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Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Educate me please.
good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
I'm pretty sure you started a thread a couple years ago about finding a new team to root for because you were done with the Lions.BobbyLayne said:This post seems a bit too rational and displays am optimism not commonly found in true die hard long time Lions fans.
Are you
1) very young,
2) a recent immigrant from another land,
3) trolling because it was a slow day at reddit?
TIA
correctI'm pretty sure you started a thread a couple years ago about finding a new team to root for because you were done with the Lions.BobbyLayne said:This post seems a bit too rational and displays am optimism not commonly found in true die hard long time Lions fans.
Are you
1) very young,
2) a recent immigrant from another land,
3) trolling because it was a slow day at reddit?
TIA
I don't know if I would say the defense laid an egg against Carolina. They shut down the run game. Newton did sustain three long drives against them but they got five sacks.Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
Darius Slay can actually play.I don't know if I would say the defense laid an egg against Carolina. They shut down the run game. Newton did sustain three long drives against them but they got five sacks.Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
Philosophically this is a completely different defensive scheme. The only real common point is they're still in a 4-3.
With the old regime guys who were a DE or a S every role and the emphasis was on their role within the scheme. The new regime has installed a much more aggressive defense that emphasizes individuals making plays. They may not have the athletes to be a top level defense at the moment, but the defensive front four covers a multitude of sins.
- 4-3 under (similar formation to Seattle) replaced the Wide 9
- designated DEs instead of interchangeable
- FS/SS designations versus two deep safeties under Schwartz/Cunningham
- more blitzing (the Lions had the fewest blitzes of any team last year)
- personnel based instead of scheme based
- roles are defined according to the actual player's strengths
- much greater emphasis on communication and adjustment versus staying within in the scheme
It's like night and day - he was lost last year, very solid this year.Darius Slay can actually play.I don't know if I would say the defense laid an egg against Carolina. They shut down the run game. Newton did sustain three long drives against them but they got five sacks.Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
Philosophically this is a completely different defensive scheme. The only real common point is they're still in a 4-3.
With the old regime guys who were a DE or a S every role and the emphasis was on their role within the scheme. The new regime has installed a much more aggressive defense that emphasizes individuals making plays. They may not have the athletes to be a top level defense at the moment, but the defensive front four covers a multitude of sins.
- 4-3 under (similar formation to Seattle) replaced the Wide 9
- designated DEs instead of interchangeable
- FS/SS designations versus two deep safeties under Schwartz/Cunningham
- more blitzing (the Lions had the fewest blitzes of any team last year)
- personnel based instead of scheme based
- roles are defined according to the actual player's strengths
- much greater emphasis on communication and adjustment versus staying within in the scheme
SUH/Fairley playing for contracts
DeAndre Levy is a stud
Makes me wonder if Jim Schwartz coached at all? or did he just rah rah guysIt's like night and day - he was lost last year, very solid this year.Darius Slay can actually play.I don't know if I would say the defense laid an egg against Carolina. They shut down the run game. Newton did sustain three long drives against them but they got five sacks.Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
Philosophically this is a completely different defensive scheme. The only real common point is they're still in a 4-3.
With the old regime guys who were a DE or a S every role and the emphasis was on their role within the scheme. The new regime has installed a much more aggressive defense that emphasizes individuals making plays. They may not have the athletes to be a top level defense at the moment, but the defensive front four covers a multitude of sins.
- 4-3 under (similar formation to Seattle) replaced the Wide 9
- designated DEs instead of interchangeable
- FS/SS designations versus two deep safeties under Schwartz/Cunningham
- more blitzing (the Lions had the fewest blitzes of any team last year)
- personnel based instead of scheme based
- roles are defined according to the actual player's strengths
- much greater emphasis on communication and adjustment versus staying within in the scheme
SUH/Fairley playing for contracts
DeAndre Levy is a stud
Nonsense. I'm eternally optimistic.Leroy Hoard said:Welcome to The Lions Den. Please forgive us older fans for being so cynical, we have been thru a lot with this team over the years.TartanLion said:I'm 32 from Glasgow Scotland, have followed the Lions since I was 8 years old and have been to Detroit on holiday before to see Tigers and Lions games. I even have an old English D tattoo. And yes I may be slightly insane.
Had a great time in your city on a sports watching bar drinking holiday with my bro and met many amazingly friendly and warm people along the way.
Part of it has to be the HC. Many Detroit fans didn't want Caldwell but I thought it was a solid hire.Whats different from last year? I would imagine different DC, but I haven't followed them much. Just know they shut down two teams but laid an egg against the Panthers for some reason.good front 7, Slay is the only guy in the secondary worth a darn.Whats the deal with your D this year? Legit? or has it just been a good start?
Educate me please.
Tulloch doing the discount double check is a huge blow.
Should be decent points coming up against NYJ,Buff and Minny
why is tate a tool?The Lions were 3-1 a year ago as well. The defense, despite injuries, is much better. The run game is worse. Tate III is a complete tool but he is a nice complimentary weapon. Good to see Ebron involved more yesterday.
Good player, glad he's on the team.why is tate a tool?The Lions were 3-1 a year ago as well. The defense, despite injuries, is much better. The run game is worse. Tate III is a complete tool but he is a nice complimentary weapon. Good to see Ebron involved more yesterday.
He was worth every penny
Yes/no. I was going nuts on that first drive - it was so friggin' obvious and we never adjusted. Jets would line up in heavy set (3 TEs), and we're in our base D with 6-7 men in the box. It was simple arithmetic - Ivory was gouging us because they had more blockers than defenders. I couldn't believe we failed to adjusted.3-1 is nothing to sneeze at, like BL said the D has improved despite injuries. Good hires defensively by Caldwell.
I'd like to start today's notebook off with an apology to running back George Winn for interrupting his nap.
You see, just about every day when the locker room opens to the media, reporters walk in and find Winn spread out in front of his locker with a sweatshirt or towel over his head taking a nap before practice.
This is a daily occurrence and no one really bothers him because practice squad players aren't usually high on reporters' list of players they want to talk to in the 45-minute session.
Unfortunately for him, and his nap schedule, there were things to talk about on Wednesday, particularly his promotion to the 53-man roster Tuesday afternoon.
So, Winn got up, grabbed a seat on his stool and let reporters fire questions at him for six or seven minutes.
I'm getting up around 5 or 6 a.m. to get here on time and get situated so I like to get that extra nap in to make sure I'm ready for practice, Winn said. It's about a 30-minute nap.
Winn is currently living with his parents in West Bloomfield and the commute to Allen Park is around 40 minutes each morning.
Save my money, man, Winn said when asked about living with his parents. I knew how last season went with me bouncing around (from Raiders, Steelers and Cowboys practice squads), so I didn't want to get caught up with a lease or have to worry about what I was going to do with my furniture or anything like that. So I thought I'd stay home for the first six or seven weeks."
But what about now that he's on the 53-man roster and that paycheck has taken a giant tick upward?
Now I can consider moving out, Winn said with a laugh.
As for what Winn brings to the table on Sunday vs. Buffalo, it's a hard-nosed running style that can pick up tough yards.
I think he's a guy that's up for the task, head coach Jim Caldwell said when asked if Winn would play this week. He worked extremely hard obviously during preseason, was able to come in, do some good things. We think he's progressed since then so I do believe if called upon he certainly can help us.
Running back Joique Bell is dealing with a head injury (did not practice Wednesday) and the team placed Montell Owens on injured reserve Tuesday afternoon.
Winn, who grew up in Southfield, said he's excited to make his NFL debut in Detroit and his ticket requests have gone through the roof this week.
When Winn was done answering every question reporters had for him, he pushed his stool aside and went back to sleep.
That's a first.Joseph Fauria: I injured my ankle chasing peeing puppy
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000403340/article/joseph-fauria-i-injured-my-ankle-chasing-peeing-puppy
With tensions surrounding the local baseball teams playoff chances, you can always rely on the Lions to provide comic relief.Joseph Fauria: I injured my ankle chasing peeing puppy
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000403340/article/joseph-fauria-i-injured-my-ankle-chasing-peeing-puppy
I remember when one of the Lions coaches was arrested for indecent exposure for ordering food at a drive-thru window naked.With tensions surrounding the local baseball teams playoff chances, you can always rely on the Lions to provide comic relief.Joseph Fauria: I injured my ankle chasing peeing puppy
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000403340/article/joseph-fauria-i-injured-my-ankle-chasing-peeing-puppy
Not quite the same, but close enough?Jerry Curl said:That's a first.Joseph Fauria: I injured my ankle chasing peeing puppyhttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000403340/article/joseph-fauria-i-injured-my-ankle-chasing-peeing-puppy
That game against Atlanta is at Wembley which makes it more winnable, imo. Neutral ground, and I fancy our D as better than theirs. Not a big fan of the whole Wembley games idea, but I'll certainly be there willing the Lions on to winJerry Curl said:5 W vs Bills
6 W at Vikings
7 W vs Saints
8 L at Falcons
9 Bye
10 W vs Dolphins
11 L at Cardinals
12 L at Patriots
13 W vs Bears
14 W vs Buccaneers
15 W vs Vikings
16 L at Bears
Looks like 10-6 with possibilities of 9-7 or 11-5. Obviously can go worse but just decided to look at the schedule and see the matchups since I am trying to acquire Tate and make someone reasonable projections. Looks like some easy wins and only a few tough teams. Not he biggest Lions fan but would love to see this team reach consistent success.
A bit off topic here, but with the the push to locate a team in the U.K. by 2022, I'm curious to know more about the fan base. By way of example, here in NYC you can find various bars that cater to particular team. In my neighborhood (Hell's Kitchen), there is a Steelers pub. You can go around the city and a number of EPL bars packed on Saturday mornings. When I went to the Atsenal - Red Bulls friendly this summer, there were way more Gunners jersey in the arena. How popular is the NFL there? Have you attended NFL games in London before?That game against Atlanta is at Wembley which makes it more winnable, imo. Neutral ground, and I fancy our D as better than theirs. Not a big fan of the whole Wembley games idea, but I'll certainly be there willing the Lions on to win5 W vs Bills
6 W at Vikings
7 W vs Saints
8 L at Falcons
9 Bye
10 W vs Dolphins
11 L at Cardinals
12 L at Patriots
13 W vs Bears
14 W vs Buccaneers
15 W vs Vikings
16 L at Bears
Looks like 10-6 with possibilities of 9-7 or 11-5. Obviously can go worse but just decided to look at the schedule and see the matchups since I am trying to acquire Tate and make someone reasonable projections. Looks like some easy wins and only a few tough teams. Not he biggest Lions fan but would love to see this team reach consistent success.
I've got extensive family in Washington state. When they visited Scotland in the late 80s ( I was around 8 ), they brought with them a hardcover NFL guide book to the game and all the teams in the league. As soon as I saw the Lion helmet that was me. From that point on it grew into a love of the Red Wings ( healthy interest in hockey as I've played field hockey all my life ) and Tigers and a general growing interest in the creative culture of the city and everything about. I have visited the city on two occasions now. A love of city's sports teams basically caused me to have a strange love of the city in general.That's cool, sounds a lot like soccer here. How did you end up rooting for the Lions? Sorry if you already answered.
You have to admit that for all the team ups and downs, those are 3 pretty cool logos.I've got extensive family in Washington state. When they visited Scotland in the late 80s ( I was around 8 ), they brought with them a hardcover NFL guide book to the game and all the teams in the league. As soon as I saw the Lion helmet that was me. From that point on it grew into a love of the Red Wings ( healthy interest in hockey as I've played field hockey all my life ) and Tigers and a general growing interest in the creative culture of the city and everything about. I have visited the city on two occasions now. A love of city's sports teams basically caused me to have a strange love of the city in general.That's cool, sounds a lot like soccer here. How did you end up rooting for the Lions? Sorry if you already answered.
This is funny cause it's the exact same thing here, except with the sports reversed. Lots of hipster soccer fans. I assumed they maybe preferred the aesthetics of the beautiful game to the bone-crunching hits of the NFL, but I think I was giving them too much credit. They're just looking for something to be pretentious about.Much like you feel a certain small sense of annoyance when that under appreciated little known band you love makes it big and attracts a whole new host of fans ; its current popularity slightly rankles with me when I watch Sky Sports showing footage of bars in London having Superbowl parties with celebrity Z listers being interviewed and a growing mass of young hipsters, art school, indy types that usually hate any sport, tagging on cause they've decided its the 'in' cool sport to get into to be different.
You can say what you want about Detroit and Michigan, but the sports teams (college and pro) all look good. It hasn't always carried over to their play though.You have to admit that for all the team ups and downs, those are 3 pretty cool logos.I've got extensive family in Washington state. When they visited Scotland in the late 80s ( I was around 8 ), they brought with them a hardcover NFL guide book to the game and all the teams in the league. As soon as I saw the Lion helmet that was me. From that point on it grew into a love of the Red Wings ( healthy interest in hockey as I've played field hockey all my life ) and Tigers and a general growing interest in the creative culture of the city and everything about. I have visited the city on two occasions now. A love of city's sports teams basically caused me to have a strange love of the city in general.That's cool, sounds a lot like soccer here. How did you end up rooting for the Lions? Sorry if you already answered.
I was thinking the same thing. A blowout win would be really nice today.We got Waddle back this week which should help. Williams out for them, and Waddle in for us is a nice swing in our direction. Carey back as well.
Really hope our O piles on the points against Schwartz and sticks it to him.
Some chance still. Get a new kicker and hope the prognosis for johnson & bush is good. Bell should be back.Absolutely terrible. Unimaginable. No, wait. Not unimaginable at all as this is the Lions. Sadly predicted it would come down to Henery missing a field goal about 50 mins before it happened when the score was 14-6. There's always a new way for the curse to keep hold of us. We sort the defence out, we're managing whilst adapting our O and suffering some injuries so by default it must be our kicking game that becomes the new farce of epic proportions.
Worst thing about it was Schwartz claiming the limelight and celebrating at the end. If Henery had sunk his two regulation FG's we could've been 20-6 up with the game pretty much dead and buried despite the O falling apart and not doing anything.
Potentially falling apart at the seams here.
I see Nick still smokes grass. good for him