2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (2 Viewers)

[JShare87]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Georgia has been No 1 for like 3-4 years?
B2B Titles but they have held down the No 1 spot as long as most I can remember and it seems like all season they have been No 1
They lost 27-24 in an SEC Title game to perhaps the biggest baddest football program in college football over the last 10-12 years in Alabama
The 2 schools have like 8 National Championships in the last 10 years
A combined 23-1 record going into yesterday and the game is decided by 3 points and we are talking about NEITHER of these 2 football teams being in the CFP?

You cannot have a CFP with no SEC representative, the week to week in the SEC would destroy most of these other teams trying to get into the CFP
-Ridiculous

This guy gets it.

 

[Capella]

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

 

[Payne]

No time to catch up, but anyone who thinks Bama should get in over Texas should just give up watching sports.
There is ZERO argument for that. None. Head to head 100% matters. I don't care when it was. Ridiculous argument.

The only "debate" could be FSU and Alabama. But even that isn't much of a debate. An undefeated power 5 champion gets in every time.

Don't want to hear about the injury either, OSU won it all with a 3rd stringer.

 

[Payne]

Georgia has been No 1 for like 3-4 years?
B2B Titles and they have held down the No 1 spot as long as most I can remember and it seems like all season they have been No 1
They lost 27-24 in an SEC Title game to perhaps the biggest baddest football program in college football over the last 10-12 years in Alabama
The 2 schools have like 8 National Championships in the last 10 years
A combined 23-1 record going into yesterday and the game is decided by 3 points and we are talking about NEITHER of these 2 football teams being in the CFP?

You cannot have a CFP with no SEC representative, the week to week in the SEC would destroy most of these other teams trying to get into the CFP
-Ridiculous

Can't prove that. And the SEC hasn't been exactly lights out in bowl games recently.

 

[TLEF316]

i think its Michigan, Washington, Texas, Bama

Sucks for FSU For sure. Awful break for them. There's just no way the committee is gonna leave Alabama and Texas at home when the likely scenario is FSU getting smoked without their QB.

GA didn't win their conference title and there are enough deserving teams to leave them out.

Just proof that 4 teams was never the right number.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

SEC has a losing non-conference record against P5 teams (and the ACC) and we are talking about Alabama's great schedule because of their conference games. Nothing on the field says the SEC is the best conference this season.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

AP Polls should be more honest today
1. Michigan
2. Washington...they beat Oregon which was No 5 and it was an exciting game Friday Night No 3 vs No 5
3. Georgia...they should not fall any further in the polls than right here
4. FSU...beating Louisville in such boring fashion should in no way elevate them or move them up in the polls.

FSU more than any of these other teams should not vault Georgia and here is why. FSU is D.O.A. and if we were being honest they have no chance to win the CFP without their QB
But fans are mad because they say you can't penalize FSU, they won all these games and deserve to go SO DON"T JUDGE FSU on their current strength but what they did to deserve it over the course of the entire season...OK! But then don't you have to do the same with the other teams?

-If you are going to use that logic for FSU being the 4th team in then you must bring in Georgia as B2B National Champions losing by only a FG to Alabama which many feel should be competing in the CFP, not sure what else you need to examine here. Somebody is going to get their feelings hurt and we'll move 1 step closer to NCAA's March Madness for college football.

We take 2 teams from the 5 majors? 6 wildcards and just start them up on Black Friday thru Christmas?
None of this Jan 10th crap, have the title game wrapped up on New Years' Day the way it should be

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

What does FSU beating 10-11 teams with Travis have anything to do with how they would perform in the CFP right here right now?
Bye Bye Seminoles with your logic

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now? FSU will get rolled without their star Qb vs any of these other playoff teams
Why send a team that is gonna get embarrassed?
And have to hear 100x in the broadcast they are without Travis as he stands on crutches on the sidelines

 

[JShare87]

No time to catch up, but anyone who thinks Bama should get in over Texas should just give up watching sports.
There is ZERO argument for that. None. Head to head 100% matters. I don't care when it was. Ridiculous argument.

The only "debate" could be FSU and Alabama. But even that isn't much of a debate. An undefeated power 5 champion gets in every time.

Don't want to hear about the injury either, OSU won it all with a 3rd stringer.

Funny that everyone assumes Texas is automatically in when out of all the one-loss teams, their loss is the worst. It’s not just a Bama vs Texas argument and rightfully so. There are four one-loss teams (Ohio State, Bama, Texas, and UGA) fighting for one or two spots. Each team has a legit argument. If every game truly matters, then I’m sorry Texas but losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team can’t be swept under the rug because you beat Bama and won the Big 12.

 

[Capella]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

 

[Sleestak]

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

This guy gets it

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

-ARE YOU? You only care because you are an FSU alum, you wouldn't be wanting FSU in there is you weren't a fan/alum, you wouldn't
You're bias nature cannot be overlooked here

 

[Sleestak]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now? FSU will get rolled without their star Qb vs any of these other playoff teams
Why send a team that is gonna get embarrassed?
And have to hear 100x in the broadcast they are without Travis as he stands on crutches on the sidelines

Notre Dame bat signal

 

[Ghost Rider]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

I like that he said that after making the case that Georgia's recent history over several years should be a factor. Just his typical bipolar style of posting. lol

 

[pollardsvision]

Washington is getting big time disrespected by some of you. Crazy saying they should be left out. And saying OSU is better than them. GTFO.

I don't think anyone has suggested that UW shouldn't or wouldn't be in.

It seems every one is in agreement that Michigan and Washington are in.

 

[AAABatteries]

From ESPN today.

Will the committee choose the four best ... or most deserving? "It is best," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said Tuesday. "Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind: best teams."

I think this is the key thing that will be interesting to see how they explain. Most in here seem to saying FSU deserves to get in but I’m not seeing many say they are one of the four best teams.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Georgia won 29 games in a row, that stretches back to 2021 doesn't it @Capella

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Sadly, he probably is

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

From ESPN today.

Will the committee choose the four best ... or most deserving? "It is best," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said Tuesday. "Most deserving is not anything in the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that word in mind: best teams."

I think this is the key thing that will be interesting to see how they explain. Most in here seem to saying FSU deserves to get in but I’m not seeing many say they are one of the four best teams.

If we're going to use the "best" team argument, then start from scratch. Washington, Oregon, Georgia and Michigan. Those are the four best teams, IMO. People are slobbering over Texas beating an Oklahoma St team (that got smoked by UCF and South Alabama this year) and forgetting Texas struggled against TCU , K-State, and Iowa St all in November. There's no way Texas is one of the four "best" teams if we are using that criteria.

 

[AAABatteries]

Washington is getting big time disrespected by some of you. Crazy saying they should be left out. And saying OSU is better than them. GTFO.

I don't think anyone has suggested that UW shouldn't or wouldn't be in.

It seems every one is in agreement that Michigan and Washington are in.

Culdeus suggested it under the premise of the best games - granted, he may have forgotten about Washington so I’ll let it slide. I think Washington both deserves it and is one of the four best teams. Honestly, they may be the only team that fits that criteria as I’m personally not sold that Michigan is better than UGA, Texas, Wash, Bama.

For me - the four that deserve it - Washington, Michigan, FSU, Texas.

For me - the four best - Washington, UGA, Bama, Texas/Mich (can’t decide)

For me - the four that get in - Washington, Michigan, Bama, Texas

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If these teams were around in the 80s or 90s it would look something like this

No 1 Michigan vs No 2 Washington
Rose Bowl '85 for the National Title

...and everyone would have been happy

 

[AAABatteries]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Georgia has been No 1 for like 3-4 years?
B2B Titles but they have held down the No 1 spot as long as most I can remember and it seems like all season they have been No 1
They lost 27-24 in an SEC Title game to perhaps the biggest baddest football program in college football over the last 10-12 years in Alabama
The 2 schools have like 8 National Championships in the last 10 years
A combined 23-1 record going into yesterday and the game is decided by 3 points and we are talking about NEITHER of these 2 football teams being in the CFP?

You cannot have a CFP with no SEC representative, the week to week in the SEC would destroy most of these other teams trying to get into the CFP
-Ridiculous

This guy gets it.

Maybe first time this has been uttered about MoP in the history of the bored!

 

[Mile High]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

 

[Tom Servo]

No time to catch up, but anyone who thinks Bama should get in over Texas should just give up watching sports.
There is ZERO argument for that. None. Head to head 100% matters. I don't care when it was. Ridiculous argument.

The only "debate" could be FSU and Alabama. But even that isn't much of a debate. An undefeated power 5 champion gets in every time.

Don't want to hear about the injury either, OSU won it all with a 3rd stringer.

* smacks table *
THANK YOU!

 

[gump]

Awesome moment for this kid…

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

I like that he said that after making the case that Georgia's recent history over several years should be a factor. Just his typical bipolar style of posting. lol

Someone needs a hug

 

[AAABatteries]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Did you watch that kid last night? You probably aren’t making that argument but FSU would lose to basically every other top 10 if they had to play him. Backup should be back for the playoff though.

 

[Tom Servo]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Shhh! That ruins the FSU is out narrative around here.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

i think its Michigan, Washington, Texas, Bama

Sucks for FSU For sure. Awful break for them. There's just no way the committee is gonna leave Alabama and Texas at home when the likely scenario is FSU getting smoked without their QB.

GA didn't win their conference title and there are enough deserving teams to leave them out.

Just proof that 4 teams was never the right number.

So, let me get this straight, the undefeated champion of a power 5 conference gets left out in the cold because their qb got hurt? Ridiculous. By your logic, if McCarthy tore his acl in the 4th quarter last night, they would be on the outside looking in too. Absurd argument.

 

[Tom Servo]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Did you watch that kid last night? You probably aren’t making that argument but FSU would lose to basically every other top 10 if they had to play him. Backup should be back for the playoff though.

You do realize the backup will be cleared for the next game?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Did you watch that kid last night? You probably aren’t making that argument but FSU would lose to basically every other top 10 if they had to play him. Backup should be back for the playoff though.

The third string guy won't play in the playoffs. Roddemaker will and he's already beaten Florida in the Swamp

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

FSU should announce this morning that Jordan Travis has been cleared to play. Jesus, the mental gymnastics by the SEC homers is off the charts.

 

[-OZ-]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

FSU’s strength of record is third lol. Above even Bama.

How is that possible?

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Shows FSU #63
Texas #1, Alabama #17

 

[TLEF316]

i think its Michigan, Washington, Texas, Bama

Sucks for FSU For sure. Awful break for them. There's just no way the committee is gonna leave Alabama and Texas at home when the likely scenario is FSU getting smoked without their QB.

GA didn't win their conference title and there are enough deserving teams to leave them out.

Just proof that 4 teams was never the right number.

So, let me get this straight, the undefeated champion of a power 5 conference gets left out in the cold because their qb got hurt? Ridiculous. By your logic, if McCarthy tore his acl in the 4th quarter last night, they would be on the outside looking in too. Absurd argument.

The committee's stated logic is to pick the 4 "best teams". IMO, this is/should be determined through combination of what they've done and what they're likely to do going forward.

We have a decent amount of evidence that shows that a Travis-less FSU team is not one of the "best" 4 teams in the country. We have no evidence as to what Michigan would look like without McCarthy. Apples and oranges.


Is it "fair"? Probably not. I dont have a dog in the fight here other than wanting to see the most exciting/competitive games possible. Sadly for FSU, I think that means leaving them out (and I think that's what the committee will do, given the alternatives)

 

[-OZ-]

Washington is getting big time disrespected by some of you. Crazy saying they should be left out. And saying OSU is better than them. GTFO.

Anyone leaving Washington out has to be joking or a typo.

 

[Ilov80s]

Got to have an SEC team in the playoff

Absolutely

Even when it's the worst SEC field in years?

Have to have a team from the SEC in it. Regardless of how bad it’s been this year compared to other years, I don’t see any of these teams beating Bama or UGA. Maybe Texas.

So if we have 3 undefeated conference winners and a conference winner who went to Alabama and beat them, we should still put Alabama in? That makes no sense to me.

That same conference winner that beat Alabama has by far the worst loss out of the one-loss teams. So when you compare losses, losing to a two-loss Oklahoma team isn’t the best look imo. Really have to pick your poison when arguing this.

If they were in the same division battling for a conference championship berth, what’s the first tie beaker? HEAD TO HEAD. Game over, Bama.

Georgia has been No 1 for like 3-4 years?
B2B Titles but they have held down the No 1 spot as long as most I can remember and it seems like all season they have been No 1
They lost 27-24 in an SEC Title game to perhaps the biggest baddest football program in college football over the last 10-12 years in Alabama
The 2 schools have like 8 National Championships in the last 10 years
A combined 23-1 record going into yesterday and the game is decided by 3 points and we are talking about NEITHER of these 2 football teams being in the CFP?

You cannot have a CFP with no SEC representative, the week to week in the SEC would destroy most of these other teams trying to get into the CFP
-Ridiculous

This guy gets it.

Normally sure but this was a down year for the SEC. Sorry it just was. What happened 8 years ago doesn’t matter.

 

[Capella]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

-ARE YOU? You only care because you are an FSU alum, you wouldn't be wanting FSU in there is you weren't a fan/alum, you wouldn't
You're bias nature cannot be overlooked here

And you’re a Miami fan lmao.

I’m sorry but I would be sitting here telling you any undefeated power 5 team would be in. I also told this thread last year that TCU would be in over Bama and everybody did the same tired well Vegas would have Bama favored argument then as well. And then TCU got in. Like fsu will.

 

[Ilov80s]

Washington is getting big time disrespected by some of you. Crazy saying they should be left out. And saying OSU is better than them. GTFO.

Anyone leaving Washington out has to be joking or a typo.

I think it’s clear UW and UM are in. It’s the other two spots that are very much up for debate.

 

[Capella]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

FSU’s strength of record is third lol. Above even Bama.

How is that possible?

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Shows FSU #63
Texas #1, Alabama #17

2025 Resume College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 Resume College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.

www.espn.com

 

[Tom Servo]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

-ARE YOU? You only care because you are an FSU alum, you wouldn't be wanting FSU in there is you weren't a fan/alum, you wouldn't
You're bias nature cannot be overlooked here

And you’re a Miami fan lmao.

I’m sorry but I would be sitting here telling you any undefeated power 5 team would be in. I also told this thread last year that TCU would be in over Bama and everybody did the same tired well Vegas would have Bama favored argument then as well. And then TCU got in. Like fsu will.

When @Capella says something, I tend to give it a lot of weight because time has proven his observations correct time and again.

 

[AAABatteries]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Did you watch that kid last night? You probably aren’t making that argument but FSU would lose to basically every other top 10 if they had to play him. Backup should be back for the playoff though.

You do realize the backup will be cleared for the next game?

I’m assuming I do since I said it explicitly in the post you just replied to.

 

[massraider]

Results need to matter more than hypotheticals. A lot more.

 

[dickey moe]

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

Branding, which has a lot more to do with all of this than people think.

 

[-OZ-]

You can currently get +350 on FSU being left out. I’m debating laying the hammer down on that one.

No way they leave Bama out after winning 11 straight, the SEC, and knocking UGA out. If they take Bama, they HAVE to take Texas. Someone has to get hosed, it won’t be Bama imo, and Texas gets to ride their coattail. Going to be some angry people in Tallahassee. In reality, without Travis, they have no chance, so I think that’s the right move.

There’s merit to this, plus FSU has maybe two quality wins. Beating LSU easily warrants mentioning but otherwise they had a cakewalk of a schedule.

FSU’s strength of record is third lol. Above even Bama.

How is that possible?

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Shows FSU #63
Texas #1, Alabama #17

2025 Resume College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 Resume College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.

www.espn.com

Take another look at that page.
SOS - FSU 55, Bama 5
Although I’ll take that top 4. Washington, Michigan, FSU and Bama.

 

[AAABatteries]

Not a college football expert what so ever, but didn't Ohio State win a national championship with a 3rd string QB with very limited starting experience?

Did you watch that kid last night? You probably aren’t making that argument but FSU would lose to basically every other top 10 if they had to play him. Backup should be back for the playoff though.

The third string guy won't play in the playoffs. Roddemaker will and he's already beaten Florida in the Swamp

I know I said that - are my posts getting truncated for your people?

 

[Capella]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

-ARE YOU? You only care because you are an FSU alum, you wouldn't be wanting FSU in there is you weren't a fan/alum, you wouldn't
You're bias nature cannot be overlooked here

And you’re a Miami fan lmao.

I’m sorry but I would be sitting here telling you any undefeated power 5 team would be in. I also told this thread last year that TCU would be in over Bama and everybody did the same tired well Vegas would have Bama favored argument then as well. And then TCU got in. Like fsu will.

When @Capella says something, I tend to give it a lot of weight because time has proven his observations correct time and again.

I’ve gotten pretty good at predicting this stupid committee over the years. I may be wrong today and I’ll eat that if I am but I think what’s going to happen is pretty obvious and we’re all just wasting our time.

 

[Capella]

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

Branding, which has a lot more to do with all of this than people think.

Nah. Tcu got in over Bama last year. Doesn’t matter at all. That came up a lot then too.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

FSU should announce this morning that Jordan Travis has been cleared to play. Jesus, the mental gymnastics by the SEC homers is off the charts.

Mental gymnastics? I'm just repeating the words you are writing and asking for clarity with simple facts like
13 of the last 17 National Championships are from the SEC going back to 2006

Some of you make it out like the SEC fans are crazy to be assuming they have a team in the CFP
-FTR, MoP hates Saban, doesn't like the SEC, doesn't tune in to watch Alabama-Auburn, it's not my cup of tea, HOWEVER you can't overlook them in the CFP

 

[JShare87]

FSU should announce this morning that Jordan Travis has been cleared to play. Jesus, the mental gymnastics by the SEC homers is off the charts.

Jonathan Brooks played yesterday 3 weeks after ACL surgery. Sure he threw on pads and a jersey to go in for the final kneel down, but he technically played. One of the cooler things that happened yesterday.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What does Sept, Oct, Nov matter right now?

Are you being serious?

Would love to know what 2021 Georgia has to do with the 2023 playoff.

-ARE YOU? You only care because you are an FSU alum, you wouldn't be wanting FSU in there is you weren't a fan/alum, you wouldn't
You're bias nature cannot be overlooked here

And you’re a Miami fan lmao.

I’m sorry but I would be sitting here telling you any undefeated power 5 team would be in. I also told this thread last year that TCU would be in over Bama and everybody did the same tired well Vegas would have Bama favored argument then as well. And then TCU got in. Like fsu will.

Of course FSU is getting in, I didn't say they wouldn't get in