msudaisy26
Footballguy
Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?
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2024 Detroit Lions: Draft complete. (19 Viewers)
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Did you talk to her about it before or after my post?
No. Shelia's views on domestic violence were widely publicized during the Cam Sutton fiasco. HTH.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Right, but on a guy running from the law. Not a guy where there was no appearance of guilt.
He is on the back part of his career and hasn't had a big season yet.
No appearance = the girl had scratches on her neck.
It ain't happening. It would not surprise me if Brad's entire draft card had about 20 names on it. Character is that important to what the Lions are building.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Zay snatched a chain off his baby mama, scratching her neck. Guess you could try to argue that’s fairly innocuous I suppose. Personally I think any kind of intimidation (breaking stuff, flipping furniture) is a form of abuse and no one should be subjected to it.
Zay has a history of legal troubles & (very) erratic behavior. Google if you’re curious. His brother (also an NFLer) also has a DV arrest. Not sure why anyone would stump for him.
Zay has a history of legal troubles & (very) erratic behavior. Google if you’re curious. His brother (also an NFLer) also has a DV arrest. Not sure why anyone would stump for him.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
These are not the droids you are looking for.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
They are looking for a guy to come in and take Josh Reynolds spot. Not St. Brown's.
DPJ is a much better option and Kalif is fine as a 4th and on special teams. There are other guys I would rather give a roster spot to than Zay Jones, like Antoine Green who is still developing.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Looks like there may have been a backup plan in case Arnold got sniped.
lionswire.usatoday.com
Robertson ended up with Arizona at 27.
Were Lions trying to trade up for Darius Robinson?
The Lions were ready to trade up for Missouri DL Darius Robinson in the 1st round if Terrion Arnold was unavailable, per Albert Breer of SI
lionswire.usatoday.com
Robertson ended up with Arizona at 27.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lions OTA & Minicamp schedule:
Rookie Minicamp: May 10-12
OTA Offseason Workouts: May 21-23, May 29-31, June 10-12
Mandatory Minicamp:
June 4-6
Rookie Minicamp: May 10-12
OTA Offseason Workouts: May 21-23, May 29-31, June 10-12
Mandatory Minicamp:
June 4-6
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Where did you get this story?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Still can’t rule out Chark coming back
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That’s huge, I prefer Arnold sooooo much more.Looks like there may have been a backup plan in case Arnold got sniped.
Were Lions trying to trade up for Darius Robinson?
The Lions were ready to trade up for Missouri DL Darius Robinson in the 1st round if Terrion Arnold was unavailable, per Albert Breer of SI
Robertson ended up with Arizona at 27.
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LIONS TALK LIVE!!! ARNOLD ASKED DETROIT TO TRADE UP FOR HIM!
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Starting around the 2:00 mark
LIONS TALK LIVE!!! ARNOLD ASKED DETROIT TO TRADE UP FOR HIM!
Lions Talk Live is a place for Detroit Lions fans to stay connected and this is where we put all of our video content. This channel is all about the latest n...
Actually it was something he said to them during his Top 30 visit, several weeks in advance of the draft.
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Do you or @BobbyLayne think a tradeup with Miami at 1.21 for Quinyon Mitchell (or Arnold) was offered. What DET gave DAL 1.29 and 3.9 (73) would've been sufficient per the trade chart. Quinton has slightly more athleticism, but Terrion is better vs the run and has faced tougher competition.
Brad said he started calling teams in the late teens to trade up. Brad is not one to leave any stones unturned. Toughness and tackling are requirements for Lions defense, so I believe Brad when he said Rakeshaw and Arnold were his top two CB. Latu might have been their first target, but I have not known Brad to reveal players who got away. They always talk about the players they got and how excited they were to get them.
Grier said much the same, so we'll never know. But Grier values some athletic traits over "production". Many fans were initially disappointed in the Chop pick because of only 4 sacks. But he had top metrics in pass rush win rate and quick pressure rate. So fans are now more enthusiastic. If both Phillips and Chubb hadn't been injured, I think Grier accepts a tradedown offer like the one between DAL & DET.
A few good UDFA signings. Particularly good is Kingsley Eguakun a center from Florida. He was a 2-year starter before getting injured last year in preseason. He attempted to play mid-season, but could no longer go after four games. Super intelligent, good size 6'-3, 305 LBS. Gave him the max contract of $225k guarenteed. Off the radar because of his injury, but an excellent developmental guy.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Anyone know what’s going on with Branch?
Missed a couple games after getting a HAS v the Packers. I presume it was a minor surgery but haven’t been able to find out.
Missed a couple games after getting a HAS v the Packers. I presume it was a minor surgery but haven’t been able to find out.
Someone who claims to have talked to him said he had some cleanup done and thst he will be ready for camp.
Chark signed with the Chargers.
Smart move. He has a chance at a huge role there.
For a few games until he gets hurt.
Going to the Wayback Machine....nice call!
Moonlight
Footballguy
Holmes being described as arrogant by anonymous NFL executive for the Martin and Manu picks.
Perhaps some jealousy here but also those picks have raised eyebrows with Lions faithful.
I’ve wondered about them because of the amount of draft capital. But if either hits they would support Holmes’ somewhat unconventional approach.
Perhaps some jealousy here but also those picks have raised eyebrows with Lions faithful.
I’ve wondered about them because of the amount of draft capital. But if either hits they would support Holmes’ somewhat unconventional approach.
Holmes made his critics look foolish last year. I love the Manu pick. The Lions had some excess draft capital next year and used it to get a guy they really like this year. Manu is an unbelievable specimen of size, strength and athleticism. Lions love his character. He is not nearly as green as people think he is. Brad has a clear plan, and I have been a buyer since the beginning.
I can't say that I liked Holmes trading next years 3rd to draft Manu but I can't say I have a problem with it either. Holmes and Campbell had him in for a visit and got to see how well he moved among other things.
At this point, Holmes has crushed all 3 of his previous drafts so I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
At this point, Holmes has crushed all 3 of his previous drafts so I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Still have 8 picks in 2025, compared to the 6 they had this year. Some of the later ones could be combined to move up, or maybe even trade a 2026 pick if there is a player in that range they really want.
I'm not sure whether there is a compensatory pick coming their way for Jonah Jackson being signed away.
I'm not sure whether there is a compensatory pick coming their way for Jonah Jackson being signed away.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I trust Brad’s evaluations and process. OL was a need and they obviously had some later guys they valued higher. He is going to miss some picks but even if he bombs on a few he has done a heck of a job. He addressed the concern with some major upside and trusts his staff to get the best out of them. It will be fun to see how it works out on those.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
1 year 5 million. For that price would have liked to see him return. Chark never did get the big long term deal he was looking for when he left.
Lions must have faith in Jones as #3. Williams really needs to step it up now.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Holmes has done a really good job so far.
Only question marks are still to see if Williams can develop into a reliable 75 catch WR instead of just being a reverse threat. This is his season.
Some unnamed GMs are calling Holmes arrogant for trading up and drafting guys like Martin and Manu when they were projected to be late rounders at best. Manu was not even on some draft boards.
Not sure why they would use the term arrogant. It is either brilliance or stupidity. That has yet to be determined.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The very last opinions I would go by are competing GMs. It's like asking the CEO of Honda to review the newest Toyota.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Of course they are "unnamed"
Carlos Monarrez was smart not to put his name on this.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I really liked Amon-Ra as a prospect. I had similar enthusiasm for Gibbs at #12 last year.
This year my favorite prospect was Rome Odunze and unfortunately he went to the Bears. That guy can ball and gives 100% on every play. If Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy pan out, this is going to be a very competitive division.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Holmes seems to keenly understand how to evaluate talent + drive + team fit. I think he's the best in the business right now.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Its difficult to understand how anyone could have graded the Sewell pick as a D even if that person knew very little about football. Also the Bengals passed on him for Ja'Marr Chase. Bengals and Lions both won in the 2021 draft.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Right, in what world is a premier OT not worth a top 10 pick?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Bates is on our own backyard, at least kick the tires on him. Read Minny had interest..get him in the building.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He's already in the building.
But seriously, I'm not sure how much of a home advantage the Lions will have, it will probably come down to who pays him the most.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
From Weeks 3-13, Lions DT Alim McNeill averaged 3.2 Total QB Pressures/Game (Knee Sprain Week 13). Extrapolated over a 17-Game Regular Season that is 54.4 QB Pressures which would have tied him with Leonard Williams for 11th Most among Interior DL (just ahead of Javon Hargave/DeForest Buckner).
Now Alim McNeill, entering Year 4, gets to play on an interior with DJ Reader, Year 3 Josh Paschal, Year 2 Brodric Martin, and Rookie Mekhi Wingo. 60+ Total QB Pressures is not out of the question.
Worth noting, McNeill averaged 3 QB Pressures/Game in the Playoffs as well after returning from Injury.
Now Alim McNeill, entering Year 4, gets to play on an interior with DJ Reader, Year 3 Josh Paschal, Year 2 Brodric Martin, and Rookie Mekhi Wingo. 60+ Total QB Pressures is not out of the question.
Worth noting, McNeill averaged 3 QB Pressures/Game in the Playoffs as well after returning from Injury.
I think new D-Line coach Terrell Williams is going to have a huge impact on the entire line.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
It always boils down to $$$$. don`t blame him as this might be his only chance to get a little bonus cash.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
This should be interesting in camp and preseason. Maybe the Utah RB/Safety Vaki?
Yeah, I kind of think that was a factor in that pick. Jamo would be great, but we don't have the depth at WR to even think about it....unless we are deep in the playoffs.
