2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (5 Viewers)

[Gachi]

I would love for this team to go back to the big game and win it all, but I don’t think it’s in the cards this year.

That Lombardi trophy has San Fran’s name written on it.

They don't crown champions in December.

I know. SF just looks unstoppable.

 

[modogg]

So i was just as concerned for this game as I was the SF game. Then I saw this, and I think our chances have gone up:

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[Insein]

I would love for this team to go back to the big game and win it all, but I don’t think it’s in the cards this year.

That Lombardi trophy has San Fran’s name written on it.

They don't crown champions in December.

I know. SF just looks unstoppable.

I expect a bit of a letdown this week from them. Probably still won but Seattle makes them sweat.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

They were talking about this a little on the radio today. Thinking about the seeding and what all that means to our playoff chances. If the season ended today, the seeding would go:

1. Eagles-NFC East
2. San Fran-NFC West
3. Detroit-NFC North
4. Atlanta-NFC South
5. Dallas-Wildcard 1
6. Minny-Wildcard 2
7. Packers-Wildcard 3

So week one, we'd get a bye.
SF would (presumably) beat the Packers
Detroit would presumably beat Minnesota
Dallas would beat Atlanta

In that scenario, we'd have to play Dallas in week 2 and one of Detroit or, more likely, SF in the NFCCG. While the bye is a great thing, that's a tough couple of games.

If we lose to Dallas this week and then us and Dallas win out, we'd still win the NFC east but be the 2 seed. If that happens, week one, SF gets the bye and...

We'd (presumably) beat the Packers
Detroit would presumably beat Minnesota
Dallas would beat Atlanta

Week 2 would send Detroit to us and Dallas to SF.
Assuming we beat Detroit, we'd face Dallas at home or SF in SF. You have to assume that the game between Dallas and SF would be knock down drag out fight. Just wondering if getting the 2 seed might be better than the 1. This of course stipulates that the bye week is huge and I'm only considering the prospective matchups.

If we don’t win the division, we’d be 5th seed, at best. Means we’d to to ATL, then, assuming we win and all the favorites win- we’d be going TO SF week 2.

That would be suboptimal.

That's not true. We have one NFC loss, Dallas has 3. If Dallas beats us we still hold the tie-breaker over them and assuming they win out and we win out we'd win the NFC East and be the 2 seed since Dallas would have beaten the Lions (giving them a third NFC loss).

I misread your original post. Yes, it’s still possible to lose to DAL and still win the NFCE. That’s make us the 2 seed.

I thought you wrote we could still be the 2 seed, even if we lost the NFCE. My bad.

 

[Terpman22]

I would love for this team to go back to the big game and win it all, but I don’t think it’s in the cards this year.

That Lombardi trophy has San Fran’s name written on it.

I feel the sentiment as the defense AND offense have taken steps back. But there have been improvements as well. Devonta is better. AJ looks like a top 2/3 WR. Reddick is the same guy, etc. Offensive line is still VERY good. Just a few too many steps back, but at the same time, I feel the entire league took steps back this year.

And yet we still have the best record in the NFL after 13 weeks.

Lot of football still to play. Lot of things can change with injury issues as well.

Lets see how it all plays out.

 

[Terpman22]

I would love for this team to go back to the big game and win it all, but I don’t think it’s in the cards this year.

That Lombardi trophy has San Fran’s name written on it.

They don't crown champions in December.

I know. SF just looks unstoppable.

They do, unless they miss 1 single key player and then the house of cards crumbles quick. We have been without Goedert for a bit now and no surprise, Hurts' completion % has taken a hit. That's how this game goes sometimes though. We got our RG back, our run stopping LB, a new LB that can hopefully help and Goedert is playing. All is not lost yet.

 

[babydemon90]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

Is he?

Everyone that watches football understands the jury is still out on Hurts. Except the green goggle wearing bunch

ETA: the jury is still out on Dak too. These guys have years of football left to play

I mean the jury isnt really 'out' on either of them? Both are quality NFL QB's. Dak's having a really good year. Hurts is down a bit after last year but still is a very good QB. Hurts has more to learn then Dak - because yea, Dak's more experienced in the league. This is essentially Dak's 7ths season starting, vs Hurt's 3rd. They also both really sucked when they played SF. But "everyone that watches football" isn't in a wait to see on Hurts. He's a good starter, even if yea, he struggled last week.

We'll see how they do on Sunday.

 

[renesauz]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

 

[renesauz]

Man. What a s***** game plan and performance. Took me a while, but I'm on the "get rid of Brian Johnson" bandwagon finally. The calls are just mediocre and not very well thought out. We need a change from him next year. I've been screaming "run the ball" every week for too long. We come out with pass/pass/pass on literally every single opening of every single game and its just too predictable now. Teams just play "cover everyone/go tackle Jalen" for the opening of every game now. I don't get it.

And Jalen, ffs man, you gotta stop trying these "go this way" directions in the pocket when you've already been sitting there for 5 seconds. Get rid of the ball. Or run. But sitting back there hoping something will open up in the next 1 second doesn't do anything for me.

And lastly, Howie. I give the guy all the credit in the world, but I hope this is another lesson he will add to his list of corrections: f****** invest in the LB position already. Like, its really really REALLY bad now. We have marginal talent and zero depth. Tight ends and running backs just eat us for lunch these days.

And Bradley Roby - if he is here WHY are we still throwing Eli Ricks out there? An UDFA running around in some of the most important games is just unacceptable. If he was playing well, I'd get it, but....he is not.

Dallas is gonna be super ready for us. They will be happy the Niners beat us "see its not just us!" and ready to take this division from us. We must turn this around quick or its over real fast.

nah even if dallas beats us next week they are gonna drop another game or 2. i could see the bills, miami, or detroit getting them. the division is ours. the number 1 seed though? i dunno

this. Eagles will be road dogs this week, and Dallas will be well up for it. Assuming the Eagles take care of business the final three weeks, either the Cowboys game or the Seahawks game will put them in the drivers seat for the division. But the margin of error for top seed may be 0.

The idea of resting players early might be out the door. But the Niners remaining schedule isn’t exactly easy. I feel like the Eagles should be ok even if they lose to Dallas as long as they win out after that.

BUt they will no longer control their own destiny.

TBH, the 2 seed wouldn't be the end of the world. This team can compete in SF, and if it came to that it would be with the SB trip on the line

Is that definitely true? What if there is like 3 or 4 teams in the NFC that end up with 3 losses? Do the Eagles win a tiebreaker?

Besides SF, who else is remotely likely to finish with 3??

SF, Eagles, Dallas, Detroit, although If I had to pick 3 teams Dallas would not be included b/c they are going to drop 1 or 2 methinks

Detroit will lose another too.

Eagles are almost through the rough part of their schedule. Detroit, Dallas, and SF still have some tough games

 

[Terpman22]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

Yeah being honest every time I see Gainwell get a carry my soul dies a little bit. Swift is just a homerun threat every time he touches the ball. You can just see it. I really wish they could figure out the running game and screen game. He caught some really cool passes and had some really good runs in KC, and then we just said

HEEEERRE'S KENNY!

 

[Gachi]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

Is he?

Everyone that watches football understands the jury is still out on Hurts. Except the green goggle wearing bunch

ETA: the jury is still out on Dak too. These guys have years of football left to play

I mean the jury isnt really 'out' on either of them? Both are quality NFL QB's. Dak's having a really good year. Hurts is down a bit after last year but still is a very good QB. Hurts has more to learn then Dak - because yea, Dak's more experienced in the league. This is essentially Dak's 7ths season starting, vs Hurt's 3rd. They also both really sucked when they played SF. But "everyone that watches football" isn't in a wait to see on Hurts. He's a good starter, even if yea, he struggled last week.

We'll see how they do on Sunday.

Dak is a top NFL QB, to say the jury is still out on him is very odd. Especially from a cowboys fan.

I will say this, the main difference is Jalen has the potential to have a higher ceiling. I think this is the best Dak has to offer, which is still pretty good. Is he not a top 5 passer?

 

[need2know]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

Yeah being honest every time I see Gainwell get a carry my soul dies a little bit. Swift is just a homerun threat every time he touches the ball. You can just see it. I really wish they could figure out the running game and screen game. He caught some really cool passes and had some really good runs in KC, and then we just said

HEEEERRE'S KENNY!

Feel like we haven't run a rb screen in weeks. We should be trying to do it all.the time

 

[Terpman22]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

Yeah being honest every time I see Gainwell get a carry my soul dies a little bit. Swift is just a homerun threat every time he touches the ball. You can just see it. I really wish they could figure out the running game and screen game. He caught some really cool passes and had some really good runs in KC, and then we just said

HEEEERRE'S KENNY!

Feel like we haven't run a rb screen in weeks. We should be trying to do it all.the time

Yeah its like we are allergic to it. Figure it would be a bread and butter kinda thing with the athletic line we have. Another curse on my Brian Johnson Voodoo doll

 

[babydemon90]

Man. What a s***** game plan and performance. Took me a while, but I'm on the "get rid of Brian Johnson" bandwagon finally. The calls are just mediocre and not very well thought out. We need a change from him next year. I've been screaming "run the ball" every week for too long. We come out with pass/pass/pass on literally every single opening of every single game and its just too predictable now. Teams just play "cover everyone/go tackle Jalen" for the opening of every game now. I don't get it.

And Jalen, ffs man, you gotta stop trying these "go this way" directions in the pocket when you've already been sitting there for 5 seconds. Get rid of the ball. Or run. But sitting back there hoping something will open up in the next 1 second doesn't do anything for me.

And lastly, Howie. I give the guy all the credit in the world, but I hope this is another lesson he will add to his list of corrections: f****** invest in the LB position already. Like, its really really REALLY bad now. We have marginal talent and zero depth. Tight ends and running backs just eat us for lunch these days.

And Bradley Roby - if he is here WHY are we still throwing Eli Ricks out there? An UDFA running around in some of the most important games is just unacceptable. If he was playing well, I'd get it, but....he is not.

Dallas is gonna be super ready for us. They will be happy the Niners beat us "see its not just us!" and ready to take this division from us. We must turn this around quick or its over real fast.

nah even if dallas beats us next week they are gonna drop another game or 2. i could see the bills, miami, or detroit getting them. the division is ours. the number 1 seed though? i dunno

this. Eagles will be road dogs this week, and Dallas will be well up for it. Assuming the Eagles take care of business the final three weeks, either the Cowboys game or the Seahawks game will put them in the drivers seat for the division. But the margin of error for top seed may be 0.

The idea of resting players early might be out the door. But the Niners remaining schedule isn’t exactly easy. I feel like the Eagles should be ok even if they lose to Dallas as long as they win out after that.

BUt they will no longer control their own destiny.

TBH, the 2 seed wouldn't be the end of the world. This team can compete in SF, and if it came to that it would be with the SB trip on the line

Is that definitely true? What if there is like 3 or 4 teams in the NFC that end up with 3 losses? Do the Eagles win a tiebreaker?

Besides SF, who else is remotely likely to finish with 3??

SF, Eagles, Dallas, Detroit, although If I had to pick 3 teams Dallas would not be included b/c they are going to drop 1 or 2 methinks

Detroit will lose another too.

Eagles are almost through the rough part of their schedule. Detroit, Dallas, and SF still have some tough games

SF's only challenge unless they drop an unexpected game is going to be the Ravens. Dallas has a tough stretch for sure - even if the Eagles lose this week they're still in great shape for the division.
That said, there's a great chance for SF to win out so I do think Eagles need to win to get the bye.

 

[Gachi]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

Yeah being honest every time I see Gainwell get a carry my soul dies a little bit. Swift is just a homerun threat every time he touches the ball. You can just see it. I really wish they could figure out the running game and screen game. He caught some really cool passes and had some really good runs in KC, and then we just said

HEEEERRE'S KENNY!

Feel like we haven't run a rb screen in weeks. We should be trying to do it all.the time

I feel like we attempted one last week but the defense sniffed it out really well

 

[unckeyherb]

i thought gainwell actually looked ok yesterday. anyways, what happened to Slay? i think we all know Bradberry is done. but I thought slay would be able to make some plays. never even hear his name during the game

Yeah...I agree. Gainwell isn't as dynamic as Swift as a runner, but he's a pretty good third down back. Blocks well, catches well. Does all the little things. I wanna see more Swift just like everyone else, but it isn't because I don't like Kenny

Yeah being honest every time I see Gainwell get a carry my soul dies a little bit. Swift is just a homerun threat every time he touches the ball. You can just see it. I really wish they could figure out the running game and screen game. He caught some really cool passes and had some really good runs in KC, and then we just said

HEEEERRE'S KENNY!

Feel like we haven't run a rb screen in weeks. We should be trying to do it all.the time

how about that Jet Sweep we ran Swift on for 12-15 yards a couple times a few weeks ago? Throw someone in motion once in while? 5 yard slants to one of the hardest WR's in the league to tackle?

 

[Insein]

Patriots claim Christian Ellis off of waivers.

 

[Terpman22]

Patriots claim Christian Ellis off of waivers.

It was a fun preseason of hype for this guy at least.

 

[DJackson10]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

Because I don’t think he really reads the defenses well. Steichen schemed a lot of stuff to open guys up and windows for him to throw to and his running ability opened up lanes. Hurts was very comfortable with the scheme run last year the RPos are all but gone and running less playaction.

I also think he’s more hurt then he says or the team. Talk going around from folks I know think he got hurt early in camp and that’s why the Eagles. Didn’t play starters in preseason. They think maybe it’s an injury that might need to be taken care of with surgery in the offseason and I Joe be surprised if we heard at some Point he had offseason surgery on the knee. More clean up etc to fix the overall issue nothing too major. It could also be why they are running less plays involving hurts legs

 

[DJackson10]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

By what metric? It ain’t personal man. Put Dak on your team with those weapons and line, he demolishes Hurts numbers.

The cracks are already starting to show.

daks also been in the league what 6 more years than hurts?

But I thought he was better already?

This is a brand new offense for Dak and company. Year 1. We all see what Kellen Moore’s predictable system is doing in SD.

Dak was drafted in 2016, Hurts in 2020.

feels like hes been there forever. hurts has def had more success

I don’t want to get into a pissing match with you. We both have made out stances clear. We can do that after their careers are over.

Dak has warts too. I have been critical of him. He STILL throws behind guys instead of leading them. He can be inconsistent with that.

My biggest worry honestly is the way he gets tackled sometimes. The ball is just hanging out there and I’m shocked he hasn’t fumbled more the way he fights to stay on his feet.

My biggest fear is if people see him as a Russel Wilson we see where Russ is right now and we’re seeing hurts what he can or can’t do without his legs now. If that’s the Hurts I’m getting when his legs do go I’m making sure I got a guy ready or a plan in place before hand. When the time comes after this deal ends I probably am really hesitant to sign him long term again to the next deal. I’d rather trade a guy one year too early instead of one year too late though.

Something clearly isn’t right.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

By what metric? It ain’t personal man. Put Dak on your team with those weapons and line, he demolishes Hurts numbers.

The cracks are already starting to show.

daks also been in the league what 6 more years than hurts?

But I thought he was better already?

This is a brand new offense for Dak and company. Year 1. We all see what Kellen Moore’s predictable system is doing in SD.

Dak was drafted in 2016, Hurts in 2020.

Hurts is under a new coordinator too fwiw. And for the most part, the playcalling has been pedestrian/average at best. The RPOs that really allowed for him to flourish last year are gone.

We could do the "give Hurts Dallas' defense" just as easy as people love to do the "Give My QB Hurts' weapons" I'm pretty sure the Eagles would not have a loss if they had Dallas' defense and DC.

And in the end comparing "who the better QB" is sorta fun, but it really doesn't matter in the end. Hurts has started like less than 50 games. Still developing. A more fair comparison probably is Hurts to Burrow/Tua/Herbert/Fields and for Dak its Goff, bc as we know it takes QB's a long time to get to their peak and truly develop. And its not a big surprise "QB's need weapons to be good"

I always ask the question "Who is your top 3-5 QBs with no good weapons" and the list either never happens or its littered with guys like Trevor Lawrence,, Jordan Love, etc.

Give Tony Romo - McNabb's defense.

Give Troy Hambrick - Barry Sanders' agility... what are we even talking about? Talking about giving Hurts the Cowboys defense (that was just talked about being shredded by the Seahawks upthread) seems like a ridiculous request and plays into exactly what we are saying... Give Hurts a defense, so he can sit on leads and not be a QB. Dak is putting up better numbers with less and that is the comparison.

I guess my point was doing these hypotheticals is silly. If you are proud your 30 year old QB in his 9th year is outperforming a guy that hasn't started 3 full seasons, then that's cool. Good for you. Dak is playing better ball right now, sure. But I think both sort of have a reputation right now for who they are.

Hurts - Wills his team to win, is a guy that never gets down. Is a winner, despite the stats. The moment isn't too big for him.

Dak - big pressure moments, not so great. Puts up great regular season stats, but come playoff time, not so much. 11 career playoff passing TDs, but 7 came in 2 games. One being a home loss as the one seed and another being against the worst playoff team last year.

If you disagree with these takes that is fine. Its all opinion based.

With all due respect, you are seeing what you want to see. The Eagles are winning inspite of Jalen. Hurts has done nothing this year to match your description of him. The Eagles are absolutely loaded on offense, arguably the best offensive line in football... top 5 WR duo. Top 5 TE. If you are happy with Hurts' numbers despite having possibly the most well rounded offense around him... good for you.

FWIW, talking about Playoff Football... Hurts has 4 passing TD's in 4 playoff games... 9 total touchdowns in 4 games. Dak has 11 passing TD's in 6 games and 16 total touchdowns in 6 games. I'm not sure if that is an argument won on my side or not?

Average TD per game for Jalen Hurts is 2.25
Average TD per game for Dak Prescott is 2.66

I don't really care how you dice it and I am not saying this because I hate the Eagles... Jalen Hurts is just an average QB with great athleticism. He was fortunate to play a dinged 49ers team last year and Dak ran into an absolute buzz saw. If the Eagles were playing the 49ers the last 2 years at the same time... you'd be singing a different tune about Jalen being this big time gamer.

 

[DJackson10]

Patriots claim Christian Ellis off of waivers.

6 teams tried to claim him per Feild Yates

New Patriots LB Christian Elliss was an extremely popular player on waivers, as six teams put in a claim on him, per source:

Patriots
Cardinals
Titans
Falcons
Broncos
Dolphins

Elliss had played in all 12 games for Philly and started this past Sunday against the 49ers.

 

[GoBirds]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

By what metric? It ain’t personal man. Put Dak on your team with those weapons and line, he demolishes Hurts numbers.

The cracks are already starting to show.

daks also been in the league what 6 more years than hurts?

But I thought he was better already?

This is a brand new offense for Dak and company. Year 1. We all see what Kellen Moore’s predictable system is doing in SD.

Dak was drafted in 2016, Hurts in 2020.

Hurts is under a new coordinator too fwiw. And for the most part, the playcalling has been pedestrian/average at best. The RPOs that really allowed for him to flourish last year are gone.

We could do the "give Hurts Dallas' defense" just as easy as people love to do the "Give My QB Hurts' weapons" I'm pretty sure the Eagles would not have a loss if they had Dallas' defense and DC.

And in the end comparing "who the better QB" is sorta fun, but it really doesn't matter in the end. Hurts has started like less than 50 games. Still developing. A more fair comparison probably is Hurts to Burrow/Tua/Herbert/Fields and for Dak its Goff, bc as we know it takes QB's a long time to get to their peak and truly develop. And its not a big surprise "QB's need weapons to be good"

I always ask the question "Who is your top 3-5 QBs with no good weapons" and the list either never happens or its littered with guys like Trevor Lawrence,, Jordan Love, etc.

Give Tony Romo - McNabb's defense.

Give Troy Hambrick - Barry Sanders' agility... what are we even talking about? Talking about giving Hurts the Cowboys defense (that was just talked about being shredded by the Seahawks upthread) seems like a ridiculous request and plays into exactly what we are saying... Give Hurts a defense, so he can sit on leads and not be a QB. Dak is putting up better numbers with less and that is the comparison.

I guess my point was doing these hypotheticals is silly. If you are proud your 30 year old QB in his 9th year is outperforming a guy that hasn't started 3 full seasons, then that's cool. Good for you. Dak is playing better ball right now, sure. But I think both sort of have a reputation right now for who they are.

Hurts - Wills his team to win, is a guy that never gets down. Is a winner, despite the stats. The moment isn't too big for him.

Dak - big pressure moments, not so great. Puts up great regular season stats, but come playoff time, not so much. 11 career playoff passing TDs, but 7 came in 2 games. One being a home loss as the one seed and another being against the worst playoff team last year.

If you disagree with these takes that is fine. Its all opinion based.

With all due respect, you are seeing what you want to see. The Eagles are winning inspite of Jalen. Hurts has done nothing this year to match your description of him. The Eagles are absolutely loaded on offense, arguably the best offensive line in football... top 5 WR duo. Top 5 TE. If you are happy with Hurts' numbers despite having possibly the most well rounded offense around him... good for you.

FWIW, talking about Playoff Football... Hurts has 4 passing TD's in 4 playoff games... 9 total touchdowns in 4 games. Dak has 11 passing TD's in 6 games and 16 total touchdowns in 6 games. I'm not sure if that is an argument won on my side or not?

Average TD per game for Jalen Hurts is 2.25
Average TD per game for Dak Prescott is 2.66

I don't really care how you dice it and I am not saying this because I hate the Eagles... Jalen Hurts is just an average QB with great athleticism. He was fortunate to play a dinged 49ers team last year and Dak ran into an absolute buzz saw. If the Eagles were playing the 49ers the last 2 years at the same time... you'd be singing a different tune about Jalen being this big time gamer.

I’ll take Wins and way younger vs a guy that never comes through in the playoffs. Just me though.

 

[Terpman22]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

By what metric? It ain’t personal man. Put Dak on your team with those weapons and line, he demolishes Hurts numbers.

The cracks are already starting to show.

daks also been in the league what 6 more years than hurts?

But I thought he was better already?

This is a brand new offense for Dak and company. Year 1. We all see what Kellen Moore’s predictable system is doing in SD.

Dak was drafted in 2016, Hurts in 2020.

Hurts is under a new coordinator too fwiw. And for the most part, the playcalling has been pedestrian/average at best. The RPOs that really allowed for him to flourish last year are gone.

We could do the "give Hurts Dallas' defense" just as easy as people love to do the "Give My QB Hurts' weapons" I'm pretty sure the Eagles would not have a loss if they had Dallas' defense and DC.

And in the end comparing "who the better QB" is sorta fun, but it really doesn't matter in the end. Hurts has started like less than 50 games. Still developing. A more fair comparison probably is Hurts to Burrow/Tua/Herbert/Fields and for Dak its Goff, bc as we know it takes QB's a long time to get to their peak and truly develop. And its not a big surprise "QB's need weapons to be good"

I always ask the question "Who is your top 3-5 QBs with no good weapons" and the list either never happens or its littered with guys like Trevor Lawrence,, Jordan Love, etc.

Give Tony Romo - McNabb's defense.

Give Troy Hambrick - Barry Sanders' agility... what are we even talking about? Talking about giving Hurts the Cowboys defense (that was just talked about being shredded by the Seahawks upthread) seems like a ridiculous request and plays into exactly what we are saying... Give Hurts a defense, so he can sit on leads and not be a QB. Dak is putting up better numbers with less and that is the comparison.

I guess my point was doing these hypotheticals is silly. If you are proud your 30 year old QB in his 9th year is outperforming a guy that hasn't started 3 full seasons, then that's cool. Good for you. Dak is playing better ball right now, sure. But I think both sort of have a reputation right now for who they are.

Hurts - Wills his team to win, is a guy that never gets down. Is a winner, despite the stats. The moment isn't too big for him.

Dak - big pressure moments, not so great. Puts up great regular season stats, but come playoff time, not so much. 11 career playoff passing TDs, but 7 came in 2 games. One being a home loss as the one seed and another being against the worst playoff team last year.

If you disagree with these takes that is fine. Its all opinion based.

With all due respect, you are seeing what you want to see. The Eagles are winning inspite of Jalen. Hurts has done nothing this year to match your description of him. The Eagles are absolutely loaded on offense, arguably the best offensive line in football... top 5 WR duo. Top 5 TE. If you are happy with Hurts' numbers despite having possibly the most well rounded offense around him... good for you.

FWIW, talking about Playoff Football... Hurts has 4 passing TD's in 4 playoff games... 9 total touchdowns in 4 games. Dak has 11 passing TD's in 6 games and 16 total touchdowns in 6 games. I'm not sure if that is an argument won on my side or not?

Average TD per game for Jalen Hurts is 2.25
Average TD per game for Dak Prescott is 2.66

I don't really care how you dice it and I am not saying this because I hate the Eagles... Jalen Hurts is just an average QB with great athleticism. He was fortunate to play a dinged 49ers team last year and Dak ran into an absolute buzz saw. If the Eagles were playing the 49ers the last 2 years at the same time... you'd be singing a different tune about Jalen being this big time gamer.

I'm sure its just a coincidence that the Eagles have had the best record or tied for the best record since the start of last year. I truly don't know what to believe from that naysayers anymore.

List of excuses for why the Eagles are good:

Easy Schedule
The refs
Best weapons ever
Nick Sirianni is overrated
Jalen Hurts is a RB that is getting lucky

I mean at some point you gotta just start discounting some of this crap b/c it all can't be true. And I'm not saying *you* are saying this but these are the themes I hear.

So I guess we are seeing things differently. I saw a guy on my team play one of the greatest Super Bowl performances is, ableit in a loss. I see you conveniently go to the game in SF instead of the game that was the bigger game, the Super Bowl. You can dice it up numbers wise how you want that is fine. People like to go "he just tush pushes his way to touchdowns" ignoring the fact on "well how did they get there" Is the Eagles running game some dominant force or is it more that Jalen passes to guys who then get tackled inside the 5 a lot?

I see a guy that literally wills his team to victory. Is this the greatest offense in NFL history am I crazy? B/c last year all I heard was it was due to the easiest schedule in sports history, but now its "loaded team" and if its not the greatest offense and greatest offensive line in NFL history or not really close, then its just a plain coincidence he had something like 8 consecutive wins when down double digits when the next closest *in NFL history* was 4.

How I WILL admit he is not playing as well as he did last year. But he is on pace for like 40+ total touchdowns so if that is a "down" year then sure I'll take 40 touchdowns for a down year. The offensive coordinator is not creative, is a brand new playcaller and yeah, growing pains are happening.

Dak is having a great season, but if you can tell me with a straight face he doesn't crumble under pressure, often, I don't know what to say. Ran into a buzz saw last year? Had he played a clean game, made good reads they would have won. But he didn't, he threw 2 costly INTs, one being in the red zone, and they lost.

Would you say Dak is better or worse than Matt Stafford? B/c if I recall, Matt Stafford had zero issue dicing up the 49ers after they beat you guys the year before. Or am I misremembering how things played out?

Like I said, Dak is 30 years old, playing in his 8th year. He's got a ton of experience. I will say this, considering the year he is having, the players he has on his team, etc, there should be zero excuses for him to not get past the divisional round this year, but we will see how it all plays out.

If you want to say Jalen is some mid level QB, that can't make reads like David Carr believes and that vegas is wrong on his MVP odds, along with the players who I believe voted him #3 overall player last year, that is fine its your opinion. Its just a minority opinion.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I see a guy that literally wills his team to victory

Sweet Jesus

 

[renesauz]

For those who missed it nfl network was talking about the Eagles. David Carr made a mention about sitting hurt for Marriott’s but it’s not as bad as people are thinking or the Philly media is making it. What Carr was saying and speculating is Hurts isn’t healthy and maybe hurting the offense and run game more staying out on the field. Why not give Hurts a game or two off and let Marcus who is a similar style run the offense and see if it helps hurts. He ends his comments and theory saying a healthy hurts and the eagles can definately win the sb.

I really don’t see where he’s wrong other then yeah we got two important games coming up SNF and following MNF the week after however his comments taken for as they are make a lot of sense. Now depending where they are after the next 2 games maybe they could afford to do it but presently if Hurts is hurting the club more not 100% then why keep him out there and risk further or worse injury? There’s gutting it out and doing great then there’s gutting it out to where you being out there is worse for the team and you. All people saw on this was the headlines and went ballistic

Former NFL QB David Carr doubles down on Jalen Hurts comments, says he should be benched for Marcus Mariota

Former NFL quarterback David Carr got roasted on social media Tuesday night for his comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, saying the team should bench him for Marcus Mariota.

www.cbsnews.com

You and I will be right in the end. We’re batting 1.000 on this topic.

Don’t expect any apologies.


ETA - I may be crazy, but not crazy enough to start Mariota over Hurts.

This is not the time to be benching your starting QB (even if he is a little hurt). Mariota is not a good QB and IMO the Eagles would almost certainly lose both of their next 2 games if he’s the QB. Also if Hurts really is hurt, why is he holding onto the ball so long? I would think they would want to call plays for him to get that ball out quickly.

I agree. I would rather a project QB over Mariota. Shouldnt even be in the league.

My comment to DJax about “us” being right is the long term prospect of Hurts. If I’m wrong I’ll eat crow but I don’t think I am.

hurts already better than dak. you must really hate dak then

Is he?

Everyone that watches football understands the jury is still out on Hurts. Except the green goggle wearing bunch

ETA: the jury is still out on Dak too. These guys have years of football left to play

I mean the jury isnt really 'out' on either of them? Both are quality NFL QB's. Dak's having a really good year. Hurts is down a bit after last year but still is a very good QB. Hurts has more to learn then Dak - because yea, Dak's more experienced in the league. This is essentially Dak's 7ths season starting, vs Hurt's 3rd. They also both really sucked when they played SF. But "everyone that watches football" isn't in a wait to see on Hurts. He's a good starter, even if yea, he struggled last week.

We'll see how they do on Sunday.

Dak is a top NFL QB, to say the jury is still out on him is very odd. Especially from a cowboys fan.

I will say this, the main difference is Jalen has the potential to have a higher ceiling. I think this is the best Dak has to offer, which is still pretty good. Is he not a top 5 passer?

agreed. Dak is easily top ten, and I couldn't argue strongly against top 5

 

[Insein]

Just saw the Sean McDermott story about him using 9/11 hijackers as an example to follow for coordination and teamwork. I'm gonna pass on him coming back to the Eagles... Ever. WTF is wrong with him?

 

[JetMaxx]

Lane Johnson nominated for Man of the Year

 

[Deamon]

Just saw the Sean McDermott story about him using 9/11 hijackers as an example to follow for coordination and teamwork. I'm gonna pass on him coming back to the Eagles... Ever. WTF is wrong with him?

Usually those stories aren't as bad as the headlines make them out to be.

But holy hell, the story and depth he went into about it is far worse than the headline states.

 

[need2know]

Just saw the Sean McDermott story about him using 9/11 hijackers as an example to follow for coordination and teamwork. I'm gonna pass on him coming back to the Eagles... Ever. WTF is wrong with him?

Yikes

 

[Deamon]

Just saw the Sean McDermott story about him using 9/11 hijackers as an example to follow for coordination and teamwork. I'm gonna pass on him coming back to the Eagles... Ever. WTF is wrong with him?

Usually those stories aren't as bad as the headlines make them out to be.

But holy hell, the story and depth he went into about it is far worse than the headline states.

"McDermott told players in a speech to come together and used the terrorists on 9/11 as an example, asking players in the room questions about how the attacks were executed and referencing the hijackers getting on the same page. Multiple players who were with the team at the time confirmed the story to the ESPN

When asked why he mentioned 9/11 and whether hijackers were specifically referenced as an example of a group coming together, McDermott said, "It was mentioning 9/11 in the context of the team meeting. The goal of the team meeting was the importance of communication and being on the same page as a team."

 

[fred_1_15301]

Just saw the Sean McDermott story about him using 9/11 hijackers as an example to follow for coordination and teamwork. I'm gonna pass on him coming back to the Eagles... Ever. WTF is wrong with him?

Usually those stories aren't as bad as the headlines make them out to be.

But holy hell, the story and depth he went into about it is far worse than the headline states.

"McDermott told players in a speech to come together and used the terrorists on 9/11 as an example, asking players in the room questions about how the attacks were executed and referencing the hijackers getting on the same page. Multiple players who were with the team at the time confirmed the story to the ESPN

When asked why he mentioned 9/11 and whether hijackers were specifically referenced as an example of a group coming together, McDermott said, "It was mentioning 9/11 in the context of the team meeting. The goal of the team meeting was the importance of communication and being on the same page as a team."

I’m sorry but he can’t come up with a single excuse at all to walk that comment back. I can’t imagine using that as an analogy in any single scenario. I really can’t give him the benefit of the doubt here. Just a sick, ignorant comment.

 

[babydemon90]

My biggest fear is if people see him as a Russel Wilson we see where Russ is right now and we’re seeing hurts what he can or can’t do without his legs now. If that’s the Hurts I’m getting when his legs do go I’m making sure I got a guy ready or a plan in place before hand. When the time comes after this deal ends I probably am really hesitant to sign him long term again to the next deal. I’d rather trade a guy one year too early instead of one year too late though.

Something clearly isn’t right.

a) Russ isn't having that bad a season.
b) Russ is 35 - I mean yea, if your starter is 35 you probably want to have a plan in place, regardless? Doesn't have anything to do with legs... There's only 3 of the top 15 QB's in passing yards this year that are over 30

 

[Scooby1974]

Pass protection has been an underrated issue for Eagles

OLine is 28th in hurries & 24th in total pressures allowed

Hurts has allowed the most pressure among QBs, per PFF

Together they are 21st in sacks allowed. Only team in bottom 12 projected to make playoffs

How much does holding onto the ball play into the hurries and pressures for QBs?

 

[Terpman22]

Pass protection has been an underrated issue for Eagles

OLine is 28th in hurries & 24th in total pressures allowed

Hurts has allowed the most pressure among QBs, per PFF

Together they are 21st in sacks allowed. Only team in bottom 12 projected to make playoffs

How much does holding onto the ball play into the hurries and pressures for QBs?

Good Question. Probably a significant amount of blame on the QB for these kind of stats.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Pass protection has been an underrated issue for Eagles

OLine is 28th in hurries & 24th in total pressures allowed

Hurts has allowed the most pressure among QBs, per PFF

Together they are 21st in sacks allowed. Only team in bottom 12 projected to make playoffs

How much does holding onto the ball play into the hurries and pressures for QBs?

Good Question. Probably a significant amount of blame on the QB for these kind of stats.

I read that as if they were stand along stats and that he was last in holding onto the ball thus allowing the most pressures at QB

 

[Da Guru]

Why do players run their mouths? Coud come back to haunt.

San Francisco 49ers edge-rusher Nick Bosa said his team figured out how to shut down Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts.

"You see it on tape. Obviously, we put the blueprint out there. Hopefully, the Dallas Cowboys watch the tape," he told reporters. "We made Jalen stay in the pocket and escape outside instead of those B-gaps. And it paid off.

 

[modogg]

How the F are the 49ers are still talking about the Eagles and whining after they beat the Eagles down as bad as they did? All I have heard this week was how bad Big Dom is and how they better fine him as much as they fine Greenlaw.

Is there any other fan base that has this sense of entitlement and whines as much as the 49ers? I never realized it or heard it until last years playoffs and it is way over the top, even across all 4 major sports. Is it their media team?

Just seems so strange for a professional organization to literally whine and cry so much. It has to be their media team right asking all the players and coaches particular questions to get these sound bites? And I guess it isn’t the entire team, is it just like half the players in that organization?

ETA: is it just my algorithms since I live in Philly that this is the only news that comes to me through the social media?

It can’t be that now that I think about it because like with the Bills. You heard about how the fans were upset about the penalties called against them and how our fans sucked and that is why the Bills players pushed him, but that literally lasted like 12 hours , absolute most 24 hours and that was mostly from fans and not players or the team.

Maybe Seattle fans or any other NFC West fans know more about it then we do?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Is there any other fan base that has this sense of entitlement and whines as much as the 49ers?

Yes

 

[modogg]

Is there any other fan base that has this sense of entitlement and whines as much as the 49ers?

Yes

yeah Cowboys fans came to mind as well. But only some of their fans, not all of them

 

[Wingnut]

How the F are the 49ers are still talking about the Eagles and whining after they beat the Eagles...All I have heard this week was how bad Big Dom is and how they better fine him

I don't know a single Niner fan that's still talking about the game, and I dont know any that care about the big Dom situation at all.

 

[modogg]

How the F are the 49ers are still talking about the Eagles and whining after they beat the Eagles...All I have heard this week was how bad Big Dom is and how they better fine him

I don't know a single Niner fan that's still talking about the game, and I dont know any that care about the big Dom situation at all.

ahh ok, thanks. I think it may be algorithms on YouTube and Facebook then. the one this morning was a back-up LB quotes about something about how a non-player touching them or something.

Glad to hear though.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Is there any other fan base that has this sense of entitlement and whines as much as the 49ers?

Yes

yeah Cowboys fans came to mind as well. But only some of their fans, not all of them

Eh…I was thinking about the whiners that wear green, but ok

 

[The Noid]

Big Dom suspended by the league for the Eagles-Dallas game. Is allowed to travel with the team to Dallas but cannot be on the sideline.

So, Shaq Lawson gets fined an undisclosed amount by the Bills and no league discipline for escalating a situation by putting his hands on a fan, but Big Dom gets a league suspension for putting his hands on a player to deescalate a situation.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Big Dom suspended by the league for the Eagles-Dallas game. Is allowed to travel with the team to Dallas but cannot be on the sideline.

This is not really a big deal. 99% of his job is what he does behind the scenes. He's still doing that. He won't be able to do 1% of his job for 1 week. It's nowhere near the equivalent of a player not being able to be on the field for 1 week.

 

[Insein]

Big Dom suspended by the league for the Eagles-Dallas game. Is allowed to travel with the team to Dallas but cannot be on the sideline.

So, Shaq Lawson gets fined an undisclosed amount by the Bills and no league discipline for escalating a situation by putting his hands on a fan, but Big Dom gets a league suspension for putting his hands on a player to deescalate a situation.

It was expected. He was never getting fired and there's no way the league could fine him if Lurie didn't want to. So the gesture of not having him on the sidelines makes the league feel like they did something.

 

[babydemon90]

Why do players run their mouths? Coud come back to haunt.

San Francisco 49ers edge-rusher Nick Bosa said his team figured out how to shut down Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts.

"You see it on tape. Obviously, we put the blueprint out there. Hopefully, the Dallas Cowboys watch the tape," he told reporters. "We made Jalen stay in the pocket and escape outside instead of those B-gaps. And it paid off.

a) They're probably being interviewed and such, so yea they talk. This whole thing is entertainment, they aren't curing cancer or building nuclear plants here.
b) He's right. They didn't have some unstoppable defense - there were plays to be made. Jalen didnt make them because he wasnt seeing the field and making the right reads quickly - so until he does that better, then yea - it's a blueprint to stop him. They put the pressure on him to read the defense and make the right one-on-one throw. He's done a better job of it in the past, but he did a poor job in that game. Hopefully he and the coaches figure it out.

 

[unckeyherb]

Why do players run their mouths? Coud come back to haunt.

San Francisco 49ers edge-rusher Nick Bosa said his team figured out how to shut down Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts.

"You see it on tape. Obviously, we put the blueprint out there. Hopefully, the Dallas Cowboys watch the tape," he told reporters. "We made Jalen stay in the pocket and escape outside instead of those B-gaps. And it paid off.

a) They're probably being interviewed and such, so yea they talk. This whole thing is entertainment, they aren't curing cancer or building nuclear plants here.
b) He's right. They didn't have some unstoppable defense - there were plays to be made. Jalen didnt make them because he wasnt seeing the field and making the right reads quickly - so until he does that better, then yea - it's a blueprint to stop him. They put the pressure on him to read the defense and make the right one-on-one throw. He's done a better job of it in the past, but he did a poor job in that game. Hopefully he and the coaches figure it out.

I mean, it should also be noted that no other team has a D-line with Bosa, Young, Armstead and Hargrave. That is as much part of the blueprint as anything else.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Why do players run their mouths? Coud come back to haunt.

San Francisco 49ers edge-rusher Nick Bosa said his team figured out how to shut down Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts.

"You see it on tape. Obviously, we put the blueprint out there. Hopefully, the Dallas Cowboys watch the tape," he told reporters. "We made Jalen stay in the pocket and escape outside instead of those B-gaps. And it paid off.

a) They're probably being interviewed and such, so yea they talk. This whole thing is entertainment, they aren't curing cancer or building nuclear plants here.
b) He's right. They didn't have some unstoppable defense - there were plays to be made. Jalen didnt make them because he wasnt seeing the field and making the right reads quickly - so until he does that better, then yea - it's a blueprint to stop him. They put the pressure on him to read the defense and make the right one-on-one throw. He's done a better job of it in the past, but he did a poor job in that game. Hopefully he and the coaches figure it out.

I mean, it should also be noted that no other team has a D-line with Bosa, Young, Armstead and Hargrave. That is as much part of the blueprint as anything else.

Ha…yeah. When I heard Bosa I was thinking “can we borrow a few players?” lol

 

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There is a ton of eagles podcasts/shows, this particular episode is a good one. A few highlights:

1) 1st 10-15 minutes they discussed the Eagles need to “run more”. Had some great data that they actually ran the 7th most in the league when they were healthy. Dropped to 29tg when Jurgens and Goedert went out. They also go in good detail about the whole thing

2) next 20 minutes go over the Dallas-eagles game. Good information, and I feel better about the Eagles game on Sunday. Can still go either way I think, close to 50/50, but they discussed some good analysis