WaltonGoggins
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Definitely don’t regret it hope others did the same.
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2025 Miami Dolphins - 1-6, Currently hold the #2 pick in the draft. (47 Viewers)
- Thread starter SwampDawg
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
My eight-year-old has gotten into football this year and has been asking to go to a Dolphins game. Someone posted on Twitter that they were selling tickets to the Jets game on 12/17 for $60 below Ticketmaster price. I'm ready to buy, but is there a way to verify that I'm not being scammed? I have no reason to think it's not legit; his Twitter feed looks like that of a regular guy who's a Dolphins fan. Still, is there any way to protect myself?
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Update: I backchanneled the guy -- friend of mine who is a season-ticket holder reached out to Dolphin super-fan Ian Berger (aka "Fan of the Year") -- and Ian vouched for the seller. All set for the 17th. My son will be so excited!
TripleThreat
Footballguy
MetLife takeover video teaser ... spotted myself. Such a good time
Desert_Power
Footballguy
3 games up on the Bills with an extra to play.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Appreciate the math correction
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They have a Bye Week, then Chiefs and CowboysAppreciate the math correction
They are legit looking at 7-7 at best when Miami could be finishing off a little run and closing in on 11-3
Bye
at KC Chiefs
Dallas
at Chargers
Patriots
at Dolphins
Buffalo could miss the Playoffs
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Doesn't look like Herbert is going to make the Playoffs, Josh Allen is on the outside looking in right now, Burrow is down for the season, DeShaun Watson same
Lamar Jackson does not have the best Playoff record, Lawrence has a couple games under his belt but nobody seems to fear the Jags
-Shaping up to be a great year for Miami to make a deep run.
The Wildcard teams right now include Pittsburgh and Cleveland at 7-4, both teams are wasting everyone's time and then Indy is the 3rd wildcard team?
Miami would open at home with Pittsburgh if the playoffs started today
Lamar Jackson does not have the best Playoff record, Lawrence has a couple games under his belt but nobody seems to fear the Jags
-Shaping up to be a great year for Miami to make a deep run.
The Wildcard teams right now include Pittsburgh and Cleveland at 7-4, both teams are wasting everyone's time and then Indy is the 3rd wildcard team?
Miami would open at home with Pittsburgh if the playoffs started today
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Tua: 29-16 / 11,192 yards (248.7 per game) / 66.7 completion percentage / 74 TD (1.6 per game) / 33 INT (.73 per game)
Tua (w/Coach McDaniel) 16-8 / 6,725 yards (280 per game) / 67.1 completion percentage / 47 TD (1.95 per game) / 18 INT (.75 per game)
Herbert 29-30 / 16,698 yards (283 per game) / 66.8 completion percentage / 113 TD (1.9 per game) / 40 INT (.67 per game)
So when you take his time under coach lawsuit and the multi headed OC's away their numbers are pretty damn close except in the all important win column which Tua leads. Until he goes a couple years injury free yes that is still going to be a concern but all those that said Herbert was light years better it doesn't seem to be working out that way. They are different and do it different ways but the stats are close.
Tua (w/Coach McDaniel) 16-8 / 6,725 yards (280 per game) / 67.1 completion percentage / 47 TD (1.95 per game) / 18 INT (.75 per game)
Herbert 29-30 / 16,698 yards (283 per game) / 66.8 completion percentage / 113 TD (1.9 per game) / 40 INT (.67 per game)
So when you take his time under coach lawsuit and the multi headed OC's away their numbers are pretty damn close except in the all important win column which Tua leads. Until he goes a couple years injury free yes that is still going to be a concern but all those that said Herbert was light years better it doesn't seem to be working out that way. They are different and do it different ways but the stats are close.
Steelers would scare me a bit. Offense looked competent sans Canada, and a healthy TJ Watt makes their defense excellent.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
They showed a stat on Friday about Tua before and after McDaniel and the numbers are strangely the same in a lot of categories. I think the thing that has helped this team the most (based on that) is the running game concepts McDaniel has installed. That and having his QBs back.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
They scored 16 points, it was just a little prettier. I mean its the NFL so you can't assume a win over any team but playing Pittsburgh or Cleveland I would be very disappointed in a loss assuming everyone is healthy.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Assuming no other injuries to the dolphin Defense, you think the Browns or the Steelers can gain yards on Miami? Miami has not played up to par in recent weeks on offense but that is likely a function of the O line being decimated at the moment. Other than TJ Watt and some random O linemen who on either of those teams would be a starter for the Phins right now?
At least with San Fran, Philly, Dallas, The Bills, The Chiefs and the Ravens there are some positions that have more talent than Miami. Not more speed, but more talent. Teams with similar Defenses and worse offenses don't scare me
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Eagles beating the Bills last night was big for the Dolphins, obviously.
Dolphins currently a Top 2 or 3 team in the AFC along with the Ravens and Chiefs. Have been paying more attention to their D the last couple of weeks, seems pretty legit.
Dolphins currently a Top 2 or 3 team in the AFC along with the Ravens and Chiefs. Have been paying more attention to their D the last couple of weeks, seems pretty legit.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Friday Night
1. Miami 8-3
2. Ravens 8-3
3. Chiefs 7-3
4. Jaguars 7-3
Sunday after the 1:00 games
1. Jaguars 8-3
2. Miami 8-3
3. Ravens 8-3
4. Chiefs 7-3
Sunday at about 8pm after the late games ended
1. Chiefs 8-3
2. Jaguars 8-3
3. Miami 8-3
4. Ravens 8-3
Sunday Night after the SNF concludes
1. Ravens 9-3
2. Chiefs 8-3
3. Jaguars 8-3
4. Miami 8-3
Miami is the 4-seed at the moment
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jags are playing Cinci, Cleve and Balt the next 3 weeks and then close out with the Bucs, Panthers and Titans
Jags could easily go 12-5/13-4
Ravens play Rams, Niners, Phins, Steelers and those Jags...i think they could go 2-3 rather easily down the stretch
I stil see them as an 11-6 type team.
Chiefs play Packers, Bills at home, Patriots, Raiders, Bengals, Chargers,
Chiefs could easily win out and go 14-3, 13-4 at worse, lot of soft serve on that remaining 6 games.
I don't see Miami finishing above a 3 or 4 seed and that means if they win their opening game, likely on the road in Divisional Round, likely to see the Chiefs on the road.
Jags could easily go 12-5/13-4
Ravens play Rams, Niners, Phins, Steelers and those Jags...i think they could go 2-3 rather easily down the stretch
I stil see them as an 11-6 type team.
Chiefs play Packers, Bills at home, Patriots, Raiders, Bengals, Chargers,
Chiefs could easily win out and go 14-3, 13-4 at worse, lot of soft serve on that remaining 6 games.
I don't see Miami finishing above a 3 or 4 seed and that means if they win their opening game, likely on the road in Divisional Round, likely to see the Chiefs on the road.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Getting the one seed requires a bit of luck at this point and the Chiefs have the inside track for that for sure (winning in Germany would have given us a better shot for sure). Miami likely finishes as he 3 seed, maybe 2 if they beat Baltimore.
Ironman2131
Footballguy
After years of misery, I just want Miami to win the division and then win a playoff game. I'll worry about matchups and going on the road in the playoffs at that point.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Couldn’t agree more - haven’t won a playoff game in 20+ years.
Lets hopefully beat the Commanders and go from there.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I'm going to be greedy here. I'd like to see Miami make it to the AFCC game. I'd also like it to be a home game. The Super Bowl being in Vegas means no matter what we will be outnumbered against pretty much any other fan base other than Philly. Dolphin fans deserve an AFCC game at home after all these years of eating crap.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
I think if Miami can win their next three they will clinch with three games left provided Buffalo loses to either KC or Dallas.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think the final game won't matter a lot in deciding the Division at this point but things could change.
I do think it could be a very big game for Buffalo to make it in as a wildcard.
I have Buffalo at 7-7 after their next 2 games, Miami has a chance to make either be 10-4/11-3 at that point.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
@swampdog - just a suggestion - can we change the thread title to “8 - 3 after answering the Jets Fail Mary” ?
As a Dolphin fan living in NY I’ve had the pleasure of listening to NY sports radio (WFAN) for a long time. From pre-season takes of “OMG we got Aaron Rodgers - we going to the Super Bowl !” to now “Fire everyone - tear it down” The past few days have been glorious.
Most think “Fail Mary“ will become a more painful and embarassing moniker than the “Butt Fumble”.
Again just a suggestion.
”Oh the pain” - WFAN Joe Beningo
FINS UP
As a Dolphin fan living in NY I’ve had the pleasure of listening to NY sports radio (WFAN) for a long time. From pre-season takes of “OMG we got Aaron Rodgers - we going to the Super Bowl !” to now “Fire everyone - tear it down” The past few days have been glorious.
Most think “Fail Mary“ will become a more painful and embarassing moniker than the “Butt Fumble”.
Again just a suggestion.
”Oh the pain” - WFAN Joe Beningo
FINS UP
Todem
Footballguy
I can stick Herbert in any offense......and because of his physical dominance over Tua...he will put up numbers regardless of scheme.
Take Tua and ask him to be a drop back QB and not in this “perfect” scheme for his skill set.....and you get Years 1 and 2.
Look......we can post stats and go through all kinds of semantics with that......but if you ask me again today who I draft...it’s Herbert all day and every day.
He is a tremendous talent who can make plays off script....with his arm and legs.
Tua on the other hand is a highly accurate passer, a fast processor but solely relies on this scheme and high end talent to make up for his physical shortcomings.
He is a great kid....great character, and has proven if in the right system...he can be successful.
Herbert on the other hand is on a team that can’t stop anybody and has a seriously bad coaching staff right now. He also has proven he can play hurt. Last year he played with busted ribs......did not miss any time. This season he is playing with a broken finger on his non throwing hand.
Wins are team stats. We all know that.
So again......I like Tua on our offense that McD has built with Grier.......and again I draft Herbert over Tua every single solitary time.
Can Tua take us deep into the post season? Well......if teams keep forcing him to his third and fourth read we are in big trouble. It has become apparent to me that if the first read is not there.....and the ball is not out in less than 2.5 seconds things simply go awry in this offense. Also Tua has really no ability to buy time with his feet...and has no real ability to make off script plays like:
Mahomes
Allen
Herbert
Hurts
Jackson
Stroud
Tua is not in those guys league IMO in terms of being a QB who can be good anywhere with anyone and also physically speaking all those guys have far better arms and mobility.
So while the numbers look great.....and the wins are also great....if we are going to compare them as simply QB’s and building a team.....I take all those guys I listed ahead of Tua. Tua is not a plug and play QB in the least bit.
That’s not to say Tua is not a good NFL QB......he is and he has now proven that between last years start and this years season in this specific scheme. He also has a propensity to get hurt and not be able to play thru injuries. And this has been the case in college and in the pros. I really hope he stays healthy and is able to take us all the way. I have been a Fins fan my entire life....would love nothing more.
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Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
I'd give the Dolphins the edge over the Jaguars. Better Net Points (+88 to +29), 85 more points scored, offense is more of a threat. I'd be more nervous facing the Dolphins (just IMO of course).
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Looks like Miami is signing Jason Pierre-Paul, he was cooked his last year with the Bucs, it was painful at times
Guess we will see if he has anything left
www.nbcsports.com
Guess we will see if he has anything left
Report: Dolphins are expected to sign Jason Pierre-Paul off Saints' practice squad
The Dolphins are expected to sign pass rusher Jason Pierre-Paul off the Saints' practice squad, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports.
www.nbcsports.com
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Miami can’t beat winning teams only the bad ones. I’ll be betting heavily against them. Don’t count out Denver and Texans.
+1. Perfect assessment of Tua's value. I would absolutely trade Tua for Herbert in a heartbeat.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Herbert definitely has some advantages over Tua, but he has some disadvantages too. Herbert has not really proven much in the NFL either. I'm not convinced either is going to go down as a great QB.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Tua is the best QB the Dolphins have had since Marino.
Like him or not, he’s going to get paid and be here for a long time. I just hope he can stay healthy.
Like him or not, he’s going to get paid and be here for a long time. I just hope he can stay healthy.
Ironman2131
Footballguy
I like both Tua and Herbert, but they have very different skill sets. Yes, Herbert is more physically gifted (especially running the ball) and looks more like a QB. Tua processes coverages and routes faster and is more accurate. Give both QBs a clean pocket and I'll take Tua, but if things are breaking down and the QB needs to be on the move, I think Herbert offers more. Tua also tends to be a bit of a gunslinger and tries to fit the ball into impossible windows, although it's not like Herbert is awesome at taking care of the ball either.
Anyway, I think both QBs are going to have long careers and look better at various times depending on scheme and the surrounding talent and protection. I would go with Burrow and Hurts over either of them in a second, but if Tua is able to lead the Fins to playoff success then I don't really care what the other QBs are doing.
Anyway, I think both QBs are going to have long careers and look better at various times depending on scheme and the surrounding talent and protection. I would go with Burrow and Hurts over either of them in a second, but if Tua is able to lead the Fins to playoff success then I don't really care what the other QBs are doing.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Man, if you can watch Hard Knocks and get through it with a dry eye after watching that Phillips portion. Just brutal.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Yeah that was tough to watch.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jaelan Phillips' mother wept on the shoulder of Dan Marino after the game.
-The hole Phillips leaves behind will not be filled. The next 3 games I feel the Phins can mange victories without him.
The hole will appear much larger when Miami takes on Playoff level teams and better offenses.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
He was playing at a pro bowl level for sure, but Ogbah and Van Gingkle have been good as well so I do not expect the pass rush to suffer too much. His run game edge setting is another matter entirely.
As for the Herbert Tua debate year forever... I think the Shanahan McDaniel style offense needs a different kind of QB than most. Accuracy matters. Look at what is happening in Orchard Park. Not saying that Josh Allen or Herbert (my closest comp to Herbert is Allen) couldn't thrive here, but I'd prefer to appreciate what we have (and accuracy QB in an accuracy based system) vs wish for what we don't . If we would have drafted Herbert over Tua we'd likely still suck but Flores would still be the coach and the team would be half as exciting as it is now.
I'll nit pick and say the bigger fail was drafting Skylar Thompson over Brock Purdy at the end of the draft in 2022
Hindsight is 20/20.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
FTR, I have not said a word about all this Tua evaluation ouring in this week on both sides.
We would have never heard about Purdy if he was taken by Miami IMHO, even if he was OK in Tua' s absence there was/is no path for a QB to take Tua's spot right now barring injury
Just my opinion and that still doesn't say how I feel reading over Todem and Swamp, both of them seem like valid points.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Question about parking at Hard Rock. I just got a call from the Dolphins ticket office alerting me that I did not have parking passes with the ticket (I appreciated them being so proactive!) The on-stadium lots are all sold out, and the only ones available are a mile away with no shuttle, which is not ideal for an 8-year-old.
ETA: Just realized that the Uber drop-off location is the aforementioned lot that's a mile away from the stadium. So that doesn't really help me. Back to square one
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Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Maybe, maybe not. If you assume that everything else that happened last year happened the same way: Tua being concussed, Teddy two gloves getting hurt, then Purdy plays against the Jets etc. If the Purdy who has been this accurate in SF was that accurate in Miami then things get interesting, especially if Purdy doesn't hurt his shoulder. Add to the fact that Miami with Purdy might have beaten the Bills in the playoff game and then where would the fan base be?
This is always an interesting game of "what if" but Purdy running this offense would look a lot like Tua running this offense. With Purdy On a rookie scale would Miami break the bank next year to sign Tua? or spend that money on C Watson? Likely this year Tua is the 1 and Purdy is the 2, and no Mike White in Miami.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
You may want to look into the Brightline or Tri rail as they have buses that may or may not be closer. You could also look for someone selling a parking pass.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Yeah, Brightline does offer a free shuttle from the Aventura station; unfortunately, that's also the station I live closest to, so not sure where I'd buy my ticket from.
Finding someone who's selling a pass could be a good idea
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Did you try STub Hub?
When they built the F1 race track they really screwed up the parking lots
-FYI, a mile is nothing, been to so many around the country, try AT&T in Dallas, and I understand having an 8 year old. Wear good shoes to walk in, even inside the stadium you likely ill have to walk a bit. Wear comfy clothes.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Zac Ertz, please get to the airport and find the first flight to M-I-A
-He would solve some TE issues, not much.of a blocker but would get open in the middle of the field where Tua likes to throw
-He would solve some TE issues, not much.of a blocker but would get open in the middle of the field where Tua likes to throw
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
What the coaches (Butch Barry) have done with this Oline is nothing short of amazing. Austin Jackson costs them more $$$ with each passing week.
Tyreek gets 2k and it will be hard not to give him the MVP. Just a beast week in and week out.
The Gink is a treat to watch.
Tua still standing.
9-3 with the Titans coming to town on Monday night prime time.
FINS UP !!!!
Tyreek gets 2k and it will be hard not to give him the MVP. Just a beast week in and week out.
The Gink is a treat to watch.
Tua still standing.
9-3 with the Titans coming to town on Monday night prime time.
FINS UP !!!!
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
They haven’t beat any good teams.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chiefs lost, Miami is No 1 overall in the AFC Playoffs this morning
1. Miami 9-3
2. Baltimore 9-3, on a Bye week
3. Jacksonville 8-3, play tonight and could vault to No 1 with a win
4. Kansas City 8-4
-Colts, Texans, Steelers and Browns all 7-5
rockaction
Footballguy
Just coming into this thread to post that you guys are in first place in the AFC.
That's a bye. That's huge.
But Titans, Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, and Bills is an extremely tough way to end the year. You should beat the Titans and Jets. The other games are really tight
That's a bye. That's huge.
But Titans, Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, and Bills is an extremely tough way to end the year. You should beat the Titans and Jets. The other games are really tight
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
4 out of the last 5 games they have left are at home in Miami.
Last 3 games will be tough but you gotta love the position they’ve put themselves in here for the stretch run.
Last 3 games will be tough but you gotta love the position they’ve put themselves in here for the stretch run.
Per NYT calculator, 99% and 98% chance to make the playoffs and win the division. 28% bye week, and 13% chance to make it to the SB. That's too high based on how Miami and Tua have played vs good teams. Take away the vertical routes from Cheetah and Miami's offense struggles. They are making an effort to run the ball and throw to the TE (UDFA Julian Hill) and other WRs (Cracraft). Given their cap situation and lack of draft picks the last 2 years, the window is now.
I think the Jags get the bye based on talent and remaining schedule.
Down Under
Footballguy
Dolphins looked great on both sides of the ball again yesterday.
