Wentz could be like the Batman villian Two-Face.....you MIGHT get a good Wentz, you might get weirdo Wentz. From what I saw from that D and the skill position players they have, I'd gamble on Wentz.....or maybe Nick Foles.
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Wentz could be like the Batman villian Two-Face.....you MIGHT get a good Wentz, you might get weirdo Wentz. From what I saw from that D and the skill position players they have, I'd gamble on Wentz.....or maybe Nick Foles.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Just brutal Jets fans.
All they need is competent QB play and not sure Wilson will give them that.
Curious to see who they bring in.
All they need is competent QB play and not sure Wilson will give them that.
Curious to see who they bring in.
TLEF316
Footballguy
He wont. He's horrendous. He was horrendous 2 years ago and he's horrendous now.
The rest of the roster is so good (I mean....they won 7 games last year without Hall, AVT, Becton and all the other guys they've added) that they may still squeeze out close to a .500 record. But its over. The curse continues.
Balco
Footballguy
Not having a competent back up falls squarely in Joe Douglas’ shoulders.
Zach Wilson should not be on an active roster but Douglas (and Saleh) appear unwilling to admit their mistake. They should have cut bait in the offseason and signed a veteran backup - Rodgers has not been the picture of health the last several years. And Rodgers can be blamed as well for insisting Packers sign all of his buddies even if they are terrible (Tim Boyle)
Zach Wilson should not be on an active roster but Douglas (and Saleh) appear unwilling to admit their mistake. They should have cut bait in the offseason and signed a veteran backup - Rodgers has not been the picture of health the last several years. And Rodgers can be blamed as well for insisting Packers sign all of his buddies even if they are terrible (Tim Boyle)
Boston
Footballguy
Two names I was thinking about because you could get lucky and develop them as well are Tyler Huntley and Davis Mills.
Balco
Footballguy
And as far as possible qbs they need a game manager, someone who can limit turnovers and can excel at play action.
Wentz isn’t that qb (and if they wanted to swing for fences in the hopes of a resurgence I would be looking at Jameis Winston)
I’d be looking at Andy Dalton or Jacoby Brisset. Matt Ryan would get obliterated behind that O Line.
Wentz isn’t that qb (and if they wanted to swing for fences in the hopes of a resurgence I would be looking at Jameis Winston)
I’d be looking at Andy Dalton or Jacoby Brisset. Matt Ryan would get obliterated behind that O Line.
Balco
Footballguy
Davis Mills would actually be pretty interesting - he had zero talent in Houston and he showed flashes.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Wentz > Wilson
Ryan > Wilson
Flacco = Wilson
Wentz is garbage but I'd take him over Wilson. He might be the best and cheapest option they have.
Ryan > Wilson
Flacco = Wilson
Wentz is garbage but I'd take him over Wilson. He might be the best and cheapest option they have.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Can they get in on the Trey Lance dance?
TartanLion
Footballguy
Trade for Brissett ? Howell looks like the man in Washington now, don’t think his contract was too much and he looked steady for the Browns last year across multiple games. With your D etc he could be enough ? Just an idea
Todem
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's practically every team in the league - can't really fault him on that. Zach Wilson is not good, but he is probably mid-range in backup level QBs.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Looking at Jets upcoming 7 games. Brutal. Outside of Pats at home gonna be tough.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Washington is not trading away their veteran backup while Rivera is coaching for his job - Howell looked good but he's not exactly established yet.
Mills, I suppose is possible - but he's really not very good. I can't see going out and bringing in a Mills level QB and handing him the job after spending the offseason talking about "next man up"- even though he's likely better than Wilson.
Kirk Cousins or Matt Stafford are interesting possibilities - but not sure what the Jets would need to pay, given their desperation and those team not exactly giving up on the season yet.
Mills, I suppose is possible - but he's really not very good. I can't see going out and bringing in a Mills level QB and handing him the job after spending the offseason talking about "next man up"- even though he's likely better than Wilson.
Kirk Cousins or Matt Stafford are interesting possibilities - but not sure what the Jets would need to pay, given their desperation and those team not exactly giving up on the season yet.
rockaction
Footballguy
Wentz
Winston
Dalton
Brissett
Mills
Heinicke
Rivers
Ryan
Stafford?
Cousins?
Missing anybody?
These are all better options than Zach.
Winston
Dalton
Brissett
Mills
Heinicke
Rivers
Ryan
Stafford?
Cousins?
Missing anybody?
These are all better options than Zach.
rockaction
Footballguy
I can't bear another season of watching this guy play quarterback.
At least with Jameis (who I think I advocated for last time this came up) you'll be entertained aerially.
At least with Jameis (who I think I advocated for last time this came up) you'll be entertained aerially.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Jets should trade for Sean Clifford.. Everyone knows he is going to be the best QB ever when his career is done.
zamboni
Footballguy
I don't think seeing a big red dog behind center is going to help at this point. On second thought, maybe it will.
sheerterror
Footballguy
They do have an extra 1st rounder in their budget that they previously didn't anticipate having.....
Put me in the Jameis camp by the way. He seems like he's been dying to get another shot, seems to have matured, and IIRC had improved on his reads quite a bit after getting eye surgery a few years back. He's a clown [in a good way now] that could likely handle the inherent media pressure here the way ARod did. I think he would come in here beyond motivated to show his true potential, and the boys could certainly rally around a personality like his. Better than bringing someone literally off the street as all of those candidates are old/immobile and will get killed behind our oline, not to mention the time it would take to onboard the playbook - you could argue it wouldn't even net an upgrade over Zach until halfway through the season.
Winston or Dalton for me.
sheerterror
Footballguy
And interviewially....
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You've been trolling Rodgers to the Jets since the beginning - like a bitter ex-girlfriend.
Can you please do it in the Rodgers thread and not here. We're not interested in your personal issues.
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massraider
Footballguy
This is just my opinion, but I feel pretty confident about it:
The corny ginger would be a really bad fit with Jets fans.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
God no
rockaction
Footballguy
Just listing all the guys listed in the thread. I think Heinicke would be better than Wilson, and you know how I feel about Heinicke and his popgun arm. He'd at least have accuracy within twenty yards and can read a defense. Right now, everybody you find is going to have serious warts.
I know everyone thinks Zach Wilson sucks (and so do I) but he didnt look terrible last night. One bad throw that was intercepted. If anything the offensive line looked terrible and he was able to make a few nice plays avoiding sacks. Rodgers wouldve gotten murdered all night. Lets just put it this way, Wilson wasnt the worst QB on the field last night.
rockaction
Footballguy
How about trading a significant amount for Dorian Thompson-Robinson?
You just saw him in preseason and he lit you up. Try and pry him from the Browns somehow.
You just saw him in preseason and he lit you up. Try and pry him from the Browns somehow.
zamboni
Footballguy
No question. What the team needs is a steady veteran, team-first guy that can continue to mentor Zach and credibly take over if necessary. This is not Wentz.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yes he was. The announcers were gentle when they pointed out that the Bills were in man coverage with nine in the box. That's total disrespect for the passing game.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh brother, he's better. I guess we'll agree to disagree on that one.
markrc99
Footballguy
Yes!
I think Ryan Tannehill is already in a hold the fort while Levis gets better prepared. If the Jets offered up serious draft capital, perhaps TEN signs him to a bonus if the jets can't pay him? Given your list, he'd by far, present them their best chance.
zamboni
Footballguy
Even if the Titans are willing to move on from Tannehill, they're not going to do so at this point after week 1 and not seeming to have much faith in Willis or Levis yet. By the time the Titans are willing to move on, it might be too late for the Jets to even consider it (if they are even interested).Yes!
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I could see the Jets bringing in someone as insurance policy for Wilson but not to supplant him, at least immediately. The O Line won't be getting massively better any time soon and a less mobile veteran won't improve this offense's prospects that much. They could absolutely look at signing a guy like McCoy.
rockaction
Footballguy
I draw the line there. Colt McCoy gives you the same problem that Wilson gives you. Total disrespect for the passing game. What I'd rather have is a guy that can air it out but has a tendency to play hero ball. Get him to understand he's only making twenty-five throws a game and to eat the ball with this defense and live to fight another day, another series.
I think Winston and the uber-ginger Dalton really give them the most fightin-est chance and both can be had for a reasonable price, I'd assume.
zamboni
Footballguy
Good call - McCoy is probably the type of guy they'll be looking at.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Not sure what Winston's situation is but I don't see the Panthers giving away Dalton because they need that insurance behind Young. Winston would be as close to a home run for this offense as possible but again, not sure what it would take to close that deal.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Let's hope not.
rockaction
Footballguy
How about Ryan Fitzpatrick?
We could sign him to the background music of "Will The Circle Be Unbroken?"
We could sign him to the background music of "Will The Circle Be Unbroken?"
zamboni
Footballguy
Not after he unashamedly wore a Bills helmet on the Manning Cast.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
is that because you would rather let Zach get the reps on the off chance that he can still turn it around? I would think that Wentz would give them a better chance this year, even though he would probably be similarly maddening.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
joseph campbell alias?
Proteus
Footballguy
No, just the messenger.
But mythical archetypes aside, ya gotta admit it captures the imagination and would make a hell of a story.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm probably just a little over-emotional but I just don't like the idea of Wentz. I think you are right though, he at least gives them some chance and he is "free" so I would be ok bringing him in.
Nero
Footballguy
Teddy Bridgewater. I would think he is the most likely QB of the ones already on a team. He is on a one year contract and doesn’t need to be the veteran presence in his current QB room.
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I am not emotional about this and don't think he will be an improvement over Wilson.
MTskibum
Footballguy
It is a dart throw, you can bring him in and hope for 2021 wentz. He has had flashes throughout his career.
rockaction
Footballguy
They've got him in Detroit as part mentor. I don't think they'd let him walk for what the Jets would be willing to give up.
jurrassic
Footballguy
I just don't see how the Jets can expect to move forward with Wilson. They admitted, as a franchise, he wasn't the guy to get them where they want to go by bringing in Rodgers. Huge credit to the Jets for winning that game, but Allen was so so bad. All the Bills needed was 3 points and he just kept throwing up deep 50/50 balls .
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