2023-2024 NBA Salary Cap Draft - SECOND Annual Battle for the Wikkid Cup - Preseason Rankings are In! (1 Viewer)

[Eephus]

Their presence serves as a constant reminder of the team's inadequacy in securing players who could significantly impact the game.

AI schtick will soon make us all obsolete

 

[Yo Mama]

Their presence serves as a constant reminder of the team's inadequacy in securing players who could significantly impact the game.

AI schtick will soon make us all obsolete

We won’t be long for this world when the ChatGPTs start rolling dice

 

[Yo Mama]

So far, we have 7 different teams that have received a top ranking (out of 11 submissions), but we’ve only had 3 different teams receive a bottom ranking.

No team has been ranked the best by more than two people.

 

[Frostillicus]

Stupid

 

[Eephus]

Page 2 bump.

My rankings are in.

 

[FatMax]

I'll work on my rankings. Been oddly busy this week, but I should be able to find time in the next couple of days

 

[Yo Mama]

Last Call - Get me rankings by end of day tomorrow.

 

[Corporation]

Now that the games have evened out a little my team is rising in the Fantrax standing. Injury to Claxton and Kristaps going to hurt the bigs numbers though.

 

[Eephus]

Fantrax standings

Eephus	126
Corporation	118
Dunfee555	114.5
Chemical X	106.5
Jayrod	101.5
The Moops	95.5
FatMax	94
Pik95	92.5
Thecatch	90
Yo Mama	87
Frostillicus	87
Scoobus	86
Son of Pik	82.5
Trader Jake	74.5
Caustic	72
Son of Yo Mama	69
Desert Power	61.5
NYSFL2	47
Kev4029	45
Instinctive	30

 

[the moops]

Somehow @Eephus has gotten 34 games played out of Anthony Davis and Chris Paul out of a possible 35

 

[Jayrod]

I was comfortably in 2nd for a while until some injuries started hurting my games played and minutes played numbers.

Herro has been out for 1/2 the season now after he had a great start. Maxey has been my MVP.

ETA - Ugh. I just looked and out of 7 possible guys going tonight, 3 have been ruled out (Butler, Herro & Nick Richards) and 1 is a GTD (Lively).

 

[Eephus]

Somehow @Eephus has gotten 34 games played out of Anthony Davis and Chris Paul out of a possible 35

I spent the $172K in leftover cap space on sports medicine

 

[Yo Mama]

Time for some rankings! 13 sets of rankings were used in this very serious and extremely scientific way to determine which team is best.

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier #6


#18 - @Instinctive
Average Rank: 3.38
High Rank: 12, Low Rank: 1
Key Players: Paolo Banchero, O.G. Anunoby, Myles Turner, Luguentz Dort, Dorian Finney-Smith, Ben Simmons, Moses Moody, C.J. McCollum


#19 - @PIK95
Average Rank: 3.23
High Rank: 10, Low Rank: 1
Key Players: LaMelo Ball, Domantas Sabonis, Trae Young, Bruce Brown, Jalen Johnson, Robert Williams, Gary Payton II, Grayson Allen


#20 - @Chemical X
Average Rank: 3.08
High Rank: 8, Low Rank: 1
Key Players: Jalen Duren, Josh Giddey, Pascal Siakam, Kyle Kuzma, Ausar Thompson, D'Angelo Russell, Kevin Huerter, Jordan Poole

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier # 5


#15 - @thecatch
Average Rank: 7.83
High Rank: 15, Low Rank: 3
Key Players: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Chet Holmgren, Keegan Murray, Julius Randle, Bennedict Mathurin, Malik Monk, Naz Reid, De'Andre Hunter


#16 - Son of @PIK95
Average Rank: 7.23
High Rank: 18, Low Rank: 2
Key Players: Tyrese Haliburton, Karl-Anthony Towns, Brandon Ingram, Zion Williamson, Kyrie Irving, Kelly Oubre, Andrew Nembhard, Davion Mitchell


#17 - @scoobus
Average Rank: 6.08
High Rank: 10, Low Rank: 3
Key Players: Cade Cunningham, Walker Kessler, Alperen Sengun, Jerami Grant, Andrew Wiggins, Fred VanVleet, Buddy Hield, Dillon Brooks

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier #4


#12 - @Desert_Power
Average Rank: 9.62
High Rank: 13, Low Rank: 3
Key Players: Victor Wembanyama, Damian Lillard, Derrick White, Aaron Gordon, Corey Kispert, Ivica Zubac, Aaron Wiggins, Khris Middleton


#13 - @Corporation
Average Rank: 9.08
High Rank: 16, Low Rank: 2
Key Players: Desmond Bane, Dejounte Murray, Kristaps Porzingis, Nicolas Claxton, Tyus Jones, Onyeka Okongwu, James Harden, Daniel Gafford


#14 - @dunfee555
Average Rank: 9.00
High Rank: 14, Low Rank: 2
Key Players: Jaren Jackson Jr., Jalen Williams, LeBron James, Michael Porter Jr., Malik Beasley, Isaiah Stewart, Markelle Fultz, Tre Jones

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier #3


#9 - @FatMax
Average Rank: 11.15
High Rank: 16, Low Rank: 6
Key Players: Lauri Markkanen, Scottie Barnes, Jalen Brunson, Jarrett Allen, DeMar DeRozan, De'Anthony Melton, Mitchell Robinson, Donte DiVincenzo


#10 - @nysfl2
Average Rank: 10.83
High Rank: 15, Low Rank: 4
Key Players: Joel Embiid, Donovan Mitchell, Austin Reaves, Cam Thomas, Josh Green, Cole Anthony, Cam Johnson, Amen Thompson


#11 - @Jayrod
Average Rank: 10.58
High Rank: 18, Low Rank: 5
Key Players: Tyrese Maxey, Franz Wagner, Jimmy Butler, Malcolm Brogdon, Bobby Portis, Tyler Herro, Jusuf Nurkic, Caris LeVert

 

[Yo Mama]

Gonna take a dramatic pause before getting to the top 8

 

[Eephus]

I was higher on Jayrod & nysfl2 than the consensus was.

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier #2


#5 - @trader jake
Average Rank: 12.17
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 6
Key Players: Evan Mobley, Devin Vassell, Kawhi Leonard, Brook Lopez, Ja Morant, Jose Alvarado, Al Horford, Bogdan Bogdanovic


#6 - @Kev4029
Average Rank: 12.08
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 5
Key Players: Luka Doncic, Stephen Curry, Trey Murphy, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Wendell Carter Jr., Harrison Barnes, Jaden Ivey, Jarred Vanderbilt


#7 - @Frostillicus
Average Rank: 11.83
High Rank: 16, Low Rank: 7
Key Players: Devin Booker, Bam Adebayo, Jrue Holiday, Shaedon Sharpe, Kyle Anderson, Josh Okogie, Jeremy Sochan, Drew Eubanks


#8 - Son of @Yo Mama
Average Rank: 11.5
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 1
Key Players: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Darius Garland, Marcus Smart, Herb Jones, Nikola Vucevic, Jalen Green, Jalen Suggs, Josh Hart

My son’s team is the variance champ, receiving both a top and a bottom ranking. He’d be at the top of this group if not for one curmudgeonly ranker who used dice to give him a bottom ranking (next lowest was a 7).

 

[Yo Mama]

Big jump in average rankings into the final tier

 

[Yo Mama]

Tier #1


#1 - @the moops
Average Rank: 16.46
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 12
Key Players: Jayson Tatum, Jaden McDaniels, Paul George, Alex Caruso, Dennis Schroder, Kevon Looney, PJ Washington, Clint Capela


#2 - @Yo Mama
Average Rank: 15.75
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 5
Key Players: Mikal Bridges, Kevin Durant, De'Aaron Fox, Mark Williams, Draymond Green, Eric Gordon, Terance Mann, Jonas Valanciunas


#3 - @Eephus
Average Rank: 15.25
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 9
Key Players: Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, Jaylen Brown, Jabari Smith Jr, Russell Westbrook, Coby White, Chris Paul, Obi Toppin


#4 - @caustic
Average Rank: 15.17
High Rank: 19, Low Rank: 9
Key Players: Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, Immanuel Quickley, Grant Williams, Max Strus, Keldon Johnson, Jonathan Kuminga, Royce O'Neale

One bottom 5 ranking (most others were toward the top) tanked my average and dropped me into 2nd place. I guess I should have used the Olympic system of dropping the top and bottom scores.

 

[Yo Mama]

Thanks for everyone who helped with the rankings!

This has been another fun draft. We’ll circle back at the end of the season to do another set of rankings.

 

[Eephus]

My son’s team is the variance champ, receiving both a top and a bottom ranking. He’d be at the top of this group if not for one curmudgeonly ranker who used dice to give him a bottom ranking (next lowest was a 7).

I was probably being too negative with the young lad. I had a tough time distinguishing between the bottom half teams but someone had to fall last.

Poor spacing would negate Giannis' offense a bit but they can get after you on defense with Vooch off the floor.

 

[FatMax]

I'm just happy I didn't embarrass myself. I'll take middling.

 

[Jayrod]

I quit.

 

[Corporation]

Thanks for running this!

I thought for sure my team would be in the top 10. Not too far off but fairly disappointed. Hoping the season long league goes in my favor.

 

[trader jake]

One potentially entertaining thing we could do is a matchup breakdown. Drafters match their team vs the squad that was ranked just above them.

FBGs explain why a 7 game playoff series would obviously be won by their team and why.

 

[Yo Mama]

One potentially entertaining thing we could do is a matchup breakdown. Drafters match their team vs the squad that was ranked just above them.

FBGs explain why a 7 game playoff series would obviously be won by their team and why.

Last year I toyed with the idea of a head to head knockout tourney with poll voting and the teams doing writeups for matchups, etc. But the I remembered how lazy I am.


We could try to do something similar if there’s enough interest.

 

[Corporation]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

 

[the moops]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

What would your starting lineup even be?

Harden, Dejounte, Bane, Avdija, and Porzingis?

Your team still stinks regardless of what stupid fantrax is telling us

 

[Corporation]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

What would your starting lineup even be?

Harden, Dejounte, Bane, Avdija, and Porzingis?

Your team still stinks regardless of what stupid fantrax is telling us

Yeah I orginally had Claxton at C but he got hurt. Would probably play Porzingis at the 4 and Okongwu at 5, with Gafford and Avdija rotating in.

I still think this is a balanced real life team that would do pretty well, with a lot of position flexibility.

 

[the moops]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

What would your starting lineup even be?

Harden, Dejounte, Bane, Avdija, and Porzingis?

Your team still stinks regardless of what stupid fantrax is telling us

Yeah I orginally had Claxton at C but he got hurt. Would probably play Porzingis at the 4 and Okongwu at 5, with Gafford and Avdija rotating in.

I still think this is a balanced real life team that would do pretty well, with a lot of position flexibility.

Porzingis at the 4 sounds like not a good move. You really are lacking a defensive wing to match up against the Luka/Kawhi/Lebron/Tatum's of the world

 

[thecatch]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

I'm up to #3. I was critiqued by some know-nothing rabble rousers about relying on younger players but many of them have panned out so far.

 

[Desert_Power]

Happy New Year!

Also someone's second worst team is faring a little better than that:

Fantrax

Fantrax, The Home of Fantasy Sports

www.fantrax.com

Good bump. Some of my bench guys are getting good minutes helping out my depth.

 

[Instinctive]

My team sucked, sucks, and will suck. Rough draft. High risk high reward...best team last year, worst team this year. Maybe highest risk highest reward is a better term lol.

 

[Eephus]

Still sitting pretty in 2nd on Fantrax after the 3rd in the polls. We've been fortunate so far with injuries and have gotten mini-breakouts from Coby White and Jabari Smith.

 

[PIK95]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

 

[Kev4029]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

 

[the moops]

Would love to see Bruce Brown got to OKC. Super easy to make it work. Bertans contract + a first gets you there

 

[PIK95]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

 

[the moops]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

 

[PIK95]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

That's crazy talk. Especially if you watch the team on the reg imo.

 

[the moops]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

That's crazy talk. Especially if you watch the team on the reg imo.

I find fans who watch one team regularly to be the worst evaluators (I say this as a terrible Celtic evaluator)

 

[PIK95]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

That's crazy talk. Especially if you watch the team on the reg imo.

I find fans who watch one team regularly to be the worst evaluators (I say this as a terrible Celtic evaluator)

I am a Celtics fan and former season ticket holder. I have been watching Denver, Boston, and Sacramento on the reg for years now. I watch other random games, just no Lakers. I haven't watched much Celtics this year as Tatum pizzes me off. I haven't missed a Nugs game in at least three years now. They are fun to watch, especially as a coach.

 

[PIK95]

@the moops KCP on fire tonight of course, lol. I'm a bit behind on the DVR. Im almost to the end of the 3rd.

 

[Kev4029]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

Yeah, it's not even close. KCP is a top flight defender at the two and a knockdown shooter - both of things which they have to get from the 2-guard spot.

I love Brown and thought he was a great fit as a 6th man, but honestly I think the biggest things he brought to the team were vibes and effort, which are great tangibles, but the rest of his skill set is more okay then great. I think his playoffs last year are overshadowing the rest of his resume the shows he is best suited as a 6th or 7th man. KCP has a resume and play that supports him being the 5th starter on a championship team.

 

[PIK95]

4.12 Bruce Brown SF STUD $22

Denver is REALLY gonna miss this dude as they attempt to repeat. Super explosive and clutch. Big fan.

Read a couple of things that Denver is trying to figure out a way to get BB back from Toronto now. That would be epic, they really miss him, especially his cutting and finishing off Jokic feeds. :black dot:

There is zero chance. They would have to include one of their starters to make salaries work or make it a 7 for 1 trade which would be impossible unless Toronto cut half of their roster prior to the trade to make it work.

KCP would work, and that was mentioned in a few places. With Porter, RJ, and Murray KCP has become less important imo. They now have a much bigger need for an aggressive slasher like BB. But they will probably try and get creative if anything. He was a huge reason they won it last year, and you can see the difference without him. Coach looked like he was gonna lovingly assault him during the ring ceremony last week. So much love for BB on that squad.

Would much prefer KCP to Bruce Brown

Yeah, it's not even close. KCP is a top flight defender at the two and a knockdown shooter - both of things which they have to get from the 2-guard spot.

I love Brown and thought he was a great fit as a 6th man, but honestly I think the biggest things he brought to the team were vibes and effort, which are great tangibles, but the rest of his skill set is more okay then great. I think his playoffs last year are overshadowing the rest of his resume the shows he is best suited as a 6th or 7th man. KCP has a resume and play that supports him being the 5th starter on a championship team.

I know it was a long time ago but BB was their third best player throughout the playoffs. He was ALWAYS in during crunch time, KCP and Porter were not at times. Christian Braun has really fallen off this year, so the need for a slasher/wing defender like BB is even bigger. KCP gets some great steals, but his defensive dominance is overstated imo. They have many guys that can shoot, but nobody slashing other than Gordon. Reggie and KCP are pretty much bringing the same thing. Watson is very inconsistent, but at least plays some aggressive D at times. This team won't win again without picking up a slasher/finisher, even if it's not BB. And they also miss Jeff Green, but it is what it is.

 

[the moops]

My team can shoot. When Jayson Tatum is the worst three point shooter of all the guards/wings, well...

isaiah joe 43%
nikola jovic 42%
alex caruso 42%
paul george 42%
alec burks 40%
kris dunn 39%
jordan hawkins 39%
jaden mcdaniels 38%
dennis schroder 36%
jayson tatum 36%

 

[Corporation]

I still really like this team. I was worried about Harden but he has played nicely (thus far) in LA.