2025-26 NBA Thread: Chauncey Billups suddenly resigns to play minor-league baseball (3 Viewers)

[massraider]

especially since he seemingly didn't get paid for providing tanking information in 2023 (seemingly if he got paid for that info, he would have been indicted for that as well). They have a lot of the guys dead to rights here, but the Billups piece is the shakiest in terms of accusations in the indictment

Feds say Chauncey was involved in mobbed up poker games, with high tech cheating that cost victims up to 7 mill.

That's a massive accusation

 

[Zow]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

If you handed me 5 million I would blow it unwisely in a few years.

Funny, I literally just got off the phone with a client in her late 60s who proclaimed that she cannot possibly live off the $5 million plus a nice home free and clear I negotiated for her in a divorce settlement.

Any chance you're a late 60s something divorcee in my jurisdiction? If so, please pay your bill.

 

[irish eyes]

Easily the dumbest human beings on earth, just unbelievable. Can't fix stupid.

 

[General Malaise]

And if the Feds offer you a plea deal, take it. Do NOT fight the Feds. My buddy learned that lesson the hard way.

 

[General Malaise]

Spurs still suck.

Your team should have lost to the Jailblazers. Horrendous officiating late. Ant got away with abuse.

 

[Yo Mama]

And if the Feds offer you a plea deal, take it. Do NOT fight the Feds. My buddy learned that lesson the hard way.

My guess is this is why Billups is co-conspirator 8 in the betting investigation and not named explicitly in that one.

 

[General Malaise]

especially since he seemingly didn't get paid for providing tanking information in 2023 (seemingly if he got paid for that info, he would have been indicted for that as well). They have a lot of the guys dead to rights here, but the Billups piece is the shakiest in terms of accusations in the indictment

Feds say Chauncey was involved in mobbed up poker games, with high tech cheating that cost victims up to 7 mill.

That's a massive accusation

Not if he was just a Face Card once.

His rape allegations are way way way worse.

 

[Sammy3469]

especially since he seemingly didn't get paid for providing tanking information in 2023 (seemingly if he got paid for that info, he would have been indicted for that as well). They have a lot of the guys dead to rights here, but the Billups piece is the shakiest in terms of accusations in the indictment

Feds say Chauncey was involved in mobbed up poker games, with high tech cheating that cost victims up to 7 mill.

That's a massive accusation

In 2019....my only point is there's a statute of limitations on these things and the Feds generally have to prove "it" was ongoing to include acts from 7 years ago in money laundering and wire fraud accusations (the case is convincing against the other folks in the indictment). Maybe Billups was the face the entire time period, but that wasn't in the allegations. He's obviously a dope, but there's a non-zero chance there's not much of a case here against him.

If the Feds are trying to say they can reach back that far since the rest of the operation was ongoing, they may not find a judge willing to go along with that argument wrt to Billups.

 

[General Malaise]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

If you handed me 5 million I would blow it unwisely in a few years.

Funny, I literally just got off the phone with a client in her late 60s who proclaimed that she cannot possibly live off the $5 million plus a nice home free and clear I negotiated for her in a divorce settlement.

Any chance you're a late 60s something divorcee in my jurisdiction? If so, please pay your bill.

People like this infuriate me.

Not Rover, the termegant in Prescott.

 

[Zow]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

If you handed me 5 million I would blow it unwisely in a few years.

Funny, I literally just got off the phone with a client in her late 60s who proclaimed that she cannot possibly live off the $5 million plus a nice home free and clear I negotiated for her in a divorce settlement.

Any chance you're a late 60s something divorcee in my jurisdiction? If so, please pay your bill.

People like this infuriate me.

Not Rover, the termegant in Prescott.

Ixnay on the urisdictiojay (you're close, though).

 

[General Malaise]

Billups better start kissing up to you know who.....call up Diddy for the playbook. He'll be coaching the Celtics by 2027.

 

[massraider]

Not if he was just a Face Card once.

do we know this to be true?

 

[General Malaise]

I, for one, am jazzed up for the Tiago Splitter era!!!! Letsgoooooo!

 

[General Malaise]

Not if he was just a Face Card once.

do we know this to be true?

I don't know anything. Not a lawyer. Not even a Billups' fan. Just going by what local sports talk dorks are saying.

 

[the moops]

Rozier played the next 4 games after this and 6 of the next 7. Did sit out the next 5 games but then went on to play 5 of the last 9 games of the season

He played the next three--the third game for only nine minutes--and then did not play again for the season. He was listed as inactive with no injury designation.

Terry Rozier 2022-23 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com

Get Terry Rozier's 2022-23 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com

www.basketball-reference.com

That tweet shows a game where Rozier is playing for the Heat in March of 2025. Why are you showing game logs from his time in Charlotte?

 

[Sammy3469]

Not if he was just a Face Card once.

do we know this to be true?

We don't know it really either way; just that the only allege incident in the indictment that Billups directly participated in was in 2019. Point 36 says it was numerous occasions where "Face Cards" were used in Rigged Games, but lumps Billups and Jones together as "Face Cards" and gives no dates to when they were Face Cards.

@Yo Mama made reference to it above, but between the two indictments, the Feds clearly think Billups was involved, but for whatever reason didn't think they could get a conviction (at this time) on the 2023 sports betting side, so went with poker allegation.

 

[FarFromHome]

As a life long Blazer fan I'm just super thrilled that the Jail Blazers are back!!!!!!

 

[Jayrod]

Lol https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1981492100668473805

 

[thecatch]

I, for one, am jazzed up for the Tiago Splitter era!!!! Letsgoooooo!

I always liked him as a player.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

I always liked him as a player.

He was the Cherokee Parks of his generation.

 

[Phil Elliott]

And I thought scripting the games was just for entertainment purposes.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

good one — https://x.com/Reflog_18/status/1981354934240006502

 

[General Malaise]

good one — https://x.com/Reflog_18/status/1981354934240006502

They better credit Cappy with that joke.

 

[DJackson10]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

Which sucks because instead of teaching kids stuff they need for everyday life we’re teaching them crap maybe barely 5% of a graduating class if that will ever use.

 

[DJackson10]

https://x.com/oldnbatweetz/status/1981325583255818673?t=-rpys_-5Bzi5nkTLDq-Qqw&s=19

Brian Windhorst was on with Rich Eisen and he said the sportbooks flagged this game immediately and informed the NBA by sunrise the next morning.

There was nothing official said by the league, but Rozier didn't play again for the rest of the season.

Someone on the radio said the books noticed an inordinate amount of prop bet unders involving Rozier for that game. Have no idea if that's accurate but it tracks.

This is how Donaghey was eventually caught. The group got greedy and books got suspicious of bets. I believe Tim owed the mafia at that point some $$$ so he was trying to win that back plus some extra

 

[mr. furley]

Reddit thread from TWO years ago!

For context this is a poker-focused podcast by Matthew Berkey (a well-known professional poker player for 20+ years who lives in Vegas) and his close friends with whom he runs a poker coaching company.

Matt: There are a lot of stories about it. There's one that cropped up, must've been like 5 years ago, 2019ish I think? 4 years ago? Where there was this game, it started in LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days, and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And I had heard about the game, and the person who told me about it was like "Look, I know the game runners, I am telling you 100% this game is on the up-and-up." And I was like "Well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I am telling you 100% that it is NOT on the up-and-up."

We kind of went back and forth and I agreed that I just wasn't going to go play. But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously was like, for sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just jamming hundreds of big blinds with a gutty and then just drilling it.1 [laughs] Only the pros are losing...

Conrad: How was it figured out?

Matt: I can't remember if this was the game where...

Conrad: The loudspeaker? No... that was Pierce [referring to a different cheating story involving Paul Pierce]

Matt: Oh, okay. Well it's still, it's not like Chauncey and Pierce don't know each other [laughs]. I feel like it's probably the same crowd overlapping there, but maybe not. Either way, it was basically confirmed amongst all the pros that the game was cheated but here's just no recourse. And just, you know, they got absolutely flayed.

Conrad: Yeah, there's no recourse in a lot of these situations.

Matt: Well it's tough too whenever you're dealing with someone high profile like that, because they carry a lot of weight and hold a lot of power, so all you can do is unite together and threaten to publicly out him or extort him in some sort of capacity, in which case... good luck. It's like, this guy beat rape charges. You think he cares about you calling him a cheater?

Conrad: Yeah, I mean it's like... most people cheat and come prepared for a situation when it does happen. So you just can't really out them. When they're there, you don't want to call them out in public--

Matt: Well what's crazy to me is that some of the guys I'm friends with that played the game kept going back, not fully convinced. Just like "These guys are so bad, man. So bad!" Yeah man, they know what's ****ing coming, man. You don't have to be good if you can know the deck start to finish. Of course they look bad, they're putting it in with no equity knowing that they're going to win the ****ing hand. Pretty tough you know?

the delusion of gambling, eh?

"these easy marks are going to be free cash! how come i keep losing money? they don't even know the rules.. they must be cheating but i'll clean up next time on these suckers."

 

[msudaisy26]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

Which sucks because instead of teaching kids stuff they need for everyday life we’re teaching them crap maybe barely 5% of a graduating class if that will ever use.

Okay

 

[mr. furley]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

on the flipside, Latrell Sprewell is a Brady Street legend in Milwaukee

NBA fans hate him but he's absolutely beloved in Milwaukee

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

That tweet shows a game where Rozier is playing for the Heat in March of 2025. Why are you showing game logs from his time in Charlotte?

You are right. I am wrong and confused.

The game Windhorst referenced was from 2023. I equated the clip with his remarks.

 

[mr. furley]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

If you handed me 5 million I would blow it unwisely in a few years.

Funny, I literally just got off the phone with a client in her late 60s who proclaimed that she cannot possibly live off the $5 million plus a nice home free and clear I negotiated for her in a divorce settlement.

Any chance you're a late 60s something divorcee in my jurisdiction? If so, please pay your bill.

People like this infuriate me.

Not Rover, the termegant in Prescott.

whoa, whoa, whoa... what are you doing here? you have a reputation to uphold

 

[FarFromHome]

I haven't really deep dove into this. Just kinda casually following. I just thought it was cheating at cards then I read this:

The indictment says an NBA coach tipped off gamblers that the Blazers would rest key players before a March 24, 2023, loss, helping them place successful bets.


That's horrrible

 

[dickey moe]

And if the Feds offer you a plea deal, take it. Do NOT fight the Feds. My buddy learned that lesson the hard way.

What happened?

 

[Zow]

Details of the rigged poker games that Damon Jones and Chauncey Billups were involved (from the US Attorney press conference):
+ X-ray machines built into tables to read face-down cards
+ Contact lenses/glasses that read pre-marked cards.
+ Secret cameras in card trays

Got damn Chauncey

I just don't get this.

Why go to this elaborate of a scheme if you are already making millions? Just so stupid.

I think there is some kind of addiction to the adrenaline rush of it all. No longer playing after decades of competitive sports and maybe there is just some hole to fill?

Man, take up golf or bowling or something.

We don’t know what his money situation is. He MADE millions but it could already be all gone. Especially if he is a gambler.

Many of these athletes in sports suck at money management. Think I heard awhile back over half the nfl players who retire file for bankruptcy or go broke in less then 5 yrs after playing career. These days the nfl has gotten manadatory financial classes for rookies on how to spend wisely, invest, ways to not get scammed, etc. it’s almost embarrassing how poorly many athletes deal with their finances

I’d be willing to bet that if you handed the average 23 year old 5 million he or she would blow it unwisely in a few years.

In other words, I don’t think this is an athlete issue but a “people in their early to mid 20s” are morons issue. The athletes just exemplify it on a larger scale.

Which sucks because instead of teaching kids stuff they need for everyday life we’re teaching them crap maybe barely 5% of a graduating class if that will ever use.

I maintain that 95% of most kids don't pay attention in school, anyway. If they had, they'd be using way more than 5% of what they were taught in school on a daily basis.

 

[Zow]

And if the Feds offer you a plea deal, take it. Do NOT fight the Feds. My buddy learned that lesson the hard way.

:bigredX:

They should hire a lawyer and listen to him about what to do. Particularly one that is a fan of the Timberwolves.

 

[Frostillicus]

Spurs still suck.

Your team should have lost to the Jailblazers. Horrendous officiating late. Ant got away with abuse.

Disagree.

 

[Frostillicus]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

on the flipside, Latrell Sprewell is a Brady Street legend in Milwaukee

NBA fans hate him but he's absolutely beloved in Milwaukee

I like him.

 

[massraider]

Lucas Barbu on Instagram: "Based on everything I have read, it seems pretty clear to me who is guiding this FBI case #nba #fbi #gilbertarenas #damonjones #chaunceybillups #lebronjames"

9,269 likes, 285 comments - theballboypodcast on October 23, 2025: "Based on everything I have read, it seems pretty clear to me who is guiding this FBI case #nba #fbi #gilbertarenas #damonjones #chaunceybillups #lebronjames".

www.instagram.com

It all ties back to Gilbert Arenas!

 

[CGRdrJoe]

That tweet shows a game where Rozier is playing for the Heat in March of 2025. Why are you showing game logs from his time in Charlotte?

You are right. I am wrong and confused.

The game Windhorst referenced was from 2023. I equated the clip with his remarks.

username doesn’t check out

 

[AAABatteries]

@ghostfrank11
“Billups should just blame his interpreter.”

That is a fantastic joke - works on a couple of levels.

 

[Phil Elliott]

I would have thought this would have happened in the WNBA where many of the players have been claiming they are underpaid.

 

[Jayrod]

OKC battling in OT for a second game to start the year.

SGA has shot 20 FT's in this game.

 

[Jayrod]

OKC battling in OT for a second game to start the year.

SGA has shot 20 FT's in this game.

Make that back to back Double-OT games to start the year. Never been done before.

SGA missed a potential game winner because they made him go right. He tried to flail but the refs did not give him the call.

 

[Kev4029]

Aaron Gordon is the best shooter in the history of the NBA.

 

[Yo Mama]

Man is Curry fun to watch (if your team isn’t playing against him).

Two great games tonight.

 

[Master of Subservience]

Curry's going to get the headlines, but this was also the second straight start and and second straight excellent (for him) all-around, Warriors-style game for Kuminga. He's scored more points before, sure. Many times. But this is the best basketball he's ever played. The points and accolades will follow, at least that's Golden State's operating philosophy.

The narrative for the last 6 months or so has been who can they get for Kuminga because Kerr "doesn't like him." That's always been BS. Kerr's been pleading with him for four years to play D, rebound, and play within the offensive system. Now, at this late hour, that appears to be happening. The Warriors would much rather see him flourish like this and keep him. They've always said the potential was there, he's just been maddeningly obtuse and inconsistent (and for most of the the time, been a teenager).

It's probably ho-hum from a national perspective, but if the Warriors want to legitimately compete for a championship they need this to happen. The trade route was always sub-optimal and less desirable. They were never going to get a "starter on a championship-level team" talent back for him, but he is certainly capable of being that talent himself. Keep it up, Jonathan.

That aside, the Baby-Faced Assassin is still droppin' fools. There's nothing else like it

 

[msudaisy26]

For all you NBA bettors Fanduel has a 100 percent deposit match for Halloween and the start of the season.

#scaryterry
Or
#jailblazers

 

[Jayrod]

Curry's going to get the headlines, but this was also the second straight start and and second straight excellent (for him) all-around, Warriors-style game for Kuminga. He's scored more points before, sure. Many times. But this is the best basketball he's ever played. The points and accolades will follow, at least that's Golden State's operating philosophy.

The narrative for the last 6 months or so has been who can they get for Kuminga because Kerr "doesn't like him." That's always been BS. Kerr's been pleading with him for four years to play D, rebound, and play within the offensive system. Now, at this late hour, that appears to be happening. The Warriors would much rather see him flourish like this and keep him. They've always said the potential was there, he's just been maddeningly obtuse and inconsistent (and for most of the the time, been a teenager).

It's probably ho-hum from a national perspective, but if the Warriors want to legitimately compete for a championship they need this to happen. The trade route was always sub-optimal and less desirable. They were never going to get a "starter on a championship-level team" talent back for him, but he is certainly capable of being that talent himself. Keep it up, Jonathan.

That aside, the Baby-Faced Assassin is still droppin' fools. There's nothing else like it

The Warriors looked great last night, but they are fresh and healthy.

Draymond, Butler and Horford all were key guys playing down the stretch of that game and not a one of them will likely play 60 games. I think father time will be their biggest obstacle this season.

 

[SWC]

After I graduated from Michigan State, I came home and went back to school at Oakland University. I worked at a local bar that was also near the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons play. Billups was one of the players that would come to the bar hang out with some of the regulars. It took a couple years, but he wore his welcome out and didn't ever come back to the bar.

I always thought it was odd that the best player on a championship caliber team wasn't mobbed when he came in, but then I would hear some of the rumors/stories and it kind of made sense.

on the flipside, Latrell Sprewell is a Brady Street legend in Milwaukee

NBA fans hate him but he's absolutely beloved in Milwaukee

hes a legend around here choking and all no doubt about it sad as that is take that to the bank bromigos

 

[SWC]

Curry's going to get the headlines, but this was also the second straight start and and second straight excellent (for him) all-around, Warriors-style game for Kuminga. He's scored more points before, sure. Many times. But this is the best basketball he's ever played. The points and accolades will follow, at least that's Golden State's operating philosophy.

The narrative for the last 6 months or so has been who can they get for Kuminga because Kerr "doesn't like him." That's always been BS. Kerr's been pleading with him for four years to play D, rebound, and play within the offensive system. Now, at this late hour, that appears to be happening. The Warriors would much rather see him flourish like this and keep him. They've always said the potential was there, he's just been maddeningly obtuse and inconsistent (and for most of the the time, been a teenager).

It's probably ho-hum from a national perspective, but if the Warriors want to legitimately compete for a championship they need this to happen. The trade route was always sub-optimal and less desirable. They were never going to get a "starter on a championship-level team" talent back for him, but he is certainly capable of being that talent himself. Keep it up, Jonathan.

That aside, the Baby-Faced Assassin is still droppin' fools. There's nothing else like it

The Warriors looked great last night, but they are fresh and healthy.

Draymond, Butler and Horford all were key guys playing down the stretch of that game and not a one of them will likely play 60 games. I think father time will be their biggest obstacle this season.

i frankly cant believe they won that game i went to bed when they had cut it to 9 at half but they looked like they had no chance and denver was running them off the court and gordon had 6 ot 7 threes in the first half but man when you can shoot you are never out of a game i guess take that to the bank bromigos

 

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Curry's going to get the headlines, but this was also the second straight start and and second straight excellent (for him) all-around, Warriors-style game for Kuminga. He's scored more points before, sure. Many times. But this is the best basketball he's ever played. The points and accolades will follow, at least that's Golden State's operating philosophy.

The narrative for the last 6 months or so has been who can they get for Kuminga because Kerr "doesn't like him." That's always been BS. Kerr's been pleading with him for four years to play D, rebound, and play within the offensive system. Now, at this late hour, that appears to be happening. The Warriors would much rather see him flourish like this and keep him. They've always said the potential was there, he's just been maddeningly obtuse and inconsistent (and for most of the the time, been a teenager).

It's probably ho-hum from a national perspective, but if the Warriors want to legitimately compete for a championship they need this to happen. The trade route was always sub-optimal and less desirable. They were never going to get a "starter on a championship-level team" talent back for him, but he is certainly capable of being that talent himself. Keep it up, Jonathan.

That aside, the Baby-Faced Assassin is still droppin' fools. There's nothing else like it

The Warriors looked great last night, but they are fresh and healthy.

Draymond, Butler and Horford all were key guys playing down the stretch of that game and not a one of them will likely play 60 games. I think father time will be their biggest obstacle this season.

i frankly cant believe they won that game i went to bed when they had cut it to 9 at half but they looked like they had no chance and denver was running them off the court and gordon had 6 ot 7 threes in the first half but man when you can shoot you are never out of a game i guess take that to the bank bromigos

Worst thing about being in the east or mid west. Great games on west coast, but I can't stay up for them.