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*** 2025 Men's College World Series *** (3 Viewers)
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Yet it still is subjective…..we all know that.
So I am going to sound like an old school guy here…..because yeah I was raised a certain way, played ball a certain way, and yeah respected the game, my coaches, my teammates, the umpires and most importantly my opponents a certain way. And I taught my son all this as well from day one. And coached my teams a certain way as well.
I am just about at my wits end with some of these SEC teams and one particular ACC team show boating and showing up their opponents literally every single moment like it was game 7 and they just won.
I watched Georgias despicable display of bat flipping and stare-downs at the Oklahoma States dugout during their elimination game Sunday…..and of course karma blew up in their face as they lost anyway.
Did Ok State retaliate? Did they show the same ridiculous displays of bat flipping, chest pumping, gyrating on the bases? Nope. They just beat those ****ers in the end. With class and acting like professionals.
Tennessee yesterday…..4th inning vs Wake…..the HR displays were ridiculous. The pitchers pumping their chests and showing up the hitters and trash talking running to the dugouts…..absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.
I believe in real raw emotion….in extremely big moments. Game winning hits, game winning strikeouts.
Not in the 4th inning with a ton of baseball left to play.
The coaches have enabled this, the umpires have lost control of this…..and this crap does not fly at most schools in this country.
It’s out of control.
Said my piece and I hope the following teams go suck it this year and some have already.
Tennessee- the worst offender along with
Georgia - out of the tournament and filled with boneheaded mentality players who are the epitome of selfishness and doosh behavior.
Florida - out of the tournament and Sullivan is a POS as well. I don’t know if you all saw his dress down of Coastal Carolina Associate AD’s but that guy is a pure narcissistic sociopathic lunatic and he was exposed on video of what he really is.
LSU
FSU
Those to me have been the absolute worst offenders.
Look I have been around this game my entire life…..my son is currently a starting collegiate ball player going into his junior year. He lives and breaths this game year round.
There is a time and a place to celebrate, and whoop it up….no question. But what I am seeing these days and literally it’s never been worse than this latest tournament…..it’s embarrassing.
So many great players in this country who do not do this. So many.
It’s simply out of control mainly in the SEC. It’s a certain culture that is harbored by these coaches. And there is no place for it.
Then the other extreme is Umpires tossing kids for literally nothing. That’s another discussion. But the balance has been lost in P4 college baseball and in particular the SEC.
I am just about at my wits end with some of these SEC teams and one particular ACC team show boating and showing up their opponents literally every single moment like it was game 7 and they just won.
I watched Georgias despicable display of bat flipping and stare-downs at the Oklahoma States dugout during their elimination game Sunday…..and of course karma blew up in their face as they lost anyway.
Did Ok State retaliate? Did they show the same ridiculous displays of bat flipping, chest pumping, gyrating on the bases? Nope. They just beat those ****ers in the end. With class and acting like professionals.
Tennessee yesterday…..4th inning vs Wake…..the HR displays were ridiculous. The pitchers pumping their chests and showing up the hitters and trash talking running to the dugouts…..absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.
I believe in real raw emotion….in extremely big moments. Game winning hits, game winning strikeouts.
Not in the 4th inning with a ton of baseball left to play.
The coaches have enabled this, the umpires have lost control of this…..and this crap does not fly at most schools in this country.
It’s out of control.
Said my piece and I hope the following teams go suck it this year and some have already.
Tennessee- the worst offender along with
Georgia - out of the tournament and filled with boneheaded mentality players who are the epitome of selfishness and doosh behavior.
Florida - out of the tournament and Sullivan is a POS as well. I don’t know if you all saw his dress down of Coastal Carolina Associate AD’s but that guy is a pure narcissistic sociopathic lunatic and he was exposed on video of what he really is.
LSU
FSU
Those to me have been the absolute worst offenders.
Look I have been around this game my entire life…..my son is currently a starting collegiate ball player going into his junior year. He lives and breaths this game year round.
There is a time and a place to celebrate, and whoop it up….no question. But what I am seeing these days and literally it’s never been worse than this latest tournament…..it’s embarrassing.
So many great players in this country who do not do this. So many.
It’s simply out of control mainly in the SEC. It’s a certain culture that is harbored by these coaches. And there is no place for it.
Then the other extreme is Umpires tossing kids for literally nothing. That’s another discussion. But the balance has been lost in P4 college baseball and in particular the SEC.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
May have to sprinkle some on Coastal since I'll be in Myrtle for part of the CWS anyways.
Nemesis
Footballguy
Ok NCAA & ESPN is pissing me off.
All of these
️ games are running long…..but they schedule ALL of the SR games on ESPN2.
This means they have to continually try to re-direct viewers to other networks & the viewer can’t reasonably record a game.
Note: The FSU@OSU game was scheduled to start at 6:00pm EST, but here it is 7:30pm and the UM@MIA still hasn’t finished. ESPN tells you to view it on ESPNEWS…..but it’s not showing there.
All of these
️ games are running long…..but they schedule ALL of the SR games on ESPN2.This means they have to continually try to re-direct viewers to other networks & the viewer can’t reasonably record a game.
Note: The FSU@OSU game was scheduled to start at 6:00pm EST, but here it is 7:30pm and the UM@MIA still hasn’t finished. ESPN tells you to view it on ESPNEWS…..but it’s not showing there.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Beavers with a sweet comeback. Again.
Capella
Footballguy
FSU baseball. Just incredible year after year. 3 run lead in the 9th with 2 outs and still lost.
zamboni
Footballguy
Nice, beavers.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
Looking forward to tonights game. Should be a good one.
New Binky the Doormat
Footballguy
TEN ... smell ya later Dixie!
General Malaise
Footballguy
Never been to a baseball game in Corvallis, but it sure looks like a great time. The stadium sits right on campus, right near the train tracks so you get great visuals, audibles, all the vibes. When the weather is nice, that's got to be an outstanding evening of fun.
Go Beavs!
Go Beavs!
WDIK2
Footballguy
Bracket 1:
Coastal Carolina (Sun Belt) vs.
Arizona (Big 12)
Oregon State (Ind.) vs.
Louisville (ACC)
Bracket 2:
UCLA (Big 10) vs.
Murray State (MVC)
Arkansas (SEC) vs.
LSU (SEC)
Hard to not root for the Racers or Chanticleers. OSU currently being independent would be a good story also.
Coastal Carolina (Sun Belt) vs.
Arizona (Big 12)
Oregon State (Ind.) vs.
Louisville (ACC)
Bracket 2:
UCLA (Big 10) vs.
Murray State (MVC)
Arkansas (SEC) vs.
LSU (SEC)
Hard to not root for the Racers or Chanticleers. OSU currently being independent would be a good story also.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I'm cheering on the Beavers since they got such a raw deal with the Pac-12 crumbling. Plus, check out their wall of beer cans from the last game! How can you not like these guys? ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US!!!!
Manster
Footballguy
Goss is a great atmosphere to watch some high level baseball for sure.
Some combo of my fam was at every regional, and super regional game.....that first game of the super, vs FSU was INSANE!! What a comeback! I honestly did not expect OSU to get to Omaha this year.......but here we are! The college baseball postseason is so much fun!
I love that there are 6 conferences repped, including 1 independent (OSU), in Omaha.
My dad is flying out Thursday. I am getting a flight for the finals....hopefully we make it that far.....Go Beavs!!
I was there for the epic 2007 matchup between the Beavers and the Eaters (UC Irvine). The shirts being sold that year were awesome for the semi-final matchup between the two. Dang I really need to get back but I am sure it is a much different atmosphere being away from Rosenblatt. I was lucky enough to go three times (2001, 2007, and 2009) but haven't been to the new stadium.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
pretty close. take out the baseball and just put the vs between the mascots. There were Eater shirts everywhere but when this matchup happened the shirt guys got on it fast.
Manster
Footballguy
Beavers ended up eatin the eaters....
Beavs and Eaters have a pretty lively rivalry. I was at the regional in '14 when we were the #1 overall seed, and the eaters came and ate!
3 game series this season and the eaters beat us 12-0 friday.....worse defeat I can remember at Goss. Beavs won the next two to take the series.
Orloff (UCI coach) was a great player for them and now coach. He and Canham (OSU coach) played against each other back in '07 in Omaha. Good stuff!
Beavs and Eaters have a pretty lively rivalry. I was at the regional in '14 when we were the #1 overall seed, and the eaters came and ate!
3 game series this season and the eaters beat us 12-0 friday.....worse defeat I can remember at Goss. Beavs won the next two to take the series.
Orloff (UCI coach) was a great player for them and now coach. He and Canham (OSU coach) played against each other back in '07 in Omaha. Good stuff!
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WDIK2
Footballguy
It's definitely a lot more corporate than it used to be at the Blat. Hasn't almost every sport gone this way? Still some great tailgating and atmosphere outside around the stadium though. I should make it to at least 2 games this year.
The best part of the Blat was parking in someone yard a block or two from the stadium for $10 a game. Going back in between games for a sandwich and some beers and then hit up the 2nd game. We parked at the same spot every year we went and it was awesome. Some shade from the trees and got to know a local over the years because we parked in her backyard. She even put out a bucket with some water for a pisser so we didn't have to bother her to use the house. Great times.
Nemesis
Footballguy
FSU: Another Charlie Brown heartache ending of a season (Lucy pulling the 
away at the last moment)My group of friends + wives travelled to Durham, NC to see the ACC tournament
And some of them travelled to Tallahassee to attend the S. Regional
We had all the plans in place to go to Omaha this year ..........but OSU had other plans
FSU definitely choked it away - and OSU took advantage of it like they should
Nemesis
Footballguy
Question to the entire group.................we all have seen:
NCAA CFP expand from 2 teams --> to BCS 4 teams --> to 12 teams
NCAA
: expanded from 64 to 68 teams
but the CWS has remained at 8 teams
Anyone surprised that there hasn't been any talks about expanding the # of Omaha teams >8 ?
NCAA
CFP expand from 2 teams --> to BCS 4 teams --> to 12 teamsNCAA
: expanded from 64 to 68 teamsbut the CWS
has remained at 8 teamsAnyone surprised that there hasn't been any talks about expanding the # of Omaha teams >8 ?
In reality it's 64 teams in the tournament. They just whittle down elsewhere before they get to the elite 8 in Omaha. I don't see that format changing.
Nemesis
Footballguy
Yep, I understand there is already 64 teams.
But i just figured someone would try to get more teams under the Omaha spotlight (more $$$, etc)
General Malaise
Footballguy
Question to the entire group.................we all have seen:
NCAA
NCAA
but the CWS
Anyone surprised that there hasn't been any talks about expanding the # of Omaha teams >8 ?
I would imagine the sport would need to see evidence of revenue and ratings demanding more teams and more games but in its current form, I don't see it as anything more than a niche sport. It's a good one - I think it's every bit as entertaining as college basketball is now (with bigger potential stars since the NBA tends to rob college basketball of some top tier talent) - but I don't think it's getting the ad dollars and eye balls the other sports get.
Also, doesn't the post season for college baseball begin with 64 teams as is? I do like the opening rounds being played on campus. That Oregon State series with your "Noles looked incredible on TV. Great visuals.
I think that is limited by the number of games you can have a day and how you need more days in between games otherwise you burn too much pitching and then games get ugly.
I think 8 teams is right but I wish they went back to the true double elimination format.
Nemesis
Footballguy
that's certainly a good point about the amount of pitching teams would need for the men's teams.
Meanwhile, I think the WCWS
is being "Hurt" by the fact that you can ride ONLY 1 pitcher for an entire tournament without ever having to change pitchers (Yes, I'm looking at you Texas Tech $$$)But Softball has always been like that. That is not a new concept and it really is the great equalizer for softball. I think that is not a bad thing. Worse is too many HR's and too close of bases. I would like them to move the fences back 25-30' and the bases by 5-10'.Meanwhile, I think the WCWS
More impressive was 19 K's and was able to pitch 9 innings (119 pitches)
zamboni
Footballguy
And just missed perfection by hitting a batter in the 8th. No walks.
Capella
Footballguy
FSU baseball will never win a national title. Too much pressure on the players now.
My group of friends + wives travelled to Durham, NC to see the ACC tournament
And some of them travelled to Tallahassee to attend the S. Regional
We had all the plans in place to go to Omaha this year ..........but OSU had other plans
FSU definitely choked it away - and OSU took advantage of it like they should
Honestly if a college basketball team made 24 final fours without winning one it’s all anybody would talk about.
Nemesis
Footballguy
I think yourWorse is softballWCWS
point has some merit to it. Their game has evolved over time & could be due for more adjustments. If you’ve ever played in a Men’s softball league with 60’ bases & then played it at 70’ bases you know there is a difference to the pitching & fielding.
but with today’s $$ invested, I’m not so sure anyone would have the guts to propose a change.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fully agree that the bases and fences should be moved back for college - the women have obviously gotten stronger, faster and more athletic over the years. For infield plays, the fielders have to field it perfectly and get the ball out lightning fast to have any chance of getting the out. But it will certainly take a sea change by the authorities to make such a sizable move of the fences and bases.I think yourWorse is softballWCWS
If you’ve ever played in a Men’s softball league with 60’ bases & then played it at 70’ bases you know there is a difference to the pitching & fielding.
but with today’s $$ invested, I’m not so sure anyone would have the guts to propose a change.
As for pitching, the fact you can ride one pitcher is just part of the sport. Throwing the ball underhand is a lot less taxing on the shoulder compared to overhand pitching in baseball.
I agree it would be tough to get a change but softball is not averse to doing this. When pitching became way to dominate they moved the rubber from 40' to 43'. That happened in 1988 to try and increase offense. I would say it worked.Fully agree that the bases and fences should be moved back for college - the women have obviously gotten stronger, faster and more athletic over the years. For infield plays, the fielders have to field it perfectly and get the ball out lightning fast to have any chance of getting the out. But it will certainly take a sea change by the authorities to make such a sizable move of the fences and bases.I think yourWorse is softballWCWS
If you’ve ever played in a Men’s softball league with 60’ bases & then played it at 70’ bases you know there is a difference to the pitching & fielding.
but with today’s $$ invested, I’m not so sure anyone would have the guts to propose a change.
As for pitching, the fact you can ride one pitcher is just part of the sport. Throwing the ball underhand is a lot less taxing on the shoulder compared to overhand pitching in baseball.
It would be more the equivalent of the Elite 8. Omaha is not the final four. It is the Elite 8.
Capella
Footballguy
Right but a cws trip is the culmination of the season. Programs hang banners for that. Nobody really measures who makes the final four. I think my point is still valid. Hell if a team made 24 elite eights without a title it’s all people would talk about come that time of year.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Oregon State picked a hell of a time to forget how to play defense and bring the wrong bats. They played lousy defense and were something like 2-45 with RISP in their 3 games. Was really rooting for them as that school could use a big win after all they've been through but was not to be.
Rooting on Coastal Carolina to win it all. Pretty cool to see schools like this competing with the Blue Bloods.
Rooting on Coastal Carolina to win it all. Pretty cool to see schools like this competing with the Blue Bloods.
Because they typically schedule two games a day and since they are on the same field there is one day game and one night game. The only go to prime time when they go to the final best 2 of 3 series and usually take a few days to let pitching staffs align to start the game.
nirad3
Footballguy
What a game. With a couple of days off Coastal and Tigers can align their aces. First game should be f'in awesome. I rarely watch college baseball until Omaha. It's really an underrated sports spectacle. When my Gauchos (UC Santa Barbara) went a bunch of years ago, I had to hold myself back from buying a plane ticket out for the weekend. You know that sports bar in Omaha that tallies all of the Jello shots that every college's fans order during the CWS? Yeah, we lapped everyone by a country mile.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
What a disaster of a last inning for Arkansas. Wow. So many opportunities to finish the game. Just a bunch of bonehead moves and bad breaks by the defense.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
You know that sports bar in Omaha that tallies all of the Jello shots that every college's fans order during the CWS? Yeah, we lapped everyone by a country mile.
Jello Shot Tally
LSU was 3x the next highest, Arkansas. That's nuts.
WDIK2
Footballguy
Going to be a scorcher (heat) in Omaha this weekend. My company has 12 tickets and hasn't had a problem getting rid of any of them this year. I would be surprised if a few don't go unused this weekend.
Honestly wouldn't hurt for a pop-up thunderstorm to roll through and cool things down a bit.
Honestly wouldn't hurt for a pop-up thunderstorm to roll through and cool things down a bit.
gump
Footballguy
It Just Means More.You know that sports bar in Omaha that tallies all of the Jello shots that every college's fans order during the CWS? Yeah, we lapped everyone by a country mile.
Jello Shot Tally
LSU was 3x the next highest, Arkansas. That's nuts.
