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2025 Detroit Lions: 5-2 Lions beat Bucs with 4th string secondary. (57 Viewers)

It takes one bad week to throw someone under the bus, but a friggin decade to recognize greatness. Brad Holmes has already proven to be awesome. The Lions have out drafted every team in the league and it is not even thst close. The Stafford trade brought in a boat load of talent. The Lions have perhaps the best roster in the NFL. This is stupid to even argue

No one is saying Holmes isn't great. They haven't out drafted everyone by a mile, and drafting isn't the only part of the job.

You just said he is three times better than everyone one else in the league. Shouldn't their roster not be perhaps the best in the league, but three times better? At least twice as good and then you in an odd way compared him to one of the five best players ever in the MLB who has done it for almost a decade and is on thr verge of leading his team to their second straight title.
 
Love watching this team. Glad they’re so good now that I get to see them in lots of nationally televised games.

Was loving Gibbs lighting up Tampa Bay this week, and then I said to my brother, “now they’re going to batter them with Montgomery “. What a great offense.

And man, The D shut down the vaunted (though hobbled at WR) TB offense and Mayfield. Love the vibe of your D Coord with those dreads on the sideline and hyped up as hell.

Keep on keepin on!
 
In four short years Brad Holmes has taken a laughing stock of a franchise and turned it into arguably the best roster in the league. It blows my mind that actual Lion fans spend their energy criticizing him. Is he perfect…nope. However, based on my first sentence I am more than content on the job he has done as I know what worse looks like. 5-2 and looking good this year, I am not missing the pre-Holmes era one bit.
 
Raiders fan checking in again….

Is this what it’s like to be a top team in the NFL? Arguing over the definition of “greatness”? Count me in!

Go Lions!
Most of us are used to being lower than the Raiders are now. So we might be a little spoiled.
Campbell makes errors about going for it. Holmes has missed on 3rd rounders. Like every Detroit team, there's been a focus on their own guys instead of Free Agents. Ben Johnson made mistakes. Aaron Glenn made mistakes. Somehow they've gone 32-9 (34-11including postseason) the last 2 1/2 years despite all this.
 
Love watching this team. Glad they’re so good now that I get to see them in lots of nationally televised games.

Was loving Gibbs lighting up Tampa Bay this week, and then I said to my brother, “now they’re going to batter them with Montgomery “. What a great offense.

And man, The D shut down the vaunted (though hobbled at WR) TB offense and Mayfield. Love the vibe of your D Coord with those dreads on the sideline and hyped up as hell.

Keep on keepin on!

Any chance the are moving on from Crosby? *fingers crossed*
 
Love watching this team. Glad they’re so good now that I get to see them in lots of nationally televised games.

Was loving Gibbs lighting up Tampa Bay this week, and then I said to my brother, “now they’re going to batter them with Montgomery “. What a great offense.

And man, The D shut down the vaunted (though hobbled at WR) TB offense and Mayfield. Love the vibe of your D Coord with those dreads on the sideline and hyped up as hell.

Keep on keepin on!

Any chance the are moving on from Crosby? *fingers crossed*
Honestly, Maxx is the next in a long line great Raiders who are the ONLY great player on the roster and their career is wasted on a crappy team. The Raiders would be doing him a great favor to send him to a team that can actually compete.
 
Love watching this team. Glad they’re so good now that I get to see them in lots of nationally televised games.

Was loving Gibbs lighting up Tampa Bay this week, and then I said to my brother, “now they’re going to batter them with Montgomery “. What a great offense.

And man, The D shut down the vaunted (though hobbled at WR) TB offense and Mayfield. Love the vibe of your D Coord with those dreads on the sideline and hyped up as hell.

Keep on keepin on!

Any chance the are moving on from Crosby? *fingers crossed*
Honestly, Maxx is the next in a long line great Raiders who are the ONLY great player on the roster and their career is wasted on a crappy team. The Raiders would be doing him a great favor to send him to a team that can actually compete.
I thought I read that they are not going to trade him. Crosby has said repeatedly that he wants to stay with the Raiders. They could get a haul if they moved him.
 
In four short years Brad Holmes has taken a laughing stock of a franchise and turned it into arguably the best roster in the league. It blows my mind that actual Lion fans spend their energy criticizing him. Is he perfect…nope. However, based on my first sentence I am more than content on the job he has done as I know what worse looks like. 5-2 and looking good this year, I am not missing the pre-Holmes era one bit.
:goodposting:

It sure is a lot more fun arguing about whether they need one more piece to win the Super Bowl vs arguing about when they should fire their coach or who they should take with their Top 5 pick.

Brad Holmes has done a spectacular job. If we don't get a Super Bowl out of this run, it would be a bummer, but it will still be the greatest run of Lions teams in my lifetime.
 
In four short years Brad Holmes has taken a laughing stock of a franchise and turned it into arguably the best roster in the league. It blows my mind that actual Lion fans spend their energy criticizing him. Is he perfect…nope. However, based on my first sentence I am more than content on the job he has done as I know what worse looks like. 5-2 and looking good this year, I am not missing the pre-Holmes era one bit.
:goodposting:

It sure is a lot more fun arguing about whether they need one more piece to win the Super Bowl vs arguing about when they should fire their coach or who they should take with their Top 5 pick.

Brad Holmes has done a spectacular job. If we don't get a Super Bowl out of this run, it would be a bummer, but it will still be the greatest run of Lions teams in my lifetime.
Everyone agrees on this. The problem is there are some who feel you are no longer allowed to question Brad for all he's done.
I have said it 100 times, you can enjoy the ride, appreciate the team and think Brad is doing a great job and STILL be critical.
Most fans in every other sports town do it. Here in Detroit it seems you cannot question Brad or Yzerman without being asked to move out of the state.
 
In four short years Brad Holmes has taken a laughing stock of a franchise and turned it into arguably the best roster in the league. It blows my mind that actual Lion fans spend their energy criticizing him. Is he perfect…nope. However, based on my first sentence I am more than content on the job he has done as I know what worse looks like. 5-2 and looking good this year, I am not missing the pre-Holmes era one bit.
:goodposting:

It sure is a lot more fun arguing about whether they need one more piece to win the Super Bowl vs arguing about when they should fire their coach or who they should take with their Top 5 pick.

Brad Holmes has done a spectacular job. If we don't get a Super Bowl out of this run, it would be a bummer, but it will still be the greatest run of Lions teams in my lifetime.
Everyone agrees on this. The problem is there are some who feel you are no longer allowed to question Brad for all he's done.
I have said it 100 times, you can enjoy the ride, appreciate the team and think Brad is doing a great job and STILL be critical.
Most fans in every other sports town do it. Here in Detroit it seems you cannot question Brad or Yzerman without being asked to move out of the state.

You can criticize Brad all you want. But I can criticize asinine statements too. Things like we can't call Brad Holmes great until he wins two Super Bowls. Or talking about they must go all in now because the window is going to close. Or that Brad Homes does not understand the importance of a pass rush. Or that there is some sort of football formula that must be followed to win and Brad is not following it.

Brad Holmes has done an absolutely outstanding job, an A+ by any reasonable standard. Nobody has drafts where you 4 players the quality of a Penei, St. Brown, Alim, and Barnes. Or four players like like Gibbs, Jack Campbell, LaPorta, and Branch. Nobody. I would love to hear all about all these better draft classes than those by all the great GMs from other teams. These were incredible hauls that every single GM is envious of. I could not care less about a missed picks like Brodrick Martin or a Hendon Hooker. The draft is a fortune-telling crap shoot and Holmes is an absolute wizard at getting it right far more than not.

Yes, i absolutely love what Shiela, Dan and Brad built here. Detroit is a juggernaut other teams are afraid to play, a team that has been on everyone's list of top contentenders for the Super Bowl the last few years. Brad and Dan have a vision and plan for this team and they have earned 100 percent trust of the fan base who has endured decades of brutaly bad football.
 
In four short years Brad Holmes has taken a laughing stock of a franchise and turned it into arguably the best roster in the league. It blows my mind that actual Lion fans spend their energy criticizing him. Is he perfect…nope. However, based on my first sentence I am more than content on the job he has done as I know what worse looks like. 5-2 and looking good this year, I am not missing the pre-Holmes era one bit.
:goodposting:

It sure is a lot more fun arguing about whether they need one more piece to win the Super Bowl vs arguing about when they should fire their coach or who they should take with their Top 5 pick.

Brad Holmes has done a spectacular job. If we don't get a Super Bowl out of this run, it would be a bummer, but it will still be the greatest run of Lions teams in my lifetime.
Everyone agrees on this. The problem is there are some who feel you are no longer allowed to question Brad for all he's done.
I have said it 100 times, you can enjoy the ride, appreciate the team and think Brad is doing a great job and STILL be critical.
Most fans in every other sports town do it. Here in Detroit it seems you cannot question Brad or Yzerman without being asked to move out of the state.

You can criticize Brad all you want. But I can criticize asinine statements too. Things like we can't call Brad Holmes great until he wins two Super Bowls. Or talking about they must go all in now because the window is going to close. Or that Brad Homes does not understand the importance of a pass rush. Or that there is some sort of football formula that must be followed to win and Brad is not following it.

Brad Holmes has done an absolutely outstanding job, an A+ by any reasonable standard. Nobody has drafts where you 4 players the quality of a Penei, St. Brown, Alim, and Barnes. Or four players like like Gibbs, Jack Campbell, LaPorta, and Branch. Nobody. I would love to hear all about all these better draft classes than those by all the great GMs from other teams. These were incredible hauls that every single GM is envious of. I could not care less about a missed picks like Brodrick Martin or a Hendon Hooker. The draft is a fortune-telling crap shoot and Holmes is an absolute wizard at getting it right far more than not.

Yes, i absolutely love what Shiela, Dan and Brad built here. Detroit is a juggernaut other teams are afraid to play, a team that has been on everyone's list of top contentenders for the Super Bowl the last few years. Brad and Dan have a vision and plan for this team and they have earned 100 percent trust of the fan base who has endured decades of brutaly bad football.

What about where you make up the entire first paragraph? What do we call that?
 

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