2025 College Football Thread: “Lane won’t do the same thing he’s done for 18 years to us!” LSU says to itself (26 Viewers)

[Instinctive]

So:
Ole Miss misses playoffs now?
or
Please put us on their side of the bracket! Especially OU for a little rematch...

 

[Sparky Polastri]

If an undefeated FSU can be removed from the playoffs for losing a QB, shouldn't an 11-1 Ole Miss be removed for losing their coach and entire offensive staff and potentially some players too?

Good point but i would argue that not only is this ole miss team better than that fsu team but their resume is also better. The acc is a joke of a confernce and has been for a long time

Argue as you wish, but talking about conferences instead of the individual teams makes little to no sense, especially in this context. The conference isn't assigned the spot in the playoff, the teams are

If an undefeated FSU can be removed from the playoffs for losing a QB, shouldn't an 11-1 Ole Miss be removed for losing their coach and entire offensive staff and potentially some players too?

Good point but i would argue that not only is this ole miss team better than that fsu team but their resume is also better. The acc is a joke of a confernce and has been for a long time

lol that fsu team had Jared Verse and Brandon Fiske starting on that defensive line, is the NFC west that they are dominating a joke too?

FSU also beat LSU and Florida that year.

I didnt say they didnt have any good players.

The acc is lucky to have 2 good teams at the same time. Its been that way for like 20 years. You dont even have one this year.

I don’t care about the acc this year or most years. That 2023 fsu team was awesome and got jobbed by the committee. The defense could have kept them in against anybody.

Agree to disagree. I saw a first round exit for that team. Most likely in blowout fashion. No one wants to watch that. Thats why they were excluded.

I don't know why you quoted me on this line. You choose whatever subjective criteria you want, but "I think this thing might happen in the future and I don't want to watch that" probably takes the cake on the "hot takes" circuit. Not sure I've ever heard a decision like that being made based on predicting what might happen in the future. There's literally no way to discuss that in any sort of objective way. Well done.

He's a long time known SEC guy. He has 16 favorite teams. Pointless to even discuss football with him.

Ahhhhhh....thanks for the tip.

 

[GregR]

Kiffin to LSU official.

Ian Rapoport (@rapsheet.bsky.social)

Lane is LSU-bound

bsky.app

I was hoping to complete a historic six season run with this year's team leading Ole Miss through the playoffs... My request to do so was denied by Keith Carter despite the team also asking him to allow me to keep coaching them...

Such a classy guy throwing shade in his going away note.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Sounds like it’s Fitz to MSU
New walkout music is working at the car wash

On point hire for MSU. lol

 

[Summer Wheat]

Sounds like it’s Fitz to MSU
New walkout music is working at the car wash

On point hire for MSU. lol

Might not please the fans but seems like a decent hire as it was going to be tough to get a top HC to go to MSU. Lot of competition in the BIG and the program is in shambles.

 

[bigbottom]

Well that’s game. But I have to say that I’m pretty happy with how USC played in this one. Over 300 passing yards against the No. 2 passing defense, and despite the results, the defense actually did a bit better than I expected given Oregon’s vaunted rushing offense (and our suspect D). And all of the massive injuries definitely made this an uphill battle for the Trojans from the start.

Beat UCLA next week for a 9-3 season, close the books on the no. 1 recruiting class for 2026, and I’ll be okay with how the season went.

Good luck Oregon. I hope you run the table in the playoffs.

USC has a great passing offense for sure. Both teams were short handed with injuries today. Oregon had their starting center, starting left tackle and starting right tackle go out injured today which really hurt their running game.

Is the UCLA game at home? I think you are a lock for winning our bet lol.

Well, pretty anti-climactic, but I guess 9-3 is an improvement over last year’s 6-6 regular season for USC. Next year’s schedule looks brutal with OSU, Indiana, Oregon all on the schedule in addition to Penn State and Washington and a possible matchup with Notre Dame. While I am optimistic about 2027 with the ‘26 recruiting class in their second year, I do not have high hopes for 2026 and think Riley could be gone without a really solid showing.

In any event, time to collect on my bet, though not much joy given how things turned out. Rather than sending me the payment, how about a donation to C4H? You’ll get a tax deduction. Best of luck to Oregon in the playoffs! I’m hoping you all run the table.

https://chanceforhopefoundation.org/ (Scroll to the bottom for the donation button)

 

[Chadstroma]

ESPN: Kiffin expected to sign with LSU on Sunday according to sources, 7 years and $12m a year. Deal hasn't been signed yet though.

Rumor is that Kiffin is threatening to poach players and coaches if Ole Miss doesn't let him coach out the season.

F that. Like he's not going to do that anyway? There is no way Ole Miss should let him coach out the season.

Again, just rumors.

Why people want this guy so badly is beyond me. Yes he had a great season this year but there are plenty of bad/mediocre ones in his past. He’s simply not good enough for all this ruckus.

I don’t wish ill will on LSU, but as an outsider looking in, it would be funny if they go from a $100M mistake to an $84M one back to back.

I wish on Lane (nothing bad to him personally, just professionally) can not stand the guy. I don't think he has a genuine bone in his body.

He will never win a championship at ole miss. Why hate on him for moving to a place he can? Should be noted like half the jobs he moved on from he was fired. Was not his choice

Not this move... a career of being a douche.

 

[Schmeabs]

Well that’s game. But I have to say that I’m pretty happy with how USC played in this one. Over 300 passing yards against the No. 2 passing defense, and despite the results, the defense actually did a bit better than I expected given Oregon’s vaunted rushing offense (and our suspect D). And all of the massive injuries definitely made this an uphill battle for the Trojans from the start.

Beat UCLA next week for a 9-3 season, close the books on the no. 1 recruiting class for 2026, and I’ll be okay with how the season went.

Good luck Oregon. I hope you run the table in the playoffs.

USC has a great passing offense for sure. Both teams were short handed with injuries today. Oregon had their starting center, starting left tackle and starting right tackle go out injured today which really hurt their running game.

Is the UCLA game at home? I think you are a lock for winning our bet lol.

Well, pretty anti-climactic, but I guess 9-3 is an improvement over last year’s 6-6 regular season for USC. Next year’s schedule looks brutal with OSU, Indiana, Oregon all on the schedule in addition to Penn State and Washington and a possible matchup with Notre Dame. While I am optimistic about 2027 with the ‘26 recruiting class in their second year, I do not have high hopes for 2026 and think Riley could be gone without a really solid showing.

In any event, time to collect on my bet, though not much joy given how things turned out. Rather than sending me the payment, how about a donation to C4H? You’ll get a tax deduction. Best of luck to Oregon in the playoffs! I’m hoping you all run the table.

https://chanceforhopefoundation.org/ (Scroll to the bottom for the donation button)

Congrats on the win. I am happy to make a $100 donation but I could also just Venmo or PayPal you the cash.

Can't wait to see how these playoffs match-ups come out.

 

[Jayded]

This Kiffin news is such a bummer for the kids at Ole Miss. I have no dog in this fight, but it is unfortunate given all of the stuff surrounding this that there can't be a better way. Feels like college football is missing it's tampering rule like the NFL has.

If you want Kiffin, fine, but you can't hire him until the playoffs are over. That might mean you miss the signing period or need to reconsider when the spring period is, but something akin to that has to be done to align these timelines sensibly or this will certainly not be the last time a school is put in a bad position.

I would like to additionally point out that this is all Brian Kelly's fault. He now not only hosed LSU, but his stinking at his job has now affected a second SEC program's chances in 2025. Solid job Brian.

 

[DJackson10]

This Kiffin news is such a bummer for the kids at Ole Miss. I have no dog in this fight, but it is unfortunate given all of the stuff surrounding this that there can't be a better way. Feels like college football is missing it's tampering rule like the NFL has.

If you want Kiffin, fine, but you can't hire him until the playoffs are over. That might mean you miss the signing period or need to reconsider when the spring period is, but something akin to that has to be done to align these timelines sensibly or this will certainly not be the last time a school is put in a bad position.

I would like to additionally point out that this is all Brian Kelly's fault. He now not only hosed LSU, but his stinking at his job has now affected a second SEC program's chances in 2025. Solid job Brian.

People can hate Kiffin all they want in this. Be more mad at College football & NCAA system here. It sucks. It screws the athletes over but when did the NCAA care about that as long as they are making a profit off of them?

 

[Summer Wheat]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

 

[Moe.]

Kiffin is a dumbass but what's new. Just keep your pants on until the season is over and you had a shot at a title. If this changes the transfer and recruiting windows it will help. Some.

Yeah this is the real issue. It’s not an option for him to keep his mouth shut, finish the season at Ole Miss, and then make a decision in the offseason. Ole Miss wouldn’t allow that - they basically gave him a deadline and forced him into a decision, no? He pretty much has to decide now because of the way it’s all setup.

 

[Moe.]

Seems crazy to me that LSU would allow Kiffin to coach Ole Miss for the rest of the season even if Ole Miss agreed, which would be a ridiculous thing for Ole Miss to do. That was lame of Kiffin to put that on the Ole Miss AD.

I don’t see why it should change anything with respect to Ole Miss and the CFP. Maybe some coaches jump now but the players won’t until after the season.

 

[culdeus]

Seems crazy to me that LSU would allow Kiffin to coach Ole Miss for the rest of the season even if Ole Miss agreed, which would be a ridiculous thing for Ole Miss to do. That was lame of Kiffin to put that on the Ole Miss AD.

I don’t see why it should change anything with respect to Ole Miss and the CFP. Maybe some coaches jump now but the players won’t until after the season.

It's not going to change their status, but will be funny if they happen to win the title and he's blackout drunk on Bourbon st

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Seems crazy to me that LSU would allow Kiffin to coach Ole Miss for the rest of the season even if Ole Miss agreed, which would be a ridiculous thing for Ole Miss to do. That was lame of Kiffin to put that on the Ole Miss AD.

I don’t see why it should change anything with respect to Ole Miss and the CFP. Maybe some coaches jump now but the players won’t until after the season.

Ole Miss has 0 wins this year without Kiffin. This is the same BS narrative pushed when FSU got screwed on the Jordan Travis injury.

 

[GregR]

Well that’s game. But I have to say that I’m pretty happy with how USC played in this one. Over 300 passing yards against the No. 2 passing defense, and despite the results, the defense actually did a bit better than I expected given Oregon’s vaunted rushing offense (and our suspect D). And all of the massive injuries definitely made this an uphill battle for the Trojans from the start.

Beat UCLA next week for a 9-3 season, close the books on the no. 1 recruiting class for 2026, and I’ll be okay with how the season went.

Good luck Oregon. I hope you run the table in the playoffs.

USC has a great passing offense for sure. Both teams were short handed with injuries today. Oregon had their starting center, starting left tackle and starting right tackle go out injured today which really hurt their running game.

Is the UCLA game at home? I think you are a lock for winning our bet lol.

Well, pretty anti-climactic, but I guess 9-3 is an improvement over last year’s 6-6 regular season for USC. Next year’s schedule looks brutal with OSU, Indiana, Oregon all on the schedule in addition to Penn State and Washington and a possible matchup with Notre Dame. While I am optimistic about 2027 with the ‘26 recruiting class in their second year, I do not have high hopes for 2026 and think Riley could be gone without a really solid showing.

In any event, time to collect on my bet, though not much joy given how things turned out. Rather than sending me the payment, how about a donation to C4H? You’ll get a tax deduction. Best of luck to Oregon in the playoffs! I’m hoping you all run the table.

https://chanceforhopefoundation.org/ (Scroll to the bottom for the donation button)

Are you doing another casino night thing? Was that in December last year if I'm remembering right?

 

[GregR]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

So here's how I see the bolded.

There have always been schools who brought in the better players than others. Some of it was tradition. Some of current buzz. And for some of it was because they broke the rules and outspent other schools.

Now that it's in the open, I don't think anything changes in terms of there being haves and have nots. Just the identities of which schools are which may change based on the booster's resources and willingness.

But one thing that I think will be a big change is that teams won't be able to sit there 4 levels of the depth chart deep with top recruits like an Alabama used to have under Saban. They won't have the money to pay those guys to sit for 2-3 years waiting their turn to start. They will have the freedom to transfer, and someone else is going to be willing to pay similar money.

I think we'll see far more parity than we used to as a result. I don't like the college game going pro, frankly. But I don't think we'll see a loss of interest overall.

 

[culdeus]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

So here's how I see the bolded.

There have always been schools who brought in the better players than others. Some of it was tradition. Some of current buzz. And for some of it was because they broke the rules and outspent other schools.

Now that it's in the open, I don't think anything changes in terms of there being haves and have nots. Just the identities of which schools are which may change based on the booster's resources and willingness.

But one thing that I think will be a big change is that teams won't be able to sit there 4 levels of the depth chart deep with top recruits like an Alabama used to have under Saban. They won't have the money to pay those guys to sit for 2-3 years waiting their turn to start. They will have the freedom to transfer, and someone else is going to be willing to pay similar money.

I think we'll see far more parity than we used to as a result. I don't like the college game going pro, frankly. But I don't think we'll see a loss of interest overall.

Texas Tech, Vandy, GT and a lesser extent Indiana even benefited from being able to showcase talent at an elevated NIL price.

It is not at all clear this path and appetite is sustainable

 

[Chadstroma]

ESPN: Kiffin expected to sign with LSU on Sunday according to sources, 7 years and $12m a year. Deal hasn't been signed yet though.

Rumor is that Kiffin is threatening to poach players and coaches if Ole Miss doesn't let him coach out the season.

F that. Like he's not going to do that anyway? There is no way Ole Miss should let him coach out the season.

Again, just rumors.

Why people want this guy so badly is beyond me. Yes he had a great season this year but there are plenty of bad/mediocre ones in his past. He’s simply not good enough for all this ruckus.

I don’t wish ill will on LSU, but as an outsider looking in, it would be funny if they go from a $100M mistake to an $84M one back to back.

I wish on Lane (nothing bad to him personally, just professionally) can not stand the guy. I don't think he has a genuine bone in his body.

He will never win a championship at ole miss. Why hate on him for moving to a place he can? Should be noted like half the jobs he moved on from he was fired. Was not his choice

Also... I seem to recall another coach that "couldn't win it all" at a school and left there for a school that he could. I will have to try to look it up to see how that all panned out. I mean, it would be crazy if his replacement took the team to the Championship game while he struggled and got fired. That would be too crazy that you couldn't make up a fictional story like that if you tried.

 

[bigbottom]

Well that’s game. But I have to say that I’m pretty happy with how USC played in this one. Over 300 passing yards against the No. 2 passing defense, and despite the results, the defense actually did a bit better than I expected given Oregon’s vaunted rushing offense (and our suspect D). And all of the massive injuries definitely made this an uphill battle for the Trojans from the start.

Beat UCLA next week for a 9-3 season, close the books on the no. 1 recruiting class for 2026, and I’ll be okay with how the season went.

Good luck Oregon. I hope you run the table in the playoffs.

USC has a great passing offense for sure. Both teams were short handed with injuries today. Oregon had their starting center, starting left tackle and starting right tackle go out injured today which really hurt their running game.

Is the UCLA game at home? I think you are a lock for winning our bet lol.

Well, pretty anti-climactic, but I guess 9-3 is an improvement over last year’s 6-6 regular season for USC. Next year’s schedule looks brutal with OSU, Indiana, Oregon all on the schedule in addition to Penn State and Washington and a possible matchup with Notre Dame. While I am optimistic about 2027 with the ‘26 recruiting class in their second year, I do not have high hopes for 2026 and think Riley could be gone without a really solid showing.

In any event, time to collect on my bet, though not much joy given how things turned out. Rather than sending me the payment, how about a donation to C4H? You’ll get a tax deduction. Best of luck to Oregon in the playoffs! I’m hoping you all run the table.

https://chanceforhopefoundation.org/ (Scroll to the bottom for the donation button)

Are you doing another casino night thing? Was that in December last year if I'm remembering right?

No casino night. That must be a different charity you are thinking of. We do have our annual gala at House of Blues in Houston coming up in April 2026.

 

[GregR]

Well that’s game. But I have to say that I’m pretty happy with how USC played in this one. Over 300 passing yards against the No. 2 passing defense, and despite the results, the defense actually did a bit better than I expected given Oregon’s vaunted rushing offense (and our suspect D). And all of the massive injuries definitely made this an uphill battle for the Trojans from the start.

Beat UCLA next week for a 9-3 season, close the books on the no. 1 recruiting class for 2026, and I’ll be okay with how the season went.

Good luck Oregon. I hope you run the table in the playoffs.

USC has a great passing offense for sure. Both teams were short handed with injuries today. Oregon had their starting center, starting left tackle and starting right tackle go out injured today which really hurt their running game.

Is the UCLA game at home? I think you are a lock for winning our bet lol.

Well, pretty anti-climactic, but I guess 9-3 is an improvement over last year’s 6-6 regular season for USC. Next year’s schedule looks brutal with OSU, Indiana, Oregon all on the schedule in addition to Penn State and Washington and a possible matchup with Notre Dame. While I am optimistic about 2027 with the ‘26 recruiting class in their second year, I do not have high hopes for 2026 and think Riley could be gone without a really solid showing.

In any event, time to collect on my bet, though not much joy given how things turned out. Rather than sending me the payment, how about a donation to C4H? You’ll get a tax deduction. Best of luck to Oregon in the playoffs! I’m hoping you all run the table.

https://chanceforhopefoundation.org/ (Scroll to the bottom for the donation button)

Are you doing another casino night thing? Was that in December last year if I'm remembering right?

No casino night. That must be a different charity you are thinking of. We do have our annual gala at House of Blues in Houston coming up in April 2026.

Ah it was the Speakeasy Soiree in April, yes. Somehow my brain turned it into a casino night in December. Now I remember though, it was the same day as my eye surgery was why I couldn't make it.

 

[Phil Elliott]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

And the collaboration with ESPN is over the top. Pretty sure this move has been in the works for several months. There was no way he was going to Florida and Strickland. That was just to raise the ante. Kiffin said he had to pray on the decision but didn't give his coaches any time to pray on it. Used Saban and Carroll as scapegoats. Trolled with posts about his dad and his fig, "Juice" (which really isn't his and got left behind). I was a big Kiffin supporter this year until this weekend. Not faulting him for taking another job but the way he played out the weekend.

"Experience comes from making bad decisions.
Making good decisions comes from experience"

Kiffin is still in the "experience phase".

 

[Harry Frogfish]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

So here's how I see the bolded.

There have always been schools who brought in the better players than others. Some of it was tradition. Some of current buzz. And for some of it was because they broke the rules and outspent other schools.

Now that it's in the open, I don't think anything changes in terms of there being haves and have nots. Just the identities of which schools are which may change based on the booster's resources and willingness.

But one thing that I think will be a big change is that teams won't be able to sit there 4 levels of the depth chart deep with top recruits like an Alabama used to have under Saban. They won't have the money to pay those guys to sit for 2-3 years waiting their turn to start. They will have the freedom to transfer, and someone else is going to be willing to pay similar money.

I think we'll see far more parity than we used to as a result. I don't like the college game going pro, frankly. But I don't think we'll see a loss of interest overall.

Texas Tech, Vandy, GT and a lesser extent Indiana even benefited from being able to showcase talent at an elevated NIL price.

It is not at all clear this path and appetite is sustainable

I agree with you and Greg Are.

What an unbelievable cost to hold onto the good old days. Which are no longer.

The dumbest rich school collective will be the ones who "win" the most contests going forward. Congrats?

 

[Summer Wheat]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

So here's how I see the bolded.

There have always been schools who brought in the better players than others. Some of it was tradition. Some of current buzz. And for some of it was because they broke the rules and outspent other schools.

Now that it's in the open, I don't think anything changes in terms of there being haves and have nots. Just the identities of which schools are which may change based on the booster's resources and willingness.

But one thing that I think will be a big change is that teams won't be able to sit there 4 levels of the depth chart deep with top recruits like an Alabama used to have under Saban. They won't have the money to pay those guys to sit for 2-3 years waiting their turn to start. They will have the freedom to transfer, and someone else is going to be willing to pay similar money.

I think we'll see far more parity than we used to as a result. I don't like the college game going pro, frankly. But I don't think we'll see a loss of interest overall.

Texas Tech, Vandy, GT and a lesser extent Indiana even benefited from being able to showcase talent at an elevated NIL price.

It is not at all clear this path and appetite is sustainable

I agree with you and Greg Are.

What an unbelievable cost to hold onto the good old days. Which are no longer.

The dumbest rich school collective will be the ones who "win" the most contests going forward. Congrats?

Problem is there are no rules in place. The days of the so called "student-athlete" are long gone. They have probably been gone for a while. So why make kids go to class? Just pay them to play football or whatever sport at Ohio State. Alabama, LSU whatever school.

Pay the athletes and save the scholarships for kids who actually have the grades to earn one.

When is the last time we heard a player was ineligible for poor classroom performance?

 

[Desert_Power]

So does LSU have to buy Lane's contract out with Ole Miss?

 

[bigbottom]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

 

[Capella]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

These kinds of games are ALWAYS overlooked without fail and it drives me crazy

I'm sorry Texas, but you haven't been good enough to be in the playoff all year. It wasn't just one game.

 

[Chadstroma]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

And the collaboration with ESPN is over the top. Pretty sure this move has been in the works for several months. There was no way he was going to Florida and Strickland. That was just to raise the ante. Kiffin said he had to pray on the decision but didn't give his coaches any time to pray on it. Used Saban and Carroll as scapegoats. Trolled with posts about his dad and his fig, "Juice" (which really isn't his and got left behind). I was a big Kiffin supporter this year until this weekend. Not faulting him for taking another job but the way he played out the weekend.

"Experience comes from making bad decisions.
Making good decisions comes from experience"

Kiffin is still in the "experience phase".

This is par for course with Kiffin. A good coach, horrible person.

 

[Instinctive]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

It's a fun sidestep but what's your opinion on the question he actually asked?

 

[thecatch]

So does LSU have to buy Lane's contract out with Ole Miss?

Yes, $4 million apparently.

 

[culdeus]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

Texas is still out of the SEC title game with or without OSU. They beat OSU they are in the playoffs. They don't lose to Florida and they are (maybe) in the SECCG.

Losing two regular season games in your conference is gonna sting without a good OOC win which they don't have.

You can also spin this that they already lost to two playoff teams. Would a neutral site change that result? Probably not.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Sounds like it’s Fitz to MSU

Excellent hire imo, I don't think they could have done much better.

 

[Chadstroma]

So does LSU have to buy Lane's contract out with Ole Miss?

Yes, $4 million apparently.

Schools need to insist on bigger buyouts.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

UVA plays Duke in the ACC championship game. If UVA wins they will get into the CFP.

Interestingly, if Duke wins they might get passed over for a group of 5 team. The rules don't allow another top conference team into the CFP (ie Miami). But the weakest top conference champion can get dropped for a group of 5. In this case 10-1 James Madison, who is a solid team but has beaten nobody noteworthy.

I think UVA handles this game easily. Quite a mess though if JMU gets in with their best win being maybe against a 5-6 Wash State team

 

[Sparky Polastri]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the answer is clearly yes. The talking heads are already bending over backwards and tying themselves in pretzel logic to justify them in now. Sadly, it's different for USC. None of the talking heads had USC ranked in a way that would suggest "potential playoff team" at the beginning of the year and sadly, yes, I think that matters. I've heard two people (both females and I don't have any idea who they are. One on NBC and one on CBS) say maybe it's not a good idea to have those polls that early in the year because it appears very difficult for pollsters to shake their confirmation biases.

 

[bigbottom]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

Texas is still out of the SEC title game with or without OSU. They beat OSU they are in the playoffs. They don't lose to Florida and they are (maybe) in the SECCG.

Losing two regular season games in your conference is gonna sting without a good OOC win which they don't have.

You can also spin this that they already lost to two playoff teams. Would a neutral site change that result? Probably not.

So imagine Texas doesn’t lose to OSU and instead beats some mid-level out of conference team of no consequence. They are 10-2 with losses to unranked Florida and 3rd ranked Georgia (using AP ranking for now). They have wins over #7 ranked A&M, #8 ranked Oklahoma and #13 Vanderbilt. And yes, they have a couple very close wins against seemingly inferior opponents in the mix (but wins nonetheless). Do you think they make the playoffs in that instance? If so, don’t you think this creates a disincentive to schedule tough OOC games?

 

[AAABatteries]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

It's a fun sidestep but what's your opinion on the question he actually asked?

I think they would be in because of what the talking heads thought of them and the hype around Manning. And some really good wins.

On the opposite side of the coin - Miami probably only gets in (if they do) by beating Notre Dame. If that game was a cupcake and they were 10-2 with losses to Louisville and SMU and no real marquee wins then they probably get left out for sure. Providing that as evidence against not scheduling tough OOC games.

 

[bigbottom]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

It's a fun sidestep but what's your opinion on the question he actually asked?

Yeah, I’m not trying to make an argument in favor of Texas. I’m exploring the consequence of their decision to schedule OSU and how that may impact how other teams schedule their OOC games from here on out, particularly with the SEC dropping from 4 such games to 3.

 

[bigbottom]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

It's a fun sidestep but what's your opinion on the question he actually asked?

I think they would be in because of what the talking heads thought of them and the hype around Manning. And some really good wins.

On the opposite side of the coin - Miami probably only gets in (if they do) by beating Notre Dame. If that game was a cupcake and they were 10-2 with losses to Louisville and SMU and no real marquee wins then they probably get left out for sure. Providing that as evidence against not scheduling tough OOC games.

Really good point.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I think the playoff incentivizes you not to lose to the worst Florida team in the last 30 years, lose by 4 touchdowns to Georgia and need OT to beat those crap Kentucky and Miss State teams.

Everybody is looking at that Ohio State game wrongly. The incentive there wasn’t to avoid a loss, it was to gain a victory that would have clinched a playoff spot for them. That loss with the rest of their results should keep them out.

They are the only team with 3 top15 wins and if they had skipped OSU to play a cupcake and were 10-2, they would essentially be a lock like Alabama (who has the bad loss to FSU on their resume). The rankings seem to reflect who you lost to instead of who you beat.

Nothing against BYU but they have one good win against Utah and Utah has not beaten anyone good. They weren't even competitive in their game against Texas Tech. BYU should not be ranked ahead of Miami, ND, Texas, Alabama, or probably Vanderbilt.

 

[AAABatteries]

I will say, with all the complaining we do (including me) about how they are ruining the game, the playoff seems to be completely up in the air as far as who will win. I think we are going to reach levels of parity that we have never seen previously within the next few years. Outside of the ACC champ and whoever gets in from the G5, I could see any of the other teams winning one or multiple games. OSU, Indiana, Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ole Miss - 10 teams that I think could win a game or two on a neutral field. Honestly, I'd be totally fine if they took Miami and Texas as 11/12. I know they can't, but I think those are most likely the 12 best teams and would be a pretty epic playoff. I don't need to see Tulane, Virginia/Duke or JMU get the crap beat out of them.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Bob Chesney to UCLA

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I will say, with all the complaining we do (including me) about how they are ruining the game, the playoff seems to be completely up in the air as far as who will win. I think we are going to reach levels of parity that we have never seen previously within the next few years. Outside of the ACC champ and whoever gets in from the G5, I could see any of the other teams winning one or multiple games. OSU, Indiana, Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ole Miss - 10 teams that I think could win a game or two on a neutral field. Honestly, I'd be totally fine if they took Miami and Texas as 11/12. I know they can't, but I think those are most likely the 12 best teams and would be a pretty epic playoff. I don't need to see Tulane, Virginia/Duke or JMU get the crap beat out of them.

We need a P2 playoff, a Big 12/ACC playoff, and a G5 playoff. You can put the AAC with the Big 12 and ACC for all I care. But it's three entirely different levels of football financially.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

U bias in full swing, 5 loss Duke team in the ACC Championship is a joke
Miami should be the team the ACC wants to send or showcase, they have two potential top 10 NFL picks, and everyone needs to meet Malachi Toney
The committee has no plans on inviting Miami with an at large bid, they've been prepping the viewing audience for weeks this was gonna be the outcome

 

[Moe.]

I think the marquee OOC games will continue with little thought about the impact to playoff chances. We're moving to 16 sooner rather than later, there is money to be made here fellas. Just wait until the PE guys get their hands on this thing and really wring it out from the inside.

This year's Texas team is clearly in at 10-2, but it doesn't work that way - who knows how the rest of their season would have played out with a game against Purdue week 1 instead of Ohio State. ADs would be foolish to deprive their fans of these matchups due to concerns about the postseason.

 

[AAABatteries]

I will say, with all the complaining we do (including me) about how they are ruining the game, the playoff seems to be completely up in the air as far as who will win. I think we are going to reach levels of parity that we have never seen previously within the next few years. Outside of the ACC champ and whoever gets in from the G5, I could see any of the other teams winning one or multiple games. OSU, Indiana, Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ole Miss - 10 teams that I think could win a game or two on a neutral field. Honestly, I'd be totally fine if they took Miami and Texas as 11/12. I know they can't, but I think those are most likely the 12 best teams and would be a pretty epic playoff. I don't need to see Tulane, Virginia/Duke or JMU get the crap beat out of them.

We need a P2 playoff, a Big 12/ACC playoff, and a G5 playoff. You can put the AAC with the Big 12 and ACC for all I care. But it's three entirely different levels of football financially.

I would like that idea as long as it doesn't block those other teams from being eligible - meaning, unless/until the SEC raids the ACC for Clemson, FSU and Miami I don't think those schools (or even our school) should be on the outside looking in by default. Not sure how to reconcile it without blowing up the conferences and hurting other sports - which some of us still care about. But your idea is kind of like the NIT in basketball and that would be kind of fun, I think. Miami, Vandy, USC, BYU, Utah, Michigan, Texas and GT (homer pick) playing a 8 team P2 playoff would be kind of cool.

 

[bigbottom]

I think the marquee OOC games will continue with little thought about the impact to playoff chances. We're moving to 16 sooner rather than later, there is money to be made here fellas. Just wait until the PE guys get their hands on this thing and really wring it out from the inside.

This year's Texas team is clearly in at 10-2, but it doesn't work that way - who knows how the rest of their season would have played out with a game against Purdue week 1 instead of Ohio State. ADs would be foolish to deprive their fans of these matchups due to concerns about the postseason.

I think a lot of thought will be given to the issue, though keeping the marquee matchup may ultimately win out. USC is pissing off half their hard core fan base over the Notre Dame issue.

 

[DJackson10]

College Football as we knew it is gone forever. I can see fans slowly losing interest in what now is Professional football.

Hard to watch teams when players and coaches jump ship every year. Bigger schools will outspend others for players.

So here's how I see the bolded.

There have always been schools who brought in the better players than others. Some of it was tradition. Some of current buzz. And for some of it was because they broke the rules and outspent other schools.

Now that it's in the open, I don't think anything changes in terms of there being haves and have nots. Just the identities of which schools are which may change based on the booster's resources and willingness.

But one thing that I think will be a big change is that teams won't be able to sit there 4 levels of the depth chart deep with top recruits like an Alabama used to have under Saban. They won't have the money to pay those guys to sit for 2-3 years waiting their turn to start. They will have the freedom to transfer, and someone else is going to be willing to pay similar money.

I think we'll see far more parity than we used to as a result. I don't like the college game going pro, frankly. But I don't think we'll see a loss of interest overall.

Texas Tech, Vandy, GT and a lesser extent Indiana even benefited from being able to showcase talent at an elevated NIL price.

It is not at all clear this path and appetite is sustainable

I agree with you and Greg Are.

What an unbelievable cost to hold onto the good old days. Which are no longer.

The dumbest rich school collective will be the ones who "win" the most contests going forward. Congrats?

Problem is there are no rules in place. The days of the so called "student-athlete" are long gone. They have probably been gone for a while. So why make kids go to class? Just pay them to play football or whatever sport at Ohio State. Alabama, LSU whatever school.

Pay the athletes and save the scholarships for kids who actually have the grades to earn one.

When is the last time we heard a player was ineligible for poor classroom performance?

There were stories I heard from my friends at PSU about Paterno intimidating professors to pass his players to be eligible. A buddy of mine played LAX at FSU and they were letting guys play football that didn’t pass their final HS exams like SATs and all. I’m sure there’s more. NCAA just doesn’t care if they are making $$$ off of it unless it becomes a problem PR wise like Sandusky/PSU.

 

[DJackson10]

If Texas had played another cupcake instead of OSU, would they be in the playoffs? If USC, like several of its Big 10 colleagues, had played three cupcakes instead of including Notre Dame, would they be in the playoffs? Or at least not decisively out? Is the playoff structure even further incentivizing schools to avoid marquee out of conference matchups?

I’d honestly hold a negative against teams for playing lesser opponents. Incentivize and award teams for playing stronger schedules. Yrs ago it made more sense to play cupcakes. The SEC for a long time was top dog and most would argue that the bottom 3–4 SEC teams would do well in other power 5 conferences and better then the worst 3-4 teams in those conferences.

I’d also hold against ND for being an Independent best they could do is a top seeded home game no bye.