2025 Las Vegas Raiders thread - ☠ Everyone is 0-0 ☠ (11 Viewers)

[Sarlakticacid]

Brock "All Business" Bowers.
Brock "The Biz" Bowers
Brock "Big Business" Bowers.

Third one sounds like he clogs toilets on the regular.

Big Jobs Bowers!!

 

[LawFitz]

Bowser

 

[Hankmoody]

I'm just gonna call him The Brock.

 

[lakerstan]

Is Mr. Personality taken?

 

[Chadstroma]

Brock The Destroyer of Worlds

 

[Chadstroma]

Reports from Donkeyland has Nix stinking it up and being outplayed by Stidham

 

[Chadstroma]

I didn't realize that Jakobi Meyers was a UDFA entering the league.

 

[ZADO]

14th. Las Vegas Raiders​

How good the Las Vegas Raiders defense will be in 2024 might come down to cornerback Jack Jones. After being scooped up off waivers from the New England Patriots, Jones held opponents to a 63.0 QB rating with a 56.3 percent completion rate when he wore a Raiders uniform. If he replicates that, Las Vegas has a No. 1 cornerback and that will go a long way.

Just one difference-maker in coverage who can line up against top receivers will make life even easier for the quarter of Maxx Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Malcolm Koonce and Tyree Wilson. We’ll also put out the reminder that this same Raiders defense held opponents to an 84.0 QB rating with 39 sacks and a 13-12 TD-INT line in its final 13 games last year.

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[Chadstroma]

14th. Las Vegas Raiders​

How good the Las Vegas Raiders defense will be in 2024 might come down to cornerback Jack Jones. After being scooped up off waivers from the New England Patriots, Jones held opponents to a 63.0 QB rating with a 56.3 percent completion rate when he wore a Raiders uniform. If he replicates that, Las Vegas has a No. 1 cornerback and that will go a long way.

Just one difference-maker in coverage who can line up against top receivers will make life even easier for the quarter of Maxx Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Malcolm Koonce and Tyree Wilson. We’ll also put out the reminder that this same Raiders defense held opponents to an 84.0 QB rating with 39 sacks and a 13-12 TD-INT line in its final 13 games last year.

NFL defense rankings 2025: Evaluating all 32 defenses ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

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14th.... just wait....

 

[Chadstroma]

“Don’t worry about our quarterbacks, worry about yours,” ~ AP

 

[joey]

“Don’t worry about our quarterbacks, worry about yours,” ~ AP

I’m not much for macho bravado, but this is awesome.

(Of course, we need to back it up).

 

[Chadstroma]

“Don’t worry about our quarterbacks, worry about yours,” ~ AP

I’m not much for macho bravado, but this is awesome.

(Of course, we need to back it up).

I love this.... there is no doubt that the defense is the star. I hope we can use the weapons we have to be efficient on offense..... whether that happens rests on three questions.... 1) Does O'Connell (or Minshew) step up. I think we know what Minshew is, which I would say is a guy that is a top end backup who can come in and get creative and do just enough to win but O'Connell has potential. How much of a step forward does he make? 2) Is Getsy the real deal or was his time in Chicago what we have to expect? 3) How do our rookies to 3rd year players step or or not... White, Mayer, Bowers, Mayer, Tucker, Munford, Parham, and Powers-Johnson. The play of these men as a group will have make or break impact on this offense. Do the rookies come in and kick rear right away, do the returning players all take steps up on their play? Or not.

But our defense..... man.... I can't wait for this defense to take the field.

 

[Chadstroma]

Let's check my excitement....

Answer me this: Is there a better DL group in the NFL on any other team?

 

[kaso]

Let's check my excitement....

Answer me this: Is there a better DL group in the NFL on any other team?

The Raiders are right up there with the top units, no doubt. Others in that group Cleveland, Cincy (although they are getting older), Detroit (maybe), Houston (Depending on Hunter being able to maintain his play), Jets deserve to be mentioned.

I think the excitement about having a strong front 4 is different for us, because we aren't used to it,

 

[massraider]

Answer me this: Is there a better DL group in the NFL on any other team?

Top 3, for sure.

Tell me Tyree takes a big step, and it's #1.

 

[Chadstroma]

Answer me this: Is there a better DL group in the NFL on any other team?

Top 3, for sure.

Tell me Tyree takes a big step, and it's #1.

Agreed... Wilson making progress makes this group elite top of the league and would go a long way to making us the top defense too.

 

[Bruno2]

14th. Las Vegas Raiders​

How good the Las Vegas Raiders defense will be in 2024 might come down to cornerback Jack Jones. After being scooped up off waivers from the New England Patriots, Jones held opponents to a 63.0 QB rating with a 56.3 percent completion rate when he wore a Raiders uniform. If he replicates that, Las Vegas has a No. 1 cornerback and that will go a long way.

Just one difference-maker in coverage who can line up against top receivers will make life even easier for the quarter of Maxx Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Malcolm Koonce and Tyree Wilson. We’ll also put out the reminder that this same Raiders defense held opponents to an 84.0 QB rating with 39 sacks and a 13-12 TD-INT line in its final 13 games last year.

NFL defense rankings 2025: Evaluating all 32 defenses ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

Who has the best defense in the NFL? Our NFL defense rankings analyze D/ST with our weekly rankings of the best NFL defenses in 2025.

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14th.... just wait....

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I gotta vent. The National media hate has hit a new high. Just heard some moron named Justin Pugh with Solomon Wilcots onXM Radio saying “Oakland “ should tank for a QB so they can beat KC. Don’t people do their research before they come on the radio? Who was the last team to beat the Chiefs?
I’m just fine with everyone sleeping on the Raiders, I’d actually prefer it. But the bias and the hate in the media has gotten out of control.

 

[Chadstroma]

14th. Las Vegas Raiders​

How good the Las Vegas Raiders defense will be in 2024 might come down to cornerback Jack Jones. After being scooped up off waivers from the New England Patriots, Jones held opponents to a 63.0 QB rating with a 56.3 percent completion rate when he wore a Raiders uniform. If he replicates that, Las Vegas has a No. 1 cornerback and that will go a long way.

Just one difference-maker in coverage who can line up against top receivers will make life even easier for the quarter of Maxx Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Malcolm Koonce and Tyree Wilson. We’ll also put out the reminder that this same Raiders defense held opponents to an 84.0 QB rating with 39 sacks and a 13-12 TD-INT line in its final 13 games last year.

NFL defense rankings 2025: Evaluating all 32 defenses ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

Who has the best defense in the NFL? Our NFL defense rankings analyze D/ST with our weekly rankings of the best NFL defenses in 2025.

sportsnaut.com

14th.... just wait....

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I gotta vent. The National media hate has hit a new high. Just heard some moron named Justin Pugh with Solomon Wilcots onXM Radio saying “Oakland “ should tank for a QB so they can beat KC. Don’t people do their research before they come on the radio? Who was the last team to beat the Chiefs?
I’m just fine with everyone sleeping on the Raiders, I’d actually prefer it. But the bias and the hate in the media has gotten out of control.

Wasn't he a teammate of AP's?

 

[Bruno2]

14th. Las Vegas Raiders​

How good the Las Vegas Raiders defense will be in 2024 might come down to cornerback Jack Jones. After being scooped up off waivers from the New England Patriots, Jones held opponents to a 63.0 QB rating with a 56.3 percent completion rate when he wore a Raiders uniform. If he replicates that, Las Vegas has a No. 1 cornerback and that will go a long way.

Just one difference-maker in coverage who can line up against top receivers will make life even easier for the quarter of Maxx Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Malcolm Koonce and Tyree Wilson. We’ll also put out the reminder that this same Raiders defense held opponents to an 84.0 QB rating with 39 sacks and a 13-12 TD-INT line in its final 13 games last year.

NFL defense rankings 2025: Evaluating all 32 defenses ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

Who has the best defense in the NFL? Our NFL defense rankings analyze D/ST with our weekly rankings of the best NFL defenses in 2025.

sportsnaut.com

14th.... just wait....

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I gotta vent. The National media hate has hit a new high. Just heard some moron named Justin Pugh with Solomon Wilcots onXM Radio saying “Oakland “ should tank for a QB so they can beat KC. Don’t people do their research before they come on the radio? Who was the last team to beat the Chiefs?
I’m just fine with everyone sleeping on the Raiders, I’d actually prefer it. But the bias and the hate in the media has gotten out of control.

Wasn't he a teammate of AP's?

Come to think of it, he was an Olineman for the Giants when AP was there.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I gotta vent. The National media hate has hit a new high. Just heard some moron named Justin Pugh with Solomon Wilcots onXM Radio saying “Oakland “ should tank for a QB so they can beat KC. Don’t people do their research before they come on the radio?

The answer is only the most diligent people do their research and know what they are talking about. This includes radio, tv and social media. I stay amazed at the number of people putting out podcasts that are fraught with wrong information.

I recently heard a podcaster say the Titans may attempt the most passes in franchise history this coming season. The guy proceeded that prediction by saying he was a life-long Titans fans. LMAO! I guess he never heard of Warren Moon.

 

[ICON211]

Some guy on ESPN graded the Raiders offseason as a D because they didn't trade Adams and "overpaid" for Wilkins. I'd give it a B+.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Some guy on ESPN graded the Raiders offseason as a D because they didn't trade Adams and "overpaid" for Wilkins. I'd give it a B+.

That ESPN guy is fairly clueless on a lot of them, so you may be right.

 

[massraider]

Like it's an easy thing to do, trade Adams.
He's not 26 years old, his salary balloons next year. Plus, he ain't going anywhere he doesn't want to at this point. Keep the good leader and excellent player.

He knows after this year his contract is untenable, but if they sign Dak next year, for example, maybe he sticks around.

Devante is older, but he ain't falling off yet. Most likely he's released, but not impossible he sticks around. He had chances to ask to leave, he didn't.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Some guy on ESPN graded the Raiders offseason as a D because they didn't trade Adams and "overpaid" for Wilkins. I'd give it a B+.

And didn’t draft the QB who was taken Multiple spots before their first pick

 

[Bruno2]

Some guy on ESPN graded the Raiders offseason as a D because they didn't trade Adams and "overpaid" for Wilkins. I'd give it a B+.

And didn’t draft the QB who was taken Multiple spots before their first pick

Nor were they willing to mortgage the future of the franchise for a rookie QB. And that was only if they were able to find a trade partner.

 

[Chadstroma]

Some guy on ESPN graded the Raiders offseason as a D because they didn't trade Adams and "overpaid" for Wilkins. I'd give it a B+.

And didn’t draft the QB who was taken Multiple spots before their first pick

Not picking any QB in desperation and instead going BPA was a winning move.

 

[ZADO]

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but I gotta vent. The National media hate has hit a new high. Just heard some moron named Justin Pugh with Solomon Wilcots onXM Radio saying “Oakland “ should tank for a QB so they can beat KC. Don’t people do their research before they come on the radio?

The answer is only the most diligent people do their research and know what they are talking about. This includes radio, tv and social media. I stay amazed at the number of people putting out podcasts that are fraught with wrong information.

I recently heard a podcaster say the Titans may attempt the most passes in franchise history this coming season. The guy proceeded that prediction by saying he was a life-long Titans fans. LMAO! I guess he never heard of Warren Moon.

I just laugh and move on from these idiots .

Better to just sit back and let things play out in the manner i think we all expect it to ....with the Raiders being the biggest surprise NFL team of the year .

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Gardner Minshew’s chaotic Raiders photoshoot keeps getting better with every picture

God bless Gardner Minshew.

www.sbnation.com

 

[Chadstroma]

Gardner Minshew’s chaotic Raiders photoshoot keeps getting better with every picture

God bless Gardner Minshew.

www.sbnation.com

Dude is an old school Raider character, no doubt.

 

[Chadstroma]

Raiders WR Tre Tucker's Offseason Growth Has Been Noticeable​

Story by Ezekiel Trezevan

The Las Vegas Raiders’ wide receiver unit is arguably one of the deepest positions on the offensive side of the ball and undoubtedly one of the deepest units on the whole team. The unit is led by All-Pro wide receiver Davante Adams, who is paired with veteran wide receiver Jakobi Meyers.

While those two receivers proved to be a formidable duo last season, after registering his first year of play in the National Football League, improving this offseason, and the Raiders added a new offensive coordinator, the second-year wide receiver has been impressive in practices this offseason, many are starting to take notice. That includes Meyers, who says Tucker has done the work this offseason.

“My boy Tre, he’s catching the ball better,” Meyers said. “He’s always been fast, so he might be a little bit slower. Don’t tell him I said that. He really playing a good football right now. I'm proud of him, just the person he is off the field too. He shows up every day and do his work.”

Raiders Wide Receivers Coach Edgar Bennett echoed Meyers' sentiments. The position coach notes Tucker’s work ethic has been great. Bennett says Tucker has been willing to learn and get better this offseason.

"Continues to improve day by day,” Bennett said. “He's so mature for a young player, and he showed that last year. He never really hit a rookie wall. That's something that was impressive with him, just his attitude, his work ethic, and his approach. I mean, he takes it serious as though he wants to be the best, and you see it every time he comes into the building. That's his preparation. He's stayed in a routine, which was obviously helpful for rookie players last year, but he continues to show improvements."

Passing Game Coordinator Scott Turner also notes how impressive Tucker's offseason has been. Turner says Tucker has the skills to be successful in the NFL, but he thinks Turner needed to prove it to himself first. After an offseason of growth, Turner believes Tucker has another level to reach this season.

"Trey [Tucker] was impressive last year, and he's had an outstanding offseason for us,” Turner said. “Towards the end of the year, he was an every down player, but one of those guys it's out there -- the receiver's not going to be 100% of snaps but 65-70% of the snaps.

“And just being able to do the whole route tree because he has it in him, and obviously, you guys know that he can run. But he can stop and then be consistent in catching the football, which he showed as the year went on. But just continue to grow in really all aspects of it, playing fast, playing with confidence.

“I think a lot of times, young players get in this league, and you have to kind of prove to yourself that, 'Alright, I can play this league.' And I think that he did that. And then once that happens, kind of the governor comes off and you see how good can these guys truly be."

 

[Chadstroma]

One Raiders QB 'has the slight edge' in competition, says NFL insider​

Story by Mike Moraitis

The biggest storyline of the Las Vegas Raiders' offseason has been and will continue to be the quarterback competition, which is between veteran Gardner Minshew and 2023 fourth-round pick, Aidan O'Connell.

Based on spring practice reports from beat writers on the ground, neither signal-caller really established themselves as the favorite for the job ahead of training camp, as the pair struggled most days. Having to learn a new offense and facing off against a very good defense likely contributed to that.

But, according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, O'Connell "probably has the slight edge," and he has a big fan in wide receiver Davante Adams, which can only help his chances of securing the starting job.

"O'Connell and Minshew in the spring went *** for tat; went after it. O'Connell probably has the slight edge right now based on coming into Year 2, being more vocal," Fowler said. "I'm told he's acting like a starting quarterback and Davante Adams loves him, which always helps certainly with the brownie points."

Fowler also had this to say about Minshew:

"But Minshew has come in, shown some moxie. He's already got the offense, he's changing plays at the line of scrimmage, I'm told," Fowler said. "He's been good at the off-script stuff."

Many have pegged Minshew as the favorite thanks to his free-agent deal and overall advantage in experience. But O'Connell is a total wild card, as we simply don't know how big of a leap he'll take in Year 2 after a strong finish to his rookie campaign.

Fowler went on to say that both quarterbacks could each get a preseason start, which would not be surprising considering how close things are. Look for this competition to run through training camp and right up until the start of the season.

 

[Chadstroma]

Raiders depth chart: James Cregg finding the right mix on offensive line​

Story by Ray Aspuria

A stay in Sin City with another team for James Cregg parlayed itself into an opportunity to lead his own unit.

“I was obviously at San Francisco last year, we were playing in the Super Bowl here in Vegas,” Cregg began, “So I came to Vegas, I didn’t know I was going to be staying in Vegas.”
The former 49ers assistant offensive line coach is now full-fledged Las Vegas Raiders offensive line coach. Turns out, that prep time San Francisco’s prep time in Las Vegas for their Super Bowl matchup with the AFC West dominating Kansas City Chiefs gave Cregg plenty of tape and time to examine the Silver & Black — particularly since the Raiders win over the Chiefs Christmas Day was film Cregg and 49ers offensive line boss Chris Foerster watched — provided Cregg great insight to the coachability of the Raiders front line.

Cregg liked what he saw from afar and when he got the call, he was more than eager to jump at the chance to be the chef to cook up Las Vegas’ offensive line in 2024.

“And I was watching those guys for two weeks just on tape, and I saw it. And then soon as I got a call from Luke Getsy to see if I’d be interested in taking this opportunity, I jumped at it because I watched what I saw on the tape,” Cregg noted. “I saw Thayer Munford. I saw those kinds of guys like that. I saw Andre James. I saw all those guys. Kolton (Miller) was the missing piece in that game, but I know Kolton Miller, I’ve seen a ton of his film. I didn’t think twice about it. It’s a great opportunity for me, and I’m excited as heck to work with these guys. It’s going to be cool, man. I can’t wait.”
Cregg wasted little time acclimating himself to the Raiders personnel in the trenches. The offensive line has long been the lifeblood of any NFL offense and with Luke Getsy the new play caller on offense, Cregg’s unit becomes an integral part to what Las Vegas intends to do offensively. As Cregg mentioned, Miller at left tackle remains a stalwart piece of the group up front. The team also brought back James on a new contract to man the pivot while drafting a bruiser type youngster in Jackson Powers-Johnson and versatile prospect DJ Glaze to bolster a group that features Dylan Parham and Thayer Munford as projected starters. Las Vegas did well to bring in veterans Cody Whitehair (31) and Andrus Peat (30) via free agency to compete for spots at guard, too.

Cregg’s tinkering and finding the right mix along the offensive line will continue when the team reconvenes for training camp later in July, but the line boss already made a swap on the right side of the group with Parham, who was the starter at left guard, sliding over to the right.

“Yeah, first of all very athletic young man got a good, strong lower body to him, obviously has the strength and quickness to go along with what we want. And like you just said he has that experience from last year,” Gregg said about Parham. “I think he’s grown quite a bit from last season, obviously I wasn’t around him that much, but I could see it right now how he learns, how he’s developing, and I think that’s a huge asset for him on that right side with Thayer.”

That was the first clue-in to the move as teams will often experiment with different combos along the offensive line to find the right grouping in OTA’s and mandatory minicamps. The Raiders last regime continued to move pieces up front even at the start of the regular season last year to find the proper grouping, for example. So Parham at right guard could’ve just been tinkering. But according to Cregg, that’s where Parham fits best due to the the scheme Cregg is installing that best suits Getsy’s offense.

“Yeah, just watching him and doing what we’re doing, we run more wide zone and things like that and he’s just more natural, especially him being a center,” Parham expanded on Parham. “Sometimes centers are more natural being right-handed guys than they are left-handed guys for whatever reason, and he he’s just more natural moving over there. And we just liked the way his footwork was better over there and things like that. The game was more natural for him over there, that’s why we moved him.”
Look at that: Putting a player in the best possible position to succeed based on natural tendencies. Such a novel concept.

But that’s the common-sense nature that Cregg’s displayed throughout his tenure as a coach — a career that’s seen him run groups at the pro and collegiate level including a 2019 season where his LSU offensive line won the Joe Moore award for best O-line in college football and a 2020 campaign where LSU won a national championship.
Cregg will do more work to develop a solid starting five along the offensive line as competition will heat up at left guard and right tackle. With Parham sliding over to right, left is a position that can be claimed by Johnson-Powers, Whitehair, or Peat, with the runner-ups providing depth to the eventual starter. At right tackle, Munford has the inside track with Glaze slated to compete. Undrafted free agent Andrew Coker could get in the mix, too.

From watching film of the Raiders offensive line to being in charge of them, Cregg remains optimistic of the group and praised the groups ability to learn and adapt. Fortunately for the group, Cregg isn’t reinventing the wheel and some of the things the players did under the previous regime will remain.

“Yep. And we still do a little bit of what they do too. It’s funny, I don’t spend as much time drilling that, because they sort of know how to do it already,” Cregg noted. “So, I’m not going to spend my time doing something they already know, and I’m spending more time right now trying to implement our stuff with them because we do variations of what they did before and their technique is pretty sound with that, so I’m not really messing around with that right now"

That’ll come in due time — most likely training camp and beyond.

As we’ve stated before, this isn’t Cregg’s first rodeo as a Raiders coach.

He was an assistant offensive line coach under Tom Cable on head coach Lane Kiffin’s staff in 2007. Cregg would remain in 2008 after Kiffin’s dismissal and Cable was elevated to interim head coach. But Cregg ended up coaching Kiffin’s Tennessee Volunteers offensive line in 2009 with the duo going to USC together as offensive line coach and head coach from 2010 to 2013. Which means the tweet from Kiffin below when Cregg was hired to lead the Raiders offensive line this coming season came to no one’s surprise:

 

[Chadstroma]

Raiders TE Coach Luke Steckel Continues to Learn from the Coaches Around Him​

Story by Ezekiel Trezevant

After being named the Las Vegas Raiders head coach earlier this offseason, Coach Antonio Pierce filled out his coaching staff with coaches who have many years of experience under their belts. One of those coaches was Tight Ends Coach Luke Steckel, who joined the Raiders earlier this offseason after spending time with new Raiders Offensive Coordinator Luke Getsy with the Chicago Bears last season.

“I've been real fortunate in my career to work in every position room on offense,” Steckel said. “The offensive line was kind of the last one to check off on the list and got an opportunity to work in that room last year and it really is a different world. It's a different perspective. Those five big guys up front, the way they approach the game, and the reads and calls they have to make on every single play is a lot different from the skill positions, and I think it made me a better coach.

After spending time working with the Bears’ offensive line last season, Steckel says he’s excited for the opportunity to work in Las Vegas. He will take the lessons he’s learned over the last few seasons to help him in his new endeavor. Steckel credits Bears Offensive Line Coach Chris Morgan with helping make him a better coach.

“It expanded my vision of what offenses are looking to do to attack a defense, and it gave me a better appreciation for what those guys do up front,” Steckel said. “Chris Morgan is the offensive line coach in Chicago, and he's been in this league a long time and has a great reputation.

“I was very fortunate to learn under him for a year, and I hopefully can take what I learned last year and apply that to some of the stuff we do as tight ends in the run game, knowing how we help out in protection and where the o-line might have issues or where they need our help. It's really widened my perspective and given me a better appreciation for how everyone's tied together.”

In Las Vegas, Steckel coaches next to multiple coaches who have spent decades earning respect around the league, such as Assistant Coach Marvin Lewis. Steckel says Lewis’ reputation speaks for itself and that many younger coaches, such as himself, look to Lewis and the other more experienced coaches on the Raiders coaching staff for guidance.

“Talk about a guy who's just filled with so much wisdom and has been in this league and has so much experience,” Steckel said. “A lot of times you get the opportunity to ask them questions, and a lot of times you get the opportunity just to sit back and observe and just to watch the way he carries himself and how he's helped out everyone on the coaching staff from AP [Antonio Pierce] all the way down.”

“His presence in the building is definitely felt, and he's another guy whose reputation obviously precedes him. So, when he walks into this building, everyone is kind of watching him and following his example to some extent, and when he opens his mouth to say something, we're all listening. So, I've certainly learned a lot from Coach Lewis, and we're really grateful he's here.

 

[nightmare]

I'm going to post this and it's not going to go over to well. I watched The 2023 Jags vs Colts with Minshew going 33/55 305 yds
with 1 TD, 3 ints (could have been 5). He is a gamer but very few throws between the numbers. I remember 3 of those were
short dump offs to Taylor and Moss with no YAC. The outside throws were also very few YAC. Almost all the throws were
the same velocity. He does have a good deep ball but missed on a few of those.

NFL+ ($99/ year) gets you the condensed games., we're talking 45 minutes of non stop action.
Regular Broadcast games are 2 hours 15 minutes -give or take a few minutes.

Stats wise, Minshew looks decent but 6 years in he should have all the tools.
I'm going to watch the Browns game to see if it's game plan or him.
Against the Browns he goes 15/23 for 305, 2 TD/1 int and 3/29 rush with 2 TD's but 3 fumbles lost.

Some guys are drafting superflex leagues with a 3 Qb limit and if Minshew is not the stater, woe and woah to them.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

My eyes tell me Minshew is a jag. Serviceable if the supporting cast is strong, but doesn’t really offer much upside (as a player or fantasy option). It is the primary reason I believe the team will start AOC at QB and hope he fulfills the potential he flashed last year. If AOC flounders then the team will fall back to starting Minshew.

 

[LawFitz]

Luv Minch, but he's a high-end backup NFL QB at this stage, and nothing more. Small possibility he ascends like Gannon. Most likely though, he's just a fall-back stopgap, break glass in case of emergency AOC flop. And I'm good with exactly that.

 

[nightmare]

Good Gawd Cleveland's D and special teams are playoff caliber.

Minshew gets almost all of that 305 on 3 plays. 2 freebies(1 a TD), yes, the D stops playing and Minshew takes advantage.
Both plays were the defense getting drawn offsides and Minshew cranks it deep.
Minshew makes 1 NFL caliber deep throw for a TD to Pittman down the middle but the rest is Steichan's game plan of
Minshew rolling out and throwing. Minshew has 1 touch throw that J Taylor drops.

The int is a ball that should have never been thrown and the fumbles? 1 is on him, the other 2 I'll give it to the pass rush
being exceptional.

I'm going to watch at least one more just to scout other stuff.
A.O.C may be a statue but if he shows that he has NFL touch and timing it's over.

 

[Bruno2]

It’s AOC’s job to lose

 

[Chadstroma]

Minshew isn't a starting QB. He is a backup that can come in and keep the game going for you. His off script, scrappy, figure it out as you go style can give a defense fits especially when they prepared for a non-mobile, accurate thrower. However, that wears off as defenses prepare for him if you know he is the starter.

 

[DocHolliday]

Minshew isn't a starting QB. He is a backup that can come in and keep the game going for you. His off script, scrappy, figure it out as you go style can give a defense fits especially when they prepared for a non-mobile, accurate thrower. However, that wears off as defenses prepare for him if you know he is the starter.

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it. There are not enough great QBs for all 32 teams and the Raiders will try to cover up the lack of QB talent with a great D and run game. The Raiders made wise decisions in FA and in the draft, and can’t do anymore until next season. Just enjoy the defense this year and hope the Raiders can find a top 10 QB in the next year or two.

 

[Bruno2]

Minshew isn't a starting QB. He is a backup that can come in and keep the game going for you. His off script, scrappy, figure it out as you go style can give a defense fits especially when they prepared for a non-mobile, accurate thrower. However, that wears off as defenses prepare for him if you know he is the starter.

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it. There are not enough great QBs for all 32 teams and the Raiders will try to cover up the lack of QB talent with a great D and run game. The Raiders made wise decisions in FA and in the draft, and can’t do anymore until next season. Just enjoy the defense this year and hope the Raiders can find a top 10 QB in the next year or two.

While this is very true, I think there’s hope inside the organization that O’Connell can develop into a starting QB and win some games for them in Getsy’s offense. I go back to the embarrassing loss against Chicago last season when Bagent beat the Raiders. If AOC can play like that in Getsky’s offense they might be in a lot of games as long as the secondary holds up this year.

 

[LawFitz]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

 

[Chadstroma]

Minshew isn't a starting QB. He is a backup that can come in and keep the game going for you. His off script, scrappy, figure it out as you go style can give a defense fits especially when they prepared for a non-mobile, accurate thrower. However, that wears off as defenses prepare for him if you know he is the starter.

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it. There are not enough great QBs for all 32 teams and the Raiders will try to cover up the lack of QB talent with a great D and run game. The Raiders made wise decisions in FA and in the draft, and can’t do anymore until next season. Just enjoy the defense this year and hope the Raiders can find a top 10 QB in the next year or two.

While this is very true, I think there’s hope inside the organization that O’Connell can develop into a starting QB and win some games for them in Getsy’s offense. I go back to the embarrassing loss against Chicago last season when Bagent beat the Raiders. If AOC can play like that in Getsky’s offense they might be in a lot of games as long as the secondary holds up this year.

I do think there is hope in O'Connell. He showed a good amount from a rookie to take that and have higher expectations for him.

First, let's remember, he was buried on the depth chart with Jimmy "Linguine Arm" G at starter and then you had old man and never really good to begin with Hoyer over him. I don't know how many snaps he got in the off season and well into the season but I am pretty sure you could likely count it on your hands. He was drafted with the expectation that he would not see the field in his rookie year. Then he had a very complex system that he is trying to learn while watching on the sidelines in practice. Meanwhile, the entire team (well, maybe there was someone who didn't but it has to be darn close to nearly everyone) hates the HC.

He has a couple of shots at starting under those conditions and then he gets the starting job once everyone and their mother is fired that was closely connected to one of the worst HC hires ever. A 1st time OC taking an offense that isn't "his" and clearly needed to "change" is what he got mid season when he starts getting the starter snaps. Even with all of that, he ended up with 12/7 TD/INT and a 62% completion percentage. Lighting the world on fire numbers? No, but also not horrible and when you consider how his rookie season went, really not bad.

I watched a Youtube where the guy really dug into his pre-snap reads and showed how he was seeing what the defense was doing and played to that. He is an accurate thrower that I think he the head on this shoulders to understand an offense, see what defenses are doing and make quick decisions. His biggest negatives are that he that if he has a lengthy starting QB career- he likely will still not have more than 100 career rushing yards (He had 17 last season if you were wondering) and he did show he can get rattled by pressure.

Finally, the other positive for this offense is that they don't need him to carry the team. We have weapons that can help get the ball moving. Will he develop to a great QB... I dunno, that is a far bridge but I think there is a not insignificant chance he can improve to be a decent QB. With this defense, the weapons we have on offense- a decent QB is going to win us a lot of games.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

 

[ZADO]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

Sometimes we forget


voice of Purdue Football Tim Newton says Aidan O'Connell is the most accurate quarterback at Purdue since Drew Brees from 20 years ago.

Sports News, Podcasts, Rumors and Articles | SportSpyder

Draft Day: Aidan O'Connell Was Better than Drew Brees at Purdue​

O'Connell came to Purdue as a walk-on from Long Grove, Illinois.

He became a starter and over the past two seasons threw for more than 7,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. At 66.7 percent, O'Connell is the most accurate passer in Purdue history.


A pure pocket passer who excels at reading coverage and getting the ball out quickly. An intelligent, well-prepared player who can go through a read progression and consistently put the ball where he wants it. Above average arm strength he can get the ball outside the hashes with solid velocity. Natural accuracy down the field. Layers the ball over defenders with a good trajectory and a tight spiral. Keeps things on time. Will get it out in a hurry and sets his targets up for after-catch opportunities. He can throw receivers open versus man coverage and is accurate on route conversions. Minimal escape ability but flashes ability to move in the pocket.

 

[joey]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

Sometimes we forget


voice of Purdue Football Tim Newton says Aidan O'Connell is the most accurate quarterback at Purdue since Drew Brees from 20 years ago.

Sports News, Podcasts, Rumors and Articles | SportSpyder

Draft Day: Aidan O'Connell Was Better than Drew Brees at Purdue​

O'Connell came to Purdue as a walk-on from Long Grove, Illinois.

He became a starter and over the past two seasons threw for more than 7,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. At 66.7 percent, O'Connell is the most accurate passer in Purdue history.


A pure pocket passer who excels at reading coverage and getting the ball out quickly. An intelligent, well-prepared player who can go through a read progression and consistently put the ball where he wants it. Above average arm strength he can get the ball outside the hashes with solid velocity. Natural accuracy down the field. Layers the ball over defenders with a good trajectory and a tight spiral. Keeps things on time. Will get it out in a hurry and sets his targets up for after-catch opportunities. He can throw receivers open versus man coverage and is accurate on route conversions. Minimal escape ability but flashes ability to move in the pocket.

Now you’re gonna go and get me all optimistic. Ugh.

 

[DocHolliday]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

Sometimes we forget


voice of Purdue Football Tim Newton says Aidan O'Connell is the most accurate quarterback at Purdue since Drew Brees from 20 years ago.

Sports News, Podcasts, Rumors and Articles | SportSpyder

Draft Day: Aidan O'Connell Was Better than Drew Brees at Purdue​

O'Connell came to Purdue as a walk-on from Long Grove, Illinois.

He became a starter and over the past two seasons threw for more than 7,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. At 66.7 percent, O'Connell is the most accurate passer in Purdue history.


A pure pocket passer who excels at reading coverage and getting the ball out quickly. An intelligent, well-prepared player who can go through a read progression and consistently put the ball where he wants it. Above average arm strength he can get the ball outside the hashes with solid velocity. Natural accuracy down the field. Layers the ball over defenders with a good trajectory and a tight spiral. Keeps things on time. Will get it out in a hurry and sets his targets up for after-catch opportunities. He can throw receivers open versus man coverage and is accurate on route conversions. Minimal escape ability but flashes ability to move in the pocket.

Now you’re gonna go and get me all optimistic. Ugh.

And make me rethink my assessment. I am not falling for any hype in June. Im not getting my hopes up until I see AOC look like he’s going to live up to some of these really favorable comments.

I will happily admit I am wrong if the kid proves me wrong.

 

[massraider]

If the offensive line is improved, I think we can win games with him. I really don't have anything negative to say about his passing.

Randomly, this is an 'every throw' video of AOC--GIants

That's an NFL QB. Accurate, relentlessly accurate. The best throws were his underneath throws, where he places the ball so the receiver can run after catch. He's good at it. And golly, we just drafted Brock Bowers.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

Sometimes we forget


voice of Purdue Football Tim Newton says Aidan O'Connell is the most accurate quarterback at Purdue since Drew Brees from 20 years ago.

Sports News, Podcasts, Rumors and Articles | SportSpyder

Draft Day: Aidan O'Connell Was Better than Drew Brees at Purdue​

O'Connell came to Purdue as a walk-on from Long Grove, Illinois.

He became a starter and over the past two seasons threw for more than 7,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. At 66.7 percent, O'Connell is the most accurate passer in Purdue history.


A pure pocket passer who excels at reading coverage and getting the ball out quickly. An intelligent, well-prepared player who can go through a read progression and consistently put the ball where he wants it. Above average arm strength he can get the ball outside the hashes with solid velocity. Natural accuracy down the field. Layers the ball over defenders with a good trajectory and a tight spiral. Keeps things on time. Will get it out in a hurry and sets his targets up for after-catch opportunities. He can throw receivers open versus man coverage and is accurate on route conversions. Minimal escape ability but flashes ability to move in the pocket.

I am trying to think of who the Purdue QB's were during that span though. Kyle Orton is the only one I can think of in that span between them of note. Am I missing anyone?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

The Raiders don’t have a great QB on the roster and they know it.

I think they are plenty high on AOC. And they should be.

So weird the disrespect the guy gets from fans... Am I saying he's 'great?' No. Way too early to say that. Also too early to say he absolutely isn't.

I mean, he just isn't sexy... he looks a little goofy and his game is not sexy. He doesn't have a rocket arm or the ability to run the ball.... those are the things the average fan wants to see in a QB.

Sometimes we forget


voice of Purdue Football Tim Newton says Aidan O'Connell is the most accurate quarterback at Purdue since Drew Brees from 20 years ago.

Sports News, Podcasts, Rumors and Articles | SportSpyder

Draft Day: Aidan O'Connell Was Better than Drew Brees at Purdue​

O'Connell came to Purdue as a walk-on from Long Grove, Illinois.

He became a starter and over the past two seasons threw for more than 7,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. At 66.7 percent, O'Connell is the most accurate passer in Purdue history.


A pure pocket passer who excels at reading coverage and getting the ball out quickly. An intelligent, well-prepared player who can go through a read progression and consistently put the ball where he wants it. Above average arm strength he can get the ball outside the hashes with solid velocity. Natural accuracy down the field. Layers the ball over defenders with a good trajectory and a tight spiral. Keeps things on time. Will get it out in a hurry and sets his targets up for after-catch opportunities. He can throw receivers open versus man coverage and is accurate on route conversions. Minimal escape ability but flashes ability to move in the pocket.

I am trying to think of who the Purdue QB's were during that span though. Kyle Orton is the only one I can think of in that span between them of note. Am I missing anyone?

How dare you besmirch the legacy of Curtis Painter, sir?!

How DARE you?!