King of the Jungle
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Darn it....my expectations are rising....
He’s only 30 and was a Pro Bowler in 2017. He missed time last year with a foot injury. I assume the Lions think he’s healthy if they signed him. Lions aren’t going to be run on by anyone this year. My worry still is that the secondary, LBs in coverage and outside pass rush might make passing against Detroit a bit too easy.whoknew said:According to Schefter, the Lions are signing Mike Daniels.
Is he any good anymore? Is he still good?
really like this signing. we probably have the best interior dline in the nfl.He’s only 30 and was a Pro Bowler in 2017. He missed time last year with a foot injury. I assume the Lions think he’s healthy if they signed him. Lions aren’t going to be run on by anyone this year. My worry still is that the secondary, LBs in coverage and outside pass rush might make passing against Detroit a bit too easy.
The best IDL without a doubt.Flowers, Okwara and Hand will be plenty fine on the edges though we have no real athleticism there. I just hope pass coverage can hold up.really like this signing. we probably have the best interior dline in the nfl.
don't sleep on Okwara at DE, he had a nice year last year and should only get better. I expect our defense to be bordering on top 10. I have a hard time seeing us better than 8-8 maybe 9-7 but stranger things have happened.
It's a bit puzzling to me honestly. He can't run the ball but he's an incredibly effective in the short passing game. PFF said only Todd Gurley had more YAC at the RB position than Theo over the last 3 years and that's with Gurley played 1000 more snaps. I find it hard to believe the Lions didn't have a role for him this year. They must really like what they have seen from rookie Ty Johnson.Theo cut
Theo will have a job very soon. Still think he should be a full time slot guy. Has all the skills needed and played that at ND. Maybe the Pats will find room for him.It's a bit puzzling to me honestly. He can't run the ball but he's an incredibly effective in the short passing game. PFF said only Todd Gurley had more YAC at the RB position than Theo over the last 3 years and that's with Gurley played 1000 more snaps. I find it hard to believe the Lions didn't have a role for him this year. They must really like what they have seen from rookie Ty Johnson.
Based on I was reading from the Lions reporters, Detroit had enough money to sign Daniels, keep Theo and still have $14 million of cap space available. I agree Theo was a giveaway they were passing but that was his role: be on the field when they had to pass as he was both a solider receiver and pass blocker. Also, he was used in the slot to good effect from time to time. I felt like he could play a role similar to the often injured Amendola.Theo was probably cut to make cap room for Daniels.I don't mind this.Defenses all ways knew the lions were passing when Riddick was in.
Appealing it, says he was using fertility treatment drugs without realizing it had a banned substance. Claims he notified the team, league and NFLPA. I remember he ripped Seahawks DBs for being selfish, getting themselves suspended for PEDs.Golden Tate gets a 4 game suspension.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2019/07/27/former-lion-tate-draws-4-game-suspension-peds/1846801001/
He was already a 3-down back, this just jacks his price up. He stays healthy his PPR floor is around 245 (1,500 YFS, 6 TDS, 60 rec.) That’s inside the top ten. Expect his ADP to rise from RB19 to RB15, he’ll still be a good value IMO.Kerryon owners will like the Theo cut, KJ is more of a 3 down back now.
As someone picking late in the 3rd in his main league, I hate what this is going to do to his adpHe was already a 3-down back, this just jacks his price up. He stays healthy his PPR floor is around 245 (1,500 YFS, 6 TDS, 60 rec.) That’s inside the top ten. Expect his ADP to rise from RB19 to RB15, he’ll still be a good value IMO.
Ha! Yeah I have no shot either picking 34th (1.10 in a 12 team.) Whereas rn you can choose between Freeman, Kerryon or Aaron Jones in mocks, come late August it’ll be Drake, Jacobs or Lindsey.As someone picking late in the 3rd in his main league, I hate what this is going to do to his adp
Off topic - I am continually amazed Matthew Berry has a career as a FF analyst. He’s a buffoon.
I'd consider Mark Andrews as a late round TE target as well.BobbyLayne said:The Detroit News likely misquoted this or its lacking context:
”According to Berry, Evan Engram of the New York Giants was the only rookie to finish in the top 10 in fantasy points for tight ends. Engram accomplished the feat in 2017, which was buoyed by injuries to wide receivers Odell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall.”
Pretty sure the quote should have been “Since Gronk, Engram is the only rookie TE to finish top 12.” Here’s a list from last summer (e.g., does not include 2018) of every rookie TE who finished inside the Top 30 at the position.
Rookie TEs who finished TE30 or better
If he stays healthy he should be Top 15 and his RZ potentially makes him a low TE1. I’ve got three distinct tiers:
Elite - Kelce, Kittle, Ertz
Set it & forget it - Howard, Engram, Henry
The Big 3 are gonna be gone by the 25th pick. Howard & Engram should be there late 5th / early 6th. Henry is ECR TE6 but a lot of people slide Enron or Cook ahead of him.
Gonna need a TE2 also - Ebron, Cook, Njoku, McDonald
Borderline - Hooper, Burton, Rudolph, Walker
If you take one of those 8 I think you have to snag Hock in the 13th-14th. If somebody reaches maybe take Reed, Fant or Goedert.
I don’t see the Lions giving him more than 60-70 targets, and he’ll be inconsistent with a lot of dud weeks where doesn’t get a TD.
I tell myself that every mock draft & have never taken him (because I have him as TE15 or sumtin.) Wondering too if Hayden Hurst starts earning his contract.I'd consider Mark Andrews as a late round TE target as well.
October 15. We’ll be 4-1 and coming off whupping Packers in Lambeau, everyone will be asking “are these guys for real? Does Hock have a shot at 20 TDs? Is Patricia a great coach or the greatest coach?”Once the tigers finish trading off their best players, I expect this thread to really take off.
Also read a lot of stuff about Kerryon looking like garbage in pass proNot gonna link camp reports because 99% of them are fluff & filler, but the defense dominated Day 6 of TC. Tracy Walker is looking good & likely to start alongside Diggs. Wiggins looks like he’s the starting LG (for now.) Stafford looks like manure - pick 6 & a lot of off target throws. Amendola is by far the best route runner. Ty Johnson is a burner and at 212 pounds not as little as you might be thinking; he did well in pass pro drills. He’ll see a lot of work in PS IMO, might be some hype as the Theo replacement.
Two days in a row he’s struggled with the one on one blocking RB v LB drill. It’s an evaluation that heavily favors the D but Ty Johnson has been looking decent. Hence the thought he’ll be ready to take over the Theo role.Also read a lot of stuff about Kerryon looking like garbage in pass pro
LSU has a lot of Lions fans?Once the tigers finish trading off their best players, I expect this thread to really take off.
Well at one time the Lions did play their games in Tiger Stadium.LSU has a lot of Lions fans?
Aye, but they were never NFL Champions when it was called that (1961-99.)Well at one time the Lions did play their games in Tiger Stadium.
Stafford had another bad day at TC, he’s looked terrible this week. Amendola probably ain’t done yet, he got behind Agnew, who is faster than Slay. Jermaine Kearse and rookie Travis have been early standouts for the two backups - they’ll probably keep 5 on the 53-man - so Brandon Powell might be on the bubble.
Hock opened up practice winning three straight 1-on-1s with DBs. Not sure how many targets he’ll get, James is also having a very good TC, but that kid is a stud.
My opinion is KJ, CJ, and the kicker are the 3 best values on this team. Run first offense with the passes being spread around a bunch of people.
Do you think there is any chance Hock makes a fantasy impact this year? It sure seems like he is getting fed a lot with the first team.
For sure- the thing with Hock tho is he is going so late and the threshold for a TE being viable is so low.Leroy Hoard said:My opinion is KJ, CJ, and the kicker are the 3 best values on this team. Run first offense with the passes being spread around a bunch of people.
Coach Patricia talks a lot about consistency. Has to be pleased this is the fifth straight preseason game they’ve looked completely unprepared in every phase of the game.Lions have already worked themselves into midseason form.
Smartest man in the room. That’s presuming Bob Quinn is somewhere else, since he’s already done his once a year presser.Someone really needs to run up and steal that pointy pencil out of Mattys stupid ear.