2024 New York Football Giants (hello darkness my old friend) (2 Viewers)

[Yenrub]

Based on points allowed they expect the Giants defense to be slightly worse than last season 419 to 415 in 2024
I'd bet a lot of money against that ... Giants allowed 24.4 pts per game last season ... i think they will kncok at least 2 pts per game off of that total in 2025

Giants are going to be much better than people expect ... Def and QB play are going to be much better

The Giants offense was #31 last season in scoring with just 16.1 PPG
Russ and the Steelers were #16 with 22.4 PPG

If we meet halfway its 19.2 PPG ... Still low but I think the Giants have more weapons then the 2024 Steelers

Obviously Russ isn’t what he use to be and isn’t a world beater but I expect him make the offense much more competitive than it was last year.

The Giants only had 15 passing TD’s last season (with 13 INT), Russ threw 16 TD (with 5 INT) in 11 games.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Based on points allowed they expect the Giants defense to be slightly worse than last season 419 to 415 in 2024
I'd bet a lot of money against that ... Giants allowed 24.4 pts per game last season ... i think they will kncok at least 2 pts per game off of that total in 2025

Giants are going to be much better than people expect ... Def and QB play are going to be much better

The Giants offense was #31 last season in scoring with just 16.1 PPG
Russ and the Steelers were #16 with 22.4 PPG

If we meet halfway its 19.2 PPG ... Still low but I think the Giants have more weapons then the 2024 Steelers

Obviously Russ isn’t what he use to be and isn’t a world beater but I expect him make the offense much more competitive than it was last year.

The Giants only had 15 passing TD’s last season (with 13 INT), Russ threw 16 TD (with 5 INT) in 11 games.

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

 

[Qammy]

Ok I'll take it​

Dolphins acquiring Giants TE Darren Waller for 2026 sixth-round pick​

Dolphins acquiring Giants TE Darren Waller for 2026 sixth-round pick

 

[RC94]

I find it interesting that Waller is coming out of retirement to play for the Dolphins. The Giants need an established TE too, especially with a 1st round rookie QB, but I guess he didn't want to play for them.

 

[Rubi]

I find it interesting that Waller is coming out of retirement to play for the Dolphins. The Giants need an established TE too, especially with a 1st round rookie QB, but I guess he didn't want to play for them.

Decided to retire during the Buffalo game last year when he was being used more as a blocker than a receiver. So staying with The Giants wasn't an option for him,at least not with Daboll still around.

 

[RC94]

I find it interesting that Waller is coming out of retirement to play for the Dolphins. The Giants need an established TE too, especially with a 1st round rookie QB, but I guess he didn't want to play for them.

Decided to retire during the Buffalo game last year when he was being used more as a blocker than a receiver. So staying with The Giants wasn't an option for him,at least not with Daboll still around.

I know about that, but I find it interesting that they couldn't work anything out. At this point I don't want him anyway. He's a quitter who hasn't been good in 5 years, is old now, and seems to be unwilling to play a major part of being a TE - blocking.

 

[Rubi]

OK die hard G-Men fans. What's your gut feeling about this season? Do you think there's a real chance we can be competative and keep the season interesting into December? Or does your gut tell you it'll be another disaster? Or somewhere in between? I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'll say 60% chance we're watchable into December. 30% chance we're somewhere in between and 10% chance it's another disaster. What say you all?

 

[Qammy]

OK die hard G-Men fans. What's your gut feeling about this season? Do you think there's a real chance we can be competative and keep the season interesting into December? Or does your gut tell you it'll be another disaster? Or somewhere in between? I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'll say 60% chance we're watchable into December. 30% chance we're somewhere in between and 10% chance it's another disaster. What say you all?

I think the Giants are going to way exceed expectations ... It think they will be competitive in almost every game and will pull off a few unexpected wins along the way ...
Of course this is all depending upon being healthy.
I actually think Evan Neal winning the starting job could be the X Factor for getting the Oline to the next level Oline . Neal was easily the best Run Blocking Olineman for the Giants and one of the best of all NFL tackles last season. If Neal wins the G spot, competion at Center with Van Roten and Schmidts will force Schmidts to step it up a level.
I believe Giants were the worst team in the NFL running the ball in the red zone so they clearly needs to be fixed. I would like another big pounding RB, I'm not sold on Scattabo and I'm concerned that he did not step on the field during OTA's and Mini camp. I don't particularly like Tracy or Singletary ... they are OK but not the answer
The Giants were also one of the worst explosive play teams in the NFL last season and Russell Wilson was one of the best explosive play QBs in the NFL
I think Wilson is being way underratted for some reason, as is Jameis as a BU. He's another explosive play guy.
The Defense was one of the worstat creating turnovers in the NFL and they have added a couple of Ball hawks in Holland (S) and Adebo (CB) ... That also makes Banks a #2 CB which will match hime against the 2nd best WRs
They Dline has been signficantly upgraded externally through Free Agency and the Draft . Carter has Micah Parsons potential which would make any defense good but one of the under the radar factors could be the improvement of Thibideaux.
KT looks like he is taking the offseason very serious. He's added size and strength and looks like he is easily in the best shape of his career. I heard him in an interview the other day and seems like he's been hitting the books as well ... very impressed with his football IQ and the techniques that he has been working on

If they didn't have the worst schedule imaginable I would say 9-11 wins and the playoffs but since they do ...
I think they will win 6-9 games

 

[need2know]

OK die hard G-Men fans. What's your gut feeling about this season? Do you think there's a real chance we can be competative and keep the season interesting into December? Or does your gut tell you it'll be another disaster? Or somewhere in between? I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'll say 60% chance we're watchable into December. 30% chance we're somewhere in between and 10% chance it's another disaster. What say you all?

4th place in division

 

[Qammy]

Speaking of Skattebo ... If he is healthy, This is going to be fun !

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[Qammy]

Speaking of Skattebo ... If he is healthy, This is going to be fun !

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Skattebo will be the most popular dog name in NY/NJ ... or Skat n Bo if you have two

 

[Yenrub]

OK die hard G-Men fans. What's your gut feeling about this season? Do you think there's a real chance we can be competative and keep the season interesting into December? Or does your gut tell you it'll be another disaster? Or somewhere in between? I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'll say 60% chance we're watchable into December. 30% chance we're somewhere in between and 10% chance it's another disaster. What say you all?

I think that they will be competitive game to game but I doubt their overall record is going to be impressive. I do think they will top the current Vegas win total of 5.5. Having a capable veteran QB running the offense should mean that they aren’t ranked in the 30’s in total offense. I think they can be mediocre on offense. (It’s really sad but mediocre would be a vast improvement over the last couple of seasons)

I’m really excited to see what this defense can do. On paper that pass rush looks scary! Of course they have to stop the run before they can unleash the pass rush but I’m hopeful. Like Qammy, I like the addition of Holland and Adebo on the back end. Hopefully the light comes on for Banks but the team will have to put him in the right situations. He seems more like a man to man corner, he struggles in zone. Bowen's history is more zone than man so I'm not sure Banks will take that step up.

I stand by my prediction that they are going to steal one of those 1st two road games.

 

[Rubi]

OK die hard G-Men fans. What's your gut feeling about this season? Do you think there's a real chance we can be competative and keep the season interesting into December? Or does your gut tell you it'll be another disaster? Or somewhere in between? I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'll say 60% chance we're watchable into December. 30% chance we're somewhere in between and 10% chance it's another disaster. What say you all?

I think that they will be competitive game to game but I doubt their overall record is going to be impressive. I do think they will top the current Vegas win total of 5.5. Having a capable veteran QB running the offense should mean that they aren’t ranked in the 30’s in total offense. I think they can be mediocre on offense. (It’s really sad but mediocre would be a vast improvement over the last couple of seasons)

I’m really excited to see what this defense can do. On paper that pass rush looks scary! Of course they have to stop the run before they can unleash the pass rush but I’m hopeful. Like Qammy, I like the addition of Holland and Adebo on the back end. Hopefully the light comes on for Banks but the team will have to put him in the right situations. He seems more like a man to man corner, he struggles in zone. Bowen's history is more zone than man so I'm not sure Banks will take that step up.

I stand by my prediction that they are going to steal one of those 1st two road games.

Dallas,they're going to steal the Dallas game. Dak will be on his back all day.

 

[The Frankman]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

I would much prefer Jones to Russ

 

[Yenrub]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

I would much prefer Jones to Russ

I can only think of two things that would make someone take Jones over Russ
Speed and age

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

I would much prefer Jones to Russ

I can only think of two things that would make someone take Jones over Russ
Speed and age

Russ is cooked. He was terrible last year. His big play s mostly came on terrible throws that Pickens covered up

 

[Qammy]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

I would much prefer Jones to Russ

I can only think of two things that would make someone take Jones over Russ
Speed and age

Russ is cooked. He was terrible last year. His big play s mostly came on terrible throws that Pickens covered up

Top 15 QB ... on a team with one of the worst WR groups in the NFL and a bad Oline

 

[The Frankman]

Giants have a more talented O coordinator, and Nabers is a better/less angry Pickens. Not to mention Russ can make an anticipation throw or 50/50 ball, something Jones never grasped how to do in 6 years. I think Giants fans are underestimating how much the offense will open up just because throws will go to pass-catchers who aren't WIDEASS OPEN.

Like, assuming the protection is good... if the WR has a step on the CB/robber is on the other half of the field, the ball is coming out that WR. That's something that hasn't been a thing in half a decade; I know I haven't been on the board much this summer but that's a massive gain that I don't see people talking about. There are hundreds of plays not made/throws not made in Daniel Jones' resume that for a QB is a "take the shot" play.

 

[Rubi]

Russ can throw a rainbow, but that is about it. It also won't be even a little bit accurate. He can use the middle of the field at all. The Giants offense is dead until he is off the field.

Counterpoint:

The Giants' QB last year was Daniel Jones.

I would much prefer Jones to Russ

I can only think of two things that would make someone take Jones over Russ
Speed and age

Russ is cooked. He was terrible last year. His big play s mostly came on terrible throws that Pickens covered up

If that's true then Jaxson will be throwing Darts sooner rather than later