2023 Las Vegas Raiders - RIP Jack - one of the greatest Super Bowl moments ever (1 Viewer)

[ICON211]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

 

[LawFitz]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

Also, if the argument is going to be based on free market over socialism, then you'd need to also get rid of the franchise tags and the salary cap and the draft. Very little of how the NFL operates is based on free markets.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

Also, if the argument is going to be based on free market over socialism, then you'd need to also get rid of the franchise tags and the salary cap and the draft. Very little of how the NFL operates is based on free markets.

i was thinking the NFL is more of a straight capitalism set up.

 

[Chaka]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

Also, if the argument is going to be based on free market over socialism, then you'd need to also get rid of the franchise tags and the salary cap and the draft. Very little of how the NFL operates is based on free markets.

i was thinking the NFL is more of a straight capitalism set up.

Not even close.

The worst teams have first pick of the best incoming players & revenue sharing between, allegedly 32 separate corporations are not hallmarks of capitalism.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

once again, I AGREE THAT THE RBS ARE GETTING HOSED. i am merely stating my opinion that these franchises are businesses first. with the goal of making money and maximizing profit. sure they want to win, because that drives profit. its a monkey see monkey do league. the winningest franchises recently have shown a formula of not paying the rb position and winning. ten and lv are #1 and 2 in rb salary. phi and kc are 23 and 25 buf is 22.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

You’re fired up about this.

I am. RBs in general are getting shafted, but especially elite ones like Jacobs and Saquan. Next CBA should outlaw the 5th yr option and franchise tag for RBs. Those mechanisms have been weaponized against them in particular. It's not good for the game in the long run if elite youth players stop playing RB, and they will if things don't change.

Or make the tag a set number, something like $15M+ or so for RBs. Not sure what the numbers should be, maybe higher since the next CBA does not come up for a while. They would be more likely to get a long term deal and be happier to play on the tag if they don't reach a long term deal. Also have the RBs get paid more than their draft slot calls for.

I think it’s pretty fair as it is now. Average the top 5 salaries of your position.

Maybe the answer is set aside a pool of bonus money to be paid to RBs that perform well at the end of each year by the league? I think it is unfair for a RB that plays great, but is say a 3rd-4th round pick or later. In that case they don't get paid a lot on their rookie deal and then no one wants to pay them because of the wear and tear on their body for the first four years of their career.

I don’t think that will fly. Socialism and all that. Where does the pool of money come from? And what about the Brock Purdy’s and maxx Crosby‘s of the world? You gonna give them bonuses as well? Cause if one position has a performance based bonus, you know they’ll all want one.

hell, due to poor decisions, Marc Davis is paying carr 5.6M and leatherwood 3.9M. This year. No way are owners gonna pony up more money for dudes that out perform their draft positions.

The difference is that if a QB or edge plays great their first four years they know they are getting a big second contract. Any position (excluding P and K) other than RB for that matter.

Also, if the argument is going to be based on free market over socialism, then you'd need to also get rid of the franchise tags and the salary cap and the draft. Very little of how the NFL operates is based on free markets.

i was thinking the NFL is more of a straight capitalism set up.

Not even close.

The worst teams have first pick of the best incoming players & revenue sharing between, allegedly 32 separate corporations are not hallmarks of capitalism.

forgive me. I'm talking about the owners. not the NFL as an entity. you are correct

 

[massraider]

Get ready for it to happen all over again next year if Jacob’s balls out again.

I would be completely OK if that were to happen again next year.

What was the problem? Jacobs honored his contract, the Raiders franchised him, he signed the franchise offer eventually, came in and said, All Good.

I would be shocked if the Raiders did franchise him again however.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Get ready for it to happen all over again next year if Jacob’s balls out again.

I would be completely OK if that were to happen again next year.

What was the problem? Jacobs honored his contract, the Raiders franchised him, he signed the franchise offer eventually, came in and said, All Good.

I would be shocked if the Raiders did franchise him again however.

Same. Except I won’t be shocked.
I’m 50/40/10. Franchised/2 year deal/allowed to walk

 

[Ray_T]

You’re fired up about this.

i was thinking the NFL is more of a straight capitalism set up.

 

[Ray_T]

They are a capitalism setup. but they operate as a Monopoly and utilize market power where they have the ability to do so.

 

[RaiderBones]

Tashan Reed
@tashanreed
#Raiders takeaways per @Forbes
- Franchise now worth $6.1B (sixth in the NFL), which is up from $3.4B in 2021
- $729M in total revenue (second)
- $90M in ticket sales (first)
- $70M in non-NFL stadium revenue (first)

 

[LawFitz]

- $729M in total revenue (second)
- $90M in ticket sales (first)
- $70M in non-NFL stadium revenue (first)

Mork is rollin'. Dude is outsmarting everyone off the field. Would be amazing to see it translate on now. At least this can now fully put to rest all the talk of not being able to afford guaranteed contracts.

 

[joey]

- $729M in total revenue (second)
- $90M in ticket sales (first)
- $70M in non-NFL stadium revenue (first)

Mork is rollin'. Dude is outsmarting everyone off the field. Would be amazing to see it translate on now. At least this can now fully put to rest all the talk of not being able to afford guaranteed contracts.

Agree 100000% with your

I am beyond pleasantly surprised to read these stats. Would never have guessed that this is where the raiders would rank on these lists. Wow

 

[massraider]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

tommy boy making pops proud

 

[Chaka]

tommy boy making pops proud

He's making more bank than dad ever did.

Not sure if that should be the benchmark but it doesn't suck for Mark.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

 

[Chaka]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

 

[DocHolliday]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

 

[massraider]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

In reading about it, I never realized before that Gruden and Goodell hated each other, and it was a little ugly.



Honestly, that's all I needed to read. Because I am GD finished with the whole Raiders vs the world thing. Being the least popular owner in the league hasn't been fun since 2000 for a couple years, and 1984 before that. So Al dies, and his all around decent person of a son takes over. I would think the owners might not hold the sins of the father against him, and you know, maybe the Raiders won't keep getting screwed. But he hires a guy who like to eff with Goodell. Like, WTF are we doing over here?

The second I heard that our coach talked **** about Goodell I was done with him.

 

[LawFitz]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

In reading about it, I never realized before that Gruden and Goodell hated each other, and it was a little ugly.



Honestly, that's all I needed to read. Because I am GD finished with the whole Raiders vs the world thing. Being the least popular owner in the league hasn't been fun since 2000 for a couple years, and 1984 before that. So Al dies, and his all around decent person of a son takes over. I would think the owners might not hold the sins of the father against him, and you know, maybe the Raiders won't keep getting screwed. But he hires a guy who like to eff with Goodell. Like, WTF are we doing over here?

The second I heard that our coach talked **** about Goodell I was done with him.

Turns out Al and Chucky were pod peas. Ah well, both are history now.

 

[Chaka]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

He was an ####### without those emails. What he wrote was really bad. But I disagree that he got what he deserved.

The problem I have with your argument is how disqualifying is something like that? They way you framed it honestly means that he is entirely unemployable from that point for eternity. Is that justice in America?

Should we all be judged exclusively by the worst thing we have ever done? We'd all be ###### if that were the case.

Is there no growth? No possibility of redemption. Gruden stopped being an evolving, flawed, human being the moment he hit send?

That is a terrifying reality if that's the case.

We also need to separate the content of those emails from how they were discovered and released. There were over 600,000 emails that were discovered during the WFT investigation and only that handful ever saw the light of day. Are we to believe nothing else that would have been of public, or legal interest was found in the 599,995 other emails? They were carefully curated and weaponized.

Gruden was (is?) an ####### but even #######s deserve due process.

 

[Chaka]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

In reading about it, I never realized before that Gruden and Goodell hated each other, and it was a little ugly.



Honestly, that's all I needed to read. Because I am GD finished with the whole Raiders vs the world thing. Being the least popular owner in the league hasn't been fun since 2000 for a couple years, and 1984 before that. So Al dies, and his all around decent person of a son takes over. I would think the owners might not hold the sins of the father against him, and you know, maybe the Raiders won't keep getting screwed. But he hires a guy who like to eff with Goodell. Like, WTF are we doing over here?

The second I heard that our coach talked **** about Goodell I was done with him.

Who the commissioner likes and dislikes should never factor into the decision of which coach to hire.

Goodell works for the owners, not the other way around.

 

[massraider]

Who the commissioner likes and dislikes should never factor into the decision of which coach to hire.

Goodell works for the owners, not the other way around.

I am not arguing the way things should be.
I'm looking at the way things are.

The NFL is political, with 32 teams instead of countries. Everything is still money and relationships. Goodell felt completely empowered to destroy Gruden, and he apparently knew he would face zero repercussions from the other owners. That is a dynamic I want to change. I want Davis to have a seat at the table, because his franchise is really valuable now. A coach of a team with our history, screwing with the commish, really?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

He was an ####### without those emails. What he wrote was really bad. But I disagree that he got what he deserved.

The problem I have with your argument is how disqualifying is something like that? They way you framed it honestly means that he is entirely unemployable from that point for eternity. Is that justice in America?

Should we all be judged exclusively by the worst thing we have ever done? We'd all be ###### if that were the case.

Is there no growth? No possibility of redemption. Gruden stopped being an evolving, flawed, human being the moment he hit send?

That is a terrifying reality if that's the case.

We also need to separate the content of those emails from how they were discovered and released. There were over 600,000 emails that were discovered during the WFT investigation and only that handful ever saw the light of day. Are we to believe nothing else that would have been of public, or legal interest was found in the 599,995 other emails? They were carefully curated and weaponized.

Gruden was (is?) an ####### but even #######s deserve due process.

Gruden is, was, and always Will be, a giant narcissistic, self inflated, egomaniacal ahole.

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

I don't think the other owners wanted a new standard set with coaches getting 10 years/$100mil contracts and final say in all football decisions. they had to knock gruden down and out to send a message to any other coach about making demands like that.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Tashan Reed
@tashanreed
#Raiders takeaways per @Forbes
- Franchise now worth $6.1B (sixth in the NFL), which is up from $3.4B in 2021
- $729M in total revenue (second)
- $90M in ticket sales (first)
- $70M in non-NFL stadium revenue (first)

Stick it right up em Mark!

How much did the league give that tuuurd Kronke to help out his stadium when he was low on cash and again to settle with the city of St Louis for the BS reason they gave them to leave town

Guessing the league is also trying to suppress all the cases they are losing to Gruden too

Will Mark go after the league they way his old man did as well?

 

[ZADO]

Political parallels

tread lightly

 

[Chaka]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

He was an ####### without those emails. What he wrote was really bad. But I disagree that he got what he deserved.

The problem I have with your argument is how disqualifying is something like that? They way you framed it honestly means that he is entirely unemployable from that point for eternity. Is that justice in America?

Should we all be judged exclusively by the worst thing we have ever done? We'd all be ###### if that were the case.

Is there no growth? No possibility of redemption. Gruden stopped being an evolving, flawed, human being the moment he hit send?

That is a terrifying reality if that's the case.

We also need to separate the content of those emails from how they were discovered and released. There were over 600,000 emails that were discovered during the WFT investigation and only that handful ever saw the light of day. Are we to believe nothing else that would have been of public, or legal interest was found in the 599,995 other emails? They were carefully curated and weaponized.

Gruden was (is?) an ####### but even #######s deserve due process.

Gruden is, was, and always Will be, a giant narcissistic, self inflated, egomaniacal ahole.

Then we all are only the worst version ourselves and will never be anything else.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

The NFL has "screwed" the Raiders twice in a major way recently.
Locking them out of the LA deal, and throwing Gruden under the bus.

If they screw us again, we're winning the Super Bowl

Gruden was a blessing

I'm okay with Gruden being gone. Happy even.

But that #### was a straight up hit job and #### the league for pulling that b.s.!

Gruden wrote these emails and got what he deserved. If that didn’t remove all doubt that he’s an *******, I dont know what will.

He was an ####### without those emails. What he wrote was really bad. But I disagree that he got what he deserved.

The problem I have with your argument is how disqualifying is something like that? They way you framed it honestly means that he is entirely unemployable from that point for eternity. Is that justice in America?

Should we all be judged exclusively by the worst thing we have ever done? We'd all be ###### if that were the case.

Is there no growth? No possibility of redemption. Gruden stopped being an evolving, flawed, human being the moment he hit send?

That is a terrifying reality if that's the case.

We also need to separate the content of those emails from how they were discovered and released. There were over 600,000 emails that were discovered during the WFT investigation and only that handful ever saw the light of day. Are we to believe nothing else that would have been of public, or legal interest was found in the 599,995 other emails? They were carefully curated and weaponized.

Gruden was (is?) an ####### but even #######s deserve due process.

Gruden is, was, and always Will be, a giant narcissistic, self inflated, egomaniacal ahole.

Then we all are only the worst version ourselves and will never be anything else.

Nah. He’s just a chooch

 

[massraider]

Nah. He’s just a chooch

I think once he became Chucky in Oakland, he ate up the celebrity, and became this cartoon version of himself.

The young motivator who was fired up and ran an innovative offense became......Steve Mariucci basically.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Nah. He’s just a chooch

I think once he became Chucky in Oakland, he ate up the celebrity, and became this cartoon version of himself.

The young motivator who was fired up and ran an innovative offense became......Steve Mariucci basically.

With a dash of Steven a and quite a bit of the rock when he was wrestler

 

[Tanner9919]

playoff bound

 

[Chaka]

playoff bound

Please don't.

We don't handle high expectations well around here.

 

[massraider]

I know the world has Caleb on the brain, but man, doing a little sniffing around, there are a LOT of interesting QBs next year. I mean, that does not matter to us because Super Trooper, I am just saying, if we WERE looking for a QB next year, there are a lot of guys to keep your eye on.

 

[Bruno2]

I know the world has Caleb on the brain, but man, doing a little sniffing around, there are a LOT of interesting QBs next year. I mean, that does not matter to us because Super Trooper, I am just saying, if we WERE looking for a QB next year, there are a lot of guys to keep your eye on.

Stick with. Super Trooper, keep working with him and draft the best defensive player next year if things go sideways. O’Connell looked great, honestly, this preseason was best case scenario for his draft status.

 

[J Giles Band]

looked great, honestly, this preseason

Ummmm...

 

[Bruno2]

looked great, honestly, this preseason

Ummmm...

Yep, hopefully that’s all we see of him in 2023. But he looked good in the opportunities he’s been given

 

[LawFitz]

And on queue, mad Raiders drama just before season kickoff...

Raiders DE Chandler Jones deletes Instagram story where says he doesn't want to play for team anymore

Jones appeared frustrated after he claimed Raiders staff wouldn't let him into the team facility and he couldn't get ahold of Josh McDaniels or Ziegler.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Chaka]

Are you effing kidding me?

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[massraider]

Well, everyone here says Chandler was a terrible mistake, so who cares

 

[Enderdog]

Maybe he'll ask for his release and the Raiders can get the AB discount.

 

[Chadstroma]

Well, everyone here says Chandler was a terrible mistake, so who cares

A disgruntled Jones who can teach Wilson a lot isn't a good thing. I am not expecting much on the field from, certainly not to the level of his contract, but I did have high hopes he could mentor Wilson.

Sigh.

 

[kaso]

What the hell... Did you see where he says "I wanna have a pow wow with @AB and @AldonSmith" ?! Those are the guys you want advice from?!

 

[Bruno2]

No big loss. They still have Maxx and defensive coaches to help Wilson along.

 

[LawFitz]

Last thing they need is this kind of drama this week. I do wonder though, why he is being locked out of the facility. If that is the case, why didn't they just cut him? I can only guess they have been trying to trade him and/or they fear that if they let him inside, and injury would trigger some additional guarantees in his contract. Nothing else is making sense here that I can think of. On the face of it, Chandler is right to ask why they aren't letting him into the building. Weird **** right here, regardless.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

What the hell... Did you see where he says "I wanna have a pow wow with @AB and @AldonSmith" ?! Those are the guys you want advice from?!

this where the reports of his account possibly being hacked make sense. he's a well grounded guy by all accounts. it's all very weird.

 

[ICON211]

What the hell... Did you see where he says "I wanna have a pow wow with @AB and @AldonSmith" ?! Those are the guys you want advice from?!

this where the reports of his account possibly being hacked make sense. he's a well grounded guy by all accounts. it's all very weird.

Goodell and the league office probably behind this.

 

[raidersraidersraiders]

he forgot it was labor day

everyone was at home having barbecues with their families and jones went nuts

 

[ZADO]

Jimmy G restructured his contract freeing up 17 mil