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*** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: one and done again. (6 Viewers)

So much focus on the offense, yet it's the defense that absolutely gets stomped on every single playoff game. The fact the plays haven't changed in the past 18 seasons tells us all we need to know.

“I’m just doing what the game plan asked for,” said Watt when asked about his role and why the run defense faltered in a big way. “That’s all I’ll say.”​


This same D gameplan was giving up over 350 yards and 30+ pts even when Ben was here for playoff games.
Similar quotes the last 5 weeks. I think austin is toast.
 
So much focus on the offense, yet it's the defense that absolutely gets stomped on every single playoff game. The fact the plays haven't changed in the past 18 seasons tells us all we need to know.

“I’m just doing what the game plan asked for,” said Watt when asked about his role and why the run defense faltered in a big way. “That’s all I’ll say.”​


This same D gameplan was giving up over 350 yards and 30+ pts even when Ben was here for playoff games.
Absolute trainwreck of an organization, pathetic.
 
So much focus on the offense, yet it's the defense that absolutely gets stomped on every single playoff game. The fact the plays haven't changed in the past 18 seasons tells us all we need to know.

“I’m just doing what the game plan asked for,” said Watt when asked about his role and why the run defense faltered in a big way. “That’s all I’ll say.”​


This same D gameplan was giving up over 350 yards and 30+ pts even when Ben was here for playoff games.
Absolute trainwreck of an organization, pathetic.
Tomlin will fire Teryl Austin and another defensive coach, and put Arthur Smith on notice (if he doesn't get another job), and that will their changes.

Just wish we had 6 Danny Smith's on that staff.
 
Yes this year's scapegoat will be Austin.
I know he is a #4 WR that they are trying to be use as a #2 WR, but I just don't see him as someone who should be guaranteed at having a roster spot next season. He has what, 2 big plays all season?
He has been a disappointment in my eyes.
He was referring to the D coordinator (not the receiver).
Oh why I should probably scrolled up... Thought it was odd, that someone would think 3'11 Calvin Austin could be the scapegoat.

But since we are on the subject of Calvin Austin, I am not a Calvin Austin fan. I don't even think it's because of him. Mainly due to our fan base thinking he is something that he is not. I was ready to kick him out last offseason, and am again. I just don't think he is good enough to be in the role Pittsburgh wants him to be.

In terms of Teryl Austin, I gave my thought. Tomlin will fire him and some other low level D coach and call it a day and everyone will change their tune on Tomlin. We been on this road before. Main ore of Steeler fans are so stickle.
 
So much focus on the offense, yet it's the defense that absolutely gets stomped on every single playoff game. The fact the plays haven't changed in the past 18 seasons tells us all we need to know.

“I’m just doing what the game plan asked for,” said Watt when asked about his role and why the run defense faltered in a big way. “That’s all I’ll say.”​


This same D gameplan was giving up over 350 yards and 30+ pts even when Ben was here for playoff games.
Absolute trainwreck of an organization, pathetic.
Tomlin will fire Teryl Austin and another defensive coach, and put Arthur Smith on notice (if he doesn't get another job), and that will their changes.

Just wish we had 6 Danny Smith's on that staff.
Danny Smith was not revered early in Pittsburgh or when he coached in Washington. The Steelers have invested in special teams players because it was such a disaster for a few years, and then our ST improved greatly. (Also, hope we keep Corliss, he did great this year)

The main difference is that DS is making the most of what he's got and it feels like Arthur Smith and Teryl Austin are not. The floundering defense and the weird usage of Mike Williams/George Pickens vs Pruitt/Jefferson/4th & 5th string WRs just felt like mismanagement.
 
So much focus on the offense, yet it's the defense that absolutely gets stomped on every single playoff game. The fact the plays haven't changed in the past 18 seasons tells us all we need to know.

“I’m just doing what the game plan asked for,” said Watt when asked about his role and why the run defense faltered in a big way. “That’s all I’ll say.”​


This same D gameplan was giving up over 350 yards and 30+ pts even when Ben was here for playoff games.
Absolute trainwreck of an organization, pathetic.
Tomlin will fire Teryl Austin and another defensive coach, and put Arthur Smith on notice (if he doesn't get another job), and that will their changes.

Just wish we had 6 Danny Smith's on that staff.
Danny Smith was not revered early in Pittsburgh or when he coached in Washington. The Steelers have invested in special teams players because it was such a disaster for a few years, and then our ST improved greatly. (Also, hope we keep Corliss, he did great this year)

The main difference is that DS is making the most of what he's got and it feels like Arthur Smith and Teryl Austin are not. The floundering defense and the weird usage of Mike Williams/George Pickens vs Pruitt/Jefferson/4th & 5th string WRs just felt like mismanagement.

Yea, like WHY RUN A FLEA FLICKER WITHOUT PICKENS????????
 
I don't think you need to look any further than the talent on this team. Tomlin can be blamed for their lack of success to the amount he influenced these picks.

First Round Draft Picks
  • 2024 - Fautanu - Injured
  • 2023 - Jones - Jury is out but not looking good.
  • 2022 - Pickett - Bust
  • 2021 - Najee - Ok, but wasted pick
  • 2020 - Traded for Minka
  • 2019 - Bush - Bust
  • 2018 - Edmunds - Bust
  • 2017 - Watt - Stud
  • 2016 - Burns - Bust
  • 2015 - Dupree - Ok
  • 2014 - Shazier - Injured
  • 2013 - Jones - Bust
 
I don't think you need to look any further than the talent on this team. Tomlin can be blamed for their lack of success to the amount he influenced these picks.

First Round Draft Picks
  • 2024 - Fautanu - Injured
  • 2023 - Jones - Jury is out but not looking good.
  • 2022 - Pickett - Bust
  • 2021 - Najee - Ok, but wasted pick
  • 2020 - Traded for Minka
  • 2019 - Bush - Bust
  • 2018 - Edmunds - Bust
  • 2017 - Watt - Stud
  • 2016 - Burns - Bust
  • 2015 - Dupree - Ok
  • 2014 - Shazier - Injured
  • 2013 - Jones - Bust

Yes, this is bad. Said when we took Pickett, that the selection set us back 5 years potentially, and that seems true now.
 
I don't think you need to look any further than the talent on this team. Tomlin can be blamed for their lack of success to the amount he influenced these picks.

First Round Draft Picks
  • 2024 - Fautanu - Injured
  • 2023 - Jones - Jury is out but not looking good.
  • 2022 - Pickett - Bust
  • 2021 - Najee - Ok, but wasted pick
  • 2020 - Traded for Minka
  • 2019 - Bush - Bust
  • 2018 - Edmunds - Bust
  • 2017 - Watt - Stud
  • 2016 - Burns - Bust
  • 2015 - Dupree - Ok
  • 2014 - Shazier - Injured
  • 2013 - Jones - Bust

Yes, this is bad. Said when we took Pickett, that the selection set us back 5 years potentially, and that seems true now.
i hated the Pickett choice and said it loudly when it happened and ever since. That said, when I think of "setting the franchise back 5 years" I think you need to clarify what that means. I know we are all sick of the one and done playoff performances but when I think of a team that has been set back I am thinking of a bottom dweller for a period of time. The Steelers are slightly above mediocre but they aren't that.

Also while I agree the list above ain't great, Omar Khan is only responsible for two of them and those two drafts, taken as a whole, are pretty decent.
 
Pickett was bad, Bush was bad, Burns, Jarvis Jones, Edmunds....all bad first rd picks. I know they wont all be stars, but to swing and miss that bigly 5 first rd picks over like 10 yrs is bad. Now Najee will be gone, Brod Jones looks iffy, its not a good recent track record. And that special WR they would always add in the mid/late rounds is over.
Their roster management, even Rex Ryan said its a JV roster, along with awful offensive game planning, has put them in this place.
And they will invest more in defense. I can see DL and CB first 2 picks of draft.
Fields, Wilson, Rodgers, Darnold.....why would Tee Higgins come to play for that, when he can stay in Cincy or maybe go to NE, have a good QB, and maybe lose $1-2M on a $25M a year contract?
 
I don't think you need to look any further than the talent on this team. Tomlin can be blamed for their lack of success to the amount he influenced these picks.

First Round Draft Picks
  • 2024 - Fautanu - Injured
  • 2023 - Jones - Jury is out but not looking good.
  • 2022 - Pickett - Bust
  • 2021 - Najee - Ok, but wasted pick
  • 2020 - Traded for Minka
  • 2019 - Bush - Bust
  • 2018 - Edmunds - Bust
  • 2017 - Watt - Stud
  • 2016 - Burns - Bust
  • 2015 - Dupree - Ok
  • 2014 - Shazier - Injured
  • 2013 - Jones - Bust

Yes, this is bad. Said when we took Pickett, that the selection set us back 5 years potentially, and that seems true now.
i hated the Pickett choice and said it loudly when it happened and ever since. That said, when I think of "setting the franchise back 5 years" I think you need to clarify what that means. I know we are all sick of the one and done playoff performances but when I think of a team that has been set back I am thinking of a bottom dweller for a period of time. The Steelers are slightly above mediocre but they aren't that.

Also while I agree the list above ain't great, Omar Khan is only responsible for two of them and those two drafts, taken as a whole, are pretty decent.
My point is that I think Tomlin has done a pretty good job of winning more with less. There comes a point (the last 5 games) that the other teams are just significantly more talented. Sure, there are games they SHOULD win but don't, but you can say that about every team in the NFL.
 
why would Tee Higgins come to play for that, when he can stay in Cincy or maybe go to NE, have a good QB, and maybe lose $1-2M on a $25M a year contract?

not saying Higgins would be interested in coming to the Steelers but the answer to your question is $. The Bengals aren’t known for lavish contracts and if Higgins can make more money somewhere else he’s going to do just that.

Also I am wondering who the Patriots good QB is?
 
Tomlin with a lot of positive things to say about Fields -- including that he showed enough to begin in the pole position as a 17-game starter next season (subject to QBs available in free agency, draft etc.)
 
Tomlin with a lot of positive things to say about Fields -- including that he showed enough to begin in the pole position as a 17-game starter next season (subject to QBs available in free agency, draft etc.)

The standard is the standard. Ugh!

You prefer Donald or Rodgers, or QBs drafted above their grade?

I think specifically designing an O around Fields could be hugely beneficial.
 
Tomlin with a lot of positive things to say about Fields -- including that he showed enough to begin in the pole position as a 17-game starter next season (subject to QBs available in free agency, draft etc.)

The standard is the standard. Ugh!

You prefer Donald or Rodgers, or QBs drafted above their grade?

I think specifically designing an O around Fields could be hugely beneficial.

I'm not much of a Russell Wilson fan, but it was clear he was the better QB imo. I don't have a lot of hope they'll specifically design anything for Fields. They'll be predictable (in different ways), beat up on bad teams, lose 2 to teams they shouldn't. Win 9 games and just miss the playoffs.

I'm ok keeping Fields if the price is low, but he's not the answer. And they don't have the offensive mind to make any 2nd rate QB the answer. Tomlin won't allow it.
 
Tomlin with a lot of positive things to say about Fields -- including that he showed enough to begin in the pole position as a 17-game starter next season (subject to QBs available in free agency, draft etc.)

The standard is the standard. Ugh!

You prefer Donald or Rodgers, or QBs drafted above their grade?

I think specifically designing an O around Fields could be hugely beneficial.
I think it would have been this year instead of forcing Fields into the type of offense Smith was brought in for.

Making the switch to Russ was applauded at the time and maybe it won an extra game or two. But in the end, I would rather have had them see what they had in Fields instead of stalling his development.
 
Tomlin with a lot of positive things to say about Fields -- including that he showed enough to begin in the pole position as a 17-game starter next season (subject to QBs available in free agency, draft etc.)

The standard is the standard. Ugh!

You prefer Donald or Rodgers, or QBs drafted above their grade?

I think specifically designing an O around Fields could be hugely beneficial.
I think it would have been this year instead of forcing Fields into the type of offense Smith was brought in for.

Making the switch to Russ was applauded at the time and maybe it won an extra game or two. But in the end, I would rather have had them see what they had in Fields instead of stalling his development.

I heard Tomlin say a few times again today about QB mobility and designed runs being important in today's NFL. This was not in context related to Fields -- more in general -- which makes me think Fields is coming back with some tweaks to the scheme and Fields being more comfortable in the system as well.
 
Pay whomever comes cheaper or find another for cheap elsewhere, then take a draft shot day 3 with someone because none of them are worth a day 1 or 2 pick.

Team is going nowhere far anyways no matter which QB they keep or find in a dumpster somewhere else.
 
Take a day 3 draft shot if one of these should fall there,

Gabriel, Howard, McCord, Dart

If not, then wait for 2026 QB draft which will be a better one in my opinion.
 
Reading the tea leaves. Initially the Steelers wanted JF to backup and learn from RW. JF was improving. Steelers went 4-2 with JF and made the switch to RW. RW, along with both the offense, defense and coaching regressed. Steelers showed no life in the first half with the Ravens.

Steelers will not go after Aaron Rodgers he's older than mummy dust, he's divisive, wants his way and the Jets haven't received playoff capital with him.

Sam Darnold will have a number of teams interested in him including the Vikings who can franchise him. I 'd hope that the Steelers pass on him.

QB mobility is huge in the NFL. We all know that JF is one of the best mobile QBs in the league. Coming into this season the knock on him and RW was they were slow in their progressions, hold onto the ball too long and JF needed to have better touch on passing the ball.

If you have a QB over 35 that guy better get playoff wins and more. Otherwise your just wasting a spot. With RW he was pennies on the dollar so you can justify easily why the Steelers s signed him.

My dream QBs for next year as long as they don't break the bank. JF and Daniel Jones. You don't have to change the game plan much for their both mobile QBs. If Daniel Jones doesn't show value you get rid of him. But he deserves a second chance due to the Giants being a horrible franchise top to bottom.
 
Take a day 3 draft shot if one of these should fall there,

Gabriel, Howard, McCord, Dart

If not, then wait for 2026 QB draft which will be a better one in my opinion.
Jaxson Dart I like. Can extend plays and I think he had the highest completion rate of all QB. Strong arm and nice touch.

Was hoping Beck would come out instead of hit the transfer portal. Down year was more Georgia issues and an injury. Thought he could slip to us.
 
Take a day 3 draft shot if one of these should fall there,

Gabriel, Howard, McCord, Dart

If not, then wait for 2026 QB draft which will be a better one in my opinion.
Jaxson Dart I like. Can extend plays and I think he had the highest completion rate of all QB. Strong arm and nice touch.

Was hoping Beck would come out instead of hit the transfer portal. Down year was more Georgia issues and an injury. Thought he could slip to us.
I like Dart as well
 
Raiders interviewing Sheldon White. If they hire him at GM we get 2 3rd round picks! Fingers crossed. He was with us since 2022 so just over 2 years, right in line with the requirements.
 
Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.
Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.
They might be. Might be close to it. But they're talented enough to be a 10 win team that's the least talented team in the playoffs. That's basically been the goal of the team for the past decade, and that's the style of team Tomlin coaches.

Wilson was going to be good enough to help the team win 9 or 10 games. Fields might not have been, but neither was going to lead this team to playoff success.

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy. There's a reason why the Steelers have been outscored in their last 6 or 7 playoff games in the first quarter by a combined score of 80-0.

The fact that the Steelers were a 10 win team is a testament to their coaching, not their talent. They aren't winning games in spite of their coach, they win them because of him.

I agree with you about the QBs. I said the same thing about the QB situation in the thread talking about whether Tomlin should have gone to Wilson. Neither guy is good enough to win you a Superbowl.
That's simply incorrect. They had 10-win team talent, especially with their defense and their early schedule as it was. They didn't win any games they shouldn't have won this year, but they lost games where they played flat against the Browns and a home game against the Cowboys. Happens every year.

They ended on a 5 game losing streak. OK, whatever, right? In 5 of the past 7 years, the Steelers have lost at least 3 games in December. When most good teams are improving and gearing up for the playoffs, the Steelers fade almost every year. This has been a problem for a long time, but people who only read headlines and listen to national media just have no clue.

Disagree. They beat the Ravens who are clearly a more talented team. Winning at Washington, now in hindsight was a game they could have/should have lost but didn't. Chargers were a nice win. Apart from Denver, I think Pittsburgh was the least talented team in this years playoffs.
They've beaten Baltimore regularly for the past 5 years no matter who's been at QB. Old Ben beat them, Rudolph beat them, Pickett beat them. It's the nature of the rivalry, so to split with Baltimore was expected. And they didn't win that game because of anything other than a good enough defensive performance, Boswell being a stud, and Tucker missing multiple kicks.

The win in Washington wasn't flukey either. They have enough talent to beat teams like them, especially in the first half of the year. The losses to the Cowboys, Colts, and Browns? Those were ugly but predictable... happens every year.

The Steelers were likely the least talented team in the playoffs on the offensive side. Definitely not on the defensive side of the ball or on special teams though. They deserved to be a 10 win team and had the talent to be a 10 win team, but that gets you nowhere in the playoffs when teams have more dynamic and innovative offensive philosophies and aren't stuck trying to pretend what won in the 90's will still win today.
But you don't give Tomlin credit for beating the ravens consistently over the past 5 years? He's the big constant over the past 5.
 
Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.
Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.
They might be. Might be close to it. But they're talented enough to be a 10 win team that's the least talented team in the playoffs. That's basically been the goal of the team for the past decade, and that's the style of team Tomlin coaches.

Wilson was going to be good enough to help the team win 9 or 10 games. Fields might not have been, but neither was going to lead this team to playoff success.

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy. There's a reason why the Steelers have been outscored in their last 6 or 7 playoff games in the first quarter by a combined score of 80-0.

The fact that the Steelers were a 10 win team is a testament to their coaching, not their talent. They aren't winning games in spite of their coach, they win them because of him.

I agree with you about the QBs. I said the same thing about the QB situation in the thread talking about whether Tomlin should have gone to Wilson. Neither guy is good enough to win you a Superbowl.
That's simply incorrect. They had 10-win team talent, especially with their defense and their early schedule as it was. They didn't win any games they shouldn't have won this year, but they lost games where they played flat against the Browns and a home game against the Cowboys. Happens every year.

They ended on a 5 game losing streak. OK, whatever, right? In 5 of the past 7 years, the Steelers have lost at least 3 games in December. When most good teams are improving and gearing up for the playoffs, the Steelers fade almost every year. This has been a problem for a long time, but people who only read headlines and listen to national media just have no clue.

Disagree. They beat the Ravens who are clearly a more talented team. Winning at Washington, now in hindsight was a game they could have/should have lost but didn't. Chargers were a nice win. Apart from Denver, I think Pittsburgh was the least talented team in this years playoffs.
They've beaten Baltimore regularly for the past 5 years no matter who's been at QB. Old Ben beat them, Rudolph beat them, Pickett beat them. It's the nature of the rivalry, so to split with Baltimore was expected. And they didn't win that game because of anything other than a good enough defensive performance, Boswell being a stud, and Tucker missing multiple kicks.

The win in Washington wasn't flukey either. They have enough talent to beat teams like them, especially in the first half of the year. The losses to the Cowboys, Colts, and Browns? Those were ugly but predictable... happens every year.

The Steelers were likely the least talented team in the playoffs on the offensive side. Definitely not on the defensive side of the ball or on special teams though. They deserved to be a 10 win team and had the talent to be a 10 win team, but that gets you nowhere in the playoffs when teams have more dynamic and innovative offensive philosophies and aren't stuck trying to pretend what won in the 90's will still win today.
But you don't give Tomlin credit for beating the ravens consistently over the past 5 years? He's the big constant over the past 5.
Awesome, they've beaten the Ravens in the regular season in a heated rivalry game. They were close matchups until the 2nd and 3rd ones this year where the Ravens won by a combined 31 points. Thats OK though, Ravens were the bettee team. Steelers fans were more upset about HOW they lost.

Those wins havn't helped them much, and they've lost way more games they should've won than the other way around.
 
Steelers fans were more upset about HOW they lost
This is the key for what those not emotionally invested in the team are not understanding.

Seems like a lot of focus on this all being about a QB and that's not really supported. This has probably been said multiple times in this thread when Ben was still playing at an elite level or at minimum had an elite level performance in the playoff game this team has lost to the likes of Tebow, Bortles, Flacco and Browns era Baker.

If the Steelers were losing these games by scores of like 20-17 or even like 20-10 it would still stink but it would be way more palatable because it's easy to see the limitations the offense has, especially in the post elite Big Ben era, and we'd see a team that does what it's paid to do do relatively ok, which is play strong defense. But the damning thing about it all is the strength of the team is the defense, the money is in the defense, Tomlin has his fingers all in the defense and that defense has given up 38.3 points in their last 6 playoff games with Baltimores 28 the low and they could have scored more if they wanted to. That's whats so hard to take and I truly can say with any confidence that any QB the Steelers had under center would have changed the outcome of those 6 games especially when you consider the only game that was really very close was the game were Ben threw for about 469 yards with 5 TD's.
 
Below is an example of what the outsiders don’t see or recall about Tomlin. Now I know this is just one example but we as Steelers fans can pretty much unanimously agree that Tomlin has never been a good in game manager.

Playoff game against Cleveland about 4 years ago. Steelers had come back from being down 28-0 (and I believe 35-10) to make the score 35-23 with the 3rd quarter coming to a close. Steelers had the ball 4th and 1 at midfield and rather than doing the no brainer and going for it, he attempts to draw Cleveland offsides and actually takes the false start penalty! He then makes the decision to punt! This decision effectively ended the season for them.

Same thing this past Saturday against Baltimore when he punted on 4th and an inch.

In playoff games against good teams, this is why I’m confident he won’t win another superbowl.
 
Below is an example of what the outsiders don’t see or recall about Tomlin. Now I know this is just one example but we as Steelers fans can pretty much unanimously agree that Tomlin has never been a good in game manager.

Playoff game against Cleveland about 4 years ago. Steelers had come back from being down 28-0 (and I believe 35-10) to make the score 35-23 with the 3rd quarter coming to a close. Steelers had the ball 4th and 1 at midfield and rather than doing the no brainer and going for it, he attempts to draw Cleveland offsides and actually takes the false start penalty! He then makes the decision to punt! This decision effectively ended the season for them.

Same thing this past Saturday against Baltimore when he punted on 4th and an inch.

In playoff games against good teams, this is why I’m confident he won’t win another superbowl.

He's a coward.
 
Again, the 2017 roster was loaded on both sides of the ball and they were down at home 28-7 late in the first half, (familiar playoff theme of slow starts). Second half was Ben trying all he could to bring them back but the D kept getting stomped on, (another familiar playoff theme).

For those outsiders who obviously don't follow this team your opinion is based on the current roster and QB, and I get the point with the way it appears on the surface. The rest of us know the playoff failures have been relevant for a long time even when they definitely had a roster on both sides of the ball with a HOF QB.

Something with their approach needs to be altered or the results will be the same every year.
 
Again, the 2017 roster was loaded on both sides of the ball and they were down at home 28-7 late in the first half, (familiar playoff theme of slow starts). Second half was Ben trying all he could to bring them back but the D kept getting stomped on, (another familiar playoff theme).

For those outsiders who obviously don't follow this team your opinion is based on the current roster and QB, and I get the point with the way it appears on the surface. The rest of us know the playoff failures have been relevant for a long time even when they definitely had a roster on both sides of the ball with a HOF QB.

Something with their approach needs to be altered or the results will be the same every year.

In complete fairness to Tomlin, that first half against Jax had a lot to do with Ben’s mistakes putting them in that position. But still Tomlin did not do a good job.
 
Again, the 2017 roster was loaded on both sides of the ball and they were down at home 28-7 late in the first half, (familiar playoff theme of slow starts). Second half was Ben trying all he could to bring them back but the D kept getting stomped on, (another familiar playoff theme).

For those outsiders who obviously don't follow this team your opinion is based on the current roster and QB, and I get the point with the way it appears on the surface. The rest of us know the playoff failures have been relevant for a long time even when they definitely had a roster on both sides of the ball with a HOF QB.

Something with their approach needs to be altered or the results will be the same every year.

In complete fairness to Tomlin, that first half against Jax had a lot to do with Ben’s mistakes putting them in that position. But still Tomlin did not do a good job.
Yup, mistakes happen sometimes but that vaunted D couldn't stop anything.

Jags drove down 66 yds easily to open the game 7-0. Scored on 1 play after the pick 14-0. Drove down again 75 yds easily to make it 21-0. Fumble for a score happened when Villanueva was beaten soundly. They were only down by 7 in the 3rd when the Jags marched down another long drive for a score. Ben brings them back again to within 7 in the 4th and the D bends over for the 4th long TD drive of the day. Defense was putrid.

Even if you take the quick score after INT and fumble, they still put up 31 easily against the #5 ranked D loaded with stars. Steeler offense putting up 42 and 545 yards should have been much more than enough to win.
 
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Anyway it all doesn't matter, he's here to stay as long as he wants. Been saying it for years now.

Some more word salad will come and he'll have fans believing again for next season.
 
2024 Draft Picks
  • 1 (20): T Troy Fautanu, Washington.
  • 2 (51): C Zach Frazier, West Virginia.
  • 3 (84): WR Roman Wilson, Michigan.
  • 3 (97): LB Payton Wilson, NC State.
  • 4 (119): G Mason McCormick, South Dakota State.
  • 6 (178): DI Logan Lee, Iowa.
  • 6 (195): CB Ryan Watts, Texas.
Still have a feel good vibe after selecting 3 OL in 2024. Frazier improved the center position day one. McCormick did a nice job for a rookie who was supposed to be a backup. Fautanu could be an outstanding guard if we don’t need him at tackle. Jones (2023) was a project at tackle and appeared to play injured this season. Coming up on year 3, he should finally develop enough technique to match his athleticism. Big year for him coming up.

Maybe this offseason we learn more about why Roman Wilson failed to get action despite the lack of talent in the WR room. That’s a blood red flag 🚩

Payton Wilson made an impact and flashed at times. Playoff clunker, I noticed him making plays. Looks like a nice pick.

2025 Draft Steelers pick 21. Would be nice to see more young talent infused on the defensive side. WR room and possible RB shakeup might prevent that.
 
I'm a big fan of Tomlin, but at this point it's unreasonable to just flat out arrogant to not make a change not only at HC, but to blow it all up. PIT moret han likely will not develop a franchise QB under Tomlin going forward, Tomlin's Super Bowl window as an HC there has been shuttered by nail guns and cement, and he's really only saved by the state of the AFCN, with the Haslam's and Brown being incompetent owners. If you don't have a QB going into his 19th season, you might as well let him go.
 

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