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[Bigboy10182000]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

 

[Deamon]

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I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

It’s actually shocking to have had the OC we had last year, replace him with Moore and go “meh”!

The passing game is absolutely pathetic. Take off the homer glasses.

we didn't really need to pass that much. 2 dropped passes away from 16-1.

That's the thing about co-ordinators... if you don't have gripes with them, they're probably pretty good. The relief of not having a totally incompetent OC is invaluable. So many bad/inexperienced ones out there.

 

[Deamon]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

lol if we didn't have Barkley, our passing numbers would be WAY up. What are you missing here?

 

[Deamon]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

haha ya, this.

 

[need2know]

Wow vikings getting blownout

 

[Deamon]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

competent OC's with experience are hard to find. They usually get HC jobs.

I'd say the list of bad OC's is bigger than the list of good ones. Many of the good teams with high power offenses, have their HC calling their plays/designing their offenses.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

 

[Deamon]

Wow vikings getting blownout

Ya, I regret wanting the Rams to win.

Now I REALLY want the Vikings to win lol

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

How does winning, controlling games while putting up the 7th most points in the league using your best players make you a good OC? There’s a lot of competent OC’s who have done that? Like who? I feel like you’re making it a negative that he has good players to use.

If he goes off to be a HC fine but we’d be left with a big hole to fill. It could be a Brian Johnson we fill his shoes with. He has experience now, maybe he’s competent now

Also, when you see Hurts improve on completion percentage, TD%, INT, INT%, yards per attempt, rating, QBR, NY/A and air yards from 2023 to 2024 while being on position to be 16-1 how can you say it got worse? Please be specific.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Wow vikings getting blownout

Ya, I regret wanting the Rams to win.

Now I REALLY want the Vikings to win lol

Sam Darnold really **** the bed. Like REALLY BAD

 

[Deamon]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

And which of these would become available and looking for another OC job next year??? And what makes you automatically think WE would land the 1 or 2 that might be?

Kellen has been awesome, even the players have been outspoken about how much more creative their offense has been this year.

 

[Deamon]

Also, when you see Hurts improve on completion percentage, TD%, INT, INT%, yards per attempt, rating, QBR, NY/A and air yards from 2023 to 2024 while being on position to be 16-1 how can you say it got worse? Please be specific.

Yep, and imagine how many passing yards we would be piling up if we didn't have Barkley and weren't controlling games/were playing from behind.

The analysis that he's not a great OC because our passing numbers are low, when we had the #2 rushing offense in the league this year... is wild.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So winner of rams Vikings. Who we want

I think it will be Vikings. Either is fine. Vikings have a way better D though. Jefferson still does scare me. They'd be harder.

I think you guys have your answer (based on the first half of this game). But it looks like the Vikings would have been the easier matchup with Darnold having turned back into a pumpkin.

 

[Terpman22]

Was hoping for the Rams. Have them cross the country after a win “not at home” - we can beat them.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

And which of these would become available and looking for another OC job next year??? And what makes you automatically think WE would land the 1 or 2 that might be?

Kellen has been awesome, even the players have been outspoken about how much more creative their offense has been this year.

He hasn't been awesome, he's been competent.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

competent OC's with experience are hard to find. They usually get HC jobs.

I'd say the list of bad OC's is bigger than the list of good ones. Many of the good teams with high power offenses, have their HC calling their plays/designing their offenses.

Exactly the point I was driving towards. We can all Google best OC’s and starting firing off names. No one is watching any of their plays to know if they’re competent at all. You got one now who you can measure with the talent you have. Thats a good thing.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Was hoping for the Rams. Have them cross the country after a win “not at home” - we can beat them.

Me too, the Eagles will run all over the Rams. I posted in the DET/MIN game thread that the loser of that game was cooked and would be one and done in the playoffs. Hard to lose an emotional game and then come back the next week, on the road and win.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

And which of these would become available and looking for another OC job next year??? And what makes you automatically think WE would land the 1 or 2 that might be?

Kellen has been awesome, even the players have been outspoken about how much more creative their offense has been this year.

He hasn't been awesome, he's been competent.

We’ll just agree to disagree.

 

[Deamon]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

And which of these would become available and looking for another OC job next year??? And what makes you automatically think WE would land the 1 or 2 that might be?

Kellen has been awesome, even the players have been outspoken about how much more creative their offense has been this year.

He hasn't been awesome, he's been competent.

I would say it's awesome to have a competent OC. Not many teams have competent OC's that actually call the plays, and lead their team to a top 8 offense in the entire NFL, despite having lots of missed games by your star offensive players.

 

[need2know]

Wow vikings getting blownout

Ya, I regret wanting the Rams to win.

Now I REALLY want the Vikings to win lol

I dont think its that big a deal. Minn oline imploding and darnold turned back.into a pumpkin. Their defense also been exposed.
Not too mention its VERY minnesota to have a great regular season and lose the first playoff game. Should have seen it coming

 

[Snotbubbles]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

competent OC's with experience are hard to find. They usually get HC jobs.

I'd say the list of bad OC's is bigger than the list of good ones. Many of the good teams with high power offenses, have their HC calling their plays/designing their offenses.

Exactly the point I was driving towards. We can all Google best OC’s and starting firing off names. No one is watching any of their plays to know if they’re competent at all. You got one now who you can measure with the talent you have. Thats a good thing.

I watched a ton of Penn State football. Kotelnicki has a run based offense, would be a perfect fit for OC. He molds his offensive gameplan to his personnel.

 

[renesauz]

I'm mildly concerned that Hurts is playing a bit too conservative. SLiding down in the backfield instead of throwing it away, NEVER seems to attempt any tight window throws. It has worked behind a dominant run game and defense. CAn he be more aggressive when he needs to be? I'm still remembering one WOW throw after another 2 years ago. There haven't been many of those this year (there hasn't been a lot of need for them either to be fair)

This is where Philly fans start to bother me a bit. I’d like to think we know what Hurts is and what he isn’t. Why do we want him putting the ball in harms way?!

The strengths of this team are what? Where does Hurts fall on the list? He’s behind the defense, OL, RB and WR’s. Play to your strengths and enjoy the wins no matter how ugly they are. Use the “wow throws” and pick and choose when to be aggressive.

Wasn't a true complaint. The concern is can he turn it up when he needs to? He hasn't really needed to this year. NOt really a bad thing

 

[The Noid]

Wow vikings getting blownout

Need them to at least do something that keeps LA having to play their starters the full game.

 

[DJackson10]

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

It’s actually shocking to have had the OC we had last year, replace him with Moore and go “meh”!

The passing game is absolutely pathetic. Take off the homer glasses.

Maybe we should start blaming the guy throwing the ball than the OC though.

 

[Insein]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

I get it, but how does that make Kellen Moore a good OC. If all he's doing is calling RPOs and hand-offs to Barkley. Like I said above, any competent OC with experience can do that. I couldn't care less if he goes to Dallas.

competent OC's with experience are hard to find. They usually get HC jobs.

I'd say the list of bad OC's is bigger than the list of good ones. Many of the good teams with high power offenses, have their HC calling their plays/designing their offenses.

Exactly the point I was driving towards. We can all Google best OC’s and starting firing off names. No one is watching any of their plays to know if they’re competent at all. You got one now who you can measure with the talent you have. Thats a good thing.

I watched a ton of Penn State football. Kotelnicki has a run based offense, would be a perfect fit for OC. He molds his offensive gameplan to his personnel.

He seems to be staying at PSU

 

[renesauz]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

I wonder if Brian Johnson is available.

The Eagles only scored 30 more points this season than last season.

With:

- a good defense keeping them out of shootouts
- a tougher schedule
- our best WR, TE, and QB all each missing multiple games
- not playing the starters the final week

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

No, the improvement was we went from a change of pace back getting our carries to a bona fide stud RB getting our carries. The passing game is absolutely pathetic this season and has taken a step backward.

we have struggled with co-ordinators a lot over the years. Always tough in your first year with a team too. To see what he's done in year 1 here has been just awesome.

Curious who you think would be as good. Would be a massive loss, and I think you'll realize how good he was as soon as he's gone.

It hasn't been awesome, there is no reason a team like the Washington Commanders should score more points than the Eagles. Our passing offense is bottom 3 in the league. We got lucky that Howie had the foresight to sign Barkley because this offense would be in deep doo doo if we were using a Swift/Gainwell RBBC.

This may be a crazy thought, but hear me out. Maybe, just maybe, the passing offense isn’t being used as much because our run game is awesome, our defense controls games and we don’t need to throw. Does that make sense?

definately a huge part of it. My concern was what happens when that isn't enough and Jalen has to throw 30 times for 250 and 3? All year he's been conservative and (usualyl) only throwing to wide open players. It's worked, not knocking it...but we might need more against Detroit

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

It’s actually shocking to have had the OC we had last year, replace him with Moore and go “meh”!

The passing game is absolutely pathetic. Take off the homer glasses.

Maybe we should start blaming the guy throwing the ball than the OC though.

Sure, maybe the coaches should, I don't know, coach. Fangio is coaching guys up on the other side.

 

[DJackson10]

Kellen Moore expected to be "deeply in the mix" to become Cowboys next HC, per @NickHarrisFWST

Honestly, Kellen Moore has been the most "meh" OC. Nothing creative about anything he does.

Man I hope this is sarcasm lol

Not at all. We won't miss him as an OC if he leaves.

Call me old fashioned but I’m a big fan of having a top 7 offense, playing to your strengths (run the ball crowd), not turning the ball over and getting better as the season goes on. If that’s “meh” and the only two examples are Andy Reid and Ben Johnson I’d be pissed if he left. You literally named no one who could replace him that’s available.

If his offensive system is hand the ball off to Saquon and have AJ and DeVonta win 1 on 1 battles, then he isn't really a big loss if he leaves. You could literally replace him with anyone. What exactly does he bring to the table?

So is Ben Johnson’s system just use his best players too? Should be easy to replace in Detroit.

You have a full season of seeing Moore. Two good play calls and drops away from being 16-1. Gimme these great OC’s you’re so high on that we can replace him with.

Was gonna address the latest post but Daemon already did.

Vic Fangio has been great. Kellen Moore has been passable. Calling run plays isn't something I'm going to praise, most of the poster on this board would give Saquon 20+ carries a game too.

Gimme the great OC’s you want.

That's a logical fallacy. The argument is that losing Moore isn't that big of a deal, literally any competent OC with experience could put together and call a game and do just as well as he has done with the weapons we have. If anything, this offense has under-achieved under Moore. A great OC, might even get Hurts to make progressions in his passing and decision-making, he hasn't done that under Moore.

Buddy, losing Moore and replacing him with Brian Johnson isn’t that big of a deal? Saying losing someone isn’t that big a deal without mentioning a replacement is a child’s argument.

Im open to accepting losing him is no big deal but that’s just a part of the equation. Right now you have given me Andy Reid and Ben Johnson. I’ll concede that Reid will be an upgrade at OC. Unsure about Johnson though. So who else ya got? Sounds like no one.

Todd Monken, Kliff Kingsbury, Liam Coen, Joe Brady, Will Stein, Mike Denbrock, Andy Kotelnicki, Mike Bobo, Dirk Koetter

Any one of these guys could call RPOs and hand-offs to Saquon. Happy?

Klingsbury is a glorified college coach at best. Joe Brady and Tod monken are the only guys here I’d take.

I love burying James Franklin as much as the next guy but AK is calling the plays at PSU and would go away a lot from what was working on offense. As bad as Allar is as a QB his OC wasn’t helping at times either

 

[DJackson10]

I'd say that's a pretty good improvement. If you can't see the improvement in scheming, play calling, and offensive movement/creativity, then I dunno what to tell you. He's been great.

It’s actually shocking to have had the OC we had last year, replace him with Moore and go “meh”!

The passing game is absolutely pathetic. Take off the homer glasses.

Maybe we should start blaming the guy throwing the ball than the OC though.

Sure, maybe the coaches should, I don't know, coach. Fangio is coaching guys up on the other side.

I’m just saying like I said at the start. When is it on the players and not the coaches. It’s obvious Hurts can’t read a pre or post snap defense at this point. He also forces stuff to AJ when not there to keep him from crying when other guys are open. AJ people will be defended by fans but he misses blocks and takes plays off and Nick should be doing something about it.

Firing OCs every year is no different than the flyers changing coaches. It can’t always be an OCs fault. Eventually players need to be held accountable

 

[DJackson10]

Minny is getting smoked. Every year this happens. I see this younger guy in my store every Sunday with his Vikings gear on (theilan jersey) with his SO in her Eagles gear. Wonder if I’ll be seeing that Vikings gear on him after tonight

 

[DJackson10]

Either way Moore probably isn’t leaving for Dallas unless there were huge changes of heart. From people I talked to with the Eagles today, Moore left Dallas on such poor terms when McCarthy was hired. Moore was dragged through the mud and blamed for everything wrong on Offebse and the Dal fans ate it up like gospel truth.

This was more or less a really bad break up when Kellen left. It was so bad he had a few of his coaching buddies around the league reach out and see how he was holding up.

Name I keep getting repeated to me by people more in the know is Deion Prime Time Sander's is the lead horse for the Job. If Deion plans to stay at Col then things could change. None of his kids will be there either so the time for him to leave COL is now

 

[Deamon]

when you see Hurts improve on completion percentage, TD%, INT, INT%, yards per attempt, rating, QBR, NY/A and air yards from 2023 to 2024 while being on position to be 16-1

Maybe we should start blaming the guy throwing the ball than the OC though.

 

[Insein]

Last time we played the LA Rams in the playoffs was 1989. I remember that being one of my first Eagles moments of frustration and futility. Randall had a bad day.

 

[jon007]

I'm hoping for a wet field. The Rams d-line is fast. Rams get a short week plus extra travel. I think they start out strong but will they hold up for 4 quarters.

 

[need2know]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

 

[Insein]

There are really no excuses if we lose. We have every advantage possible. Just have to go do it.

 

[Terpman22]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

Yeah, we should dominate them in the trenches on both sides. Saw this AM that their Tight End was also hospitalized due to a chest injury. Short week, cross country travel. No reason we should lose this game other than being sloppy and unprepared.

 

[need2know]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

Yeah, we should dominate them in the trenches on both sides. Saw this AM that their Tight End was also hospitalized due to a chest injury. Short week, cross country travel. No reason we should lose this game other than being sloppy and unprepared.

Higbee?

 

[Terpman22]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

Yeah, we should dominate them in the trenches on both sides. Saw this AM that their Tight End was also hospitalized due to a chest injury. Short week, cross country travel. No reason we should lose this game other than being sloppy and unprepared.

Higbee?

Yes, the name was lost on me. Chest injury.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

DeVonta didn't even play in the first game.

 

[jasvic]

Last time we played the LA Rams in the playoffs was 1989. I remember that being one of my first Eagles moments of frustration and futility. Randall had a bad day.

Previous year was the fog bowl. That's when I got my introduction to Eagles pain.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

And we were missing Smith, Slay and Goedert in that one.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

And we were missing Smith, Slay and Goedert in that one.

Goedert played. He had 4 catches for 19 yards.

We won't have Dean this time though.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

And we were missing Smith, Slay and Goedert in that one.

Goedert played. He had 4 catches for 19 yards.

We won't have Dean this time though.

Hmmm maybe he was hurt the following week.

Either way I was good with facing them or Minnesota. I’m not looking too much into their game last night. They beat a dead dog at home.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Both our lines are better. And our secondary should hold up well. Barkely ran for like 255 last time vs them. It might be ugly again but we match up pretty damn well with them. Add in its at home and not in a dome. I dunno you do the math

And we were missing Smith, Slay and Goedert in that one.

Goedert played. He had 4 catches for 19 yards.

We won't have Dean this time though.

Hmmm maybe he was hurt the following week.

Either way I was good with facing them or Minnesota. I’m not looking too much into their game last night. They beat a dead dog at home.

I posted in that game day thread, road favorites in the wildcard round were 3-11-2 ATS (now 3-12-2) since 2014. Also, that loss to Detroit not only provided a game plan to attack the Vikes, but it was also a huge deflator. I expect the Eagles to roll on Sunday. The Rams just matchup poorly against the Eagles.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Jalen Hurts -- last 5 postseason games

96-for-143 (67.1%), 960 yards, 6 TD, 0 INT, 100.0 rating

11 total TD, 0 INT during stretch

 

[need2know]

Jalen Hurts -- last 5 postseason games

96-for-143 (67.1%), 960 yards, 6 TD, 0 INT, 100.0 rating

11 total TD, 0 INT during stretch

hes so due for a turnover.

 

[Terpman22]

Jalen Hurts -- last 5 postseason games

96-for-143 (67.1%), 960 yards, 6 TD, 0 INT, 100.0 rating

11 total TD, 0 INT during stretch

hes so due for a turnover.

Yeah he had a major fumble in the Super Bowl. This is just INTs

 

[Insein]

Last time we played the LA Rams in the playoffs was 1989. I remember that being one of my first Eagles moments of frustration and futility. Randall had a bad day.

Previous year was the fog bowl. That's when I got my introduction to Eagles pain.

I watched that as well but I was 7 and didn't understand what was happening.