karl.Racki
Footballguy
Dude they Hada winning season.. They will resign Wilson 2-3 years at 20M a year.. They will have the same staff next season,
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*** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: one and done again. (4 Viewers)
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irish eyes
Footballguy
You're probably right, and the misery will continue.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Idiots on reddit think Steelers will sign Darnold this off season LOL
Steelers WR core is abysmal. GP is not a true WR1. He only has 3 TDs.
Sam Darnold will resign or be franchised by the Vikings. Granted he's had a great year. But he's never had talent like Jefferson, Hockenson, Addison, Jones etc
If Mike Tomlin brings back RW it will be another slow bleed season. Eventually Tomlin will not be the head coach. Could take years from now and/or when he retires
Sam Darnold will resign or be franchised by the Vikings. Granted he's had a great year. But he's never had talent like Jefferson, Hockenson, Addison, Jones etc
If Mike Tomlin brings back RW it will be another slow bleed season. Eventually Tomlin will not be the head coach. Could take years from now and/or when he retires
Blick
Footballguy
There are no playmakers. Pickens cannot separate. Every play is contested. Mike Williams was toast years ago. Van and Austin are #4s at best. Muth is arguably there best past catcher and he’s far from elite.
Combine that with a struggling line and the best QBs would look bad. And Wilson is far from “best”.
Combine that with a struggling line and the best QBs would look bad. And Wilson is far from “best”.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Even if they did, the odds of Darnold in Pittsburgh looking anything close to what he has looked like this year are slim to none.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Multi year deal for a starting QB will cost well above 20 mil. The current cheapest is Geno Smith who signed in 2023 for 25 per.
You're looking at 30+ minimum for anyone signed as a starter, even for someone like Wilson.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The offense is so abysmal I would just go with the cheapest option for QB next season and get a higher draft pick for 2026
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Not playing porter on chase until higgins got hurt was a huge mistake.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
The FO loves Russ.. He also has been vocal and wanting to return.
Forget about JF.. They went stale on him. If JF was getting snaps, I would think they may resign him, but he sits on the bench and at times all by himself. He is def gone this off season.
The only guys available in FA are players like Flacco, Jimmy G, Lock, Brisket, Winston, Lock, or Dobbs.. Steelers are too stubborn to sign a QB and basically lose to rebuild.
I much rather they draft or do that and sign a guy like Tee. They need a playmaker so bad.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
I don't think Cory Trice played bad TBH.. Chase is a elite WR for a reason.. Trice got burnt a few times, but her did well at controlling big plays from Chase... Porter would have been a nightmare and would have been called for pent after pent on Chase.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Some Steeler fans thinking Darnold comes here to fix this mess are funny. They seem to misunderstand that his turn around is due to having an offensive minded QB-friendly coach in KOC plus one of the best WR duos around in JJ and Addison.
If he goes to the Steelers you'll see the NYJ version.
If he goes to the Steelers you'll see the NYJ version.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Try to sign someone as a bridge QB and head back into the draft for another one on day 2 or 3. None of them are worth a day 1 pick.
3C's
Footballguy
I wouldn't even bother with anything other than a solid backup QB in this draft.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
It is a weak QB draft, that's why at best I would wait.
The WR corps is probably the worst in the league. Van Jefferson should not be a pro, period. There is no true #2. I had high hopes for Roman Wilson but he didn't play a snap this year. I will push back about Pickens not being a true WR#1. He could and should be a top 10 NFL wide receiver. He has freakish skills. It's the pitiful play calling that is limiting his numbers. I've been yelling at anyone within earshot and at my TV all year for the Steelers to throw him one deep ball every quarter. He has incredible hands and he's gonna draw pass interference penalties too. At most, we get one deep ball per game.
Tomlin is going nowhere unless and until he decides to leave.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
It seemed like a total failure yesterday. Players and coaches. Yet they still had a winnable game.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Holding the Bengals under 20 isn’t horrible but the defense had a hard time getting off the field.
The offense and special teams sucked. The playcalling left a lot to be desired
The offense and special teams sucked. The playcalling left a lot to be desired
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I hope we play the ravens. Either we get crushed and there’s changes or we actually get pumped for the game and are familiar with preparation and can win.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
This is what they should have done the year they drafted Pickett. They didn't then, they won't now either. Ownership has never shown a willingness to go that far to this point, I can't imagine coming off 10 wins will make them do an about face.
Bottom line is pretty much that an organization would have to be okay with giving up revenues they'd garner from making the playoffs, as well as taking a hit to their pride/marketing/etc., if they straight up opted-in to "suck for a top draft choice to hopefully land a franchise QB the following year." That doesn't sound like anything most owners (and certainly not the Rooneys) are going to be on board with, regardless if it's a viable plan of action or not.
They absolutely need to dispense with the "dinosaur ball" mentality though. Over the course of this season they have proven pretty plainly that it can't beat the conference's best QBs with any kind of consistency.
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
The Steelers sent a clear message when they extended Tomlin. Mediocrity is acceptable as long as they can win enough in the regular season to keep the glorious, meaningless streak alive. He represents everything wrong with the Steelers right now - living off a media driven narrative that was earned a long time ago but hasn't been accurate for a while. Another year, another second half collapse when the well coached teams are gearing up for the playoffs.
Russ was never going to be the QB of a real contender, and allowing Tomlin to hire a guy like Smith to run the offense and promoting Austin to run the defense said they're content with the status quo. Could've tried to keep Flores. They're going to waste Watt's career and I see no indication that anything about their philosophy will change after this season.
Russ was never going to be the QB of a real contender, and allowing Tomlin to hire a guy like Smith to run the offense and promoting Austin to run the defense said they're content with the status quo. Could've tried to keep Flores. They're going to waste Watt's career and I see no indication that anything about their philosophy will change after this season.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers play Saturday Night @ 8 PM in Baltimore
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The sad thing is that even if the Steelers win the turnover battle, they still have no shot at winning. That’s how bad the offense is. And the coordinator and coaches don’t have even an iota of innovation in their game planning.
This. I told my wife that we need +2 turnovers to have a chance. And to the earlier post, I think the line needs to be above 7. I’m assuming 7.5 at least.
McBokonon
Footballguy
It’s -9.5
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Ridicoulus.. So many better games to feature at night.. Steelers offense is trash and they will be blown out. Should have been the MNF game or 1PM Sunday
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
We say this every year. Nothing changes. Rinse and repeat.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
There is no way I could root for the Ravens to hand the Steelers an embarrassing playoff loss.
Ever.
It may very well happen but even if it does I don't see any major changes except for firing a coordinator.
Instead I’ll root for a miracle
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ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Guessing Amazon had the first pick, plus you figure with both teams playing this past Saturday they would put them on Saturday again.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
There is no way Arthur Smith is leaving unless it's on his own as a HC somewhere. I think the Steelers will bring back Fields. Not sure if Russ as well, but could be both. This draft and FA class are terrible for QB.
We have been down 2 starting Olinemen for the whole season - really 3 if your counted Herbig. Russ has been running for his life and WRs are not getting open or dropping passes. Russ did make some mistakes of late too. But we potentially win that Eagles game if Harris doesn't fumble a toss (we toss too much), this Bengals game was winnable -- same with the Browns. I don't think we are as good as we looked earlier in the season, but we aren't this bad either. And despite KC beating us handily and Buffalo being good, I don't think those teams are unbeatable. I am glad we got the Ravens -- a road win against them could propel this team forward. Just need to stay healthy.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’m excited that we have a playoff game but I see this ending the same as it has every year for this team. I don’t think there is a single area where we match up well against the Ravens. How do we even exploit them when we have nothing on offense? Their D is also playing at a much higher level than earlier in the year. Unfortunately I think this game will be over by around the middle of the 3rd quarter (at the latest).
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
They need to bench him today if they want to win. I really doubt he takes that little and I hope Pittsburgh isn't dumb enough to give him that much. He is not really the problem, but he certainly isn't the solution. He is old enough that it will only go down from here.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I like Darnold, but he would be a terrible fit.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
WR is the problem. Next to QB it is the most important position in the NFL and Pittsburgh is the worst by miles.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I actually think they win. It is the Ravens
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Unless Allar changes his mind I don't think there is a decent starter in the group.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Russ has been awful for over a month but not even Mahomes or prime Brady would perform well under these circumstances. The offensive line should improve next year but they’re not good enough right now. A team that always seems to do well at the receiver position had no plan for it this year.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I agree. It is really hard to say Smith is the issue. They don't have weapons on offense.
I think the line is actually much better than given credit for, especially considering the injuries they have had. Jones has been terrible, but better in the 2nd half. It takes time to develop at T. I expect him to be better next year.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Khan had a plan he just failed miserably.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Agreed. I think it is Fields next year and seeing if he is an answer or not.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Yes and no. And Moore got crushed yesterday, but they didn't help him with scheme.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
They never do. I don't understand why they never give him help. He is a solid LT. That is way undervalued. I really hope they bring him back.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Apparently McCormick broke his hand.
Steeler
Footballguy
This has been evident for a while, but it came to mind last night while watching the MIN/DET game. THE DET offense puts alot of pressure on the other team's offense as well as the opponent's defense. MIN was 0 for 2 on 4th and goal in the first half of the game because they anticipated needed many TDs to keep pace. The NFL has changed from the 70s, you need an offensive minded coach on offense to put pressure on the other team. The chance of winning a SB with a good D and mediocre O is pretty slim in 2025.
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