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2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (3 Viewers)
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fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Can we stop with this. Zero reason or chance that Indiana wasn't making it. And for SMU...we've been having this argument for weeks. No one is coming off of their opinions, so quit the incessant whining.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah he's just trolling.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Indiana losing by 10 is a misleading result given how badly they were stomped but it probably won't be in the top 5 blow out games in this tournament.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
There's a great game going on at the Fargodome on ABC. NDSU v SDSU 14-14 at HT.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yes, this needs to be fixed.
I've seen some good discussion on both sides with opinions.
It may be just me, but I think discussion usually works best when the people don't drop down to accuse anyone with a different opinion as whining.
Penguin
Footballguy
Clemson has zero chance vs. Texas
Capella
Footballguy
Most CFP games over the year have been terribly boring. We don’t need 12 teams and we don’t need three loss teams. If Bama wanted in don’t lose to two crap teams.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
HIstorically games in this round at the FCS level are uncompetitive too.
He's just using the game results of SMU and Indiana to trash the playoffs while claiming Alabama's "ranked" wins. But he won't acknowledge Alabama got curb stomped by Oklahoma as bad as SMU and Indiana are by top 5 teams. In other words, he's not really discussing anything.
I've seen some good discussion on both sides with opinions.
It may be just me, but I think discussion usually works best when the people don't drop down to accuse anyone with a different opinion as whining.
It's usually ridiculous to use playoff results to judge who should or shouldn't have been in the playoffs. Eddie was correct, these debates have been made for 2 weeks. Who is changing their mind on Indiana or SMU vs the $EC at this point?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Okay?
Sparky Polastri
Footballguy
Some of this is pretty sad. I haven't spent much time in the sports threads (thanks Dores for lighting that spark) here so this is an honest question. Do you also complain about the 1vs16 match ups in the bball tourney?
need2know
Footballguy
I've seen some good discussion on both sides with opinions.
It may be just me, but I think discussion usually works best when the people don't drop down to accuse anyone with a different opinion as whining.
Big difference in deserving and belonging. These teams def dont belong (proof is these last 2 crappy games) and its questionable that they deserve to be here.
Its only going to get worse. Clemson is going to lose by 3 tds to texas. Book it.
Hell miami was the best acc team and they didnt get in. They are better than smu and clemson. Stupid they didnt play each other.
I just want the 12 best teams that you know can compete for the title. Didnt get it this year for sure.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Why was Miami the best ACC team? They didn't even make the ACC Championship Game. They had a couple of wins that only happened because of some friendly replay booth stuff.
I've seen some good discussion on both sides with opinions.
It may be just me, but I think discussion usually works best when the people don't drop down to accuse anyone with a different opinion as whining.
Big difference in deserving and belonging. These teams def dont belong (proof is these last 2 crappy games) and its questionable that they deserve to be here.
Its only going to get worse. Clemson is going to lose by 3 tds to texas. Book it.
Hell miami was the best acc team and they didnt get in. They are better than smu and clemson. Stupid they didnt play each other.
I just want the 12 best teams that you know can compete for the title. Didnt get it this year for sure.
Who are the 12 best teams in your opinion?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Instead of choosing what they thought were the 12 best teams, the committee chose solely based off of record. As if all conferences are created equal, but they're not. Letting in so many teams without any quality wins is a mistake.
MAC_32
Footballguy
The Alabama tears are extra salty this weekend
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Who are the 12 best teams in your opinion?
Where teams should be ranked/seeded is a popular topic here. Has been for 25 years. Not sure what is sad about that. Discussing this type of thing is pretty much what we do here.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Who do you think are the 12 best teams? I can't get anyone to answer this question.
GregR
Footballguy
Last year they chose what they thought were the best teams, and got rightfully eviscerated for leaving out an undefeated team that earned a playoff spot. All because of one player's injury.
No thanks.
Jayded
Footballguy
I think I see the fallacy in what they did and are likely to do. If people thought the committee was only going to pick the 12 best teams and not have any wiggle room for deserving teams, I think that is going to continue to disappoint you until there is a super conference and the season is also a bigger part of the tournament with leveled schedules and whatnot.
The small schools have a seat in this format and will balk at any sort of adjustment to that unless it goes to a super conference and they're left out. That means there will always be at least one game with likely lopsidedness. As long as the playoffs continue to treat the ACC and Big XII at a similar level of deservingness of the SEC and Big Ten, there will be more teams finding their ways in.
It'd be far easier to look at this whole thing currently as the top 10 best teams and a few asterisks either because of deserving and/or forced conference tie in conditions. It's far more enjoyable to look at the bottom of the bracket the same way you do as a Cinderella team come March Madness. One of them will make a run or two eventually (ala Boise beating OU in the Fiesta back when), but assuming March Madness is only the 64 best would be the same logical fallacy. Look at the teams just outside the same as you do with those fringe Madness teams. Twelve teams was already a lot when most years many would say generally 2-5 teams should get a shot and this just added a few more at larges, small schools, and some conference champs. It's still likely to come down to those same 2-5 teams in the end each time, with slim chances someone unexpected goes on a run.
The small schools have a seat in this format and will balk at any sort of adjustment to that unless it goes to a super conference and they're left out. That means there will always be at least one game with likely lopsidedness. As long as the playoffs continue to treat the ACC and Big XII at a similar level of deservingness of the SEC and Big Ten, there will be more teams finding their ways in.
It'd be far easier to look at this whole thing currently as the top 10 best teams and a few asterisks either because of deserving and/or forced conference tie in conditions. It's far more enjoyable to look at the bottom of the bracket the same way you do as a Cinderella team come March Madness. One of them will make a run or two eventually (ala Boise beating OU in the Fiesta back when), but assuming March Madness is only the 64 best would be the same logical fallacy. Look at the teams just outside the same as you do with those fringe Madness teams. Twelve teams was already a lot when most years many would say generally 2-5 teams should get a shot and this just added a few more at larges, small schools, and some conference champs. It's still likely to come down to those same 2-5 teams in the end each time, with slim chances someone unexpected goes on a run.
Penguin
Footballguy
I'm not sure the debate is who should be in the top 12 as much as if you you want Boise St. and Arizona St. in due ti their conference championships they shouldn't automatically be seeded #3 & #4. They are way closer to Clemson than they are to Georgia
identikit
Footballguy
Repeating your position over and over and whenever something happens in the current game that you think validates your take is tiresome
Sparky Polastri
Footballguy
The word discussion is doing some really heavy lifting here. Field was set a couple weeks ago. Time to move on
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
That tourney should only have 32 in it. And no, the once-in-like 50 year 15-seed Peacocks don't change that. Plus they only made it to the quarters anyway. 9, 10, 11, 12 seeds aren't winning that thing.
The added play-in stuff is even more ridiculous; squeezing out every last penny. The college athletics money machine has me losing more interest every year.
Could partly be age but a lot of better-spent time will be coming my way.
Oh, and how many NFL games this week, 5 in 7 days? 17 games a season now, added playoffs, it never stops. Let's do golf too. What a disaster.
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SFBayDuck
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Despite the bitching and moaning, this format is wayyyy better than 2 or even 4 teams.
GregR
Footballguy
It isn't for you, me, Jayded and others. I agree the biggest issue is the seeding/conf champ byes.
But that's not what some others are complaining about. They are complaining about a game result being lopsided. The bulk of game results with a 4 team playoff were lopsided. Of course there will be some of those with a 12 team field too.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
This guy gets it. Enjoy more football, folks.
The word discussion is doing some really heavy lifting here.
Not really. It's sports. Some of this gets discussed for a long time. And posters will decide what they discuss. But thanks.
General Malaise
Footballguy
For sure. Definitely better to have more teams in.
swabs
Footballguy
SD got completely screwed by that td call. Sure it touched his hand in bounds but he had to bring it into his body to control it and was like 3 steps out by then.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
End of season games like Oregon vs. Penn St and Texas vs. Georgia that would normally be gigantic games instead became essentially meaningless so we could watch some team that everyone knew was garbage get blown out by 5 touchdowns. Yay.
GregR
Footballguy
First round byes are essentially meaningless?
Yeah I can't agree with that take in the slightest. If anything there were more games that were meaningful than there would have been otherwise.
Alabama would have been out of it before their final game already. Instead they were playing for a spot against Oklahoma.
The other conference championships wouldn't have been meaningful, but instead were.
Instead of maybe 2-3 teams vying for the 4th spot, you had what, like 8-9 teams with meaningful final games?
