I agree but I wouldnt be mad if wasIn that orderAnother question for my fellow Giants fans.
If the Titans & Browns both take QB's at 1 & 2.
Who do you want the Giants to take at #3?
Carter?
Hunter?
Someone else?
Carter
Hunter
Someone else
Why?
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10.5 mil guaranteed. He's gonna be the starter.21 mil?
There's a lot of different scenerios now ... The worst one is Carter and Hunter going 1 and 2 and now everyone knowsthe Giants wont be drafting a QB so they have no leverageWhy?
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10.5 mil guaranteed. He's gonna be the starter.21 mil?
You guys are forgetting one big thing; this probably assures that they gonna take Travis Hunter at #3. You don't sign two vet QBs who aren't clipboard holders to draft a rookie.
The even more hilarious thing is the franchise that never had a black QB legitimately start for them will now have two to compete against each other.![]()
They would happily draft Ward at three, Wilson/Winston wouldn’t change that.There's a lot of different scenerios now ... The worst one is Carter and Hunter going 1 and 2 and now everyone knowsthe Giants wont be drafting a QB so they have no leverageWhy?
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10.5 mil guaranteed. He's gonna be the starter.21 mil?
You guys are forgetting one big thing; this probably assures that they gonna take Travis Hunter at #3. You don't sign two vet QBs who aren't clipboard holders to draft a rookie.
The even more hilarious thing is the franchise that never had a black QB legitimately start for them will now have two to compete against each other.![]()
Trade down and get at least another 1st for next year.Another question for my fellow Giants fans.
If the Titans & Browns both take QB's at 1 & 2.
Who do you want the Giants to take at #3?
Carter?
Hunter?
Someone else?
I wouldn't be surprised if NE trades up to #2 to grab Hunter.Like bringing in Wilson a lot. Wilson>>>Winston, and it allows them to get Travis Hunter or trade down. If Hunter goes #2, I wonder if they'd take Carter with Burns/Thibodeaux at EDGE already. Personally, I think Carter projects to be better than either of them, and Thibodeaux is somewhat expendable in my opinion, but maybe they feel different.
ETA: If the Browns stupidly take Sanders at #2, the trade down market should be pretty high, but its also a draft with only 2 really elite prospects, and they'd both be there.
I'd be pretty surprised if NE traded up. I don't really think they have a preference between Hunter and Carter.I wouldn't be surprised if NE trades up to #2 to grab Hunter.Like bringing in Wilson a lot. Wilson>>>Winston, and it allows them to get Travis Hunter or trade down. If Hunter goes #2, I wonder if they'd take Carter with Burns/Thibodeaux at EDGE already. Personally, I think Carter projects to be better than either of them, and Thibodeaux is somewhat expendable in my opinion, but maybe they feel different.
ETA: If the Browns stupidly take Sanders at #2, the trade down market should be pretty high, but its also a draft with only 2 really elite prospects, and they'd both be there.
The Browns would be assuming the Giants aren't going to take Sanders at #3, so they would feel comfortable moving down (If Sanders is who they want)
I think its more why should we assume NYG have any interest in Sanders at all? I don't know maybe its just my personal feelings on Sanders, but I think this talk of him going #2 or #3 feels like a media creation, and he's in serious danger of being a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. Same with Dart but even lower.Why do you guys assume they won't take Sanders with Wilson on a one-year deal for $20M? If you think Sanders is the future, you pick him now. You won't be in a position next year to draft a QB with Wilson and Winston probably getting you to six wins.
I don't see why you'd trade down out of Hunter or Carter also. If the next draft class is weak, what's an extra one in the mid-first or later part of the round?
Seeing weird stuff in this thread. There's nothing to suggest you won't still draft Sanders if available. What are you going to do? Draft another EDGE in the long line of EDGEs. How many EDGEs does one man need? There is no real trade market for Thibodeaux (cat's out of the bag), so . . . yeah.
Hunter is the guy you could really use and there isn't a player like him next year.
I think its more why should we assume NYG have any interest in Sanders at all?
I'd be pretty surprised if NE traded up. I don't really think they have a preference between Hunter and Carter.
Couldn't we also argue they were scouting Hunter?I think its more why should we assume NYG have any interest in Sanders at all?
Smoke and fire. Perhaps they were just doing due diligence, but they sent a scout team to each of Sanders's games this year,
What long line of Edges are you talking about?Why do you guys assume they won't take Sanders with Wilson on a one-year deal for $20M? If you think Sanders is the future, you pick him now. You won't be in a position next year to draft a QB with Wilson and Winston probably getting you to six wins.
I don't see why you'd trade down out of Hunter or Carter also. If the next draft class is weak, what's an extra one in the mid-first or later part of the round?
Seeing weird stuff in this thread. There's nothing to suggest you won't still draft Sanders if available. What are you going to do? Draft another EDGE in the long line of EDGEs. How many EDGEs does one man need? There is no real trade market for Thibodeaux (cat's out of the bag), so . . . yeah.
Hunter is the guy you could really use and there isn't a player like him next year.
The Giants have Zero depth at Edge and if there is no trade market for Thibodeaux they don't even have two solid Edges
Couldn't we also argue they were scouting Hunter?I think its more why should we assume NYG have any interest in Sanders at all?
Smoke and fire. Perhaps they were just doing due diligence, but they sent a scout team to each of Sanders's games this year,
I think its more why should we assume NYG have any interest in Sanders at all?
Smoke and fire. Perhaps they were just doing due diligence, but they sent a scout team to each of Sanders's games this year, will meet with him on a visit, etc. Seems like a lot of tea leaf readers have Sanders falling no further than the Giants if Tennessee takes Ward.
If you don't like a guy's game, you don't generally do that.
I'd be pretty surprised if NE traded up. I don't really think they have a preference between Hunter and Carter.
I think there's a clear #1 positional player in the draft and that it's Hunter. As all the football heads are getting their evaluations in, they've got him as the overall best receiver in the bunch and he's a great corner, too. Another EDGE happens every year. I remember when Chase Young went over Justin Herbert. The Commanders took years to recover from that. He was supposed to be everything and turned out mediocre. Always the quarterback or skill position player if it's a toss-up. Look no further than Kayvon Thibodeaux for a stiff antidote to EDGE fever.
NE especially needs a receiver. They cannot, for the life of them, attract one in free agency. So it's draft one or bust. Forget Diggs. They need a true number one. Hunter is the guy for them. They've got Keion White and Milton Williams on the line to hold the fort. Anfernee Jennings can play run defense. They just signed Landry to be an EDGE at a pretty penny.
Receiver. Need it. Book it.
I agree that this signing doesn’t assure the Giants will take Sanders at 3.Why do you guys assume they won't take Sanders with Wilson on a one-year deal for $20M? If you think Sanders is the future, you pick him now. You won't be in a position next year to draft a QB with Wilson and Winston probably getting you to six wins.
I don't see why you'd trade down out of Hunter or Carter also. If the next draft class is weak, what's an extra one in the mid-first or later part of the round?
Seeing weird stuff in this thread. There's nothing to suggest you won't still draft Sanders if available. What are you going to do? Draft another EDGE in the long line of EDGEs. How many EDGEs does one man need? There is no real trade market for Thibodeaux (cat's out of the bag), so . . . yeah.
Hunter is the guy you could really use and there isn't a player like him next year.
A. Reach for Jaxon Dart at #3
B. Trade assets to move up so that they can take Sanders
I disagree. If Ward and Sanders are there at #3 there will be calls from qb needy teams behind The Giants. They would have a lot of leverageThere's a lot of different scenerios now ... The worst one is Carter and Hunter going 1 and 2 and now everyone knowsthe Giants wont be drafting a QB so they have no leverageWhy?
QB controversy?![]()
10.5 mil guaranteed. He's gonna be the starter.21 mil?
You guys are forgetting one big thing; this probably assures that they gonna take Travis Hunter at #3. You don't sign two vet QBs who aren't clipboard holders to draft a rookie.
The even more hilarious thing is the franchise that never had a black QB legitimately start for them will now have two to compete against each other.![]()
Personally I would go Ward, Hunter, trade down, Carter in that order.So let's try to forget it's Joe Schoen making the pick at #3
Who do YOU want?
Sanders/Ward?
Hunter?
Carter?
Trade down for more draft capital?
Ok ... The Long line of Edges starts and ends with Brian BurnsThe Giants have Zero depth at Edge and if there is no trade market for Thibodeaux they don't even have two solid Edges
Brian Burns went where in the conversation? You missed a $141,000,000M dollar guy?
Could you imagine the **** Show that would come with having this group together ... What could possibly go wrong?I don't think a 1-year $10.5MM deal to Wilson and a 1-year $4MM deal to Jamies prevents them from taking Sanders
Thinking about this more and more, while it doesn't prevent it, I think it happening signals that won't be what happens.I don't think a 1-year $10.5MM deal to Wilson and a 1-year $4MM deal to Jamies prevents them from taking Sanders
At this point, I think Ward to the Titans can be written in pen. I think ideally you are praying the Browns take Sanders at #2, though I would bet against that.Personally I would go Ward, Hunter, trade down, Carter in that order.So let's try to forget it's Joe Schoen making the pick at #3
Who do YOU want?
Sanders/Ward?
Hunter?
Carter?
Trade down for more draft capital?
Travis Hunter is a great pick regardless of what position you play him. Jackson Dart has the best PR / hype team. I don't see him being a first rounder. He could be this drafts Malik Willis overhyped to throw teams off their real pick.So a lot of the recent mocks have The Giants taking Travis Hunter then trading up and taking Jackson Dart around pick 18
What do we think of this?
Rather have them roll the dice with Milroe in the 2nd, although I won’t be surprised if someone takes him in the first.So a lot of the recent mocks have The Giants taking Travis Hunter then trading up and taking Jackson Dart around pick 18
What do we think of this?
I'm here as well. I don't get picking him at 3 if you're the Giants, especially if you think he's a WR first and foremost. Two top 6 picks in back to back years and you use them both on receivers? Is the occasional rep on D worth that sort of investment?I'm getting a jack of all trades but master of none feeling about Hunter
For Sure ... Milroe has the highest ceiling and best physical qualities (see Lamar Jackson)Rather have them roll the dice with Milroe in the 2nd, although I won’t be surprised if someone takes him in the first.So a lot of the recent mocks have The Giants taking Travis Hunter then trading up and taking Jackson Dart around pick 18
What do we think of this?
Some people are saying that Hunter may be the Best WR and Best CB prospect in the draftI'm getting a jack of all trades but master of none feeling about Hunter. What he did in college was incredible, but I'm having a hard time seeing him be a part time contributor as a DB so if they want to primarily play him at WR, IMO he will pretty much just be a WR. He can play some WR if he's a CB, but I don't think he's an elite CB. I don't think he's going to be some dominant player. I think he's very good at both positions, but at the 1.03 I think I'd prefer a specialist like Carter who can be truly great at the position he plays.
I'd really prefer they trade down. I think they need as much additional premium draft capital that they can get since they have so many needs and some of them can be filled with very good players later in the 1st (DT and O-line in particular). I want them to take a QB in the late 1st or in the 2nd, but IMO the 2nd best QB in this draft is Shough. I'd rather they get him over Sanders or Dart.
I know, but not everyone agrees on him. I think it would be a waste to take a WR in the top 6 two years in a row. Their WRs are better than people recognize IMO and even with Wilson or Winston they will show improvement over what Daniel "deer in headlights" Jones offered them. I would be ok with them adding another CB later in the draft, but since they spent fairly big money on improving the DBs in free agency and they have drafted 7 DBs in the last 3 years, I don't think taking a CB is the best use of 1.03.Some people are saying that Hunter may be the Best WR and Best CB prospect in the draftI'm getting a jack of all trades but master of none feeling about Hunter. What he did in college was incredible, but I'm having a hard time seeing him be a part time contributor as a DB so if they want to primarily play him at WR, IMO he will pretty much just be a WR. He can play some WR if he's a CB, but I don't think he's an elite CB. I don't think he's going to be some dominant player. I think he's very good at both positions, but at the 1.03 I think I'd prefer a specialist like Carter who can be truly great at the position he plays.
I'd really prefer they trade down. I think they need as much additional premium draft capital that they can get since they have so many needs and some of them can be filled with very good players later in the 1st (DT and O-line in particular). I want them to take a QB in the late 1st or in the 2nd, but IMO the 2nd best QB in this draft is Shough. I'd rather they get him over Sanders or Dart.
I wouldn't mind if they took a big nasty Olineman in the 1st rd every yearI know, but not everyone agrees on him. I think it would be a waste to take a WR in the top 6 two years in a row. Their WRs are better than people recognize IMO and even with Wilson or Winston they will show improvement over what Daniel "deer in headlights" Jones offered them. I would be ok with them adding another CB later in the draft, but since they spent fairly big money on improving the DBs in free agency and they have drafted 7 DBs in the last 3 years, I don't think taking a CB is the best use of 1.03.Some people are saying that Hunter may be the Best WR and Best CB prospect in the draftI'm getting a jack of all trades but master of none feeling about Hunter. What he did in college was incredible, but I'm having a hard time seeing him be a part time contributor as a DB so if they want to primarily play him at WR, IMO he will pretty much just be a WR. He can play some WR if he's a CB, but I don't think he's an elite CB. I don't think he's going to be some dominant player. I think he's very good at both positions, but at the 1.03 I think I'd prefer a specialist like Carter who can be truly great at the position he plays.
I'd really prefer they trade down. I think they need as much additional premium draft capital that they can get since they have so many needs and some of them can be filled with very good players later in the 1st (DT and O-line in particular). I want them to take a QB in the late 1st or in the 2nd, but IMO the 2nd best QB in this draft is Shough. I'd rather they get him over Sanders or Dart.
I really want OL. John Michael Schmitz, Evan Neal, Joshua Ezeudu, and Marcus McKethan are the only O-linemen Schoen has drafted despite it being a constant problem. All he's really done is throw low level vets at the problem. There are some good O-linemen in this draft, but it would be worth trading down to get them.
This. Until it finally gets fixed. And then some more to get back ups. I am so very tired of having crappy o-lines. All this talk of QBs and WRs just frustrates me. Until the QB can protected, it just doesn't matter. Hell, we just need to go back one game... what did Mahomes look like when his OLine was getting manhandled? If he can't look good under that kinda duress, what hope does any other QB have.? The Giants QBs have been under that kinda duress for 10+ years now.I wouldn't mind if they took a big nasty Olineman in the 1st rd every year
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If Hunter is the pick, I think they would make him primarily a DB with a handful of offenseive packages. Banks has been a dissapointment at CB thus far.I'm here as well. I don't get picking him at 3 if you're the Giants, especially if you think he's a WR first and foremost. Two top 6 picks in back to back years and you use them both on receivers? Is the occasional rep on D worth that sort of investment?I'm getting a jack of all trades but master of none feeling about Hunter
They should defo trade that pick I think, if it goes Ward - Carter to start.