2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (3 Viewers)

[timschochet]

I guess I just don’t respect the ACC or the Big 12 as much as I do the SEC, PAC-12 or Big 10. The first two seem like weaker conferences to me. That probably colors my thought process. Alabama running the table against the likes of LSU and Mississippi is more impressive than Texas struggling against Iowa St. And more important, IMO, than head to head matchups.

As usual, you are just jumping into this with your Skip Bayless hot takes and don't actually know what you're talking about.

lol I can’t stand Bayless, haven’t watched him in years. I think some of you back east haven’t paid attention to just how good the PAC-12 was in its last year.

 

[Desert_Power]

I’m really curious about the inverse and how much that factors in - which political relationship is most damaged by the decision?

The SEC is screaming benefit of doubt “because we’re the SEC” in a down year for the conference. If they leave the undefeated ACC champ out, the conference goes ballistic. If they leave Texas out, they devalue individual regular season games and scheduling.

I know they only will decide going opposite, but there’s likely that one person in the room going, “man you better be ready for the ACC/SEC backlash you’re about to unleash…”

Something 11th hour tells me we need to think of Texas as in. I don’t realistically see how they can be left out. Feels like a Bama vs FSU debate to me and one conference is gonna lose it.

It's just funny that you have a current SEC team, a future SEC team, and a team that has been trying to leave their conference for the SEC for years all in the mix for 2 spots.

 

[timschochet]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

@Capella - forget who should be in, who will get in. Who do you think are the four best teams right now?

Georgia and Bama are probably the two best teams. After that everybody is too tight to call. I’d probably go Michigan, Washington.

Texas has been pretty impressive lately. I don’t think Washington belongs in the conversation of best teams. Just stated running the ball as of late but prior to that, they were pretty one-dimensional.

Texas what? In November, they struggled with TCU, Kansas State, and Iowa State. They smoked a bad Texas Tech team and an Oklahoma State team that got smoked by UCF and South Alabama this year.

Yeah and they also beat a small school like Alabama too. What frauds.

Read much? Post said lately which is what fsu seems to be judged on

I can read fine. We're picking and choosing criteria based on what you believe should happen. I got it.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

@Capella - forget who should be in, who will get in. Who do you think are the four best teams right now?

Georgia and Bama are probably the two best teams. After that everybody is too tight to call. I’d probably go Michigan, Washington.

Texas has been pretty impressive lately. I don’t think Washington belongs in the conversation of best teams. Just stated running the ball as of late but prior to that, they were pretty one-dimensional.

Texas what? In November, they struggled with TCU, Kansas State, and Iowa State. They smoked a bad Texas Tech team and an Oklahoma State team that got smoked by UCF and South Alabama this year.

Yeah and they also beat a small school like Alabama too. What frauds.

Read much? Post said lately which is what fsu seems to be judged on

I can read fine. We're picking and choosing criteria based on what you believe should happen. I got it.

No you can't. If you ask me my four teams that belong, Texas is one of them. I responded to a different criteria. So no you don't go it.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Arizona is better than Oregon State and Utah. Colorado sucked balls. Jeez

 

[timschochet]

Just curious: prior to Friday night I thought Oregon was the best team in college football. But if the Ducks had won that game, and everything else stayed the same, the Ducks would have been shut out of this right?

 

[scottybo]

 

[Uruk-Hai]

One thing I've been thinking is that the CFP folks don't have to worry about setting a new precedent here because it's the last year under this format. They're gonna piss off a whole lot of people no matter what they do, so maybe they don't rely on what they've done before?

 

[Man In The Box]

Current odds to make the CFP according to DraftKings:

FSU -380
Texas -350
Alabama +115
Georgia +1200

Updated:

FSU -125
Alabama -130
Texas -750
Georgia +1200

 

[JShare87]

Just curious: prior to Friday night I thought Oregon was the best team in college football. But if the Ducks had won that game, and everything else stayed the same, the Ducks would have been shut out of this right?

I’m not sure. Did the previous rankings have any meaning? Oregon was ranked 5 and would’ve won their conference title game. Bama and Texas were both ranked behind them and did the same.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

@Capella - forget who should be in, who will get in. Who do you think are the four best teams right now?

Georgia and Bama are probably the two best teams. After that everybody is too tight to call. I’d probably go Michigan, Washington.

Texas has been pretty impressive lately. I don’t think Washington belongs in the conversation of best teams. Just stated running the ball as of late but prior to that, they were pretty one-dimensional.

Texas what? In November, they struggled with TCU, Kansas State, and Iowa State. They smoked a bad Texas Tech team and an Oklahoma State team that got smoked by UCF and South Alabama this year.

Yeah and they also beat a small school like Alabama too. What frauds.

Read much? Post said lately which is what fsu seems to be judged on

I can read fine. We're picking and choosing criteria based on what you believe should happen. I got it.

No you can't. If you ask me my four teams that belong, Texas is one of them. I responded to a different criteria. So no you don't go it.

Texas has to pay a price for coming to the SEC. That price is for ALA to be in the CFP. I'm pretty sure the conference gets the money. Not the team. If Texas gets the nod, the money goes to their old conference.

 

[AAABatteries]

Just curious: prior to Friday night I thought Oregon was the best team in college football. But if the Ducks had won that game, and everything else stayed the same, the Ducks would have been shut out of this right?

I don’t think so - I think they take Washington’s spot and we are having the same debate. Man, if that happened it would have really sucked for UW and UGA. Especially Washington having to beat the same team twice.

 

[Moe.]

Need a live cam on Sankey for the announcement after his Sesame Street nonsense yesterday

 

[need2know]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

 

[Jayded]

I’m really curious about the inverse and how much that factors in - which political relationship is most damaged by the decision?

The SEC is screaming benefit of doubt “because we’re the SEC” in a down year for the conference. If they leave the undefeated ACC champ out, the conference goes ballistic. If they leave Texas out, they devalue individual regular season games and scheduling.

I know they only will decide going opposite, but there’s likely that one person in the room going, “man you better be ready for the ACC/SEC backlash you’re about to unleash…”

Something 11th hour tells me we need to think of Texas as in. I don’t realistically see how they can be left out. Feels like a Bama vs FSU debate to me and one conference is gonna lose it.

It's just funny that you have a current SEC team, a future SEC team, and a team that has been trying to leave their conference for the SEC for years all in the mix for 2 spots.

What is interesting in that is it isn’t just about money but access and benefit of the doubt. As more and more consolidation happens, I wonder how much it could hurt the historical perceptions.

Meaning, we’re headed closer and closer to North (B1G) vs South (SEC), so it very well could be 6 vs 6 years from now and SEC expansion in adding ACC/Big XII teams muddies their opportunities vs accentuates them.

 

[gump]

Regardless of today…big year for Bama getting back to the top of the conference. Coaching changes, QB chaos, aging Saban…big momentum for next few years.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Regardless of today…big year for Bama getting back to the top of the conference. Coaching changes, QB chaos, aging Saban…big momentum for next few years.

They overcame 15 straight years of top recruiting classes and all the adversity that comes with that!

 

[Ilov80s]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Right but remember the SEC was kind of weak this year too

 

[General Malaise]

Wash
Mich
Texas
FSU

FSU vs Wash in the Rose Bowl
Mich vs Texas in the Sugar Bowl

Congrats to Bama for winning the SEC. Here's where your story ends.

 

[Ilov80s]

Regardless of today…big year for Bama getting back to the top of the conference. Coaching changes, QB chaos, aging Saban…big momentum for next few years.

Yep, we were all very worried about them

 

[Desert_Power]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Emergency 6 team playoff with byes to Michigan and Washington would be pretty fun until Georgia wins it all.

 

[need2know]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Right but remember the SEC was kind of weak this year too

Still the best conference

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Greg McElroy shilling for Alabama. LOL

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Emergency 6 team playoff with byes to Michigan and Washington would be pretty fun until Georgia wins it all.

Which tells us Georgia should be in the playoffs if we're going to say the "best" teams should be in, which is Alabama's argument over FSU

 

[gump]

Regardless of today…big year for Bama getting back to the top of the conference. Coaching changes, QB chaos, aging Saban…big momentum for next few years.

They overcame 15 straight years of top recruiting classes and all the adversity that comes with that!

The King is Dead was the Sept mantra…not anymore. Still got another 5 years in him.

 

[Payne]

Georgia won 29 games in a row, that stretches back to 2021 doesn't it @Capella

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

They didn't win the one that mattered though. Sorry

 

[Payne]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Who the heck did Michigan play outside of OSU and maybe PSU? lol.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

ESPN says Michigan isn't sweating it because they are an undefeated power conference champion in the same segment as saying FSU doesn't belong. A third grade class could be better than ESPN these days.

 

[Tick]

I think Heather Dinich is as in touch with the committee as anyone, and she predicted FSU out, Alabama in. I think FSU would quit the ACC immediately.

 

[Jayded]

ESPN says Michigan isn't sweating it because they are an undefeated power conference champion in the same segment as saying FSU doesn't belong. A third grade class could be better than ESPN these days.

It’s gonna get worse. Next year starts the ESPN $3B SEC lovefest.

 

[General Malaise]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Colorado did beat TCU and Nebraska.

 

[nysfl2]

FWIW, the Big Ten was awful this year, outside of Michigan and Ohio State

 

[AAABatteries]

Man, what a fantastic 8 team tournament we could have this year:

Washington vs. Ohio State
Michigan vs. Oregon
Texas vs. Georgia
FSU vs. Alabama

 

[Ilov80s]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Right but remember the SEC was kind of weak this year too

Still the best conference

Maybe, I guess we don't really know since there was so little conference crossover.

Here were the biggest SEC non-conf games:

SC got waxed by UNC
Texas went to Bama and housed them
FSU beat LSU by 21
Ole Miss beat Tulane handidly
BYU went to Arkansas and won
Clemson beat SC

I am sure I am missing some games but the SEC did not fare well out of conference this year

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Arizona was the 3rd best team in the Pac12 by the end of the season. They are playing great football right now.

 

[nysfl2]

Man, what a fantastic 8 team tournament we could have this year:

Washington vs. Ohio State
Michigan vs. Oregon
Texas vs. Georgia
FSU vs. Alabama

Yeah, most years 8 is too many to invite, but it would be perfect this year

 

[timschochet]

Regardless of today…big year for Bama getting back to the top of the conference. Coaching changes, QB chaos, aging Saban…big momentum for next few years.

They overcame 15 straight years of top recruiting classes and all the adversity that comes with that!

This made me laugh.

 

[Ilov80s]

FWIW, the Big Ten was awful this year, outside of Michigan and Ohio State

Totally agree, which is why a 1 loss Ohio State team has no argument for making it in even with that ND win.

 

[timschochet]

So who wins the Oregon vs Ohio State matchup?

 

[need2know]

I wish was it was like pro wrestling and the commish could just order next Saturday Georgia @ Texas and Bama @ FSU, winners are in.

Oregon is one of the very best teams in the country and Washington beat them twice.

Who else did Washington or Oregon play though? Legit asking

Oregon State and Utah are very good teams. Washington State, USC, Arizona are fairly good teams. UCLA, Cal and ASU had their moments. Even Colorado was decent at times early. Very tough conference.

Agree on Utah and Oregon state. The others not so much

Right but remember the SEC was kind of weak this year too

Still the best conference

Maybe, I guess we don't really know since there was so little conference crossover.

Here were the biggest SEC non-conf games:

SC got waxed by UNC
Texas went to Bama and housed them
FSU beat LSU by 21
Ole Miss beat Tulane handidly
BYU went to Arkansas and won
Clemson beat SC

I am sure I am missing some games but the SEC did not fare well out of conference this year

Can't wait for the 12 team playoff. I do feel bad because 2 really good teams are going to get left out. Might be mine. Standing with my picks of Michigan, Washington, Texas, bama

 

[nysfl2]

FanDuel has taken the bets for who makes the playoff down and has Alabama +350 to win it all vs FSU at +4000

 

[need2know]

FWIW, the Big Ten was awful this year, outside of Michigan and Ohio State

Totally agree, which is why a 1 loss Ohio State team has no argument for making it in even with that ND win.

I can't believe they still think they have a shot. Didn't even play yesterday. Since when do you get rewarded for doing nothing?

 

[AAABatteries]

FanDuel has taken the bets for who makes the playoff down and has Alabama +350 to win it all vs FSU at +4000

For those of us who have no knowledge of betting - what does this mean? That it sounds like Bama is in?

 

[nysfl2]

FWIW, the Big Ten was awful this year, outside of Michigan and Ohio State

Totally agree, which is why a 1 loss Ohio State team has no argument for making it in even with that ND win.

I can't believe they still think they have a shot. Didn't even play yesterday. Since when do you get rewarded for doing nothing?

There are 5 deserving conference champions. Nobody who didn't win a conference has any shot at all.

 

[Deamon]

WOW!

 

[Deamon]

Official results:

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Bama

 

[nysfl2]

FanDuel has taken the bets for who makes the playoff down and has Alabama +350 to win it all vs FSU at +4000

For those of us who have no knowledge of betting - what does this mean? That it sounds like Bama is in?

It could mean that the oddmakers give Alabama a good shot at winning it all if they make it and think FSU has no chance at all, but it seems to me that the books know Alabama is in

 

[AAABatteries]

But, I still don’t see the SEC being shut out.

 

[need2know]

They did the right thing