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Yo Mama
Footballguy
Still happy for him
Major
Footballguy
Doesn't seem HOF worthy to me either. Never made an All Star team and always seemed like the 5 or 6th best player on that squad. Nice 3 and D guy but that's about it.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Always a huge defensive annoyance to Bird and the Celtics = HOF in my book. Plus those super-long socks.
Also, getting a DPOY and 8x all-defense awards as a sixth man is pretty crazy.
I’d call him the 3rd (pre-worthy) or 4th most impactful player on the 80s Lakers.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
With the exception of his rookie year (3 game sample size,) PER was below 15 every season
Major
Footballguy
Always a huge defensive annoyance to Bird and the Celtics = HOF in my book. Plus those super-long socks.
Also, getting a DPOY and 8x all-defense awards as a sixth man is pretty crazy.
I’d call him the 3rd (pre-worthy) or 4th most impactful player on the 80s Lakers.
The socks were pretty cool
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Spartans Rule
Footballguy
The voting for some of these things was pretty suspect. The year Cooper won DPOY, Olajuwon averaged 3.4 blocks, 1.9 steals and 11.4 rebounds per game and the Rockets were 3rd in the league in defensive rating and points allowed. He didn’t get any DPOY votes, but T.R. Dunn, Bill Hanzlik and Doc Rivers did.
Cooper kinda feels like Harold Baines in the baseball hall. Neither guy should be in, but they were both good players and likeable people so good for them.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah if I took off my Lakers purple and gold colored glasses, I don’t think he should be in the HOF. I’m mainly happy he made it since he was one of my favorite players.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Just let yo mama be happy, you buzzkills!
Jayrod
Footballguy
Hall of Pretty Good player on a great team.Always a huge defensive annoyance to Bird and the Celtics = HOF in my book. Plus those super-long socks.
Also, getting a DPOY and 8x all-defense awards as a sixth man is pretty crazy.
I’d call him the 3rd (pre-worthy) or 4th most impactful player on the 80s Lakers.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
THANK YOU!
trader jake
Footballguy
Agreed. Coop making the Hall is way less egregious than Los Angeles claiming titles won in Minneapolis. Congrats Yo Mama!
Jayrod
Footballguy
I don't know about destroy.
I think their bench is improved and their offense a bit, but they've taken a step back defensively and both Durant and Beal are older and tend to miss a lot of games.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Lonzo Ball will take the floor on Wednesday--his first game since January of 2022.
the moops
Footballguy
How did they take a step back defensively?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Jalen mcdaniels dumped to the spurs who are waiving him. Should have been a valuable player but never could figure it out and so many teams have soured on him
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Paul George hyperextended his left knee tonight. Because of course he did
Jayrod
Footballguy
They are starting Tyus Jones instead of Grayson Allen who is smaller and a worse defender. That's next to the defensively anemic Bradley Beal.
the moops
Footballguy
Both Tyus and Allen are terrible defenders. I guess maybe they got a little worse but if anything it is like a teeny baby step
jvdesigns2002
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Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks. It looks pretty bad.
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Leeroy Jenkins
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Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks. It looks pretty bad.
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JFC. Why play these guys in pre-season.
This is the time of year we want to see guys like Bronny shoot 9% from the field . . . .
the moops
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These guys play basketball. It's what they do. It's what they want to do. You can't get into game shape without playing games. Also there are like 500 new players on the Sixers and both PG and Embiid won't be playing back to backs so they need time to get used to their new teammatesHopefully it’s not as bad as it looks. It looks pretty bad.
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JFC. Why play these guys in pre-season.
This is the time of year we want to see guys like Bronny shoot 9% from the field . . . .
Major
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Is he up to 9%?Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks. It looks pretty bad.
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JFC. Why play these guys in pre-season.
This is the time of year we want to see guys like Bronny shoot 9% from the field . . . .
scoobus
Footballguy
You know what website has salaries on it…The lack of a salary cap draft has left a hole in my pre-season this year.
I'm going to do as bad as Charles on "Who He Play For" on opening night.
Eephus
Footballguy
You know what website has salaries on it…The lack of a salary cap draft has left a hole in my pre-season this year.
I'm going to do as bad as Charles on "Who He Play For" on opening night.
The fatigue death spiral was the best part of the WIS hoops "sim"
Yo Mama
Footballguy
FYI - I’m noodling out a way to incorporate both an auction element and dice into the draft I’m proposing.The lack of a salary cap draft has left a hole in my pre-season this year.
I'm going to do as bad as Charles on "Who He Play For" on opening night.
nirad3
Footballguy
You guys/gals have any good fantasy basketball resources? I tend to just Google "fantasy basketball rankings" and/or use Yahoo!'s draft rankings while in my draft, but I could use some deeper dives. I always start the season off well but at some point start to go over my trajectory for max games played and then end up losing my footing towards the end of the season. So a tool whereby I can figure out if a guy should be started/sat for a particular matchup would be awesome.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I pretty much just know everything in my head, so I can't help you.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Heck of a game. Needs to work on his interview skills.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah, I think it was JJ in his post game presser who said that was probably the most he’s ever seen Knecht talk.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
We can't all be pretty.Hollinger is predicting that a 50 loss team will make the play in tournament in the East
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
If that's true, the Pistons might have a chance!Hollinger is predicting that a 50 loss team will make the play in tournament in the East
Zow
Footballguy
Need that laughing emoji back.Hopefully it’s not as bad as it looks. It looks pretty bad.
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JFC. Why play these guys in pre-season.
This is the time of year we want to see guys like Bronny shoot 9% from the field . . . .
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Seems plausible. Charlotte, Detroit, Washington and Brooklyn will definitely have 50 losses. Toronto has a decent starting 5, but very little depth, so they could easily get derailed with some bad injury luck. And I think Chicago can very easily have 50 losses with their terrible defense unless somehow giddey and lavine can juice the offense to get to like 35 wins. So 6 legit contenders for 50 losses.Hollinger is predicting that a 50 loss team will make the play in tournament in the East
Capella
Footballguy
Yea Simmons had his over under pod this week and those 3 bozos made all their picks and then at the end realized one of the multiple 50 loss teams that they predicted had to make it as the 10 seed. Entertaining as always.Seems plausible. Charlotte, Detroit, Washington and Brooklyn will definitely have 50 losses. Toronto has a decent starting 5, but very little depth, so they could easily get derailed with some bad injury luck. And I think Chicago can very easily have 50 losses with their terrible defense unless somehow giddey and lavine can juice the offense to get to like 35 wins. So 6 legit contenders for 50 losses.Hollinger is predicting that a 50 loss team will make the play in tournament in the East
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Dalton Knecht was fun as heck to watch play last night. Guy was unconscious in the 4th & OT. Such a quick release. Already hoping he's in the 3 point competition.
His ascent the last 3 years has been pretty incredible.
His ascent the last 3 years has been pretty incredible.
the moops
Footballguy
I am not sure if 50 losses for the 10 seed has happened (it probably has) but looking back over the past decade or so it has been close.
2015-2016 Sacramento and Denver tied for the 10th seed with 49 losses
2016-2017 New Orleans had 48 losses
2021-2022 San Antonio had 48 losses
2015-2016 Sacramento and Denver tied for the 10th seed with 49 losses
2016-2017 New Orleans had 48 losses
2021-2022 San Antonio had 48 losses
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Bronny played allright in what was otherwise a horrific game for the Lakers (they sat 8 of their first 9 rotation guys, so to be expected).
I hope they find a way to retain Ollivari. He's shown more this preseason than I've seen in a year plus from guys like Hood-Schifino and Max Lewis. Pelinka has really screwed up this roster giving out guaranteed deals to people who aren't going to amount to anything in the NBA.
I hope they find a way to retain Ollivari. He's shown more this preseason than I've seen in a year plus from guys like Hood-Schifino and Max Lewis. Pelinka has really screwed up this roster giving out guaranteed deals to people who aren't going to amount to anything in the NBA.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Kai Jones earns a two-way with the Clippers
Kev4029
Footballguy
They could just cut those ****ty players and sign replacements but in addition to having one of the worst GMs, they also have one of the worst owners.
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