Good questions. With all the restructuring to create cap room, I think Holmes has something up his sleeve. Not sure if it's for a WR though.Lions are on WR watch. Big trade? High draft pick?
Well that rules out Richardson or Levis. The QB position is locked up for the next decade.In underwhelming news, the Lions re-signed Nate Sudfeld.
I feel like WR is our most pressing need if we want to contend this year.Good questions. With all the restructuring to create cap room, I think Holmes has something up his sleeve. Not sure if it's for a WR though.Lions are on WR watch. Big trade? High draft pick?
Give MIA your6th rounder this year and you can have Cedric Wilson. He'd be a decent 3rd WR.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
Very disappointing to lose Chark particularly on a one-year deal. Carolina after losing DJ Moore has little at WR so appears to be a case of him wanting to be the big fish in a little pond. And then go for big pay day next year. There probably wasn't much difference between the Lions and Panthers offers.I feel like WR is our most pressing need if we want to contend this year.Good questions. With all the restructuring to create cap room, I think Holmes has something up his sleeve. Not sure if it's for a WR though.Lions are on WR watch. Big trade? High draft pick?
I'd imagine that Marvin Jones is on their radar. Either could probably fill the role.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
Agree. There's Also a much better chance of the Panthers resigning him to a big deal than the Lions if he does have a big yearLions already have a solid 2 as starters plus good backups. They will pick up a #3 somewhere along the line to go with what should again be a run heavy offense. They did good with less last year since Jamo was really never part of it.
I like Marvin but he’s 33 and clearly in decline. I wouldn’t want to go into the season depending on him playing a ton of meaningful snaps.I'd imagine that Marvin Jones is on their radar. Either could probably fill the role.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
They also like Reynolds, but I agree they need another big body.
Don't think Jones wasn't getting much separation along with Golliday even when Stafford was QB.I like Marvin but he’s 33 and clearly in decline. I wouldn’t want to go into the season depending on him to playing a ton of meaningful snaps.I'd imagine that Marvin Jones is on their radar. Either could probably fill the role.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
They also like Reynolds, but I agree they need another big body.
Nope but Stafford could throw well placed jump balls and Jones was great at sideline contested catches. Goff doesn’t make those throws and Jones likely can’t keep that style of play up.Don't think Jones wasn't getting much separation along with Golliday even when Stafford was QB.
Funny but his best comparable player on Playerprofiler is Josh Reynolds.Cedric Wilson didn't play much last year because of Waddle, Hill, and others. He was signed before the Hill trade but didn't complain and accepted the role on special teams and 4th or 5th WR. Why is he available? Miami has limited cap space in 2023 and beyond. Cedric has 2 more years on his contract.
But in 2021, seems like a fit for the Lions...
Anyone know the correlation on team visits and said team drafting you? I feel like there isn't a connection honestly.Reported Lions visits with prospects:
QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine)
QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day)
QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30)
RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day)
WR Quentin Johnston, Texas (NFL Combine)
WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine)
WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine)
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine)
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine)
OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine)
OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day)
T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine)
G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit)
G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit)
DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day)
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit)
LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine)
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine)
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day)
CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day)
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine)
Brad Holmes was at the Alabama Pro Day this week (presumably every team was, right?)
Anyone know the correlation on team visits and said team drafting you? I feel like there isn't a connection honestly.Reported Lions visits with prospects:
QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine)
QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day)
QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30)
RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day)
WR Quentin Johnston, Texas (NFL Combine)
WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine)
WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine)
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine)
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine)
OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine)
OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day)
T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine)
G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit)
G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit)
DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day)
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit)
LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine)
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine)
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day)
CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day)
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine)
Brad Holmes was at the Alabama Pro Day this week (presumably every team was, right?)
Corey Davis and DJ Chark are interchangable guys in my book.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
Looks like there was a correlation with position, in the number of interviews for the same position. And if they didn't manage the trade up for Jamison, maybe they would have targeted Burks.Anyone know the correlation on team visits and said team drafting you? I feel like there isn't a connection honestly.Reported Lions visits with prospects:
QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine)
QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day)
QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30)
RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day)
WR Quentin Johnston, Texas (NFL Combine)
WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine)
WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine)
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine)
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine)
OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine)
OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day)
T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine)
G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit)
G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit)
DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day)
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit)
LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine)
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine)
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day)
CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day)
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine)
Brad Holmes was at the Alabama Pro Day this week (presumably every team was, right?)
List of 2022 NFL Draft Prospects Lions Have Visited With
WR Treylon Burks, Arkansas
LB Nakobe Dean, Georgia
LB Ali Fayad, Western Michigan
CB Ahmad Gardner, Cincinnati
CB Derek Stingley, LSU
EDGE Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon
DE Travon Walker, Georgia
DL Eric Johnson, Missouri State
DL Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
DL Jermaine Johnson, Florida State
LB Brian Asamoah, Oklahoma
S Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame
S Kerby Joseph, Illinois
LB Devin Harper, Oklahoma State
CB Ja’Quan McMillian, East Carolina
S Lewis Cine, Georgia
S Delarrin Turner-Yell, Oklahoma
Combine interviews:
Wide receiver Treylon Burks
Defensive end George Karlaftis, Purdue
Quarterback Malik Willis, Liberty
I think what it shows is the Lions or anyone did not want to give Chark a nulti-year deal. No team was enamored by Chark's ability to stay healthy. He will get more targets in Carolina and a better chance to ink a long term deal next season.Chark signed a 10 million one year prove it contract with Lions. Guess he didn't prove much as he signed with Carolina on a 5 million one year prove it contract.
Suggests Lions really didn't want to keep him. Do not know what their offer was to Chark. I can see Chark moving to Carolina if offers were the same because of the appeal of being top dog. But Theilen got a 3 year contract for 25 million with triple the guaranteed money. So Chark isn't top dog going in and he's also will be going through a rookie QB's growing pains.
DJ is a better down field threat IMO, but Davis can be a decent complimentary piece. CD also offers much better from a blocking standpoint.Corey Davis and DJ Chark are interchangable guys in my book.I wonder with all these WR signings if the Jets plan to cut Corey Davis. That might be a nice fit in Detroit.
Good call on position. The interview could also mean they are interested but have big ? about that guy and need a closer look. The interview could lead them to a definite no on the guy.Looks like there was a correlation with position, in the number of interviews for the same position. And if they didn't manage the trade up for Jamison, maybe they would have targeted Burks.Anyone know the correlation on team visits and said team drafting you? I feel like there isn't a connection honestly.Reported Lions visits with prospects:
QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine)
QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day)
QB Adrian Martinez, Kansas State (Top 30)
RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day)
WR Quentin Johnston, Texas (NFL Combine)
WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine)
WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine)
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine)
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine)
OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine)
OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day)
T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine)
G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit)
G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit)
DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day)
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green (Top 30 visit)
LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine)
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine)
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day)
CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day)
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine)
Brad Holmes was at the Alabama Pro Day this week (presumably every team was, right?)
List of 2022 NFL Draft Prospects Lions Have Visited With
WR Treylon Burks, Arkansas
LB Nakobe Dean, Georgia
LB Ali Fayad, Western Michigan
CB Ahmad Gardner, Cincinnati
CB Derek Stingley, LSU
EDGE Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon
DE Travon Walker, Georgia
DL Eric Johnson, Missouri State
DL Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
DL Jermaine Johnson, Florida State
LB Brian Asamoah, Oklahoma
S Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame
S Kerby Joseph, Illinois
LB Devin Harper, Oklahoma State
CB Ja’Quan McMillian, East Carolina
S Lewis Cine, Georgia
S Delarrin Turner-Yell, Oklahoma
Combine interviews:
Wide receiver Treylon Burks
Defensive end George Karlaftis, Purdue
Quarterback Malik Willis, Liberty
The interview could lead them to a definite no on the guy.
The way receivers are valued these days I wouldn’t think he would fall that far. Even though it is a weaker than normal WR crop teams will still be searching for playmakers on the outside.Any chance Quentin Johnson falls to Detroit's second pick?
I would say it’s a 25% chanceAny chance Quentin Johnson falls to Detroit's second pick?
I would say it’s a 25% chanceAny chance Quentin Johnson falls to Detroit's second pick?
He’s not my favorite either but he sure has a unique size skill combo for this draft, it’s a perfect match for what Detroit needs and the more I’ve seen of Max Duggan, the more I do believe Max was holding Q back.Quentin Johnson drops way too many passes for my liking. I'll pass.
He’s not my favorite either but he sure has a unique size skill combo for this draft, it’s a perfect match for what Detroit needs and the more I’ve seen of Max Duggan, the more I do believe Max was holding Q back.Quentin Johnson drops way too many passes for my liking. I'll pass.
Anthony Richardson at 1.06? Do I love AR? Nope. He has some big flaws that could be fatal but I think he's mostly a mystery box. All the tools are there to be a Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson MVP candidate level QB. Detroit is in the unique position of being able to take it slow with him as there would be zero expectation that he starts a game this year. I know this is controversial so here's my rationale
- This IS a win now move. The Lions are clearly setting this team up to make a playoff run in 2023. As they should, they are a significant favorite to win the NFC North. All it takes is one injury to Goff though and the season is done. We could be looking at a 9-3 record and then boom, Goff falls the wrong way, breaks a collarbone and now it's Nate Sudfeld or some veteran off the scrap heap like Flacco or Bridgewater. Having AR, would give us a super talented backup and possibly provide enough playmaking ability where even if his passing isn't ready, his legs can wreak havoc on defenses.
- This is also a win later move. It gives us options for the QB position. Leverage for the Goff negotiations, the ability to let Goff walk, a potential star QB on a rookie deal with a loaded roster.
- If we are thinking Super Bowl this year, adding a few Richardson packages as the year goes would add a wrinkle to the offense that could give defenses fits. Look at the Eagles and their push play. Nobody is stopping AR at the goal line or on 4th and short. Think Taysom Hill with blazing speed and a cannon arm.
- QB is the ultimate value. There is no position harder to fill in all of football and their price tag is higher than any other position (both in terms of contract $ and trade value). If Richardson plays in some preseason, gets a few reps here and there during the season and the buzz is good, he can be a huge trade chip for the future. QB is probably the only position where a top 10 pick can hardly even play or only play decently and still retain a ton of value. If we decide we want to commit long term to Goff, we can probably flip AR for a 1st or 2nd.
We would at least have time to determine Richardson’s trajectory and a lot of time to develop him. If he’s not the future, Detroit can still resign Goff or target someone else. He doesn’t have to replace Goff. Given how talented AR is, the 6th pick seems worth the chance to develop a guy like him.I'm slowly coming around on this. Myles Murphy or Tyree Wilson could be incredibly impactful, any of the big 3 Corners future proofs the position and unlike Okudah they'll be allowed to develop slowly. Even PJJ or Skoronski makes sense, very on brand. All of these ideas make the team better immediately.
You take Richardson, that's a bold move. You're not getting much return Y1, though I do love the idea of Ben Johnson putting in a package for him. But man, whether it's later this year or next, that first year starting is going to be pure pain. We are the favorites to win the NFC North and let's not forget that would be the first division title in 30 years.
If this works out, the SB window becomes a whole lot wider. But as Holmes has said, it's a lot easier to get worse at QB than it is to get better.
I thought Minny might be favoured for the div but looks like Detroit is (which I agree with). Tough call on Richardson.... this is probably the highest you will draft for a very long time, so if you are looking for a post-Goff franchise QB, this is the year to go for it. Should be a fun season for the Lions, they'll be fun to watch.I wouldn't hate it but it could s!ow things down for 2023 in terms of winning their first division or playoff game in 30 years. Time and patience are in short supply.
Or it could save the season if Goff gets hurt. Plus Richardson could actually be a pretty potent offensive weapon in year one. I think Dan and Ben are creative enough to find spots where AR can shine while hiding his weaknesses.I wouldn't hate it but it could s!ow things down for 2023 in terms of winning their first division or playoff game in 30 years. Time and patience are in short supply.
Yes, we don’t want to get caught in no man’s land where you aren’t good enough to win a SB but aren’t bad enough to get a franchise QB. What happens if Goff wants a top 5 QB deal? Do we really want to be like the Colts where we are trying out QBs other teams have discarded?I thought Minny might be favoured for the div but looks like Detroit is (which I agree with). Tough call on Richardson.... this is probably the highest you will draft for a very long time, so if you are looking for a post-Goff franchise QB, this is the year to go for it. Should be a fun season for the Lions, they'll be fun to watch.I wouldn't hate it but it could s!ow things down for 2023 in terms of winning their first division or playoff game in 30 years. Time and patience are in short supply.
I do see your deluxe Taysom Hill comparison.Or it could save the season if Goff gets hurt. Plus Richardson could actually be a pretty potent offensive weapon in year one. I think Dan and Ben are creative enough to find spots where AR can shine while hiding his weaknesses.I wouldn't hate it but it could s!ow things down for 2023 in terms of winning their first division or playoff game in 30 years. Time and patience are in short supply.
I thought Minny might be favoured for the div but looks like Detroit is (which I agree with). Tough call on Richardson.... this is probably the highest you will draft for a very long time, so if you are looking for a post-Goff franchise QB, this is the year to go for it. Should be a fun season for the Lions, they'll be fun to watch.I wouldn't hate it but it could s!ow things down for 2023 in terms of winning their first division or playoff game in 30 years. Time and patience are in short supply.
Also I don’t know why but I don’t want Tyree Wilson. I would rather have the Iowa kid. Tyree is older and did I hear correctly he already has 2 foot fractures?
Week 14 Vikings @ Lions on nfl network right now.
FWIW, Teddy Bridgewater has graded out about the same as Goff in recent years, maybe even a tad higher. By the eye test, I saw a nice intermediate and deep ball when given time. The longest air completion (air distance) to Tyreek was not Tua or Mahomes. It was about a 60 yard pass from Teddy in 2022. He had a knee issue late last year, that should make his price lower than it was in 2022, even if he has recovered.Or it could save the season if Goff gets hurt. Plus Richardson could actually be a pretty potent offensive weapon in year one. I think Dan and Ben are creative enough to find spots where AR can shine while hiding his weaknesses
I can’t find anything on it but I swore someone said it on a podcast. Seems likely just a first time foot fracture. To me he’s a like Ness, just power. He’s a lot stiffer from what I saw. I think LVN is just tapping his potential. He looked almost LB smooth in the drills at the combine. Has a lot of experience playing inside as well. The bench number is weirdly low. He has longer arms but not freakishly long or anything. I guess all of this just leads me back to Richardson. It’s just not a great draft class.Also I don’t know why but I don’t want Tyree Wilson. I would rather have the Iowa kid. Tyree is older and did I hear correctly he already has 2 foot fractures?
I can't find the bolded anywhere, do you remember where you heard it?
He's been medically cleared by Dr. Robert Anderson (best foot specialist in the world) but not doing anything on his Pro Day bc he's got an incision that can't be exposed to sweat. IIRC he had some hardware inside his foot at the Combine which was recently removed. He only did the Bench Press, supposed to hold a private workout in mid-April for interested teams.
Tyree has tremendous physical traits. I could see him developing far beyond what he is today (which is pretty good.)
Not a fan of Hercules. Didn't he have the fewest bench reps of any ED at the Combine? Which is super weird bc his tape is so boring - no plan of attack, just bull rush bull rush bull rush. It worked so why change? His lack of upper body strength makes me think he'll not have the speed-to-power transition that is required at the pro level. He's pretty much a specialist, had one 50 snap game in his career and never started a game.
He is one year younger, Wilson was recruited by A&M and then transferred to Tech.