Hankmoody
Footballguy
Way too much, there are many other options for less.
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2025 Las Vegas Raiders thread - ☠ Everyone is 0-0 ☠ (3 Viewers)
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Ghost of AL likes this signing.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
That can't be right.... how does the Niners only have 3 4th's? They have lost their whole team.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Under rated guy. I picked him up in my fantasy leagues and when he isn't hurt have got great production out of him.
LawFitz
Footballguy
None of those three have Dowdle's combo of age, health and recent ascending success.
That said, I would have preferred Chubb or Dobbins over Mostert as low-cost injury bets. Sanders is a Mattison-type never was.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
They lost 6 guys and added Mac Jones, Luke Ferrell, and Demarcus Robinson, cancelling out their last 5th rounder (team only get a max of 4 awarded). Mac Jones cancels out a 5th round pick.
| Player lost | AAV | Likely pick gained | Likely pick cancelled | Player gained | AAV |
| Charvarius Ward | $20M | 4th | |||
| Aaron Banks | $19.25M | 4th | |||
| Talanoa Hufanga | $15M | 4th | |||
| Jaylon Moore | $15M | Mac Jones | $3.5M | ||
| Dre Greenlaw | $11.67M | Luke Farrell | $6.75M | ||
| Joshua Dobbs | $4M | Demarcus Robinson | $4.75M |
Chadstroma
Footballguy
This mumbo jumbo doesn't make sense to me. I will take your word for it.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Looks like Jaylon Moore could become a 4th comp pick (and potentially a 4th rounder), if any other Niner UFA signs for ~Luke Farrell / Mac Jones money. Not familiar with whom else they have left as unsigned UFAs.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
6 - 3 = 3 doesn't jive with you?This mumbo jumbo doesn't make sense to me. I will take your word for it.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Pretty likely Mac ends up falling off unless he gets huge snap counts. And if that happens Niners will be drafting top 5 and won't care about a lost 5th.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
enough with the stupid comp pick talks
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Nearly impossible to decouple them, they make a big impact on team building. If I told you we were trading a 5th round pick next year to sign a punter wouldn't that be important information? How about a 4th and a 5th for a punter and Cooper Rush?enough with the stupid comp pick talks
LawFitz
Footballguy
Raiders Free Agency Press Conference featuring the four new defenders signed:
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S Jeremy Chinn
S/CB Lonnie Johnson Jr.
CB Eric Stokes
LB Elandon Roberts
Love what these guys said about being recruited specifically by coach Pete. All four described opportunity to win significant roles on defense and confident intention to do so. Like it. Now make a few more opportunistic signings and a bunch of hungry, talented rookies in here to learn from and compete with these dudes and the returning talent on the roster.
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S Jeremy Chinn
S/CB Lonnie Johnson Jr.
CB Eric Stokes
LB Elandon Roberts
Love what these guys said about being recruited specifically by coach Pete. All four described opportunity to win significant roles on defense and confident intention to do so. Like it. Now make a few more opportunistic signings and a bunch of hungry, talented rookies in here to learn from and compete with these dudes and the returning talent on the roster.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I don't do math.6 - 3 = 3 doesn't jive with you?This mumbo jumbo doesn't make sense to me. I will take your word for it.
(don't check the notebook for what my profession is- thanks)
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i eagerly await the 213th and 215th picks this year. :bartscott: CAN'T WAIT!! :bartscott:Nearly impossible to decouple them, they make a big impact on team building. If I told you we were trading a 5th round pick next year to sign a punter wouldn't that be important information? How about a 4th and a 5th for a punter and Cooper Rush?enough with the stupid comp pick talks
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Simple. Let's do it.
ICON211
Footballguy
Only got 1-$5M. Disappointing he was not re-signed.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
terrible he was really good
Chaka
Footballguy
If I was running the franchise I would have offered to let him play for three years at yhe minimum. Not league minimum but Nevada minimum wage. Actually, no. I would offer the sub minimum wage and he could supplement his salary with tips.
Profit!
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Ohhhhh, I don’t like that at all. $1.5? Come on... we didn't offer that to him? That was a bad move.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
festival king is now the backup qb in kc
ICON211
Footballguy
Maybe my post was confusing. He got 1 year for $5M.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm okay with the Raiders not making a big splash in FA, well to be fair acquiring Geno was a big splash and I'm okay with that.
Letting a bunch of B-C players go is NBD IMO. Even Chaisson who seems like a good value at $5 mil IMO.
But the that bothers me is swapping Mostert for Mattison, who Miami signed and is over six years younger. It's a little bizarre and feels kinda directionless. Is Mostert such a better scheme fit or is it all about freeing up cap space for 2026? I didn't see the terms of either deal so I don't know.
It's a minor not to pick but I don't understand that particular move.
Letting a bunch of B-C players go is NBD IMO. Even Chaisson who seems like a good value at $5 mil IMO.
But the that bothers me is swapping Mostert for Mattison, who Miami signed and is over six years younger. It's a little bizarre and feels kinda directionless. Is Mostert such a better scheme fit or is it all about freeing up cap space for 2026? I didn't see the terms of either deal so I don't know.
It's a minor not to pick but I don't understand that particular move.
ICON211
Footballguy
Definitelty minor. Neither moves the needle for either team.
Moster 1 year $2.1M
Mattison - terms not disclosed yet
I'm not high on either, but I think Mostert has a higher ceiling than Mattison.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I think this is them believing that Chaisson's a jag that they can replace with someone else they bring in and coach up. I don't disbelieve it, we've seen some similar flashes in the past from Snowden and Robinson and with Graham and Leonard both back there's no reason to doubt them, but I still don't like it for only $5M. I'd love a swing at 24 year old Azeez Ojulari.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Elandon Roberts talks about being a student of the game as Quarterback of the Defense... https://youtu.be/TmTWvuV4tbc
Dude sounds very knowledgeable. Nine years in the league with Pats, Dophins, Steelers - homie has a ton of experience and looked best in his most recent years. Excited to see him finish out his career with a bang, this year, and hopefully more with the Raiders. Like the other three defensive signings for similar reasons. These dudes seem like underrated vets that Spytek and Pete swooped during the early phase - in calculated, targeted value shopping.
I'm a fan of saving big contracts mainly for in-house re-signings, after the player has been in the organization long enough to truly know the person; with the exception being if a known high-character, young legit talent hits the market somehow. I liked the Packers' FA approach back in the day - all low-dollar, short-term value signings with upside, and big splashes only when obvious exceptions emerge - Reggie White, Charles Woodson, prime examples, but doesn't need to be a walking HOFer, just really good/great players who are also high-character individuals (a la Wilkins last year, notwithstanding his bad luck so far).
Draft and develop; sign 1-2 yr FA deals and develop... Commit big only when you are reasonably informed and confident about the character you are committing to - Maxx being the superlative example.
Dude sounds very knowledgeable. Nine years in the league with Pats, Dophins, Steelers - homie has a ton of experience and looked best in his most recent years. Excited to see him finish out his career with a bang, this year, and hopefully more with the Raiders. Like the other three defensive signings for similar reasons. These dudes seem like underrated vets that Spytek and Pete swooped during the early phase - in calculated, targeted value shopping.
I'm a fan of saving big contracts mainly for in-house re-signings, after the player has been in the organization long enough to truly know the person; with the exception being if a known high-character, young legit talent hits the market somehow. I liked the Packers' FA approach back in the day - all low-dollar, short-term value signings with upside, and big splashes only when obvious exceptions emerge - Reggie White, Charles Woodson, prime examples, but doesn't need to be a walking HOFer, just really good/great players who are also high-character individuals (a la Wilkins last year, notwithstanding his bad luck so far).
Draft and develop; sign 1-2 yr FA deals and develop... Commit big only when you are reasonably informed and confident about the character you are committing to - Maxx being the superlative example.
joey
Footballguy
My comp pick math says we get back a 15th rounder in 2035Epps signed with the Patriots. 1 year up to $4.4M deal. Update your comp pick calculations as required.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Only if the expansion teams have less than 3 wins and Brady plays and wins a Super Bowl.My comp pick math says we get back a 15th rounder in 2035Epps signed with the Patriots. 1 year up to $4.4M deal. Update your comp pick calculations as required.
LawFitz
Footballguy
A bunch of the guys left unsigned are so because they are expecting a bit more than the market is willing to bear. Need time to get sides closer for next waves of deals. Several good CB options left out there. I am kinda stoked on Stokes, tho, gotta say... Former GBP first rounder.
Some decent WRs left too...
And this guy. Now THIS is a signing I'd be well willing to give up any of the three Raiders compensatory draft picks for. #BuildTheLines
Some decent WRs left too...
And this guy. Now THIS is a signing I'd be well willing to give up any of the three Raiders compensatory draft picks for. #BuildTheLines
LawFitz
Footballguy
Tankathon Raiders mock is silly good right now... https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft
1.6 Ashton Jeanty RB | Boise State 5'8.5" 211 lbs
2.5 Jaxson Dart QB | Ole Miss 6'2.5" 223 lbs
3.4 Jaydon Higgins WR | Iowa State 6'4" 214 lbs
1.6 Ashton Jeanty RB | Boise State 5'8.5" 211 lbs
2.5 Jaxson Dart QB | Ole Miss 6'2.5" 223 lbs
3.4 Jaydon Higgins WR | Iowa State 6'4" 214 lbs
Tau837
Footballguy
I'd rather have Douglas. Mike Hilton, too, if you need a slot corner. Not sure if there are others, but, as a Chargers fan, I was happy the team let ASJ walk.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Not a fan of Dart or any QB this draft. Would rather go OL in the first or second round and get RB in the second or third round. You win in the trenches.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Feel your last sentence, but am intruiged by Dart, and even more so Howard. They are my 2025 QB sleepers, with Shough getting a darkhorse nod. Rest of them can kick rocks, including Milrose.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
With Geno in place we can take a swing at a QB later is someone we like is there but with this crop of QBs I don't see a reason to take that swing any earlier than the 4th
LawFitz
Footballguy
Will Howard - my 3rd rd schleeper
LawFitz
Footballguy
Regardless of where they are taken, and even if Jeanty at 1.6,
I'd really like to see the Raiders draft two running backs that could come in and play significant minutes in a 2-3 man rotation next season and beyond. Gibbs model > Saquan model for Jeanty. Need to find a David Montgomery.
I'd really like to see the Raiders draft two running backs that could come in and play significant minutes in a 2-3 man rotation next season and beyond. Gibbs model > Saquan model for Jeanty. Need to find a David Montgomery.
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