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2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (2 Viewers)

I worry about losing BOTH coordinators. I don't think the personnel are all that different (quality wise) as a whole
Yeah not worried about losing Gannon. Good/Great QB's often torched his D.

Scratches head. You sure about that?

Top Passing performances against Eagles last season

Wk 16: Dak Prescott - 347 yards
Wk 12: Rodgers/Love - 253 yards
Wk 05: Kyler Murray - 250 yards
Wk 17: Dalton/Hill - 225 yards
Wk 02: Kirk Cousins - 221 yards
Wk 01: Jared Goff - 215 yards
Wk 11: Matt Ryan - 213 yards
SB: Patrick Mahomes 182 yards

Eagles led the league in Pass Yards Against, Net Yards per Attempt.
I am sure. Lets check out 2021:

Jimmy G: 22/30 1 td 189 yards 1 TD
Dak Game 1: 21/26 238, 3 TDs
Mahomes: 24-30 278 yards 5 TDs
Brady: 24-32 297 2 Tds
Derek Carr: 31-34 323 yards 2 TDs
Herbert: 32-38 356 yards 2 TDs

In my eyes, the scheme didn't really change or any adjustments last year. Just a better offense to put the defense in a better position, who added more quality players on that side of the ball.

Oh, we're going back to 2021. You're really reaching here. In the following offseason the defense added what turned out to be two Pro-Bowl caliber players: James Bradberry and Hasaan Reddick. Then if you count Brandon Graham who missed 14 games that year, the defense added a bunch of impact players who are still with the team. The offense was light-years better from 2021 to 2022, too. But all that is irrelevant, Gannon was the problem in 2021 and just riding coattails in 2022.
 
I worry about losing BOTH coordinators. I don't think the personnel are all that different (quality wise) as a whole
Yeah not worried about losing Gannon. Good/Great QB's often torched his D.

Scratches head. You sure about that?

Top Passing performances against Eagles last season

Wk 16: Dak Prescott - 347 yards
Wk 12: Rodgers/Love - 253 yards
Wk 05: Kyler Murray - 250 yards
Wk 17: Dalton/Hill - 225 yards
Wk 02: Kirk Cousins - 221 yards
Wk 01: Jared Goff - 215 yards
Wk 11: Matt Ryan - 213 yards
SB: Patrick Mahomes 182 yards

Eagles led the league in Pass Yards Against, Net Yards per Attempt.
I am sure. Lets check out 2021:

Jimmy G: 22/30 1 td 189 yards 1 TD
Dak Game 1: 21/26 238, 3 TDs
Mahomes: 24-30 278 yards 5 TDs
Brady: 24-32 297 2 Tds
Derek Carr: 31-34 323 yards 2 TDs
Herbert: 32-38 356 yards 2 TDs

In my eyes, the scheme didn't really change or any adjustments last year. Just a better offense to put the defense in a better position, who added more quality players on that side of the ball.

Oh, we're going back to 2021. You're really reaching here. In the following offseason the defense added what turned out to be two Pro-Bowl caliber players: James Bradberry and Hasaan Reddick. Then if you count Brandon Graham who missed 14 games that year, the defense added a bunch of impact players who are still with the team. The offense was light-years better from 2021 to 2022, too. But all that is irrelevant, Gannon was the problem in 2021 and just riding coattails in 2022.
Am I really reaching here? He was with the team as DC for 2 years, not just last year. Look at the comp% on some of these games. 31-34 from Derek Carr, who didn't have Davante Adams in 2021. 2022, the Eagles had on paper one of the easiest schedules in the league, so its not like there were a lot of high level QB's we faced last year.

We can agree to disagree, but I'm definitely not alone in the fanbase that "won't miss Gannon" and that's simply on production alone, notwithstanding his shenanigans leading up to the Super Bowl and kind of being a turd of a person.
 
Kelly Green jerseys will debut July 31st, along with which games we’ll wear them.
yuck.

I get nostalgia, but the new color schemes are far FAR more attractive. Never really liked the Kelly greens
I hear ya. Some of these "alt jerseys/helmets" of other teams make me really wanna puke though. I saw one of, I think maybe the Lions? last week and it looked straight out of a 90s arena league game. Broncos white helmet? Yeah no.
 
I worry about losing BOTH coordinators. I don't think the personnel are all that different (quality wise) as a whole

I agree Brian Johnson is a really good asistaint coach. Anthony Richardson had his best years by far with Johnson as his OC. He's a good coach but I don't think NFL experience ready yet for OC. Also not sure what to think of tanney at QB Coach. I'd have prefered we'd bring in Kellen Moore and kept Brian as the QB Coach for now.

I'm not well versed on Desai other then the Temple time and was less then impressed with him in CHI. A lot said it was the talent he had but even so a good coach does get the best he can out of the talent he has. I'm not gonna play doom and gloom there but I could see a situation where the defensive talent covers up for faults of his. Again not well versed but was less then impressed with his work outside of TU.
 
Eagles restructured the final year of Derek Barnett's contract. Less overall potential money in 2023 ($6M instead of $8.5M), but the guaranteed money increased from $1.5M to $3.5M. Makes him more likely to make the team as DE depth.
 
Sounds like Carter and Smith are making some noise in camp. It reminds of these pre draft observations by Bren Kollmann.

Carter

Smith
 
Sounds like Carter and Smith are making some noise in camp. It reminds of these pre draft observations by Bren Kollmann.

Carter

Smith

When ranking DTs: "Quinnen Williams...Aaron Donald...Jalen Carter" (that's some good company) ALSO, "best player I've graded in the past 10 years" - Oooh baby.
 
Is that Eagles practice thing worth going to? My friend has tickets he can't use so he offered them to me. Debating on whether to attend.

Money goes to the Eagles Autism Foundation. I was doing it to support that. The problem is despite the free parking it's just a training camp practice spiced up because the Eagles no loner allow fans to training camp normally besides special guest. Not a high chance of autograpghs unless you take one of the first few rows near the Eagles bench or tunnel. If yu're getting it for free you might as well do it especially if you are taking little ones.
 
Eagles restructured the final year of Derek Barnett's contract. Less overall potential money in 2023 ($6M instead of $8.5M), but the guaranteed money increased from $1.5M to $3.5M. Makes him more likely to make the team as DE depth.

I see him more likely traded if everything works out.
 
Is that Eagles practice thing worth going to? My friend has tickets he can't use so he offered them to me. Debating on whether to attend.

Money goes to the Eagles Autism Foundation. I was doing it to support that. The problem is despite the free parking it's just a training camp practice spiced up because the Eagles no loner allow fans to training camp normally besides special guest. Not a high chance of autograpghs unless you take one of the first few rows near the Eagles bench or tunnel. If yu're getting it for free you might as well do it especially if you are taking little ones.

I've been down to the Novacare complex for training practice a few years ago. It was fun sitting in the bleachers with all the local reporters listening to them talk off the record about the player, coaches and front office. They day I went there Peter King was doing a piece on the Eagles for one of his television segments. It was catered by Chickie and Pete's. Nate Allen came to our tent and signed autographs.

I don't really care to watch practice, though, Leaning towards declining. Don't think my kids care and my law firm is a huge supporter of the EAC, as we have a pretty big showing during the bike event.
 
Is that Eagles practice thing worth going to? My friend has tickets he can't use so he offered them to me. Debating on whether to attend.

Money goes to the Eagles Autism Foundation. I was doing it to support that. The problem is despite the free parking it's just a training camp practice spiced up because the Eagles no loner allow fans to training camp normally besides special guest. Not a high chance of autograpghs unless you take one of the first few rows near the Eagles bench or tunnel. If yu're getting it for free you might as well do it especially if you are taking little ones.

I've been down to the Novacare complex for training practice a few years ago. It was fun sitting in the bleachers with all the local reporters listening to them talk off the record about the player, coaches and front office. They day I went there Peter King was doing a piece on the Eagles for one of his television segments. It was catered by Chickie and Pete's. Nate Allen came to our tent and signed autographs.

I don't really care to watch practice, though, Leaning towards declining. Don't think my kids care and my law firm is a huge supporter of the EAC, as we have a pretty big showing during the bike event.

Yeah it's nowhere close to what you get at Novacare. If that's the experience you like the open practice isn't for you. Most of the press goes to the press area. You might see a few here and there before walking around and mingling with the crowd. A friend of mind is neighbors with Tim McManus so if I go with my buddy Tim will come see us before hand or after practice to talk.

When Dino Vasso was coaching with Pederson I'd go sit with his mom and her friends plus some of the players families would be in that area. I met BG's wife the one year and Dino's fiance and Wentz wife were both there another time. After he left I went to 2 other open practices and it wasn't the same. I really miss Lehigh or just the fact of watching practice and walking around daily while there. My grandparents had a house in Lake Harmony and my Mom's birthday they usually back then started camp around then so my mom would go up there. My Grandpaents would take my cousin and I up early and we'd sleep at the house and then go over to Lehigh for a few practices. Then we did autograpgh sessions. My most prized Auto is Jim Harbaugh when he was Special Teams coach. I always love telling people I got a SB winning coach's autograpgh. My cousin had a white Eagles T shirt that he got players to sign outside by the fence after practice he started when he first went. The shirt now is covered in signatures.

Those were the days. The younger crowd doesn't understand what they've missed now.
 
Is that Eagles practice thing worth going to? My friend has tickets he can't use so he offered them to me. Debating on whether to attend.

Money goes to the Eagles Autism Foundation. I was doing it to support that. The problem is despite the free parking it's just a training camp practice spiced up because the Eagles no loner allow fans to training camp normally besides special guest. Not a high chance of autograpghs unless you take one of the first few rows near the Eagles bench or tunnel. If yu're getting it for free you might as well do it especially if you are taking little ones.

I've been down to the Novacare complex for training practice a few years ago. It was fun sitting in the bleachers with all the local reporters listening to them talk off the record about the player, coaches and front office. They day I went there Peter King was doing a piece on the Eagles for one of his television segments. It was catered by Chickie and Pete's. Nate Allen came to our tent and signed autographs.

I don't really care to watch practice, though, Leaning towards declining. Don't think my kids care and my law firm is a huge supporter of the EAC, as we have a pretty big showing during the bike event.

Yeah it's nowhere close to what you get at Novacare. If that's the experience you like the open practice isn't for you. Most of the press goes to the press area. You might see a few here and there before walking around and mingling with the crowd. A friend of mind is neighbors with Tim McManus so if I go with my buddy Tim will come see us before hand or after practice to talk.

When Dino Vasso was coaching with Pederson I'd go sit with his mom and her friends plus some of the players families would be in that area. I met BG's wife the one year and Dino's fiance and Wentz wife were both there another time. After he left I went to 2 other open practices and it wasn't the same. I really miss Lehigh or just the fact of watching practice and walking around daily while there. My grandparents had a house in Lake Harmony and my Mom's birthday they usually back then started camp around then so my mom would go up there. My Grandpaents would take my cousin and I up early and we'd sleep at the house and then go over to Lehigh for a few practices. Then we did autograpgh sessions. My most prized Auto is Jim Harbaugh when he was Special Teams coach. I always love telling people I got a SB winning coach's autograpgh. My cousin had a white Eagles T shirt that he got players to sign outside by the fence after practice he started when he first went. The shirt now is covered in signatures.

Those were the days. The younger crowd doesn't understand what they've missed now.

I hear the Buddy Ryan, West Chester camps were good. Never went.
 
Sounds like Carter and Smith are making some noise in camp. It reminds of these pre draft observations by Bren Kollmann.

Carter

Smith

Just read on Facebook, Smith has been dominating the 2nd units in practice. He even beat Lane Johnson for a sack against Jalen Hurts. Can we get more than 70 sacks this season?
 
Sounds like Carter and Smith are making some noise in camp. It reminds of these pre draft observations by Bren Kollmann.

Carter

Smith

Just read on Facebook, Smith has been dominating the 2nd units in practice. He even beat Lane Johnson for a sack against Jalen Hurts. Can we get more than 70 sacks this season?
Let's wait till they put on pads before crowning their ***.
 
Swift being used primarily in the passing game so far according to McManus. Just training camp though. Who knows whats in store.
 
For you kelly green nuts, wearing them against Miami (prime time) and Buffalo (4pm, probably game of the week type deal).
 
4am tailgates at the Linc this morning with wrap-around lines by the time the doors opened. First people were in line at 2am at the Cherry Hill Pro Shop, 3am in Lancaster. Fanatics site crashed at 9am for a few minutes when the new gear went live. Adult Kelce S-XL all sold out in under 2 hours, in-stores and online (re-stock ships by Oct 27th.) Crazy.
 
4am tailgates at the Linc this morning with wrap-around lines by the time the doors opened. First people were in line at 2am at the Cherry Hill Pro Shop, 3am in Lancaster. Fanatics site crashed at 9am for a few minutes when the new gear went live. Adult Kelce S-XL all sold out in under 2 hours, in-stores and online (re-stock ships by Oct 27th.) Crazy.

Ended up getting a hurts vapor from pro shop site. I'm excited
 
Jalen Hurts personal phone, locked screen is a shot of him walking off the Super Bowl field as the confetti rained down for the Chiefs. This guy is just different.
The difference with Hurts is that he doesn't come off as doing it for phony motivation to prove to everyone he's motivated. He genuinely seems to be doing it to motivate himself.
Oh I agree. He doesn't really let "us in" all that much, but he definitely seems like one of those psycho athletes that take every single thing and turn it into motivation. All he cares about winning, improving and how to do it. Can't have too many of these kind of guys. Devonta seems like he is cut from the same cloth too.
 
Jalen Hurts personal phone, locked screen is a shot of him walking off the Super Bowl field as the confetti rained down for the Chiefs. This guy is just different.
The difference with Hurts is that he doesn't come off as doing it for phony motivation to prove to everyone he's motivated. He genuinely seems to be doing it to motivate himself.

and it should motivate the rest of the team
 
4am tailgates at the Linc this morning with wrap-around lines by the time the doors opened. First people were in line at 2am at the Cherry Hill Pro Shop, 3am in Lancaster. Fanatics site crashed at 9am for a few minutes when the new gear went live. Adult Kelce S-XL all sold out in under 2 hours, in-stores and online (re-stock ships by Oct 27th.) Crazy.

Fanatics said if ordered online you won’t receive the jersey till the bye week.
 
I really miss Lehigh
Don't worry, I still check in every once in a while. :wink:

I was going to school there during some of the camps and stayed during the summers so I was still around, I miss it too... but maybe actually being in college more...

Nice one

Yeah my grandmom sold the home 6 yrs after my Grandfather died. 1 it was hard to run by herself and we weren't renting it out to people (Jeff Gordon once rented out the place for the Pocono Races as well as some other drivers) so there was no income from it. Plus my grandmother was getting to the age she shouldn't be going up there by herself. Not exactly sure what happened to the idea that my grandmom was going to sell it inside the family but I think my dad would've bought it from her if he had that estate and money from it sooner as that's a big time investment he'd have gone in on.

So overall it's not like I'm missing much up there other then the fishing and I miss our Friends from NYC who are great people who got a home up there recently.
 
Also don't these people have jobs to go to? I mean obviously if they are spending $200 on a jersey. I'm very happy with my chinese "authentic" knock off for I get for 25-30 on DHGATE. Never had an issue and I get numerious compliments about them. Especially the Cunningham Jersey where a lot think it's a Mitchell and Ness Real one. No harm in going cheaper to save money especially these days.

Some of these people are just batshit crazy about these things.
 
C.J. Gardner-Johnson really burning those bridges. It's going to be a long day on Twitter for him at the end of the season if the DET defense doesn't meet those qualifiers that decide his contract incentives.

He’s not wrong honestly some of the fan base is too much especially those from talk radio. Fans are a tickled bunch a lot of times. There’s a lot of idiots amongst us abd I think instead of getting upset and defensive we need to do more to stop it.
I mean he was probably more pissed about his car being stolen then fans chirping
 
Jalen is killing it

"I didn't go through fire just to smell smoke." - Jalen "Metaphor King" Hurts

yeah but these numbers dont lie

from cbs

Jalen Hurts is on another level​

Hurts is already one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL, yet the Eagles quarterback is having his best start to training camp of his four-year career. Don't keep quarterback stats in camp, but he was tracked by several writers as going 15 of 17 with two touchdowns and no interceptions for what it's worth. Hurts is 50 of 60 for four touchdowns and zero interceptions through four practices.


Take practice numbers as they are, but Hurts has displayed excellent decision-making and arm motion throughout camp. He's processing information quicker and is on another level with his top two targets -- A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith.

Hurts got off to a strong start in camp last year and never stopped. Excellent sign for the Eagles.
 
Jalen is killing it

"I didn't go through fire just to smell smoke." - Jalen "Metaphor King" Hurts

yeah but these numbers dont lie

from cbs

Jalen Hurts is on another level​

Hurts is already one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL, yet the Eagles quarterback is having his best start to training camp of his four-year career. Don't keep quarterback stats in camp, but he was tracked by several writers as going 15 of 17 with two touchdowns and no interceptions for what it's worth. Hurts is 50 of 60 for four touchdowns and zero interceptions through four practices.


Take practice numbers as they are, but Hurts has displayed excellent decision-making and arm motion throughout camp. He's processing information quicker and is on another level with his top two targets -- A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith.

Hurts got off to a strong start in camp last year and never stopped. Excellent sign for the Eagles.

That could just mean that our secondary and linebackers are in trouble this year.
 
Is it possible that we haven't even seen Hurts' ceiling yet.
I would argue its likely we haven't seen his ceiling yet. He has improved every year of his football life since college. He has continuity, weapons and confidence now more than he ever has.
 
Was listening to the Go Birds pod and ESP said Jalen has not made a bad throw yet this camp. Like literally had never put the ball in harms way.
 
Is it possible that we haven't even seen Hurts' ceiling yet.
They were talking about this on the same pod. They talked about how a few years ago, it was always said that guys like Brady and Brees had so much experience and previous years' game film to reference that there "wasn't a defense or blitz package you could throw at them that they wouldn't know". Their point was that Hurts is only now getting to a point in his career that he has some legit film on himself and can see what other defenses have thrown at him.

Its only up from here.
 
Was listening to the Go Birds pod and ESP said Jalen has not made a bad throw yet this camp. Like literally had never put the ball in harms way.

Book your tickets to Las Vegas now.

Just checked my timeshare, already no availability for Superbowl weekend. Damn!
I'd guess that no matter what teams are there, it's going to be the most expensive super bowl of all time and it won't be close.
 
Was listening to the Go Birds pod and ESP said Jalen has not made a bad throw yet this camp. Like literally had never put the ball in harms way.

Book your tickets to Las Vegas now.

Just checked my timeshare, already no availability for Superbowl weekend. Damn!
I'd guess that no matter what teams are there, it's going to be the most expensive super bowl of all time and it won't be close.

Regular season games in that stadium you're paying $600 a ticket for nosebleeds. Man let me win the Superbowl lottery if the Eagles get there.
 

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