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2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (1 Viewer)
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The Noid
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Interesting nugget in this Athletic article polling NFL agents:
"Best GM" - Howie got the most votes (10 out of 23 votes)
"Which Front Office person do you trust the most" - Howie got zero votes (out of 23 votes)
In the GM game, nice guys finish last
Howie/Eagles also tied for 1st on "Best talent evaluator." Some of the comments, throughout:
• “Howie deserves so much credit, but a GM is only as good as their scouts, and the Eagles have had a great staff.”
• “Look, I hate to say it, but (Roseman) keeps putting together good rosters and wins games.”
• “Sometimes he’s cutthroat, but (Roseman) finds a way to get the right guys for the roster and their salary cap.”
• “(Roseman) gets ahead of extensions and gets guys to take less money. That’s a sign.”
"Best GM" - Howie got the most votes (10 out of 23 votes)
"Which Front Office person do you trust the most" - Howie got zero votes (out of 23 votes)
In the GM game, nice guys finish last
Howie/Eagles also tied for 1st on "Best talent evaluator." Some of the comments, throughout:
• “Howie deserves so much credit, but a GM is only as good as their scouts, and the Eagles have had a great staff.”
• “Look, I hate to say it, but (Roseman) keeps putting together good rosters and wins games.”
• “Sometimes he’s cutthroat, but (Roseman) finds a way to get the right guys for the roster and their salary cap.”
• “(Roseman) gets ahead of extensions and gets guys to take less money. That’s a sign.”
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DJackson10
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Interesting nugget in this Athletic article polling NFL agents:
"Best GM" - Howie got the most votes (10 out of 23 votes)
"Which Front Office person do you trust the most" - Howie got zero votes (out of 23 votes)
In the GM game, nice guys finish last
Howie/Eagles also tied for 1st on "Best talent evaluator." Some of the comments, throughout:
• “Howie deserves so much credit, but a GM is only as good as their scouts, and the Eagles have had a great staff.”
• “Look, I hate to say it, but (Roseman) keeps putting together good rosters and wins games.”
• “Sometimes he’s cutthroat, but (Roseman) finds a way to get the right guys for the roster and their salary cap.”
• “(Roseman) gets ahead of extensions and gets guys to take less money. That’s a sign.”
Both teams across the street at the Wells Fargo Center should take notes. This is how a proper Club is run. Great GM but also you can't always trust them in terms of being out for your interest. Also you dont award or enable poor behavior and have players run the show. Don't hand out terrible contracts and hand out deals you know you can get out of if need be
Insein
Footballguy
I like the fact that he has grown over the years. He made some bad mistakes but has learned to not make them again. Laurie deserves credit for sticking with him for the most part.Interesting nugget in this Athletic article polling NFL agents:
"Best GM" - Howie got the most votes (10 out of 23 votes)
"Which Front Office person do you trust the most" - Howie got zero votes (out of 23 votes)
In the GM game, nice guys finish last
Howie/Eagles also tied for 1st on "Best talent evaluator." Some of the comments, throughout:
• “Howie deserves so much credit, but a GM is only as good as their scouts, and the Eagles have had a great staff.”
• “Look, I hate to say it, but (Roseman) keeps putting together good rosters and wins games.”
• “Sometimes he’s cutthroat, but (Roseman) finds a way to get the right guys for the roster and their salary cap.”
• “(Roseman) gets ahead of extensions and gets guys to take less money. That’s a sign.”
I wish Howie Roseman was my GM.
Isaiah Rodgers was a quality starting CB who also played ST in Indy, and because of a gambling suspension, he's now an Eagle. Wouldn't be shocked he was starting for Philly in 2024, and at worst he's a top backup CB.
Great zero risk/high reward move.
Isaiah Rodgers was a quality starting CB who also played ST in Indy, and because of a gambling suspension, he's now an Eagle. Wouldn't be shocked he was starting for Philly in 2024, and at worst he's a top backup CB.
Great zero risk/high reward move.
DJackson10
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Per John Clark Source confirms Eagles DE Derek Barnett and his agent Drew Rosenhaus are seeing if there is anyone out there in the NFL that would trade for him and give him more playing time. The Eagles are not shopping him and would be happy if he stays. 
DJackson10
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The Eagles have signed former Colts cornerback Isaiah Rodgers who was suspended indefinitely for gambling on the Colts
Terpman22
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Fan of this move. They must know its not more than a year suspension I guess, considering its an "indefinite suspension" as of now.
DJackson10
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Was gonna say they must know it won’t be long
DJackson10
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Per Tim McManus both Tyrie Clevland and Zach McPhearson cut with injury designations
DJackson10
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DT Noah Ellis also cut with injury designation
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I don't see anything thanks to the ignore feature.
haha he said "you do realize Foles wins last years SB for us right?"
Snotbubbles
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Only if he's playing QB for KC.
Insein
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Wrong thread
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I wasn’t asking!
DJackson10
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Bleacher report did a 5 teams that shouldn’t trade for JT Eagles came in at 2
need2know
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DJackson10
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Philly voice on cuts that Eagles could take
If the Eagles were to add players, the following positions would make sense:
If the Eagles were to add players, the following positions would make sense:
- Punter: Arryn Siposs ain't it.
- Linebacker depth: The Eagles should be happy with Zach Cunningham as their starter opposite Nakobe Dean after Cunningham had a good camp, but Christian Elliss is the only sure thing to make the roster otherwise.
- Nose tackle: The Eagles have a lot of young, intriguing interior defensive linemen, but they don't really have a backup NT behind Jordan Davis.
- Backup center: Cam Jurgens is the center of the future and Landon Dickerson can play there in a pinch, but the Eagles would also probably like to have a guy who can fill in directly from the bench.
- Outside wide receiver: They're thin here, as Quez Watkins would be the first guy up should A.J. Brown or DeVonta Smith go down, and then the cupboard is bare thereafter.
- Pat O’Donnell 32In a bit of a surprise result, O'Donnell was beaten out by second-year undrafted punter Daniel Whelan. O'Donnell finished 22nd in punter EPA in 2022, one spot behind Siposs. 45.1 career yards per punt average, 39.2 career net. 44.5 yards per punt in 2022, with a 38.5 net. He had two punts blocked. O'Donnell is a better "pin deep" punter than he is an "open field" punter, just like Siposs. He's also 32, so there should be no reasonable hope that he'll get markedly better. He is probably not an ideal option.
• P Corliss Waitman (28): The Pats added Waitman during free agency this offseason, in March, but he lost his competition to rookie sixth-round pick Bryce Baringer. Waitman punted for the Broncos last season, averaging 46.6 yards per punt, and a net average of 41.4 yards per punt. Again, Waitman's "open field" and "pin deep" effectiveness is similar to Siposs'. He has been on five different NFL teams, but has only been his team's "starting" punter for one season. Again, I'm not sure he's the answer. - There two other punting battles that are worth watching today:
- Saints: Blake Gillikin vs. Lou Hedley
- Steelers: Pressley Harvin III vs. Braden Mann
We covered Gilliken vs. Hedley in a little more depth here. We'll update when that battle is decided.
Also, Adam Caplan pointed out a nugget that the Eagles attempted to claim Mann off of waivers in April. However, he was awarded to the Steelers, who also claimed him. Should the Steelers cut Mann, the Eagles could have interest. Linebacker depth
• LB Christian Kirksey (30): Kirksey had 124 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 INTs, and 5 pass breakups on a bad Texans team a year ago. He has been a starter for almost the entirety of his NFL career, so he would have to be willing to play a backup and special teams role (and make very little money) for the Eagles to add him. Assuming he finds somewhere to play, Kirksey is entering his 10th season in the NFL, the bulk of which has been with dreadful teams. If he's looking to chase a ring, that's the only way I could squint and see a fit, but it feels unlikely.
Nose tackle
Linval Joseph is still a free agent. Otherwise, there are no obvious available players yet.- • C Tyler Larsen (32): The Commanders cut Larsen, but could be bringing him back after they cut down to 53.
Outside wide receiver
No obvious available players yet.
DJackson10
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Eagles Waive Josiah Scott
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Definitely agree
DJackson10
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NEW PUNTER ALERT!!!!
@RealDGunn
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Eagles are releasing punter Arryn Siposs … obviously they are bringing in other punters to work out…
@RealDGunn
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Eagles are releasing punter Arryn Siposs … obviously they are bringing in other punters to work out…
need2know
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about damn time
DJackson10
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DGunn said on Rob Ellis show his source said the eagles ae working on bringing other P's in to see who they can sign
DJackson10
Footballguy
Not all roses and rainbows yet. Lets hope these punters work out
@JFMcMullen
#Eagles are moving on from Arryn Siposs for now. Plan to work out punters and if they don't like what they see a reunion could be in the works.
@RealDGunn
had it first
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Our former failed pick John Hightower was cut by the Chargers.
DJackson10
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Tarron Jackson• Devon Allen• Brady Russell• Greg Ward• Julian Good-Jones• Britain Covey• Tristin McCollum• Josiah Scott
Covey will be brought back to the PS if not claimed
Covey will be brought back to the PS if not claimed
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Give Matt Araiza a look.
Terpman22
Footballguy
If we don't keep Goodrich, Scott will be back. PS probably. We don't have a backup slot and it sure as heck isn't James Bradberry.
Derek Barnett still sticking around eh.
DJackson10
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I could see him cut honestly.
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Super Bowl hero Corey Clement cut by the Cardinals.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I don't. We wouldn't have re-did his deal if it was make the team or cut. Feels like he will either be on the team or part of some sort of trade really.
DJackson10
Footballguy
9 cuts to go
Canidates
OFF
Trey Sermon RB
Opeta Still Fred Johnson OL
DEF
DL Street Ojomo (Ojomo could be IR)
Barnett Kyron Robinson
LB Morrow VanSumerian
DB goodrich, Gardner Ricks
You got 13 guys plus any trades and theres some IR canidates with the mystery injury and RS them yr type.
1, Sermon
2-3. 2 of f Stills Oepta Jonshon8.
4. Ojom to IR
5. Barnett
6. Vansumerian
7. Goodrich
8. Gardner/Goodrich
Canidates
OFF
Trey Sermon RB
Opeta Still Fred Johnson OL
DEF
DL Street Ojomo (Ojomo could be IR)
Barnett Kyron Robinson
LB Morrow VanSumerian
DB goodrich, Gardner Ricks
You got 13 guys plus any trades and theres some IR canidates with the mystery injury and RS them yr type.
1, Sermon
2-3. 2 of f Stills Oepta Jonshon8.
4. Ojom to IR
5. Barnett
6. Vansumerian
7. Goodrich
8. Gardner/Goodrich
DJackson10
Footballguy
He's probably traded as I just went through a list of whos left and hes one of the remaining few who'd leave
Insein
Footballguy
That's what I was saying. Have to figure they've looked into it just like 30 other teams.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Doubt they do if everyone has past there’s stuff in there they either don’t trust or or didn’t like. If I’m correct wasnt university police investigating his issues? If so I would want an outside person doing it. Most of these police forces are run by the schools in these college towns not the people paying taxes.
JAA
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This
Last years team was the best overall Eagles team I have seen in my lifetime
DJackson10
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Trade alert! The #Broncos have traded TE Albert Okwuegbnaum and a 7th rounder to the #Eagles for a 6th rounder
DJackson10
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Kvon Wallace waived
Trade Details
#Eagles get
- Albert Okwuegbunam
- 2025 7th Round Pick
#Broncos get
- 2025 6th Round Pick
Trade Details
#Eagles get
- Albert Okwuegbunam
- 2025 7th Round Pick
#Broncos get
- 2025 6th Round Pick
Terpman22
Footballguy
Calcaterra or Stoll the odd man out? Guessing Calcaterra
jon007
Footballguy
One is a blocker the other a receiver. From what I've seen of these guys I like Calcaterra a little more.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Reading up on Albert O, didn't realize he was a good blocker. Yeah, its been good Stoll....
DJackson10
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#Eagles Roster Cuts 
1/2
CB Greedy Williams
WR Greg Ward
LB Nicholas Morrow
RB Trey Sermon
WR Tyrie Cleveland
DT Noah Elliss
Punter Ty Zentner
WR Devon Allen
LB Kyron Johnson
WR Britain Covey
WR Joseph Ngata
2/2
TE Dan Arnold
OG Josh Andrews
CB Zech McPhearson
WR Deon Cain
OT Dennis Kelly
OL Cameron Tom
OT Brett Toth
P Arryn Siposs
1/2CB Greedy Williams
WR Greg Ward
LB Nicholas Morrow
RB Trey Sermon
WR Tyrie Cleveland
DT Noah Elliss
Punter Ty Zentner
WR Devon Allen
LB Kyron Johnson
WR Britain Covey
WR Joseph Ngata
2/2TE Dan Arnold
OG Josh Andrews
CB Zech McPhearson
WR Deon Cain
OT Dennis Kelly
OL Cameron Tom
OT Brett Toth
P Arryn Siposs
rockaction
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Albert O. is not a good blocker. At all. That's why he wasn't playing.
You guys got Albert O for the Denzel Mims price. That should make one wary when they think they've found a diamond. . .
He might be great. I personally liked his talent. But the NFL doesn't seem to. That's two coaches now that have buried him on the depth chart.
You guys got Albert O for the Denzel Mims price. That should make one wary when they think they've found a diamond. . .
He might be great. I personally liked his talent. But the NFL doesn't seem to. That's two coaches now that have buried him on the depth chart.
Insein
Footballguy
3rd string TE. If he learns something, great. If not, he's cut. Life goes on.
rockaction
Footballguy
Right. I understand that. The question is whether the guys claiming he "can block" understand that. Or if this is one big cookie party with Roseman in the middle, I'll show myself the door.
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Former failed draft pick JJ Arcega-Whiteside cut by Atlanta.
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