2025-26 NBA Thread: Gambling addict looking at NBA Cup winner odds wondering where it all went wrong for him (20 Viewers)

[Desert_Power]

2. The leader on a young, bad team. DeRozan is a high character guy who is good with young players and can set a good example for them on and off the court. Additionally, for DeMar, don't think he doesn't care about career points. He's #25 all-time now and only about 2,700 point away from top 10. If a bad team gives him the opportunity to get his 20 plus points a night, that helps him get there. He has been very durable.

Seems like something Charlotte could help with.

 

[Kev4029]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Supposed to be even better in the lottery.

 

[Ilov80s]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Yeah supposedly there’s 4 or 5 guys who they think would have gone ahead of Flagg

 

[Ilov80s]

I am starting to fall in love with the Pistons. Love the effort and the defense in the second halves.

These last 2 wins were maybe the most impressive yet. All our top players DNP and still winning games. BBall Paul and our G-Leaguer are taking games over.

It is fun, but if they want to be serious contenders they have to find or develop a running mate for Cade in the playoffs.

Thompson can't shoot, Ivey can't stay healthy, Holland is a year away or more, and Duren doesn’t have the range. The East has never been more wide open. They need to make their version of the Rasheed Wallace trade.

No one thought (myself included) the Pistons had a chance against the Lakers in 04 and the Thunder seem to have that going for them this year, but let's get there and find out.

I would love for them to find room for their GLeague sensation too. I just worry how much of the young core they might have to give up to acquire a running mate for Cade.

Depends on the player, but I don't think it will be as steep as most think. Plus the NBA is different with the luxury tax and second apron. Most teams are willing to do what the Warriors did and have a 250 million dollar team that they pay and then pay another 500 million in taxes etc. Plus Duren and Ivey are extension eligible this year, Thompson next. Someone or a few someone's are going to have to go.

Hard to see Ivey returning. I mean our whole turn around happened after he got hurt.

 

[Juxtatarot]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Yeah supposedly there’s 4 or 5 guys who they think would have gone ahead of Flagg

I heard that too. It's quite funny since there was some discussion last year as to whether Flagg was a generational talent.

 

[thecatch]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Yeah supposedly there’s 4 or 5 guys who they think would have gone ahead of Flagg

I think that was just Kevin O’Connor trying to get some clicks. Not true at all.

 

[msudaisy26]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Yeah supposedly there’s 4 or 5 guys who they think would have gone ahead of Flagg

I heard that too. It's quite funny since there was some discussion last year as to whether Flagg was a generational talent.

That is very odd, because other than Wemby he was considered the best and easiest first pick since like KAT.

 

[the moops]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Good thing New Orleans traded away their 2026 unprotected first to move up to grab Queen last year

 

[Juxtatarot]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Good thing New Orleans traded away their 2026 unprotected first to move up to grab Queen last year

Second worst trade in the last year.

 

[Yo Mama]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Good thing New Orleans traded away their 2026 unprotected first to move up to grab Queen last year

They also gave Indiana their 2026 pick back last year. That’s two potential top five picks they traded away.

 

[Major]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Good thing New Orleans traded away their 2026 unprotected first to move up to grab Queen last year

They also gave Indiana their 2026 pick back last year. That’s two potential top five picks they traded away.

Sounds like the perfect landing spot for Nico

 

[Ilov80s]

there are a LOT of terrible/tanking teams this year: Jazz, Grizzlies, Mavs, Kings, Pelicans, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, and Wizards all could be vying for the top 3-4 picks.

Is this a good draft like last year's?

Yeah supposedly there’s 4 or 5 guys who they think would have gone ahead of Flagg

I heard that too. It's quite funny since there was some discussion last year as to whether Flagg was a generational talent.

The generational word cracks me up because I feel like in football we supposedly get at least 1 generational player ever year.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Speaking of the Pelicans, Willie Green was fired this morning. I'm sure they will be much better now.

 

[Desert_Power]

Speaking of the Pelicans, Willie Green was fired this morning. I'm sure they will be much better now.

Borrego as interim. Always hoped he would get another chance but not like this

 

[Tha Guru]

Speaking of the Pelicans, Willie Green was fired this morning. I'm sure they will be much better now.

Pels fan here. People don't know how bad of a coach Willie is. I know someone very close to the situation. He refused to take input from his coaching staff. On top of that, most of the players hated him, especially Trey Murphy.

I think you'll see the players give a damn under Borrego. They really like him.

As for Dumars, bad trade to give up an unprotected pick for Queen. If he protects the pick (top 4), I think the fan base could at least understand it. Queen and Fears look good, but if that pick lands top 4, Dumars will be roasted by the fan base.

 

[the moops]

Speaking of the Pelicans, Willie Green was fired this morning. I'm sure they will be much better now.

Pels fan here. People don't know how bad of a coach Willie is. I know someone very close to the situation. He refused to take input from his coaching staff. On top of that, most of the players hated him, especially Trey Murphy.

I think you'll see the players give a damn under Borrego. They really like him.

As for Dumars, bad trade to give up an unprotected pick for Queen. If he protects the pick (top 4), I think the fan base could at least understand it. Queen and Fears look good, but if that pick lands top 4, Dumars will be roasted by the fan base.

Queen is fun to watch play but he really needs to be really good and the pick has to fall to like the 8 range for this trade to even make the slightest sense.

 

[msudaisy26]

Speaking of the Pelicans, Willie Green was fired this morning. I'm sure they will be much better now.

Pels fan here. People don't know how bad of a coach Willie is. I know someone very close to the situation. He refused to take input from his coaching staff. On top of that, most of the players hated him, especially Trey Murphy.

I think you'll see the players give a damn under Borrego. They really like him.

As for Dumars, bad trade to give up an unprotected pick for Queen. If he protects the pick (top 4), I think the fan base could at least understand it. Queen and Fears look good, but if that pick lands top 4, Dumars will be roasted by the fan base.

Dumars is my favorite Piston and one of my favorite players ever. He was a phenomenal GM with the Pistons until owner Bill Davidson passed and they took away his power to anything bold and it was like he forgot how to be a general manager after that.

This isn't an excuse for Dumars because he is a grown man and should be able to overcome this.

 

[Yo Mama]

Awesome underreported feel-good story happening today. The Lakers are calling up a 40 year old player from the G League today. Would be awesome if he can get some action with the big league team.

 

[Major]

Awesome underreported feel-good story happening today. The Lakers are calling up a 40 year old player from the G League today. Would be awesome if he can get some action with the big league team.

Poor Bronny. Prolly gonna cut into his PT.

 

[msudaisy26]

Cooper Flagg has already played more minutes as a Maverick than Anthony Davis in just 13 games into his career. Davis has also played in five of those games.

 

[dgreen]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

 

[thecatch]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

even if they aren’t contributing to winning, it’s not a bad idea to have a couple vets out on the court who know what they are doing and setting some semblance of an example.

 

[the moops]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

even if they aren’t contributing to winning, it’s not a bad idea to have a couple vets out on the court who know what they are doing and setting some semblance of an example.

Also need to show potential trading partners that they can still play

 

[Desert_Power]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

This is epic tanking. Somehow the Lakers will end up with the #1 pick though.

 

[dgreen]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

even if they aren’t contributing to winning, it’s not a bad idea to have a couple vets out on the court who know what they are doing and setting some semblance of an example.

Also need to show potential trading partners that they can still play

I guess I haven't heard either way whether or not they are affective veteran leaders, so no opinion on that. But, yeah, I would like as much trade value in return for them. CJ has been playing well recently, so that's good.

 

[Major]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

even if they aren’t contributing to winning, it’s not a bad idea to have a couple vets out on the court who know what they are doing and setting some semblance of an example.

Also need to show potential trading partners that they can still play

I guess I haven't heard either way whether or not they are affective veteran leaders, so no opinion on that. But, yeah, I would like as much trade value in return for them. CJ has been playing well recently, so that's good.

How's Cam Whitmore been looking up there? he never got much of a chance here in Houston. He's fun to watch but also extremely frustrating. Rooting for him though.

 

[dgreen]

The 1-11 Wizards battled the 1-11 Nets last night. The Wizards were at home and favored to win. The Nets won by 23.

Wizards are giving up 129.6 ppg. Next closest is Sacramento at 124.4. Wizards lead the league in turnovers because they have no PG and nobody can handle on-ball pressure. I'd like to see more AJ Johnson because at this point, why not? Wizards get 6.5 steals per game and their opponents get 11.5.

They have a ton of youth, which is good, but I don't see any of these guys developing into a star. Sarr has improved and looks pretty good, but he needs to get a lot stronger and his hands are horrible. He might be able to get to all star level some day. Kyshawn George has also improved and has more potential than I thought last year. Bub Carrington has taken a huge step back. Whitmore was a good acquisition. Bilal is in and out of the lineup and unfortunately his only offense is dunking. His defense is really good, but he can't shoot. Too early to tell what Tre Johnson might be. He shows some good offensive ability most nights. I'd like to see more minutes for him.

CJ McCullom and Khris Middleton get way too many minutes. At this point, there's no reason to pretend that you need some veteran players on the floor to try to win games. They aren't helping them do that. There's no reason they should combine for 55 minutes. These young guys should have the energy to play a lot more minutes and that's what they need going forward.

even if they aren’t contributing to winning, it’s not a bad idea to have a couple vets out on the court who know what they are doing and setting some semblance of an example.

Also need to show potential trading partners that they can still play

I guess I haven't heard either way whether or not they are affective veteran leaders, so no opinion on that. But, yeah, I would like as much trade value in return for them. CJ has been playing well recently, so that's good.

How's Cam Whitmore been looking up there? he never got much of a chance here in Houston. He's fun to watch but also extremely frustrating. Rooting for him though.

I like him. A lot of energy and plays aggressively. He could probably stand to pass a bit more. He hasn’t seen a shot he didn’t like.

 

[Sammy3469]

These injuries (now to Wemby and Giannis) suck.

 

[Capella]

Does the nba end up scheduling games for the week of the nba cup? I may be in LA Or Denver or even Portland the week of 12/8 but right now the schedule is blank. Once these teams get knocked off do they add games for that week or is it kind of a bye week?

 

[the moops]

Does the nba end up scheduling games for the week of the nba cup? I may be in LA Or Denver or even Portland the week of 12/8 but right now the schedule is blank. Once these teams get knocked off do they add games for that week or is it kind of a bye week?

Last year, the semi finals were on Dec 14th. Finals was on Dec 17th. There were games on both the 15th and 16th

 

[Yo Mama]

Does the nba end up scheduling games for the week of the nba cup? I may be in LA Or Denver or even Portland the week of 12/8 but right now the schedule is blank. Once these teams get knocked off do they add games for that week or is it kind of a bye week?

Last year, the semi finals were on Dec 14th. Finals was on Dec 17th. There were games on both the 15th and 16th

Per the google AI:

Teams not in the NBA Cup playoffs will have their regular season games scheduled on
December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15, the "off nights" during the knockout rounds. The 22 teams that did not qualify for the knockout stage will each play two additional regular-season games during these dates.

• Dates: The 22 teams not in the knockout rounds will play two regular-season games on December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15.

 

[Capella]

Does the nba end up scheduling games for the week of the nba cup? I may be in LA Or Denver or even Portland the week of 12/8 but right now the schedule is blank. Once these teams get knocked off do they add games for that week or is it kind of a bye week?

Last year, the semi finals were on Dec 14th. Finals was on Dec 17th. There were games on both the 15th and 16th

Per the google AI:

Teams not in the NBA Cup playoffs will have their regular season games scheduled on
December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15, the "off nights" during the knockout rounds. The 22 teams that did not qualify for the knockout stage will each play two additional regular-season games during these dates.

• Dates: The 22 teams not in the knockout rounds will play two regular-season games on December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15.

Dang. I’d probably be gone before then. Thanks.

 

[Yo Mama]

Does the nba end up scheduling games for the week of the nba cup? I may be in LA Or Denver or even Portland the week of 12/8 but right now the schedule is blank. Once these teams get knocked off do they add games for that week or is it kind of a bye week?

Last year, the semi finals were on Dec 14th. Finals was on Dec 17th. There were games on both the 15th and 16th

Per the google AI:

Teams not in the NBA Cup playoffs will have their regular season games scheduled on
December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15, the "off nights" during the knockout rounds. The 22 teams that did not qualify for the knockout stage will each play two additional regular-season games during these dates.

• Dates: The 22 teams not in the knockout rounds will play two regular-season games on December 11 or 12 and December 14 or 15.

Dang. I’d probably be gone before then. Thanks.

The cup quarterfinals are the 9th and 10th, so maybe you’ll luck out to catch one of those games.

 

[Kev4029]

So it sounds like Pat Beverly sucks. The story of him beating somebody up because of his (14? YO) sister was seeing an 18 YO made a change for the worse - the person he beat up was his little sister.

 

[Kanil]

So it sounds like Pat Beverly sucks. The story of him beating somebody up because of his (14? YO) sister was seeing an 18 YO made a change for the worse - the person he beat up was his little sister.

The first 80% of that post I was wondering why someone would be mad about that. The last 20% shook me.

 

[SWC]

These injuries (now to Wemby and Giannis) suck.

docs quote about giannis grabbing it was pretty funny though i guess as much funny as you can have when talking about an injury take that to the bank brobi wan kenobi

 

[Moe.]

So it sounds like Pat Beverly sucks. The story of him beating somebody up because of his (14? YO) sister was seeing an 18 YO made a change for the worse - the person he beat up was his little sister.

Always the people you most suspect