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2024-25 NBA Thread: Thunder starting to question having 140 pound guy playing in post in Finals (27 Viewers)

Seen some photos going around of a skinny Zion. Dude must have lost 50+ pounds looking almost frail. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.
 
Not sure if this is a good or bad thing
I would say good.

He has to chase Wemby and Chet (and Flagg very soon) all around the court over the next few years. He needs to be in shape for the immense effort it will require.

Yeah but that power is part of his game. Think it's better to be lean and strong as opposed to being Ozempic skinny. Granted, both are better than being fat: https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1824959961887113664
 
I'll be in San Antonio Nov 8-10, and Spurs are home for three in a row. :pickle:
They play 3 days in a row? How is that possible?
Three home games in a row, Chuck. You said days, not me. Iirc they play Thursday, Saturday and Monday.
The 8-10 covers a Thursday, Saturday and Monday?

Of course not. That doesn't change that you misread and thought I said they played three days in a row, they don't. Let it go my man. Just meant I hade more than one chance to catch a game.
 
I'll be in San Antonio Nov 8-10, and Spurs are home for three in a row. :pickle:
They play 3 days in a row? How is that possible?
Three home games in a row, Chuck. You said days, not me. Iirc they play Thursday, Saturday and Monday.
The 8-10 covers a Thursday, Saturday and Monday?

Of course not. That doesn't change that you misread and thought I said they played three days in a row, they don't. Let it go my man. Just meant I hade more than one chance to catch a game.
I think a clearer way to say it would be that the spurs will be at home on November 9…might as well say the spurs will have 10 home games in November…I’m a copy editor and also I’m very salty because I just got sniped on Jayden daniels in the ff draft
 
I'll be in San Antonio Nov 8-10, and Spurs are home for three in a row. :pickle:
They play 3 days in a row? How is that possible?
Three home games in a row, Chuck. You said days, not me. Iirc they play Thursday, Saturday and Monday.
The 8-10 covers a Thursday, Saturday and Monday?

Of course not. That doesn't change that you misread and thought I said they played three days in a row, they don't. Let it go my man. Just meant I hade more than one chance to catch a game.
I think a clearer way to say it would be that the spurs will be at home on November 9…might as well say the spurs will have 10 home games in November…I’m a copy editor and also I’m very salty because I just got sniped on Jayden daniels in the ff draft
lol, fair.

I wasn't the clearest either, but thought it made sense. Was just happy I had more than one chance to fit in a game.
 
I'll be in San Antonio Nov 8-10, and Spurs are home for three in a row. :pickle:
They play 3 days in a row? How is that possible?
Three home games in a row, Chuck. You said days, not me. Iirc they play Thursday, Saturday and Monday.
The 8-10 covers a Thursday, Saturday and Monday?

Of course not. That doesn't change that you misread and thought I said they played three days in a row, they don't. Let it go my man. Just meant I hade more than one chance to catch a game.
I think a clearer way to say it would be that the spurs will be at home on November 9…might as well say the spurs will have 10 home games in November…I’m a copy editor and also I’m very salty because I just got sniped on Jayden daniels in the ff draft
lol, fair.

I wasn't the clearest either, but thought it made sense. Was just happy I had more than one chance to fit in a game.
Fine, be happy that you can have nice things!
 
Who are your top 10 all-time favorite players?

Mine, in no particular order: Anthony Edwards, Kevin Garnett, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Kemp, Glen Rice, KD, Lebron, Ray Allen, and Ricky Rubio.
 
Who are your top 10 all-time favorite players?

Mine, in no particular order: Anthony Edwards, Kevin Garnett, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Kemp, Glen Rice, KD, Lebron, Ray Allen, and Ricky Rubio.

In no order as well

Wilt Chamberlain. Steph Curry, Baron Davis, Jokic, Giannis, Joe Dumars, Jrue Holiday, Tim Duncan, Boban, and Marc Gasol.
 
Who are your top 10 all-time favorite players?

Mine, in no particular order: Anthony Edwards, Kevin Garnett, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Kemp, Glen Rice, KD, Lebron, Ray Allen, and Ricky Rubio.

In no particular order and without putting too much thought into it:

David Thompson
Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Tim Duncan
Steve Nash
Tim Hardaway
Chris Webber
Charles Barkley
Hakeem Olajuwon
Nikola Jokic
 
Who are your top 10 all-time favorite players?

Mine, in no particular order: Anthony Edwards, Kevin Garnett, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Kemp, Glen Rice, KD, Lebron, Ray Allen, and Ricky Rubio.
Lebron and Penny clear everybody else for me. After that Kemp, Vince, MJ, Magic, Barkley, Dream, AI and Jokic in no order. Joker probably gonna be up there for me pretty high though. He’s so fun and unique.
 
My top 10:
1. Nikola Jokic
2. John Havlicek
3. Jrue Holiday
4. Michael Jordan
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan
8. Kawhi Leonard
9. Giannis Antetokounmpo
10. Magic Johnson
 
Yabusele to Sixers.
Saw that was pending earlier today.

Kid made himself some money with the Olympics.
It’s a one year minimum deal (2.1). He probably didn’t make himself that much unless he can parlay it into something bigger. I bet he was making about a million at Real Madrid (though it’s hard to find complete euroleague salary info online). Still, he can presumably go back and get basically the same deal in Europe if he flames out in the nba and creates a significantly higher ceiling for his earnings if he can play well.
$2.5M buyout as well. PHI is only allowed to cover $850k due to CBA, so he has to pay $1.65M out of pocket
 
Who are your top 10 all-time favorite players?

Mine, in no particular order: Anthony Edwards, Kevin Garnett, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shawn Kemp, Glen Rice, KD, Lebron, Ray Allen, and Ricky Rubio.
Lebron and Penny clear everybody else for me. After that Kemp, Vince, MJ, Magic, Barkley, Dream, AI and Jokic in no order. Joker probably gonna be up there for me pretty high though. He’s so fun and unique.

Great call on Vince Carter. I would have to knock someone off my list for him.
 
First, remember I wasn't born until the 90s.

1. Dirk
2. Luka
3. Derrick Rose
4. Steph
5. Giannis
6. Jordan (literally from just clips and last dance lol)
7. Jason Kidd
8. Tyson Chandler
9. Tim Duncan
10. Wemby may already be up there...
 
Yabusele to Sixers.
Saw that was pending earlier today.

Kid made himself some money with the Olympics.
It’s a one year minimum deal (2.1). He probably didn’t make himself that much unless he can parlay it into something bigger. I bet he was making about a million at Real Madrid (though it’s hard to find complete euroleague salary info online). Still, he can presumably go back and get basically the same deal in Europe if he flames out in the nba and creates a significantly higher ceiling for his earnings if he can play well.
$2.5M buyout as well. PHI is only allowed to cover $850k due to CBA, so he has to pay $1.65M out of pocket
Jake Fischer said that yabusele and Real Madrid were working together to figure out an equitable solution, so I have to think that he is paying less than the 1.65. It would be kind of nuts for him to pay that full amount, although maybe he wasn’t even making a million this year in salary, so it could be close to a wash. Coming to the nba does give him a chance to increase his future earnings, but he really didn’t make any money out of this Olympics run.
 
My Top 10 favorites (in no particular order)

Steph
Gus Williams
Xavier McDaniel
Joe Dumars
Bill Walton
Pete Maravich
Herm Gilliam
Downtown Freddie Brown
Dennis Johnson
Dennis Rodman (the Detroit years)
 
If we're going just personal subjective favorite, I have a few esoteric ones: Barkley, David Robinson, Drexler, KG, Kemp, Mitch Richmond, Vince Carter, Sacramento-era Jason Williams, Peja, Zach Randolph. Honorable mentions that I liked from other people's lists: Magic (I only caught the tail end of his prime but he was still influential), Hardaway, Giannis.
 
I was born in '85 so I missed a lot of big time players in the 80s and early 90s, but got big into collecting cards with my dad around probably '92, so that's when I started to pay any attention. There is No particular order:

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
Kevin Johnson
Jokic
Anthony Edwards
Jordan
LeBron
JR Smith
Iverson (Philly Era)
Shaq
And soon to be Wemby
 
Magic Johnson
Michael Cooper
Eddie Jones
Nick Van Exel
Pau Gasol
Glenn Rice
LeBron James
Lamar Odom
Robert Horry
James Worthy
Non-Laker edition:

Olajuwon
Kemp
Penny
Chris Webber
Drexler
Anthony Edwards
Pre-Celtics Garnett
Dominique Wilkins
Baron Davis
Jason Williams (not Jayson)
 
No order:

Hakim Warrick
Brandon Roy
Kevin Durant
Dirk Nowitzki
Dion Waiters
Tim Duncan
Nikola Jokic
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Kawhi Leonard
 
I actually kind of can't believe the lack of Dirk love on these lists :(
familiarity breeds contempt in some cases. Dirk and Webber are good examples for me. As a Kings fan I unsurprisingly love Webber, but his insistence on settling for free throw line jumpers always drove me half insane, and this was even before the analytics era, so he doesn't make my arbitrary list. Similarly, I watched Webber and the other early 2000s PFs just cook Dirk on defense all the time and I could never take him totally seriously. But watching Dirk beat Lebron in 2011 was one of my favorite basketball memories ever that didn't involve a team I cared about.

I'm a little surprised that Curry isn't on all these lists (probably a top 3 most fun player I've ever seen, I just don't like how he was on a few super teams and tortures the Kings) and that Anthony Edwards is (seems like recency bias).
 
Jason Williams was a great call. Forgot about him, but his highlights are amazing.
Williams played 8-9 years after leaving the Kings and I don't think I've ever seen one Grizzlies or Heat highlight of him doing something fun. I'm not totally convinced he wasn't kidnapped and replaced by an alien after being traded for Bibby.
 

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