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Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
This same post could’ve been sent in June. :(Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Man, I have to do everything around here.This same post could’ve been sent in June. :(Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Love the forums in the off-season for dynasty talk. Anything besides talking about this crappy team.Man, I have to do everything around here.This same post could’ve been sent in June. :(Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Actually, I'm sure I would have but I make it a point to leave the forums after the Super Bowl and take a break until late July/early August.
You can talk about how there isn't anyone on the team that you want in dynasty. Right?Love the forums in the off-season for dynasty talk. Anything besides talking about this crappy team.Man, I have to do everything around here.This same post could’ve been sent in June. :(Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Actually, I'm sure I would have but I make it a point to leave the forums after the Super Bowl and take a break until late July/early August.
Absolutely.You can talk about how there isn't anyone on the team that you want in dynasty. Right?Love the forums in the off-season for dynasty talk. Anything besides talking about this crappy team.Man, I have to do everything around here.This same post could’ve been sent in June. :(Minshew and O'Connell are "competing" in practice for the starting job.
Must be nice to have two QBs that are so talented you just can't decide between them.
Actually, I'm sure I would have but I make it a point to leave the forums after the Super Bowl and take a break until late July/early August.
I'd like to hope this is true (and obviously hope it's nothing overly serious) but I find the source highly dubious. The silence is definitely worrisome. Been 15 some days now without a definitive word.Pulling this from Twitter, regarding Big Mike
“His family reached out to the team and informed them it’s a situation that has occurred in his life before and has popped up again”It has nothing to do with him wanting a trade or being frustrated with playing timeNow that the team knows what it is they feel like they can get to a resolution.This Per
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With Adams out of the picture using 12 personnel suddenly becomes a lot more of a possibility IMO. With Adams, who was going to sit when they went 12, Tucker or Meyers? That's a problem they no longer have. Their only problem running 12 personnel now is Getsy.Yeah, we aren't talking about Mayer enough in here. I honestly hope they don't trade him. He and Bowers may both be tight ends but that's in name only. They're skill sets are entirely different and a strong offensive minded coach could give opposing defenses fits by building an offense around those two.Pulling this from Twitter, regarding Big Mike
“His family reached out to the team and informed them it’s a situation that has occurred in his life before and has popped up again”It has nothing to do with him wanting a trade or being frustrated with playing timeNow that the team knows what it is they feel like they can get to a resolution.This Per
@YourboyQ254
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Someone like Ben "Got Dang" Johnson!
Okay...now I'm depressed.Harrowing thought No. 1,607 since Pierce took over: If they tank or swoon or, more likely, get coached into oblivion this season and manage a top 10 pick and get their "franchise" quarterback, how confident can you feel that kid reaches a fraction of his potential if Pierce and Getsy are still at the controls?
No you're not. You're regressing to the mean. The Raiders were remarkably healthy last year, especially defensively, especially the last half of the year when they played lights out. That was bound to catch up to them sooner or later...in this case sooner.Wilkins on IR.
We are cursed.
Regarding O'Connell, I'm a fan and I think this is a step in the right direction. He just, IMO, looks the part of an NFL quarterback. While he doesn't have "it," he does have "something." Which is more than Minshew who I feel has "little" or "nothing."AOC the starter next weekend.
Knowing the Raiders, it's probably chlamydia.Regarding O'Connell, I'm a fan and I think this is a step in the right direction. He just, IMO, looks the part of an NFL quarterback. While he doesn't have "it," he does have "something." Which is more than Minshew who I feel has "little" or "nothing."AOC the starter next weekend.
Now, hopefully, they've got 12 games to figure out what that "something" is.
:banned laugh emoji:Knowing the Raiders, it's probably chlamydia.Regarding O'Connell, I'm a fan and I think this is a step in the right direction. He just, IMO, looks the part of an NFL quarterback. While he doesn't have "it," he does have "something." Which is more than Minshew who I feel has "little" or "nothing."AOC the starter next weekend.
Now, hopefully, they've got 12 games to figure out what that "something" is.
His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
Although I did not specifically state it in the post you quoted I was referring to his first & second round picks exclusively. He made some very good picks, some bad ones too for sure, but he brought in some very good players in the first two rounds. I can't imagine his hit/miss rate was below the league average.His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
This is all untrue for his Chargers drafts. I posted objective data proving his Chargers drafts were poor earlier in this thread. You guys may not want to believe it, but his draft performance with the Chargers was poor at best.
I also posted earlier in the thread that he might learn from his Chargers experience and improve, and also that the Chargers draft performance under Telesco may have also had to do with the ownership family being too involved. I certainly didn't deeply follow the Raiders draft this season, but I know enough to know I really like the Bowers and JPJ picks... so perhaps he did improve. So his Chargers draft performance is likely not meaningful to you.
You have to remember what the Raider drafts have looked like for 20 years. They were the worst.His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
This is all untrue for his Chargers drafts. I posted objective data proving his Chargers drafts were poor earlier in this thread. You guys may not want to believe it, but his draft performance with the Chargers was poor at best.
I also posted earlier in the thread that he might learn from his Chargers experience and improve, and also that the Chargers draft performance under Telesco may have also had to do with the ownership family being too involved. I certainly didn't deeply follow the Raiders draft this season, but I know enough to know I really like the Bowers and JPJ picks... so perhaps he did improve. So his Chargers draft performance is likely not meaningful to you.
We'll always have 2014... sighYou have to remember what the Raider drafts have looked like for 20 years. They were the worst.His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
This is all untrue for his Chargers drafts. I posted objective data proving his Chargers drafts were poor earlier in this thread. You guys may not want to believe it, but his draft performance with the Chargers was poor at best.
I also posted earlier in the thread that he might learn from his Chargers experience and improve, and also that the Chargers draft performance under Telesco may have also had to do with the ownership family being too involved. I certainly didn't deeply follow the Raiders draft this season, but I know enough to know I really like the Bowers and JPJ picks... so perhaps he did improve. So his Chargers draft performance is likely not meaningful to you.
Although I did not specifically state it in the post you quoted I was referring to his first & second round picks exclusively. He made some very good picks, some bad ones too for sure, but he brought in some very good players in the first two rounds. I can't imagine his hit/miss rate was below the league average.His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
This is all untrue for his Chargers drafts. I posted objective data proving his Chargers drafts were poor earlier in this thread. You guys may not want to believe it, but his draft performance with the Chargers was poor at best.
I also posted earlier in the thread that he might learn from his Chargers experience and improve, and also that the Chargers draft performance under Telesco may have also had to do with the ownership family being too involved. I certainly didn't deeply follow the Raiders draft this season, but I know enough to know I really like the Bowers and JPJ picks... so perhaps he did improve. So his Chargers draft performance is likely not meaningful to you.
As for his drafts in their totality, I have no problem believing he was below average but I wonder how many objective analyses of GMs over similar lengths of time would look.
I don't know what his first Raiders draft class is going to look like in three years but his first, first round pick for the Raiders looks to be a home run.
he could be better now, in a different organization and with a lot of experience
12 first round picks for the Chargers,. I counted 4 good/great picks, 3 mediocre picks, and 5 bad picks.
He made 9 second round picks, and I would say 3 were good/great, 3 were mediocre, and 3 were bad.
12 first round picks for the Chargers,. I counted 4 good/great picks, 3 mediocre picks, and 5 bad picks.
He made 9 second round picks, and I would say 3 were good/great, 3 were mediocre, and 3 were bad.
If I had to guess with no data to prove it, my gut says this is likely a league average hit rate.
Do you have any stats to prove that it’s below average? (Not asking in a jerky way. Truly curious).
I'll see your 1,607 and raise it - what if AOC goes 7-5 to end the season? We end up 8-9 and drafting in the teens and "might" have our QB - do we trust a HC on year 2.5 to be willing to wipe the slate and go all in on a rookie QB? Do we get suckered again into thinking "maybe we already have the guy"? Are we right back where we were last May hoping Penix drops to us again? And THEN how confident can you feel that kid reaches a fraction of his potential if Pierce and Getsy are still at the controls?Harrowing thought No. 1,607 since Pierce took over: If they tank or swoon or, more likely, get coached into oblivion this season and manage a top 10 pick and get their "franchise" quarterback, how confident can you feel that kid reaches a fraction of his potential if Pierce and Getsy are still at the controls?
Yea, I wanted AOC from the start. Minshew is who he is.... he will help you win some games but he will lose you some games too. He is best as a backup. AOC may not be the next Brady but he is an accurate thrower with a decent arm. For the amount of gameplay he has had, shows a decent understanding of the game.Regarding O'Connell, I'm a fan and I think this is a step in the right direction. He just, IMO, looks the part of an NFL quarterback. While he doesn't have "it," he does have "something." Which is more than Minshew who I feel has "little" or "nothing."AOC the starter next weekend.
Now, hopefully, they've got 12 games to figure out what that "something" is.
I posted an early review of this draft class a bit ago.... the early out of the gate is that is looks pretty solid.His drafts, on the surface are actually pretty okay, if not good. The Chargers had plenty of talent.
As for TT, his picks seem good on paper
This is all untrue for his Chargers drafts. I posted objective data proving his Chargers drafts were poor earlier in this thread. You guys may not want to believe it, but his draft performance with the Chargers was poor at best.
I also posted earlier in the thread that he might learn from his Chargers experience and improve, and also that the Chargers draft performance under Telesco may have also had to do with the ownership family being too involved. I certainly didn't deeply follow the Raiders draft this season, but I know enough to know I really like the Bowers and JPJ picks... so perhaps he did improve. So his Chargers draft performance is likely not meaningful to you.
Glaze is getting some play right now to. I don't know how he looks on the field, living here in South Dakota I don't get to watch a lot of Raiders games but maybe he will turn out ok as wellhe could be better now, in a different organization and with a lot of experience
And free of the idiot Spanos kid. The 2024 later round picks got a ton of hype during camp/preseason, but so far at least none of them have lived up to that, with only Bowser and Powser looking like legit NFL players; tho in fairness, both of them look more than legit and like potential future All Pros.
That's very funny!!! Hopefully if O'Connell has "something" like that, he doesn't "pass" it along to the team...Knowing the Raiders, it's probably chlamydia.Regarding O'Connell, I'm a fan and I think this is a step in the right direction. He just, IMO, looks the part of an NFL quarterback. While he doesn't have "it," he does have "something." Which is more than Minshew who I feel has "little" or "nothing."AOC the starter next weekend.
Now, hopefully, they've got 12 games to figure out what that "something" is.
All valid harrowing thoughts. "Prediction?" With Pierce and Getsy at the controls? "Pain."I'll see your 1,607 and raise it - what if AOC goes 7-5 to end the season? We end up 8-9 and drafting in the teens and "might" have our QB - do we trust a HC on year 2.5 to be willing to wipe the slate and go all in on a rookie QB? Do we get suckered again into thinking "maybe we already have the guy"? Are we right back where we were last May hoping Penix drops to us again? And THEN how confident can you feel that kid reaches a fraction of his potential if Pierce and Getsy are still at the controls?Harrowing thought No. 1,607 since Pierce took over: If they tank or swoon or, more likely, get coached into oblivion this season and manage a top 10 pick and get their "franchise" quarterback, how confident can you feel that kid reaches a fraction of his potential if Pierce and Getsy are still at the controls?
even that might be pushing it.The Las Vegas Raiders: Commitment to Pretty Solid
I remember AP bragging about how he couldn't keep the players out of the training room , how gung ho they were to get the season started , and im pretty sure they never really rested . Thats how injuries start stacking up, they burnt themselves out IMO ,based on reports .No you're not. You're regressing to the mean. The Raiders were remarkably healthy last year, especially defensively, especially the last half of the year when they played lights out. That was bound to catch up to them sooner or later...in this case sooner.Wilkins on IR.
We are cursed.
they are not tanking and f the steelersThis team tanking or what? lol It's not even week 6 and they're down a ton of starters. Feels like Meyers looked good to go, but guess not.
The.ball.hit.Frenchy.Fuqua!!!they are not tanking and f the steelersThis team tanking or what? lol It's not even week 6 and they're down a ton of starters. Feels like Meyers looked good to go, but guess not.
Which QB are we tanking for?What a dumpster fire.
Don't know, but I fear for whoever it is with Pierce and Getsy.Which QB are we tanking for?What a dumpster fire.
Browns, and it isn't close.No depth
No offense
No QB
Untimely, drive killing turnovers and penalties.
No home field advantage.
I hate that the haters and pundits are always right. But is there a worse team than the Raiders right now?