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2025 Miami Dolphins - The Trade Table is Open (5 Viewers)
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
He spoke at my middle school back in the day. I don't remember a lot about him other than he came across as more authentic than the average drug warrior, and I mean that positively. RIP.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I don't think it is overreacting to say that both Grier and Mcdaniel should be on the hot seat. They're not but should be.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'd like to see McDaniel do more coaching than just staring at his play sheet.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Well, I might do the same if I were him, the product on the field isn't worth looking at.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Did you see him roll his eyes?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Yep.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Dolphins' Mike McDaniel on fraud watch after Titans disaster
Fans aren't happy with McDaniel after the Dolphins loss to the Titans
clutchpoints.com
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
So, questions…I'd say that Miami should just run RPOs with this guy. If McDaniel can't put together a scheme that uses his legs as a threat beside the speed of Waddle, Achane, and Hill then we really need to be asking serious questions about him.658 yds - 2 TD passesMaybe it’s time to see what Huntley can do.
Over 5 games, 4 of them he started
You that intrigued by this guy?
I understand why you want someone else besides Thompson, I honestly do
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Nothing has changed from when this was posted
Listening to people wanting Miami to make a trade for a QB mid ship, not happening
-Armstead OUT, Paul not ready at Left Tackle, the OL is terrible and seems undersized, always getting pushed around
-Tua has some procedure or "knee surgery" we're learning and it might have been a lot more involved than was reported
Also with Tua, his next concussion is going to be a career ender
Why would they rush him back? It's time to shut him down for the season and perhaps start thinking about trading some pieces and reset
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Huntley starting next week.
I might be starting him at SF again with by BYE week issues.
I might be starting him at SF again with by BYE week issues.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Mike McDaniel is failing the Miami Dolphins and these 3 areas are proof
It's not easy to become a head coach in the NFL, and it is far less likely that anyone who does make it becomes successful. There are great coaches, and there a
3. Miami's pre-snap motion needs to stop until Tua Tagovailoa is back.
2. Mike McDaniel isn't strong at evaluating needs
1. The lack of discipline is the most glaring problem for the Dolphins
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I definitely agree with the pre-snap motion response. He needs to quit trying to force his team to fit his scheme and adjust his scheme to fit his current situation, mainly at QB.Mike McDaniel is failing the Miami Dolphins and these 3 areas are proof
It's not easy to become a head coach in the NFL, and it is far less likely that anyone who does make it becomes successful. There are great coaches, and there aphinphanatic.com
3. Miami's pre-snap motion needs to stop until Tua Tagovailoa is back.
2. Mike McDaniel isn't strong at evaluating needs
1. The lack of discipline is the most glaring problem for the Dolphins
Big Nate
Footballguy
McDaniel's getting too much flack. Does he need to do better - sure but so do the players out there. 5 pre-snap motion penalties. If the players execute then there are no issues. These are professional players who are ****ing up.
MIA has been crushed by injuries. That isn't the coaches fault.
I know everyone loves to crap on the coach, just want to complain but it isn't all on him. When the players are out there and executing there is no issue.
Easy to blame the coach. This is the same as my stance on Tua. McDaniel will get run out of town and we will be searching for a half decent coach for years.
You could put any coach on this team right now and it would still suck. You seen the QB play?
First thing the Fins will need to do once McDaniel is run out is find a coach as good as he is.
MIA has been crushed by injuries. That isn't the coaches fault.
I know everyone loves to crap on the coach, just want to complain but it isn't all on him. When the players are out there and executing there is no issue.
Easy to blame the coach. This is the same as my stance on Tua. McDaniel will get run out of town and we will be searching for a half decent coach for years.
You could put any coach on this team right now and it would still suck. You seen the QB play?
First thing the Fins will need to do once McDaniel is run out is find a coach as good as he is.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Ok I am as disappointed as anyone and in the burn it down, work and injury settlement with Tue, trade Hill, Phillips and whoever else for whatever you can get and start over at QB again camp. And I thought the game plan was awful Monday night given you had all week to know Huntely was starting, that is 100% on the head coach. That said I have some points and questions for @Ministry of Pain @Todem and the others wanting to run McDaniel out of town.
- Who made the final decision that Thompson was the answer at backup? Was it McDaniel or did that come from Grier as a cost saving move? I said this in the game thread but how you don't back Tua up with as close to a like QB as you can given his history is baffling. Mac Jones was out there as a free agent. The draft book on him was quick release, processes well, accurate, good anticipation. He came through the same college system as Tua. Would seem like a perfect guy to have behind Tua instead of the mobile, slow throwing motion, not overly accurate Thompson whom you need to change the entire offense for. If the decision was McDaniel's then he needs to answer did he think Thompson could run the same offense or what the plan was? If it was a cost move from Grier it was a stupid one.
- Let's say you guys get your dream and Tua retires. What is the plan going forward? This next draft doesn't look to my untrained eye to have a sure fire miss at QB even if we somehow end up with the top pick. Justin Fields is probably the top slated free agent for next year or Sam Darnold.
- What would you dream plan be going forward at coach? Belicheck isn't coming here especially give the QB issue. We tried for the Sean Payton and Brady, coach lawsuit made sure that didn't happen and while Ross has issues, I maintain he is far from the only owner to make that type of move. Want an experienced coach? Good chance Mike McCarthy could be available after this season, does that excite you? A different hot coordinator? Bobby Slowik? Who? And you are going to pair them with either a rookie QB from a so-so class of QB's or a retread.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bye Bye Jaelan Phillips
Season ending knee injury/surgery
www.nbcsports.com
Season ending knee injury/surgery
Jaelan Phillips will miss the rest of the season with a knee injury
Dolphins edge rusher Jaelan Phillips shared some bad news on his Instagram account Wednesday.
www.nbcsports.com
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Should be a rule that if you walk to the locker room without help you have to play the next week.Bye Bye Jaelan Phillips
Season ending knee injury/surgery
Jaelan Phillips will miss the rest of the season with a knee injury
Dolphins edge rusher Jaelan Phillips shared some bad news on his Instagram account Wednesday.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I guess rock bottom really does have a basement.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Should have traded him while he was healthy and kept AVG. Hopefully it is early enough in the season that he can come back early next year and maybe we can trade him. No way I sign him long term unless it is a super team friendly deal, too much injury history all the way back through college.Bye Bye Jaelan Phillips
Season ending knee injury/surgery
Jaelan Phillips will miss the rest of the season with a knee injury
Dolphins edge rusher Jaelan Phillips shared some bad news on his Instagram account Wednesday.
With this deal in the works, Ross must be really pissed that the Dolphins are tanking without Tua.
Also provides rationale for locking up the flashy assets at big bucks.
must be tremendous pressure on Tua to keep playing to keep the valuation from eroding.
If Tua opts out, Dolphins future becomes bleak with big money in assets not flashing anymore.
https://www.privateequitywire.co.uk/ares-closing-in-on-dolphins-deal-at-8-1bn-valuation/
Private equity firm Ares Management and billionaire Joe Tsai are in advanced discussion with Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross over the acquisition of stakes in the NFL team and related assets in deals that would value the business at $8.1bn, according to a report by Bloomberg.
The report cites unnamed sources familiar with the matter as revealing that the potential transaction would see Ares Management acquire a 10% stake in a package that includes the Dolphins, Hard Rock Stadium, and Formula One’s Miami Grand Prix. Tsai, owner of the NBA’s Brooklyn Nets and WNBA’s New York Liberty, plans to purchase an additional 3% stake through his family office, Blue Pool Capital.
If the deal is finalized, it would be the first private equity transaction since the NFL revised its ownership rules in August to permit institutional investors to buy stakes in franchises. The league’s decision to allow private equity firms to own up to 10% of any franchise was aimed at attracting billions in new capital while boosting valuations and providing greater financial flexibility for team owners.
Also provides rationale for locking up the flashy assets at big bucks.
must be tremendous pressure on Tua to keep playing to keep the valuation from eroding.
If Tua opts out, Dolphins future becomes bleak with big money in assets not flashing anymore.
https://www.privateequitywire.co.uk/ares-closing-in-on-dolphins-deal-at-8-1bn-valuation/
Private equity firm Ares Management and billionaire Joe Tsai are in advanced discussion with Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross over the acquisition of stakes in the NFL team and related assets in deals that would value the business at $8.1bn, according to a report by Bloomberg.
The report cites unnamed sources familiar with the matter as revealing that the potential transaction would see Ares Management acquire a 10% stake in a package that includes the Dolphins, Hard Rock Stadium, and Formula One’s Miami Grand Prix. Tsai, owner of the NBA’s Brooklyn Nets and WNBA’s New York Liberty, plans to purchase an additional 3% stake through his family office, Blue Pool Capital.
If the deal is finalized, it would be the first private equity transaction since the NFL revised its ownership rules in August to permit institutional investors to buy stakes in franchises. The league’s decision to allow private equity firms to own up to 10% of any franchise was aimed at attracting billions in new capital while boosting valuations and providing greater financial flexibility for team owners.
Ok....as far as QB's
Here are my current rankings
1. Cam Ward
2. Jalen Milroe
3. Carson Beck
4. Sanders
As the season wears on I will be watching thos top 3 more and more because IMO they are clearly the top 3. I loved how Carson Beck bounced back in that second half vs Bama. That was aIMO a preview of a future rivalry between Milroe and Beck in the NFL. Beck has a cannon....tall kid...calm and cool. Reminds me of Herbert but not nearly as mobile.
Milroe looks special. Like Lamar Jackson special. He has incredible tools and a real deal arm. I would like to see him get a little bigger and stronger and he will.
Cam Ward looks special too. Slight concerns are too much arrogance and what I mean is taking some things for granted because of his ridiculous physical skills. In the NFL he will get hit hard....like really hard if he is showing up LB's gliding out of bounds without a care in the world. His arm talent is undeniable. My other concern is also strength of the competition he is playing. Miami won't be truly tested this season till they go into the CFP (yes I expect them to make the top 12 this season due to that weak schedule). So that will also tell us some things. But Cam is a gamer.
At this point I am comfortable with the Dolphins moving on and taking any of the top 3 in that group to try and go in a new direction. Tua is simply not the answer...never was as you all know I have said that from day 1 and I was a huge Herbert advocate before the draft. Anyway we can't change the awful....franchise killing draft of 2020.
We took 3 busts.
Tua - has finished one....one season. Has never won a post season game and quite frankly has feasted on weak under .500 teams and when it's time to win....7-15 lifetime vs teams over .500 with an average of 235 yards per game, 1TD and QB rating of 92
Austin Jackson - drafted to be a LT, now our average starting RT.....ok...not a total bust.
Iggabust - Do I even need to say anything else?
I am not a Jaylen Waddle fanboi. I think he is soft, has too many concentration drops......and wanted Devonte Smith over him at that point since we traded down out of the Jamar Chase position. I did like Phillips....and unfortunately he is now again missing a season. I feel for the guy.
I love Holland.
Grier has been brutal in assembling an OL. Last seasons line was probably the best we have seen in years and years......but again this years line is a total dumpster fire. The Armstead contract another albatros free agent move. And we lost Wilkins who was simply the heart and soul of our defense. We also lost Van Kinkel who was a really great player on this defense. A play maker.
We let them walk.
We extend Tua....which was a huge mistake. We absolutely should have let him play on his 5th year option. He has done nothing to deserve that extension before we saw if he could finish a second straight season, win atleast one post season game. But nope......they caved and they did not have to.
And extending McDaniel? What has he done to warrant that? I am still trying to figure that out.
So what do we do to replace McD and Grier?
Let's start with Head Coaches
1. Eric Bieniemy
2. Dan Quinn
3. Ben Johnson
4. Bobby Slowik
In no particular order.
GM Canidates
1. Adam Peters - SF Asst GM this guy is the top dude in my mind. He is ready to take on his own team.
2. John Spytek and Mike Greenberg - Tamapa Bay Assistant GM's
Go get any of those asst GM's I mentioned.
Will Ross do it? Will he tear it all down after we win maybe 3-4 games this season? I don't expect Tua to finish the season....I really don't. This OL can't protect any QB. And Tua is so fragile.....it's inevitable. Whether that is another head injury, ribs, whatever.....he is gonna get killed.
I mean Tua's contract is already gonna kill us for a few years.....we do have an out in year 3 of the extension or is it year 4.......I don't care....go draft another QB if we have a top 3 pick in 2025.....we have to. And the QB we take can sit behind Tua for a year or two unless of course Tua just retires in 2025 or 2026. I don't expect Tua to play this contract out....nope.
Trade Tyreek before the deadline this year......you gotta get picks.....hoard picks. As many as we can for the new regime. Funny...will Grier do that and in the back of his mind think he may be canned?
It's a dumpster fire here in South Florida again. But if I am Stephen Ross and I am signing the check....I give the marching orders soon. I know he will wait to see Tua come back and that will be the undoing. But if not this season........once the season is over...Black Monday happens.
You fire McD and Grier.......screw the extension you gave McD and pay him out with whatever terms were in case of termination.......tax loss. Grier...gone. Get your new regime in and let them get to work in February and hit the ground running.
Deal veterans like Hill ( our biggest asset) hoard draft picks and start over.
We need to. This window is closed.
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nightmare
Footballguy
The ability to complain is in direct proportion with the ability to be replaced.
Hill has not been a problem on the football side. Practices hard, been healthy, played last year when banged up. He had a couple steps on 2 deep passes in the TEN game, Tua likely would've completed 1 of them, maybe 2. Most Dolphin fans would rank Grier, McDaniel, and some soft players as bigger problems. Hill is not soft and only wants better quarterback play.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I disagree here. He has to realize that this timing isn't working with the new QB cadence and change the approach.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Open message to Mr. Ross...go hire Robert Saleh as a special consultant the rest of this year and defensive coordinator next year. Guy is going to have a bone to pick with the Jets and want to make a statement the next few years, knows the AFC East and knows how to run a defense.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I should be more excited for the Tua news but I'm just sad that he keeps risking his long term health like this.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I love this idea
Our Defense despite some major injuries hasn't looked too bad
I never hear Ramsey's name mentioned much during the games, is he injured right now?
Saleh would be a welcome addition to what they are doing.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Packers pick him up quickly
McDaniel can go 6-11 and nothing is going to happen to him
Ross would probably laugh if anyone questioned him about McDaniel
Just my gut feeling, it will take a lot of losing this year and into 2025 before he would even consider a change IMHO
Ross takes a beating mostly in the media and yet coming into '24 the Phins had 4 seasons in a row over 2 Head Coaches with reg season winning records
To him that's light years better than a decade ago
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bills 6-2
Jets 3-6
Phins 2-5
Pats 2-6
Miami will try to not slip into the cellar this weekend on the road vs the Bills, how many players will Miami lose to season ending injuries this weekend?
How many snaps can they get from Armstead at Left Tackle, that guy was on the sidelines when Tua was down 31-10 vs the Bills, yes/no?
I watched Adams use his speed he still has and I know Hill is still really fast, can't they just lob a little 25-30 yd fly pattern, 2 step drop and loft it out there for Hill to run under and get?
Miami should not have to work so hard to score points. They were up 28-17 vs the Cards and blew it
What role did Tua have in the Safety? One of a couple deciding factor in the football game
-I did not run in here and start lighting the Phins effort vs Arizona, overall it was a fun football game. It was a lot more fun than watching Miami 10 years ago, just keeping it real.
Miami has plenty of winnable football games on their schedule but they need to win and win convincingly, halfway thru the season and they have a win against the Pats and Jags by a FG
The defense looks shaky but vs the opponents they have ahead, they should be competitive
Don't see much pass rush and I feel like we have prospects from the Draft that have been total no shows in the regular season
Jets 3-6
Phins 2-5
Pats 2-6
Miami will try to not slip into the cellar this weekend on the road vs the Bills, how many players will Miami lose to season ending injuries this weekend?
How many snaps can they get from Armstead at Left Tackle, that guy was on the sidelines when Tua was down 31-10 vs the Bills, yes/no?
I watched Adams use his speed he still has and I know Hill is still really fast, can't they just lob a little 25-30 yd fly pattern, 2 step drop and loft it out there for Hill to run under and get?
Miami should not have to work so hard to score points. They were up 28-17 vs the Cards and blew it
What role did Tua have in the Safety? One of a couple deciding factor in the football game
-I did not run in here and start lighting the Phins effort vs Arizona, overall it was a fun football game. It was a lot more fun than watching Miami 10 years ago, just keeping it real.
Miami has plenty of winnable football games on their schedule but they need to win and win convincingly, halfway thru the season and they have a win against the Pats and Jags by a FG
The defense looks shaky but vs the opponents they have ahead, they should be competitive
Don't see much pass rush and I feel like we have prospects from the Draft that have been total no shows in the regular season
Josh Allen owns us. I repeat Josh Allen owns us.
Our defense is very soft. We can't stop the run when it counts. We are highly vulnerable up the middle.
Tua's lifetime numbers vs the Bills (8 games)
Passer Rating of 74.1
1599 yards (avg of 200 yards per game)
7 TD (avg of less than 1 TD per game)
10 INT ( avg of 1.25 INT per game)
62% comp %
Tua has a 1-7 lifetime record vs the Bills and oh...has suffered 2 of his documented 3 concussions (but we know it's really 3 concussions vs the Bills)
Josh Allen lifetime numbers vs Dolphins (13 games)
Passer Rating of 110
3502 Yards (269 yards per game avg)
660 Yards Rushing (51 yards per game avg)
34 TD's (2.6 TD's per game avg)
7 INT (.53 int er game avg)
11-2 lifetime record in those 13 games.
Brothers.......more of the same? Yeah. We are getting more of the same with this roster this season.
It won't be pretty.
Let's look at the rest of the schedule assuming Tua plays every game (fat chance)
At Rams - Loss
vs Raiders - Win
vs Patriots - Win
at Packers - Loss
vs Jets - Loss
at Texans - Loss
vs 49ers - Loss
at Browns - Loss
at Jets - Loss
I have us going 4-13.......with Tua. Why? Defense, Head Coaching, OL all sub par and we need to move on from this regime.....as fast as we can.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
at Bills - Win, Buffalo way over confident, check Ronnie Brown at the Patriots '08, Miami will have something up their sleeve
at Rams - Win, Ramsey's Revenge!
vs Raiders - Win but closer than it should be
vs Patriots - Win but closer than it should be
at Packers - Loss on Thanksgiving at Lambeau
vs Jets - Win, have you seen the Jets?
at Texans - Loss, yeah likely
vs 49ers - Loss, yeah likely
at Browns - Win
at Jets - ??? I have Miami at 8-8 traveling to the Jets trying to make it 5 winning seasons in a row
-Would you like to wear these rose colored glasses I borrowed?
Check back at seasons end.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Plenty to complain about with the offense with Tua out and McDaniel's inability to adapt the offense when he had to go to the backups. But when Tua is healthy the offense has looked good in 3 out of 4 games. It's the defenses inability to stop anyone that is the shining issue. This why I wanted them to get Salah on staff in some form. At least the last few weeks have been fun.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You have not seen me coming in here ready to rip them on Mondays since Tua returned
29-28 loss to Arizona, lot more entertaining than what I watched the previous month with Tua OUT, I want to keep it real
30-27 at Buffalo last week, Tua's 2nd game back, lot of short passes, think he was 25 of 28? Maybe that's not right but I thought I saw that
They've lost 2 games 59-55, one of them is running away with the AFC East and the other is in 1st place in the highly competitive NFC West this year, they're tied with SF
Why trash the offense and Tua? They didn't do anything wrong although i would have liked to see Tua challenge with Waddle and Hill more down field but it's a lot better than no Tua
Season is over, it's 2-6 so you can't get to emotional with these last 8-9 games, I would just like to see most of the major contributors not get injured too badly and carry into 2025.
Coaching change? Not gonna happen and I'm not sure I want to run Weaver out the door just yet, he took over a defense with 5-7 new starters, gotta give that some time and more resources, he's missing Phillips and Chubb, we have resources tied up with both of them, Chop is totally nonexistent right now
-My biggest concern is Grier and his inability to draft players that turn into gold. Look at the '22, '23, '24 Drafts, Cam Smith, Chop Robinson, Paul-OL, Tindall-LB, nothing is really doing well outside of Achane which many of us thought was going to be a hit.
OL Grades/Rankings: I was shocked by some of this...
LT- Terron Armstead 1st!....1st out of 77 rated Tackles entering Week 10 of the 2024 season, C'mon, really? I'm shocked but happy
LG-Robert Jones 42/77...average but you don't pay this guy much, he does about as good as he can, we developed this guy as an UDFA
C-Arron Brewer 2nd overall, I could not believe this when I saw it 2nd out of 36 Centers rated on PFF
RG-Eichenberg 58/77...doubt he will be back with the Phins, 2nd Rd pick we traded up to get and has largely been a major disappointment
RT-Austin Jackson 56th out of 77 rated Tackles, back to mediocre at best, they only extended him out 3 seasons and I would like to see them trade this guy if possible or get Tua better blind side help, wouldn' it be nice with a left handed QB to have the best Right Tackle in the NFL.
Tua's blind side is Eich and AJ, that needs addressed and we need some quality OL from the Draft, not just one but maybe two, it benefits this team to have the best OL in the NFL for Tua to operate behind, he cannot protect himself and we'll get to that down the road, Tua's concussions because I don't see him being able to start however many games they extended him. 4 x 17...he won't make it 68 regular season games so Miami better start thinking about finding a back up QB they can pay cheap on a rookie salary for 2-3-4 years and get him ready to enter the game at any moment.
I don't know what they do over there in San Fran but they always have a back up ready to enter the game it seems when you watch them since Kyle Shanahan took over, I thought Sky Thompson was going to be that guy, I still have hopes for him but he failed miserably when given a chance in Seattle, tough assignment and he made the coach look very bad in that moment.
But I can sit there and watch them lose 30-27 for the rest of the year and not be upset, the team looks like they have a chance to win almost any Sunday with Tua
Would it shock you all if they win vs the Rams on MNF? I won't be shocked at all.
We knew the defense had a lot of questions but I will say this Fuller guy at DB, 23rd overall out of 100+ DBs they rank at Cornerback, Ramsey is #2 OVERALL and many of think he was a mistake but the analytics speak differently I guess. The starting Cornerbacks for Miami are pretty good, they need pass rush and they didn't make any trades at the deadline, probably best
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Kader Kohou, UDFA did very well his rookie year, we were all impressed
Last year he started coming back down to just average and this season has not been good at all for him
David Long - ranked dead last on PFF out of 78-83 LBs rated, he is at the bottom
Poyer - Starting Safety and will not be back
Holland - Starting Safety, gonna want and get big money for his extension and he's not having a great year. I think he's gone after this season which is a shame
We are not very good in the middle of the field, we allow the opposing QBs to pick up FDs all the time on 3rd and long
I expect to see many new faces on defense next year.
Miami likely has their starting Cornerback in place for 2025, Fuller and Ramsey are not going anywhere
Last year he started coming back down to just average and this season has not been good at all for him
David Long - ranked dead last on PFF out of 78-83 LBs rated, he is at the bottom
Poyer - Starting Safety and will not be back
Holland - Starting Safety, gonna want and get big money for his extension and he's not having a great year. I think he's gone after this season which is a shame
We are not very good in the middle of the field, we allow the opposing QBs to pick up FDs all the time on 3rd and long
I expect to see many new faces on defense next year.
Miami likely has their starting Cornerback in place for 2025, Fuller and Ramsey are not going anywhere
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Nice road win after B2B heart breakers, this team is very competitive with Tua at QB
23-15 Win at the LA Rams
28-27 L vs Arizona
30-27 L at Buffalo
Tua turned the ball over resulting in points for the Rams or this might have been a little more lopsided like 30-10
Home game vs the Raiders this week and another vs the Patriots the week after, chance to get back to 5-6, some of these losses they've endured are going to haunt them in December
Austin Jackson was put on Injured Reserve and will miss the next 3 games including the Thanksgiving game vs Green Bay
-I liked the energy in the front 7 last night with Chop, Campbell and Sieler causing havoc, need more of that and sorely miss both Phillips and Chubb right now, either would help things a lot
Lot of potential on this team with a few missing pieces
3-6 and looking up, yes/no?
Brighter days ahead, yes/no?
Trying to be optimistic
23-15 Win at the LA Rams
28-27 L vs Arizona
30-27 L at Buffalo
Tua turned the ball over resulting in points for the Rams or this might have been a little more lopsided like 30-10
Home game vs the Raiders this week and another vs the Patriots the week after, chance to get back to 5-6, some of these losses they've endured are going to haunt them in December
Austin Jackson was put on Injured Reserve and will miss the next 3 games including the Thanksgiving game vs Green Bay
-I liked the energy in the front 7 last night with Chop, Campbell and Sieler causing havoc, need more of that and sorely miss both Phillips and Chubb right now, either would help things a lot
Lot of potential on this team with a few missing pieces
3-6 and looking up, yes/no?
Brighter days ahead, yes/no?
Trying to be optimistic
Yeah…..I deal in reality. Not PFF grades which are utterly *********.
This is a bad football team that is poorly coached and has a crap soft culture.
I fell asleep midway thru the 3rd.
Tua is average at best. Average. And 55MM buys you average? That is stealing money. Not only that…..his IQ is out the window lowering his head to tackle on a turnover.
You guys have fun. I am praying for a complete regime change but I know we are not getting it this off season.
My only ray of light is when we opt outta this joke of an extension for Tua in 2026.
My overall mood about the NFL in general is really sour. I hate what this league has become. The quality of the game is at an all time low. It’s laborious to even watch a game between horrible and incessant commercial breaks, replay overload, injuries literally every drive…..and crappy play.
Just bad. And this team is not fun to watch IMO. That run thru early November last season was amazing and since then absolutely hot garbage.
I have zero belief in this organization, coach, QB, GM and soft as tissue culture.
This is a bad football team that is poorly coached and has a crap soft culture.
I fell asleep midway thru the 3rd.
Tua is average at best. Average. And 55MM buys you average? That is stealing money. Not only that…..his IQ is out the window lowering his head to tackle on a turnover.
You guys have fun. I am praying for a complete regime change but I know we are not getting it this off season.
My only ray of light is when we opt outta this joke of an extension for Tua in 2026.
My overall mood about the NFL in general is really sour. I hate what this league has become. The quality of the game is at an all time low. It’s laborious to even watch a game between horrible and incessant commercial breaks, replay overload, injuries literally every drive…..and crappy play.
Just bad. And this team is not fun to watch IMO. That run thru early November last season was amazing and since then absolutely hot garbage.
I have zero belief in this organization, coach, QB, GM and soft as tissue culture.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You forgot to mention all the yellow flags combined with this new eye in the sky that almost eliminates the need for red challenge flags
Don't let me stand in your way
FarFromHome
Footballguy
One thing I've learned from decades of being an NFL fan is the landscape changes very quickly in this league. One week your futile and we blink and your being talked about as a wild card team others don't want to play. They just won. They have some pieces on offense that would surprise no one if it went on an absolute tear. This is a very important stretch for that franchise and McDaniel. Should be fun to watch.
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I don’t have that confidence because of the massive leaks we have on the OL and let’s be real….QB.
Our defense is highly vulnerable up the middle.
This is absolutely not a playoff team.
greedygoat
Footballguy
Defense looked pretty good to me. But I did not go to sleep in the 3rd quarter like you.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I think the defense has been a bright spot all year. Love players like Sieler who just work at their game and continue to get better.
Some question marks on the back end as Poyer seems washed/dumb, but I feel like even Ramsey is playing a bit better.
The Rams OL is dog ****. Vs real OL this defense has been defenseless.
Hence not a playoff team in the least bit.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Ward - only watched him for the first time last week vs GA Tech so probably not a totally fair review. Looks like he can make all the throws for sure but when the game was on the line looked a little like a deer in headlights at the end. I know they do have some other comeback wins so not closing the book on him. Will see more when they get to the playoffs and have to play better teams then the ACC.
Milroe - Still no thanks, I haven't been impressed. Just another Alabama QB that does less with more then every other team. I don't see him as a franchise guy if we are looking for the next Mahomes, Allen, etc he isn't it.
Beck - This was the guy I was high on, man he can sling it but is making way too many mistakes and bad turn overs. That isn't going to fly at the next level.
Sanders - Actually moving up my board. He has continued to look good and might be the best QB in this draft.
Allar - Throwing him out there as a guy we might be able to get later first, early second round that if McDaniel is still here could fit into his system. Very accurate (70%), doesn't turn the ball over (had the one 3 INT game against USC other then that only 2 other INT), can move around in the pocket. Plus he's a big kid and not fragile. I think his numbers could be a lot better better but Franklin is a horrible game day coach and their new OC has not been impressive calling plays.
But over all I still don't think it is a great QB draft, I don't think there is a Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams in it.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Has the same problem Caleb Williams has, he holds on to the ball too long. The NFL will eat him up if he doesn't fix it.
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