I don’t even know what to say. Those fans deserve so much better.Westbrook signs with the Kings. I haven’t been this uninterested in watching a Kings team play since probably 2008-2009. And I obviously have a tolerance for bad basketball. Such a gross collection of players.
Yeah, everyone would joke about it but I could seriously see it happening on the Bulls side. They'll have a lot of cap space next year but I don't really see a good free agency target for them. They have their biggest long-term need at center.Might as well keep shuffling players across these two rosters until some combo works.I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls become interested if their season goes decently. They have expirings to match plus can add some type of first round draft compensation.Not as long as Vivek is running things but Sabonis could and should demand a trade. I’ll staunchly defend the position that he’s a good player but I don’t think there will be a real market given what seems to be his perception and his salary.Do you think it will be a fire sale at the trade deadline? If so, what do you think would be a reasonable asking price for Sabonis?Westbrook signs with the Kings. I haven’t been this uninterested in watching a Kings team play since probably 2008-2009. And I obviously have a tolerance for bad basketball. Such a gross collection of players.
Bill Simmons said in a recent football podcast that he thinks the Celtics can make a deep run and Tatum might be back late in the year for the playoffs.Was there anything more inevitable this offseason than the Kings signing Russell Westbrook?
Other thread?We’re going to start drafting our fantasy / not fantasy basketball league next week. Still spots open so check into the other thread.
Other thread?We’re going to start drafting our fantasy / not fantasy basketball league next week. Still spots open so check into the other thread.
I swear he won Rookie of the Year like two years ago. Nice player.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
Two players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
Two players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
Jalen Green sidelined to start the season for Suns.
Almost like Beal never left!
Detlef Schrempf?Two players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
Harden, McDyess?Two players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
I expect Steph Castle to start this season, but if Dylan Harper forces his way into the starting lineup, Castle could be a 6MOY contender this season.Two players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
Gabe Vincent is coming for Luka’s starting job. Absolutely on fire tonight.Lakers Mavs starting now. Lakers have no stars playing tonight but I’m anxious to see what Cooper Flagg looks like.
I’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
Under 30 million a year for a starter? Pretty standard.I’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
I wanted to agree with him, but full court defensive pressure the whole game is just too much.Joe Mazzulla is a weirdo.
I don't think aggressively curb stomping a bunch of out of shape beat writers with a bunch of ex-college and pro players really builds the bonds that he was going for.I wanted to agree with him, but full court defensive pressure the whole game is just too much.Joe Mazzulla is a weirdo.
Yeah, and this was supposed to be a media only game initially. Maybe it would be different if the media challenged the coaches or something. The more I think about it, the stupider it seems.I don't think aggressively curb stomping a bunch of out of shape beat writers with a bunch of ex-college and pro players really builds the bonds that he was going for.I wanted to agree with him, but full court defensive pressure the whole game is just too much.Joe Mazzulla is a weirdo.
I actually thought it was one of the only smart things the Kings have done lately.I’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
That's kinda a bummer just because I've always liked him so would have been cool to see with the Hornets.Spencer Dinwiddie was just waived by the Hornets. Wonder where he’ll end up? Rockets? Added depth to the leagues best backcourt Spurs?
Pretty sure sure we're keeping a spot reserved for LeBron (and Bronny too, obvs) in case he's worth taking on once he demands out, so simply no room this guy. Rockets on the other hands are down to 2.3 guards altogether, so that makes most sense.Spencer Dinwiddie was just waived by the Hornets. Wonder where he’ll end up? Rockets? Added depth to the leagues best backcourt Spurs?
Saw that too. So charlotte signed him a few months ago then just cut him.Spencer Dinwiddie was just waived by the Hornets. Wonder where he’ll end up? Rockets? Added depth to the leagues best backcourt Spurs?
A 4 who can defend and shoot and is 25 years old and never misses games for 16% of the cap is not crazy. Also might bot all be guaranteed, though it is bartelstein, so he probably got it allI’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
Hersey hawkinsTwo players have won both a ROY & 6MOY award. One is Malcolm Brogdon, without looking can anyone name the other one? I had to look it up and would not have guessed it.Wow, surprised to see Brogdon is retiring, per Shams. Seemed like he had a few more years at a productive level in him.
has there ever been a wider gap between fan and player perceptions of an individual NBA player?Westbrook signs with the Kings. I haven’t been this uninterested in watching a Kings team play since probably 2008-2009. And I obviously have a tolerance for bad basketball. Such a gross collection of players.
"Giannis reportedly interested in life without the Bucks"Yeah, something like that is what it would have to be. Bucks would probably want to move Towns to another team. I'm not sure what his market is with his salary so high. Knicks have traded away many of their first rounders. Four for Bridges! Overall, I'm not sure they'd have a worthwhile package to offer the Bucks.from a cap standpoint, wouldn’t kat straight or kat and a guy like kolek work? bucks would likely want some draft capital, no?Shams wrote an article about Giannis being possibly interested in the Knicks. However, I don’t see how the Knicks have the assets for such a trade without including Brunson. Maybe Towns could be routed to a third team or something. Bucks would want to blow things up, I assume.
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Why Giannis Antetokounmpo's future in Milwaukee is far from settled
In a transformative summer for the Bucks, the team had discussions about moving the two-time MVP to New York.www.espn.com
From a Bucks fan perspective, it seems to me Shams has been trying to move Giannis out of Milwaukee for a couple years now, reporting one after another rumor about almost-done deals and such. I get that the Bucks and Giannis may have to part ways at some point but there is no reasonable trade proposal that makes sense between the Bucks and Knicks. They're not going to give up Giannis for a veteran role player on a massive contract. I thought maybe someone like Houston had a shot with some young talent and loads of draft picks to give up for a win-now shot.
For me, the greater concern is that he reportedly moved his wife and kids to Athens ("permanently") earlier this summer. He's a big family guy so this doesn't bode well for a long-term future in the upper midwest. Maybe next from Shams is the Bucks cutting a deal with Panathinaikos.
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Antetokounmpo Family, Sans Giannis, Moving Permanently to Athens - tovima.com
Mariah and Giannis Antetokounmpo’s four children have already moved into custom-built penthouse in a new apartment complex that will also house the NBA superstar's brothers and motherwww.tovima.com
Based on the reporting, he's not quite a cancer but none of his teammates on the last few teams he was on were sad to see him leave. I actually think he would have been a perfect fit as a backup PG to Fox on the Kings the last couple of years, but throwing him out there with all the other me-first gunners this team has is going to be a trainwreck.has there ever been a wider gap between fan and player perceptions of an individual NBA player?Westbrook signs with the Kings. I haven’t been this uninterested in watching a Kings team play since probably 2008-2009. And I obviously have a tolerance for bad basketball. Such a gross collection of players.
fans hate Westbrook.. his teammates love him and say he's great to play with.
Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
There was a stretch, maybe with the Lakers, where I thought he would be out of the league soon. But my impression is he is much less of a negative since then.has there ever been a wider gap between fan and player perceptions of an individual NBA player?Westbrook signs with the Kings. I haven’t been this uninterested in watching a Kings team play since probably 2008-2009. And I obviously have a tolerance for bad basketball. Such a gross collection of players.
fans hate Westbrook.. his teammates love him and say he's great to play with.
Simmons nailed it today when he called it a Patrick Williams contract. Lot of money for a guy who is just a guy.A 4 who can defend and shoot and is 25 years old and never misses games for 16% of the cap is not crazy. Also might bot all be guaranteed, though it is bartelstein, so he probably got it allI’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
Weird take. Murray is a better player in every way than Williams.Simmons nailed it today when he called it a Patrick Williams contract. Lot of money for a guy who is just a guy.A 4 who can defend and shoot and is 25 years old and never misses games for 16% of the cap is not crazy. Also might bot all be guaranteed, though it is bartelstein, so he probably got it allI’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
I guess I can understand preferring to live in Athens over Milwaukee regardless of where you were raised.a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
She's from California. She played volleyball at Rice and took a job with the NBA summer league, which is where she met Giannis (I think).
I think soa local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?
Keegan Murray has done ten times what Williams had done when he got that contractSimmons nailed it today when he called it a Patrick Williams contract. Lot of money for a guy who is just a guy.A 4 who can defend and shoot and is 25 years old and never misses games for 16% of the cap is not crazy. Also might bot all be guaranteed, though it is bartelstein, so he probably got it allI’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.
True, UGA football games are the bestI guess I can understand preferring to live in Athens over Milwaukee regardless of where you were raised.a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
She's from California. She played volleyball at Rice and took a job with the NBA summer league, which is where she met Giannis (I think).
go BobcatsTrue, UGA football games are the bestI guess I can understand preferring to live in Athens over Milwaukee regardless of where you were raised.a local gal, no? from Milwaukee.... area or something?Reading about her for the first time, I was surprised to learn she is an American. I wouldn't have guessed that after initially reading that she would stay in Greece without him. But, obviously, they are free to do whatever they think is best.and i took him moving his wife and kids to Greece as more a statement of the current political climate than anything related to the NBA
She's from California. She played volleyball at Rice and took a job with the NBA summer league, which is where she met Giannis (I think).
What am I missing here? I know PER isn’t the end all/be all but he’s had 3 seasons of PER that were 12.4, 13.3 and 12. League average player is like 15. My point is a bad team is committing a decent amount of money to what is likely not even a league average starter.Keegan Murray has done ten times what Williams had done when he got that contractSimmons nailed it today when he called it a Patrick Williams contract. Lot of money for a guy who is just a guy.A 4 who can defend and shoot and is 25 years old and never misses games for 16% of the cap is not crazy. Also might bot all be guaranteed, though it is bartelstein, so he probably got it allI’m sorry is this not crazy to anybody elseESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Kings have extended Keegan Murray on a five-year, $140 million contract.