bama UT

 

[Instinctive]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Didn't they both win all but one? lol.

 

[Tom Servo]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Ok. The key there is IF. which it isn’t.

Objectively, a very strong case is made for Texas. It would be perfectly acceptable.

But you know there is another argument for a ten game win streak and better wins and there’s a reason Texas is heading to the SEC. A huge part of that is money of course but the money is there at least partly because the conference is better.
People can hate the SEC all they want, but the conference is king of football. Winning it matters more than any other conference.

I really don’t know what they’ll decide but this isn’t as easy as some want to think.

This scenario is pretty much the same thing.
If you’re going to put the Tide in despite getting beat at home by double digits by another conference champion, then you’re destroying the argument for tough OOC games. Why take the risk when we can run a baby poop soft schedule, win the conference and get in anyways? To want tough OOC schedules but then not have it matter is talking out of both sides of your mouth. Essentially, your argument is “because we’re Alabama, duh”.
FTR, this argument happened in division 3 when the playoff berths were announced. After the selection committee emphasized SoS and then pretty much went away from it in awarding the four at-large bids, people were rightly upset that schools playing D3 powers in the WIAC (for example) and winning were not rewarded.

 

[-OZ-]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

And then why not put in Georgia over Alabama? If one result doesn't matter and Texas beating Alabama isn't a deciding factor, then Alabama beating Georgia shouldn't be one either.

Do you really not see a difference between losing on September 9 and losing in the SEC championship on December 2?

 

[-OZ-]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Ok. The key there is IF. which it isn’t.

Objectively, a very strong case is made for Texas. It would be perfectly acceptable.

But you know there is another argument for a ten game win streak and better wins and there’s a reason Texas is heading to the SEC. A huge part of that is money of course but the money is there at least partly because the conference is better.
People can hate the SEC all they want, but the conference is king of football. Winning it matters more than any other conference.

I really don’t know what they’ll decide but this isn’t as easy as some want to think.

This scenario is pretty much the same thing.
If you’re going to put the Tide in despite getting beat at home by double digits by another conference champion, then you’re destroying the argument for tough OOC games. Why take the risk when we can run a baby poop soft schedule, win the conference and get in anyways? To want tough OOC schedules but then not have it matter is talking out of both sides of your mouth. Essentially, your argument is “because we’re Alabama, duh”.
FTR, this argument happened in division 3 when the playoff berths were announced. After the selection committee emphasized SoS and then pretty much went away from it in awarding the four at-large bids, people were rightly upset that schools playing D3 powers in the WIAC (for example) and winning were not rewarded.

I firmly believe losing in September, your starting QB’s second start, means less than losing in your QB’s 16th start.
But I wouldn’t fault the committee if Texas makes it over Bama.

at “soft schedule” as an argument here.

 

[Ghost Rider]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

And then why not put in Georgia over Alabama? If one result doesn't matter and Texas beating Alabama isn't a deciding factor, then Alabama beating Georgia shouldn't be one either.

Do you really not see a difference between losing on September 9 and losing in the SEC championship on December 2?

Okay, let's tackle this from another angle:

What was more impressive: Alabama beating Georgia by 3 on a neutral field or Texas winning by double digits at Alabama? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[-OZ-]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

And then why not put in Georgia over Alabama? If one result doesn't matter and Texas beating Alabama isn't a deciding factor, then Alabama beating Georgia shouldn't be one either.

Do you really not see a difference between losing on September 9 and losing in the SEC championship on December 2?

Okay, let's tackle this from another angle:

What was more impressive: Alabama beating Georgia by 3 on a neutral field or Texas winning by double digits at Alabama? I'll hang up and listen.

If both were in December I’d buy the argument more.

 

[Mookie Gizzy]

My 2 cents.
Best 4 teams:
Michigan Alabama Georgia Ohio State.

Four teams should be in:
Michigan Washington Florida State Texas.

Committee takes:
Michigan Washington Texas Alabama

 

[Ghost Rider]

It won't be fair, but I think the committee leaves Florida St. out. They care more about getting the four best teams rather than who deserves it, and with FSU missing their QB, they will be viewed as lesser, and thus will be left out. That is my prediction.

 

[Capella]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

FSU’s strength of record is third lol. Above even Bama.

 

[Instinctive]

You know, if you start looking at Georgia’s schedule if they lose here …

I mean, Ohio fell from 2 to 6. Could UGA go from 1 to 5?

Georgia's best selling point is going to be a 3 year run. They shouldn't be top 4 if they lose today. And Texas should get in before Alabama does. Head to head especially on Alabama's field has to matter.

If Alabama wins today I think their overall record is more impressive than Texas’, slightly. That should matter more than head to head IMO (though I don’t know how they determine this.)

A 12-1 Big 12 champ beat a 12-1 SEC team at their house. Texas before Bama. Full stop.

What’s funny about this is that I generally like Texas, and generally root for them most of the time, and pretty much root against Alabama all of the time. So it’s not a matter of personal preference to me.

But I have to disagree with you. I think that overall Alabama had a better year than Texas and deserves to be there over Texas.

Texas 34 Alabama 24 why play the games otherwise?

All 12-13 games should matter. Not just one.

Then we should go back to the old bowl system and drop the CFB playoff.

And then why not put in Georgia over Alabama? If one result doesn't matter and Texas beating Alabama isn't a deciding factor, then Alabama beating Georgia shouldn't be one either.

Do you really not see a difference between losing on September 9 and losing in the SEC championship on December 2?

I see a pretty big difference. One of those games was against the other team in the discussion.

 

[guru_007]

This is a cluster of epic proportions. I love college football.

If it were me I'd make it Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Georgia
To me, those are the best 4 teams. Totally unfair to FSU and UT, I can accept that.

 

[FairWarning]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

FSU’s strength of record is third lol. Above even Bama.

That’s hard to believe, the ACC was down this year. Gotta hand it to FSU though, very gritty win last night.

 

[The Commish]

Should be:

1) Mi
2) WA
3) FSU
4) Texas

This is how it will be. Everybody can argue with a wall.

agree with you two

 

[AAABatteries]

Washington is getting big time disrespected by some of you. Crazy saying they should be left out. And saying OSU is better than them. GTFO.

 

[WDIK2]

The committee decides to leave Michigan out since their games and a potential national title will be vacated anyway.

 

[AAABatteries]

Based on the preponderous of disliked and loathsome teams in the playoff it's basically go Huskies all the way for me.
-QG

I‘ll be rooting for them too but if it’s the 4 teams the oddsmakers have then I’ll be happy with any of them winning. All the teams I hate seem to be eliminated

 

[AAABatteries]

The committee decides to leave Michigan out since their games and a potential national title will be vacated anyway.

Yeah - that story died quickly after some were ready to give them the death penalty.

 

[The Commish]

The committee decides to leave Michigan out since their games and a potential national title will be vacated anyway.

Yeah - that story died quickly after some were ready to give them the death penalty.

Hadn't heard a peep about this scandal for almost two weeks (Maryland game) outside a mention by broadcasters that investigations were happening. Pretty different tune being sung compared to 3-4 weeks prior. Then, the most important thing in the entire world was preserving the "sportsmanship" of the conference and the NCAA was on a mission from God to make sure justice was served. And to be clear...none of this is to say the punishment shouldn't happen if the NCAA finds evidence as they continue to investigate. Just a comment on the sensationalism of the click baity media and what they throw out there for attention.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Had Iowa +22. Watching this game feels the same as going to the dentist.

Ferentz going HAM on that gum! Jaws have to be sore this morning.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Georgia has been No 1 for like 3-4 years?
B2B Titles and they have held down the No 1 spot as long as most I can remember and it seems like all season they have been No 1
They lost 27-24 in an SEC Title game to perhaps the biggest baddest football program in college football over the last 10-12 years in Alabama
The 2 schools have like 8 National Championships in the last 10 years
A combined 23-1 record going into yesterday and the game is decided by 3 points and we are talking about NEITHER of these 2 football teams being in the CFP?

You cannot have a CFP with no SEC representative, the week to week in the SEC would destroy most of these other teams trying to get into the CFP
-Ridiculous