*** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: one and done again. (15 Viewers)

[Steelers4Life]

There's a thread out there saying Tomlin should be fired, and I've posted in that one many, many times going back multiple years. Been ridiculed by plenty of people who say it's crazy to think Tomlin is the problem. He is, and he has been for a while now.

It's a trend. Im tired of the national media fawning over the guy when the Steelers have been an afterthought for over a decade now. Why, because theyre competitive in the regular season and he's great at spouting off clichés while saying nothing? It's ridiculous.

But, hes not going anywhere and the team will continue to hire assistant coaches who'll stick with some misguided idea about what Steelers football is. And the results aren't going to change until Tomlin decides to walk away.

I have no faith that the Steelers are going to fix their problems before next season. I expect more of the same.

 

[karl.Racki]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson
QB Justin Fields
RB Najee Harris
OT Dan Moore Jr
CB Donte Jackson
WR Mike Williams
WR Van Jefferson
LB Elandon Roberts
G James Daniels
S Damontae Kazee
TE MyCole Pruitt
CB Cameron Sutton
CB C.J. Henderson
G Nate Herbig

 

[Steelers4Life]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson
QB Justin Fields
RB Najee Harris
OT Dan Moore Jr
CB Donte Jackson
WR Mike Williams
WR Van Jefferson
LB Elandon Roberts
G James Daniels
S Damontae Kazee
TE MyCole Pruitt
CB Cameron Sutton
CB C.J. Henderson
G Nate Herbig

Theres no one on that last who Id be dissapointed to lose.

Actually liked what I saw of Williams, and I wish we'd have seen Fields more.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson - re-signs
QB Justin Fields - waks
RB Najee Harris - walks
OT Dan Moore Jr - walks
CB Donte Jackson - I think the team would like to keep him
WR Mike Williams - I think the team would like to keep him
WR Van Jefferson - walks
LB Elandon Roberts - cant recall age. Gut sez re-signs
G James Daniels - 50/50. Injury clouds it.
S Damontae Kazee - re-signs
TE MyCole Pruitt - dont care
CB Cameron Sutton - walks
CB C.J. Henderson - who?
G Nate Herbig - walks

 

[irish eyes]

There's a thread out there saying Tomlin should be fired, and I've posted in that one many, many times going back multiple years. Been ridiculed by plenty of people who say it's crazy to think Tomlin is the problem. He is, and he has been for a while now.

It's a trend. Im tired of the national media fawning over the guy when the Steelers have been an afterthought for over a decade now. Why, because theyre competitive in the regular season and he's great at spouting off clichés while saying nothing? It's ridiculous.

But, hes not going anywhere and the team will continue to hire assistant coaches who'll stick with some misguided idea about what Steelers football is. And the results aren't going to change until Tomlin decides to walk away.

I have no faith that the Steelers are going to fix their problems before next season. I expect more of the same.

Same **** different year. A once proud franchise is now held hostage until this dope decides to leave.

 

[karl.Racki]

I see alot of people saying signing Fields should be their #1 thing this offseason, but if you are Fields do you even wanna come back? He was treated pretty poorly by Tomlin and Smith.

 

[irish eyes]

I see alot of people saying signing Fields should be their #1 thing this offseason, but if you are Fields do you even wanna come back? He was treated pretty poorly by Tomlin and Smith.

Not sure why he would come back to this pile of crap.

 

[karl.Racki]

George Pickens on the Steelers offense: Yeah I’ve seen signs of growth for sure
Reporter: Does that make you optimistic going forward?
George Pickens: Nah.

x.com

x.com

 

[fred_1_15301]

George Pickens on the Steelers offense: Yeah I’ve seen signs of growth for sure
Reporter: Does that make you optimistic going forward?
George Pickens: Nah.

x.com

x.com

The team is a mess in so many areas but Pickens is part of the problem. Honestly he’s a one trick pony diva receiver. He’s not in top tier like AB was. No clue where they go from here but it’s hard to be excited for next year. Watt still without a playoff win (no fault of his own).

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Tough one last night, fellas. I've been where Steelers fans are this morning too many times in this rivalry to not know what you're feeling.

At halftime, I thought "this is gonna be 38-0" but Pittsburgh showed some fight in the 2nd half.

 

[3C's]

Hopefully they can find a trade partner for Pickens to get some draft picks.

 

[Grahamburn]

What could Pittsburgh get for Tomlin?

 

[Da Guru]

There's a thread out there saying Tomlin should be fired, and I've posted in that one many, many times going back multiple years. Been ridiculed by plenty of people who say it's crazy to think Tomlin is the problem. He is, and he has been for a while now.

It's a trend. Im tired of the national media fawning over the guy when the Steelers have been an afterthought for over a decade now. Why, because theyre competitive in the regular season and he's great at spouting off clichés while saying nothing? It's ridiculous.

But, hes not going anywhere and the team will continue to hire assistant coaches who'll stick with some misguided idea about what Steelers football is. And the results aren't going to change until Tomlin decides to walk away.

I have no faith that the Steelers are going to fix their problems before next season. I expect more of the same.

Yesterday the announcers must have said 3-4 times "The Steelers look lethargic" "The Steelers are not playing with any energy" This is a Saturday night playoff game why is that the case?

A number of things. Mike Tomlin is a good HC but maybe he has been in one place too long and needs a fresh start, change of scenery because even Tomlin does not look the same on the sidelines. Tomlin would get another HC job right away even if he has not been good as of late. Big Ben was stable at QB and able to mask some problems, they have not had that since he left.

2. Russell Wilson was good in Seattle when they had the Sherman, Lynch, LOB and a bunch of strong leaders who brought it every game. Wilson can`t be the leader. Then the best WR in Pickens look totally disinterested most of the time, like he does not want to be there, or anywhere really. Puzzling as to why a young guy making good money looks so unhappy all the time.

Watt still brings the intensity but one guy can`t do it in football, 3-4 guys can`t do it.

If an old Wilson is playing in front of a young Fields that tells me all I need to know about Fields. Fields can run for sure, but he struggles with the rest of the QB game.

 

[Godsbrother]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson
QB Justin Fields
RB Najee Harris
OT Dan Moore Jr
CB Donte Jackson
WR Mike Williams
WR Van Jefferson
LB Elandon Roberts
G James Daniels
S Damontae Kazee
TE MyCole Pruitt
CB Cameron Sutton
CB C.J. Henderson
G Nate Herbig

That’s a pretty ugly list. I don’t see any single player that should be a priority to sign

 

[karl.Racki]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson
QB Justin Fields
RB Najee Harris
OT Dan Moore Jr
CB Donte Jackson
WR Mike Williams
WR Van Jefferson
LB Elandon Roberts
G James Daniels
S Damontae Kazee
TE MyCole Pruitt
CB Cameron Sutton
CB C.J. Henderson
G Nate Herbig

That’s a pretty ugly list. I don’t see any single player that should be a priority to sign

Russ will be the one they sign. If they cant get Rodgers.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Here is the scary thing: since the Steelers lost in the Super Bowl following the 2010 season, they have three playoff wins. Three. And they came against A.J. McCarron (the game where Burfict imploded and blew a game where it looked like the Bengals had it all but won), Matt Moore and Alex Smith.

They have zero playoff wins in their last eight seasons.

 

[sm8680]

Frank Michael Smith has a pretty good video I know it's 4 months old and has been posted before. However, It's pretty relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDSmWBOilcM

 

[sm8680]

Steelers won't sign Rodgers he's 41 and there's a better chance that no one signs Aaron. Going from RW who's old to AR whose mummified old isn't happening.

More realistic moves that won't happen. I'd prefer the Steeler's trade for J. J. McCarthy. Trade up in the draft if there's a go getem QB in this draft. This year is considered a down year for QBs in the draft. I wouldn't bring back RW. I'd let Justin Fields battle it out with Daniel Jones.

 

[The_Man]

Not sure if there’s a single Steelers offensive player who would be a starter for the Ravens

Maybe Pickens over Bateman, though Ravens probably wouldn’t make that trade. Is Friermuth better than Likely? They’re pretty comparable

 

[3C's]

Who resigns or walks...

QB Russell Wilson
QB Justin Fields
RB Najee Harris
OT Dan Moore Jr
CB Donte Jackson
WR Mike Williams
WR Van Jefferson
LB Elandon Roberts
G James Daniels
S Damontae Kazee
TE MyCole Pruitt
CB Cameron Sutton
CB C.J. Henderson
G Nate Herbig

Contrary to popular belief, Dan Moore is "ok" and likely gets a decent contract somewhere. James Daniels is worth keeping for the right price. Would like to keep Fields for the right price as a "bridge" to something else. Donte Jackson is better than the alternative but he can be replaced. pretty much it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It seems like the D gave up weeks ago and there was a lot of chatter about not buying into the game plans. I think Austin is gone. Maybe WR coach? Don’t expect much else.

 

[3C's]

What could Pittsburgh get for Tomlin?

National media: a couple of 1sts!
Fans: a broken down VW bus!

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Muth drop to start the game and then him not getting an easy first in a key possession hurt. Russ seemed very uncomfortable, especially in the first half. Was Anderson getting pushed back?

 

[3C's]

Also, I'm sure it's already "fun" but sports talk radio in the burg tomorrow is going to be

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

How do you get run on 13 straight times? Totally bullied. And I get instructions for the edge to ignore lamar and attack the back — but someone has to have the lamar assignment too

 

[fred_1_15301]

Here is the scary thing: since the Steelers lost in the Super Bowl following the 2010 season, they have three playoff wins. Three. And they came against A.J. McCarron (the game where Burfict imploded and blew a game where it looked like the Bengals had it all but won), Matt Moore and Alex Smith.

They have zero playoff wins in their last eight seasons.

This is precisely why they need to find a way to get rid of Tomlin. In those 3 wins, only 1 was convincing (the one against Miami). That was due to a massive talent differential. They eeked out a win against KC the next week as a pretty big favorite if I recall. Steelers had virtually no offense in that game. You are correct that the win against Cincy was gifted to them by Burfict. Can you think of a single playoff game where you said to yourself “gee Tomlin sure outcoached the other guy”? I honestly can’t. What I can say with certainty that his teams have come out comically unprepared to start just about every playoff game. He is a prime example of a coach who turtles up in the playoffs. But he always gives good sound bites. He needs to go for this team to ever get back to relevance. Also, I don’t think is an Andy Reid situation where he just needs a change of scenery. His limitations will stick with him wherever he goes.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Not sure if there’s a single Steelers offensive player who would be a starter for the Ravens

Maybe Pickens over Bateman, though Ravens probably wouldn’t make that trade. Is Friermuth better than Likely? They’re pretty comparable

Boswell maybe? Though Tucker may have turned it around? Watt for sure.

 

[pghrob]

The Steelers of late lack football ingenuity or ability to effectively scheme to win the actual on field game.

There's an old Tomlin quote recently raised about Steelers and Ravens and him and Harbaugh in AFC North playoff chase, as being a game of chess not checkers.

It just time.

The Tomlin effect is not working.

A new approach is needed.

 

[belljr]

You guys still doing this?

https://c.tenor.com/gGkc7WEpIMoAAAAd/tenor.gif

 

[Snotbubbles]

If you're Mike Tomlin, why would you want to stay in Pittsburgh? They need a total overhaul. They have no QB, an average RB, a below average WR corp, maybe the leagues 2 worst starting Ts, an aging star on defense (TJ Watt), average secondary. There are so many holes on this team. It's a miracle they even made the playoffs.

 

[Steeler]

Here is the scary thing: since the Steelers lost in the Super Bowl following the 2010 season, they have three playoff wins. Three. And they came against A.J. McCarron (the game where Burfict imploded and blew a game where it looked like the Bengals had it all but won), Matt Moore and Alex Smith.

They have zero playoff wins in their last eight seasons.

3 and 8 in playoff games since that SB lose and the wins were against those QBs... Yikes!

 

[crushedspirit]

If you're Mike Tomlin, why would you want to stay in Pittsburgh? They need a total overhaul. They have no QB, an average RB, a below average WR corp, maybe the leagues 2 worst starting Ts, an aging star on defense (TJ Watt), average secondary. There are so many holes on this team. It's a miracle they even made the playoffs.

Mike Tomlin can have a HOF QB and loaded D and still be one and done.
2021
2020
2017

This goes beyond the talent level, which by the way is not lacking on D.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

 

[belljr]

FYI Tomlin has a no trade clause for all those dreaming up scenarios

 

[pghrob]

If you're Mike Tomlin, why would you want to stay in Pittsburgh? They need a total overhaul. They have no QB, an average RB, a below average WR corp, maybe the leagues 2 worst starting Ts, an aging star on defense (TJ Watt), average secondary. There are so many holes on this team. It's a miracle they even made the playoffs.

"If you're Mike Tomlin, why would you want to stay in Pittsburgh?..."

Tomlin is a primary contributor to everything you wrote that reflects the current stale state of the Steelers.

Perhaps rather than ask why would he want to stay, another more probing question is why would team President and owner Art Rooney want Tomlin to stay.

Your question reflects a view that Tomlin is worthy of being in a driver's seat in terms of any decisions about his future employment as the Steelers head coach.

It would seem that he has lost credibility to hold the keys to the castle.

 

[crushedspirit]

This comment by Bilichick perfectly explains the main crux of Tomlin's playoff woes, and those who don't understand never will.

"Mike Tomlin game-plans the same every week, doesn't matter who the quarterback was and what year it is. Play good defense, don't turn the ball over, try to get the running game going, but play good field position, make him drive it against that defense, don't give up many points and win. I don't want to say win ugly, but win."

Now this simplistic blueprint will work more often than not in the regular season even with an average offense if you have the players on D, and that's why he tends to exceed every season with 9 or 10 wins. Problem comes playoff time when facing the better teams that adjust to it and strike where the weakness of it exists, which is made easier by knowing exactly what to expect. It's the same as handing the opponent the game plan pre game and then daring them to stop you. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[pghrob]

This comment by Bilichick perfectly explains the main crux of Tomlin's playoff woes, and those who don't understand never will.

"Mike Tomlin game-plans the same every week, doesn't matter who the quarterback was and what year it is. Play good defense, don't turn the ball over, try to get the running game going, but play good field position, make him drive it against that defense, don't give up many points and win. I don't want to say win ugly, but win."

Now this simplistic blueprint will work more often than not in the regular season even with an average offense if you have the players on D, and that's why he tends to exceed every season with 9 or 10 wins. Problem comes playoff time when facing the better teams that adjust to it and strike where the weakness of it exists, which is made easier by knowing exactly what to expect. It's the same as handing the opponent the game plan pre game and then daring them to stop you. Rinse. Repeat.

Exactly spot on. Eay (Way) too predictable. No game by game or internet (intra-game) game adjustment. For all of Tomlin's usage of words like "fluidity" or phrase like "big in stadium moments" etc, his record of performance consistently reflects inability to resourefully alter on-the-fly, in the heat of the moment or battle. It's almost if he has a singular-vision, set in stone philosophy for how to win at the game of professional football. He has endeavored to create (and apparently wildly succeeded) at building a monolithicly supreme mediocre football playing program.

Edited to fix spell check caused errors.

 

[3C's]

FYI Tomlin has a no trade clause for all those dreaming up scenarios

Not that he would, but he can waive the no trade.

 

[HellToupee]

The Steelers have become the NFL version of the forever .500 Hartford Whalers and the Milwaukee Bucks of the 80s & 90s. Just a hamster wheel of meh

 

[Steelers4Life]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.

They might be. Might be close to it. But they're talented enough to be a 10 win team that's the least talented team in the playoffs. That's basically been the goal of the team for the past decade, and that's the style of team Tomlin coaches.

Wilson was going to be good enough to help the team win 9 or 10 games. Fields might not have been, but neither was going to lead this team to playoff success.

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy. There's a reason why the Steelers have been outscored in their last 6 or 7 playoff games in the first quarter by a combined score of 80-0.

 

[crushedspirit]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.

You may have a point on offense, but the D has 2 all pros and 1 pro bowler on it, and came in ranked 8th in pts and 12th in yards against.

 

[karl.Racki]

Steelers won't sign Rodgers he's 41 and there's a better chance that no one signs Aaron. Going from RW who's old to AR whose mummified old isn't happening.

More realistic moves that won't happen. I'd prefer the Steeler's trade for J. J. McCarthy. Trade up in the draft if there's a go getem QB in this draft. This year is considered a down year for QBs in the draft. I wouldn't bring back RW. I'd let Justin Fields battle it out with Daniel Jones.

Tomlin loved AR, If they can get him a decent price, they will do to him like they did with Wilson this season IMO..

 

[HellToupee]

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy

It was jarring to see the lack of spark. They were bullied all over the field

 

[need2know]

Tomlin will get it fixed. Stay the course!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.

They might be. Might be close to it. But they're talented enough to be a 10 win team that's the least talented team in the playoffs. That's basically been the goal of the team for the past decade, and that's the style of team Tomlin coaches.

Wilson was going to be good enough to help the team win 9 or 10 games. Fields might not have been, but neither was going to lead this team to playoff success.

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy. There's a reason why the Steelers have been outscored in their last 6 or 7 playoff games in the first quarter by a combined score of 80-0.

The fact that the Steelers were a 10 win team is a testament to their coaching, not their talent. They aren't winning games in spite of their coach, they win them because of him.

I agree with you about the QBs. I said the same thing about the QB situation in the thread talking about whether Tomlin should have gone to Wilson. Neither guy is good enough to win you a Superbowl.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Steelers feel like they are stuck in a cycle since Ben left. The roster has a lot of holes but a solid defense and Tomlin gets a 7-8 win team to 9-10 wins. They make the playoffs when they probably don't deserve it, then they lose in the first round to a superior team. They end up with the 20th pick which puts them in a bad situation to get a franchise QB. They fill some holes and runs the team back largely the same with the same results.

Theres some perception that Tomlin gets more out of the talent he has than most would. That's simply not true. He's like a RB who can get what's blocked but doesn't get anything more than that, and sometimes he gets let's because his teams show up flat for games they should win. Its been that way for a long time, not just recently.

Given the talent the Steelers HAVE had, even over the past few years, that's what he is. His shortcomings as a coach are painfully obvious to anyone who watches them.

The Steelers might be the least talented team in the NFL playoffs this season.

They might be. Might be close to it. But they're talented enough to be a 10 win team that's the least talented team in the playoffs. That's basically been the goal of the team for the past decade, and that's the style of team Tomlin coaches.

Wilson was going to be good enough to help the team win 9 or 10 games. Fields might not have been, but neither was going to lead this team to playoff success.

What was awful last night isn't that the Steelers lost to a better team. Its that they had nothing. No spark, no energy. There's a reason why the Steelers have been outscored in their last 6 or 7 playoff games in the first quarter by a combined score of 80-0.

The fact that the Steelers were a 10 win team is a testament to their coaching, not their talent. They aren't winning games in spite of their coach, they win them because of him.

I agree with you about the QBs. I said the same thing about the QB situation in the thread talking about whether Tomlin should have gone to Wilson. Neither guy is good enough to win you a Superbowl.

That's simply incorrect. They had 10-win team talent, especially with their defense and their early schedule as it was. They didn't win any games they shouldn't have won this year, but they lost games where they played flat against the Browns and a home game against the Cowboys. Happens every year.

They ended on a 5 game losing streak. OK, whatever, right? In 5 of the past 7 years, the Steelers have lost at least 3 games in December. When most good teams are improving and gearing up for the playoffs, the Steelers fade almost every year. This has been a problem for a long time, but people who only read headlines and listen to national media just have no clue.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

It seems like the D gave up weeks ago and there was a lot of chatter about not buying into the game plans. I think Austin is gone. Maybe WR coach? Don’t expect much else.

The narrative most places, including here, is that the coordinators don't matter because Tomlin runs the D.

Even if that is true, I hope they get rid of Austin now. He has been colossally unimpressive, regardless of what his actual gameday input may be.

Not sure if there’s a single Steelers offensive player who would be a starter for the Ravens

Maybe Pickens over Bateman, though Ravens probably wouldn’t make that trade. Is Friermuth better than Likely? They’re pretty comparable

Boswell maybe? Though Tucker may have turned it around? Watt for sure.

He said on offense.

monolithicly supreme mediocre football playing program.

This is

Stealing for FF team names for eternity.

 

[fred_1_15301]

It seems like the D gave up weeks ago and there was a lot of chatter about not buying into the game plans. I think Austin is gone. Maybe WR coach? Don’t expect much else.

The narrative most places, including here, is that the coordinators don't matter because Tomlin runs the D.

Even if that is true, I hope they get rid of Austin now. He has been colossally unimpressive, regardless of what his actual gameday input may be.

Not sure if there’s a single Steelers offensive player who would be a starter for the Ravens

Maybe Pickens over Bateman, though Ravens probably wouldn’t make that trade. Is Friermuth better than Likely? They’re pretty comparable

Boswell maybe? Though Tucker may have turned it around? Watt for sure.

He said on offense.

monolithicly supreme mediocre football playing program.

This is

Stealing for FF team names for eternity.

Oops you’re right. I missed that part.