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2025 Miami Dolphins - Week 1 vs Colts (8 Viewers)

Ramsey for Fitzpatrick
3x All Pro for a 3x All Pro
Ramsey 30, Fitz is 28, at the least Miami was able to bring back an asset that can still be used in future trades
Miami has a couple prospects at DB/Corner, Minkah will solidify their back end of the secondary

But none of this changes all the crap the fans have heard about the culture that Coach M&M brings to the locker room this off season
I would say that Miami did pretty well for a team announcing they were parting ways with Ramsey in April, that usually does not bring back much in a trade,
Minkah still has value IMHO, was kind of shocked they got him in return.
Rumors were a 5th and a 6th from the Rams for Ramsey, I think Miami did much better
 
At one point this team seemed to be set to light the world on fire, now they seem on the brink of a complete rebuild. What could have been. They have a pretty soft schedule, if they cannot make it happen this year I would think they blow things up.
 
At one point this team seemed to be set to light the world on fire, now they seem on the brink of a complete rebuild. What could have been. They have a pretty soft schedule, if they cannot make it happen this year I would think they blow things up.
27 yr old Center on the OL coming off a PFF ranking of 7th overall
27 yr old LG James Daniels swings over from the Steelers
Rookie RG Savaiinaea (I'd like to buy a vowel) was one of the highest rated picks in the Draft after the 1st round, he was 37th overall I believe
They have done a lot for the IOL
Patrick Paul is a 2nd year Left Tackle and must fill Armstead's role which isn't likely but he's young and the team is optimistic of course
Austin Jackson enters a pivotal year at RT, he's just 25-26 yrs old

If the OL is in the Top 15 this year, Miami's offense will be much better because they will have holes open for Achane and others, give Tua a little time to exploit Hill and Waddle
I'm not sure rebuild is in the cards, maybe a new QB but it would be nice if Miami could fix their OL problems before jettisoning everyone
 
At one point this team seemed to be set to light the world on fire, now they seem on the brink of a complete rebuild. What could have been. They have a pretty soft schedule, if they cannot make it happen this year I would think they blow things up.
27 yr old Center on the OL coming off a PFF ranking of 7th overall
27 yr old LG James Daniels swings over from the Steelers
Rookie RG Savaiinaea (I'd like to buy a vowel) was one of the highest rated picks in the Draft after the 1st round, he was 37th overall I believe
They have done a lot for the IOL
Patrick Paul is a 2nd year Left Tackle and must fill Armstead's role which isn't likely but he's young and the team is optimistic of course
Austin Jackson enters a pivotal year at RT, he's just 25-26 yrs old

If the OL is in the Top 15 this year, Miami's offense will be much better because they will have holes open for Achane and others, give Tua a little time to exploit Hill and Waddle
I'm not sure rebuild is in the cards, maybe a new QB but it would be nice if Miami could fix their OL problems before jettisoning everyone
Thanks for the OL breakdown, hopefully they can gel this year and Tua can stay healthy. Rebuild may have been the wrong term, but certainly a reset if looking at a new quarterback next year and assume if things go poorly this season Hill would be moved (or at best another year older).
 
Darren Waller....didn't have that one on my bingo card. I was hoping for Kmet as he seemed like he might be available with Loveland drafted in Chicago and he is a guy I always though got overlooked. Waller is a big IF, if he has his head on straight, if he hasn't fallen back into his old habits off the field, if he's healthy (would assume so after a year off). 32 but doesn't have a ton of milage and the OC was his position coach when he had his two huge seasons in Oakland.

Upside probably higher then Jonnu but the floor is way lower.
 
As I posted in another thread and will repeat...

The Miami Dolphins are not trading for a Tight End
FF fans fail to realize the damage to the Miami offense of having Smith lead the team in receptions and yards when you have Tyreek Hill and Waddle as your WR1 and WR2
The POV that is being projected by most posters since this trade is focused on their desire to insert a Tight End on to their fantasy football roster, and good for you
But the Miami Dolphins are not run like your Dynasty team...Redrafters could care less where Smith ends up and are not going to try and over hype him, fine he's a Steeler now, big deal

Hill-Waddle-Achane are the primary weapons in Miami, PERIOD!
Grier has been the GM now for a decade and has zero playoff victories and seems to be in no danger of losing his job since the 85 yr old owner gets to do what he wants
The owner was suspended for Half a Season and the GM just continues to plug along with no real benchmarks he needs to meet.

Plus Miami has rebuilt their IOL, that should be your focus and not where a 30-yr old veteran TE signed as a free agent produces a career year...you see where I'm going here
WAKE UP!

Who was the Miami Tight End in 2023 when they were whooping *** to start the season and went 11-6 and landed in the Freezer Bowl vs KC?
Durham Smythe so don't tell the Miami fan base what the impact of Jonnu Smith was, 88/888/8TDs, good for Jonnu but bad for Miami as the results were a 9-8 season
It's not personal, I didn't directly rebuke any single individual so don't make this personal, it's business!

BOOM!
Preach brother! I just wrote this exact same thing in the Achane thread lol.

Hill, Waddle an Achane with some Wright mixed in. NWI can help out as well if needed - he can score TDs as that big bodied receiver (he had 9 TDs last year on the crappy Titans).
 
So interesting exercise. Tua takes a lot of heat and rightfully so for not being able to stay healthy and hasn't shown he can win the big game yet. That said I'm interested to see what QB from another team given everything else on the Dolphins staying the same would give you the warm and fuzzies that we are set at QB for say the next 3 to 5 years, moving in the right direction and can compete now.

AFC East
Josh Allen - Yes
Drake Maye - Incomplete, haven't seen enough yet but possibly
Justin Field - No
Tua - N/A

AFC North
Lamar Jackson - Yes
Joe Barrow - Yes
Aaron Rodgers - No, he's retiring after this year almost for sure.
Any Browns QB - No

AFC South
Trevor Lawrence - Yes, although has questions.
Cam Ward - No/Maybe, I'm not enamored with Ward but he does give you hope of the unknown.
CJ Stroud - Yes
Anthony Richardson/Daniel Jones - No

AFC West
Justin Herbert - Yes
Geno Smith - No, overrated
Bo Nix - Incomplete, haven't seen enough yet but possibly
Patrick Mahomes - Yes

NFC East
Jayden Daniels - Yes
Jalen Hurts - Yes, although I think he is way overrated you have to say yes based on track record.
Russell Wilson - No
Dak Prescott - No, hasn't done anymore then Tua with more to work with and more time.

NFC Central
Jordon Love - Yes
Caleb Williams - Yes
JJ McCarthy - No
Jared Goff - Maybe

NFC South
Michael Pennix - No
Bryce Young - No
Baker Mayfield - Yes, but not by a ton.
Any Saints QB - No

NFC West
Sam Darnold - No
Kyler Murray - Yes
Brock Purdy - Yes
Matt Stafford - Maybe, for one year yes but he only has one, maybe two years left.
 
At one point this team seemed to be set to light the world on fire, now they seem on the brink of a complete rebuild. What could have been. They have a pretty soft schedule, if they cannot make it happen this year I would think they blow things up.
27 yr old Center on the OL coming off a PFF ranking of 7th overall
27 yr old LG James Daniels swings over from the Steelers
Rookie RG Savaiinaea (I'd like to buy a vowel) was one of the highest rated picks in the Draft after the 1st round, he was 37th overall I believe
They have done a lot for the IOL
Patrick Paul is a 2nd year Left Tackle and must fill Armstead's role which isn't likely but he's young and the team is optimistic of course
Austin Jackson enters a pivotal year at RT, he's just 25-26 yrs old

If the OL is in the Top 15 this year, Miami's offense will be much better because they will have holes open for Achane and others, give Tua a little time to exploit Hill and Waddle
I'm not sure rebuild is in the cards, maybe a new QB but it would be nice if Miami could fix their OL problems before jettisoning everyone
I don't think this group inspires confidence at all. I think there is a fair chance this goes off the rails quickly.
 
At one point this team seemed to be set to light the world on fire, now they seem on the brink of a complete rebuild. What could have been. They have a pretty soft schedule, if they cannot make it happen this year I would think they blow things up.
27 yr old Center on the OL coming off a PFF ranking of 7th overall
27 yr old LG James Daniels swings over from the Steelers
Rookie RG Savaiinaea (I'd like to buy a vowel) was one of the highest rated picks in the Draft after the 1st round, he was 37th overall I believe
They have done a lot for the IOL
Patrick Paul is a 2nd year Left Tackle and must fill Armstead's role which isn't likely but he's young and the team is optimistic of course
Austin Jackson enters a pivotal year at RT, he's just 25-26 yrs old

If the OL is in the Top 15 this year, Miami's offense will be much better because they will have holes open for Achane and others, give Tua a little time to exploit Hill and Waddle
I'm not sure rebuild is in the cards, maybe a new QB but it would be nice if Miami could fix their OL problems before jettisoning everyone
I don't think this group inspires confidence at all. I think there is a fair chance this goes off the rails quickly.
I agree, unless the rookie is a world beater year one and the rest are improved it could be more of the same struggles. All this speed on offense cannot be utilized unless they have protection, not sure why it is not a greater priority in MIA.
 
Wilkins was released by the Raiders and apparently they are not going to pay him his guaranteed money, I'd like to know more about his injury
Was he in jeopardy of missing '25 as well? If he's cheap, Miami could definitely invite him back, the defense was actually good when he was here

Wilkins is filing a grievance with the NFLPA, this is going to be a landmark type case due to the size of the contract and the guaranteed money.
Teams have cut players that were due a lot of money but typically they just pay them the money and move on, spread it out over the cap for a couple years
Not this time
 
You might have heard me mention that Jonah Saviinaea was heralded as one of the best picks in the draft, hard to believe until you see what he's done the first 2 days of camp
He is letting people know the IOL is going to be his domain

If Miami somehow has fixed a major issue, the OL and with all their skill players/speed, could be a different year than many are predicting
 
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Ouch!

I don't know what Miami is going to do
What GM and HC would try this hard to have nothing at the Cornerback/Secondary?
All 3 starting Cornerbacks from last season are now gone and Miami opted to take a DT over a potential starting CB in last year's Draft, they also could have had 2 starting DBs much like Philly pulled off in 2024, Starks was there for the taking at 32 and Miami traded up to 37 to get a RG

:tfp:
 
Most of the Shark Pool will only care what the Phins can do on offense and don't care about their struggles and holes on defense

Omar Kelly reported that Patrick Paul has been dominant in practice winning all his 1 on 1 drills except for one snap
LG - James Daniels held his own and the rookie RG Savaiinaea was up and down but that happens with rookies in their first NFL training camp
OLine is the key for Miami to keep Tua upright or allow for one of the new back ups to shine in relief or injury fill in as Tua gets hurt a lot
 
Wilkins was released by the Raiders and apparently they are not going to pay him his guaranteed money, I'd like to know more about his injury
Was he in jeopardy of missing '25 as well? If he's cheap, Miami could definitely invite him back, the defense was actually good when he was here

Wilkins is filing a grievance with the NFLPA, this is going to be a landmark type case due to the size of the contract and the guaranteed money.
Teams have cut players that were due a lot of money but typically they just pay them the money and move on, spread it out over the cap for a couple years
Not this time
Thinking the Dolphins may have dodged a bullet letting him walk. Saw some conversation was that getting cut was because he wasn't putting in the work on trying to rehab and way behind. Of course if he stays no way to know if he gets injured but maybe the front office actually saw the lack of work effect and said we aren't paying this guy top of the market money. I mean it might be a first for them but it is possible.
 
Wilkins was released by the Raiders and apparently they are not going to pay him his guaranteed money, I'd like to know more about his injury
Was he in jeopardy of missing '25 as well? If he's cheap, Miami could definitely invite him back, the defense was actually good when he was here

Wilkins is filing a grievance with the NFLPA, this is going to be a landmark type case due to the size of the contract and the guaranteed money.
Teams have cut players that were due a lot of money but typically they just pay them the money and move on, spread it out over the cap for a couple years
Not this time
Thinking the Dolphins may have dodged a bullet letting him walk. Saw some conversation was that getting cut was because he wasn't putting in the work on trying to rehab and way behind. Of course if he stays no way to know if he gets injured but maybe the front office actually saw the lack of work effect and said we aren't paying this guy top of the market money. I mean it might be a first for them but it is possible.
The new narrative for why he was let go is about kissing the head of a teammate playfully in the locker room and that player went straight to HR to launch a formal complaint
-I don't know what's true and what's not
 
Most of the Shark Pool will only care what the Phins can do on offense and don't care about their struggles and holes on defense
They should.

The default reaction is that "well, if a team's defense isn't good, that means the offense will put up a ton of points". Sure, that's a good possibility if they have Burrow/Chase/Higgins/etc.... But I think it can work the other way, too - that the team's offense gets fewer opportunities and worse field position. Plus, having a good defense will put its offense in better positions to score.
 

Willie Gay Jr is the standout in cap thus far, not sure that's a good sign of things to come this year
 
Quinn Ewers had receivers drop a lot of balls but still 5 of 18 is scary bad, fumbles on the 3 yd line, they make Tua look like a Pro Bowler
Zach Wilson was really no better, hard to take a QB seriously that has "Zero" for their number

Miami is just a couple key injuries from being really really bad
 
Ollie Gordon looked pretty good, Jaylen Wright looked mediocre 9 carries for 16 yds
Gordon looks bigger than the other RBs, was pretty hyped coming into his Senior year in college

Not much to write home about for the Phins overall
Waddle got hurt in practice this past Friday and therefore did not play Sunday
Availability is so important no matter what skills a player brings with them
 
Ollie Gordon looked pretty good, Jaylen Wright looked mediocre 9 carries for 16 yds
Gordon looks bigger than the other RBs, was pretty hyped coming into his Senior year in college

Not much to write home about for the Phins overall
Waddle got hurt in practice this past Friday and therefore did not play Sunday
Availability is so important no matter what skills a player brings with them
It would be nice to see Waddle healthy, it always seems like he is dinged in some fashion.
 
Ollie Gordon looked pretty good, Jaylen Wright looked mediocre 9 carries for 16 yds
Gordon looks bigger than the other RBs, was pretty hyped coming into his Senior year in college

Not much to write home about for the Phins overall
Waddle got hurt in practice this past Friday and therefore did not play Sunday
Availability is so important no matter what skills a player brings with them
Ollie really did look nice.

Really so out on this offense for fantasy right now. Usually can talk myself into a Dolphin or two near ADP.
 

6 matchups I'll be watching during Lions' joint practices with the Dolphins

JUSTIN ROGERS
AUG 12, 2025

Allen Park — Joint practices are upon us.

After more than three weeks of training camp practices and two preseason games, the Detroit Lions will get some of their best work of the offseason this week with a pair of shared sessions with the Miami Dolphins ahead of their preseason game this Saturday.

Here are six practice-field matchups that will have my attention this week.

Reed vs. Miami’s receivers​

Look, there’s no question about it: Terrion Arnold should top my list of players to watch this week. The problem is we don’t know if the second-year cornerback is going to suit up, and even if he does, what his level of participation will be.

Arnold is dealing with a hamstring strain, which has shelved him the past couple of weeks. He’s close to returning, based on how well he’s been moving while working with trainers off to the side the past few days. However, hamstrings are easily re-aggravated, and that’s not something the Lions need as the regular season nears, no matter how valuable these reps might be for the young defender.

Arnold was cooking to start camp. Charting practice stats is a silly exercise, but if I did, I’m confident he’d have the most pass breakups, even factoring in his recent absence. Last year’s first-round pick looks primed to make a much-anticipated second-year jump after logging more than 1,000 defensive snaps as a rookie when you include the playoffs.

Arnold and Detroit’s cornerbacks get tested daily by a talented corps led by Amon-Ra St. Brown. Still, Miami’s dynamic starting duo of Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle is the fastest starting tandem in the league. If Arnold could have maintained his camp success against them, being less familiar with their tendencies than his teammates, it would have sent the hype train into overdrive.

Assuming Arnold isn’t full go, we’ll settle for Reed matching up against Hill and Waddle, although both receivers could sit out this week with injuries. Hill has an oblique strain, while an undisclosed ailment recently sidelined Waddle.

Reed has proven to be a stellar addition to Detroit’s roster, replacing Carlton Davis III with a similar caliber man-to-man corner on the outside. The Dolphins’ duo are familiar foes for Reed, who saw them twice each year as a member of the New York Jets the past three seasons.

Jamo and TeSlaa vs. Dolphins CBs (and Minkah)​

No projected starter for the Lions has shown more year-to-year growth than Jameson Williams. Coming off a 1,000-yard campaign, the fourth-year receiver has drastically improved as a route runner, showing maturation with his releases, breaks, timing and hands, making him a far more dangerous weapon, overall.

It’s a shame the Dolphins traded Jalen Ramsey this offseason. The three-time All-Pro would have pushed Williams to his limit, particularly at the line. Instead, we’ll see Detroit’s receivers work against the likes of Storm Duck and Kendall Sheffield. It just won’t be the same.

Where Williams will be tested is his ability to take the top off a defense with Minkah Fitzpatrick — the key piece that came back in the Ramsey deal — patrolling deep. Fitzpatrick has 20 career interceptions and led the league in 2022.

Beyond Williams, rookie Isaac TeSlaa merits continued monitoring. The third-round draft pick’s first camp and early preseason performances have been pleasant surprises because of his ability to rapidly clear developmental hurdles.

Even with starter Tim Patrick nursing a quad strain, most of TeSlaa’s work is expected to come with the No. 2 offense, meaning he’ll primarily operate against the Dolphins’ backup corners. No matter, work is work at this early stage of his career, and a veteran like Jack Jones should provide a solid test for TeSlaa.

Detroit’s interior OL vs. the Dolphins’ interior DL​

Fans were offered a first glimpse of Tate Ratledge in last Friday’s preseason game against Atlanta. The rookie guard had more ups than downs. However, it’s difficult to get a full grasp on his abilities when he’s playing between two backups, including an undrafted rookie offensive tackle.

Ratledge is just one piece of an overhauled interior that has Graham Glasgow shifting back to center and Christian Mahogany taking over at left guard after spending most of his college career on the opposite side.

So far, the collective has performed decently during Detroit’s camp. But with Alim McNeill and Levi Onwuzurike out with long-term injuries, they haven’t been fully tested by a defensive interior that thrives at rushing the passer.

Miami rookie Kenneth Grant isn’t that. He’s more like Detroit’s first-round pick, Tyleik Williams, an impressively athletic nose tackle. It will be more telling how Detroit's group handles Zach Sieler, the former Ferris State standout who has finished with 10.0 sacks each of the past two seasons.

On top of the standard matchups, we’ll also want to see how the communication with Detroit’s interior is developing. The Dolphins aren’t an ultra-aggressive blitzing defense under coordinator Anthony Weaver. Still, they did send an extra rusher nearly a quarter of their opponents’ pass plays last year, which would be a sufficient test.

Starting edge rushers vs. the Dolphins OTs​

Aidan Hutchinson looks fully recovered from last year’s broken leg. He's won his fair share of reps against All-Pro right tackle Penei Sewell and traumatized Detroit’s backup blindside blockers while Taylor Decker recovered from offseason shoulder surgery.

To a lesser degree, Marcus Davenport has been doing the same, working opposite Hutchinson. They rush differently, but Davenport has been delivering on expectations as the power complement on the edge.

Like Ramsey, we’re being robbed of a premium practice matchup following the offseason retirement of five-time Pro Bowl tackle Terron Armstead. Instead, Detroit’s duo will likely see plenty of Austin Jackson and Patrick Paul, two average to below-average pass protectors.

No one gets the ball out quicker than Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa. If forced to hold on to it by Detroit’s back seven, Hutchinson and Davenport should have plenty of success this week.

Hooker/Allen vs. Miami’s second-team defense​

Detroit’s backup quarterback competition still hangs in the balance, with veteran Kyle Allen taking a presumptive lead over incumbent Hendon Hooker on the strength of their preseason performances.

Even with two interceptions in the Hall of Fame Game, Allen has been superior, posting a 95.1 passer rating compared to Hooker’s 42.7. That metric doesn’t even account for Hooker's two lost fumbles against Atlanta on Friday.

On the practice field, they’ve been closer to even, which is why it’s premature to hand the job to Allen. Joint practices are unique because they allow the coaching staff to control the situations to sharpen the evaluations.

Let’s see if Hooker can regain some momentum after his rough showings against the Chargers and Falcons.

Keith Cooper vs. the Dolphins’ offensive line​

The easier matchup to close this guide would have been highlighting Tyleik Williams against another rookie, guard Jonah Savaiinaea, who the Dolphins grabbed early in the second round.

I promise that battle won’t be overlooked. Still, Keith Cooper’s ability to build on his early camp momentum is potentially more intriguing. Williams should open the season as a starter. Cooper, meanwhile, is still fighting for a spot on Detroit’s roster.

Cooper is undersized as a defensive tackle, but that frame gives him the versatility to play both inside and on the edge. He had below-average athletic testing during the pre-draft process, causing him to go undrafted. He wasn’t even initially offered a contract as a free agent, having to gain the opportunity through a tryout at Detroit’s rookie minicamp. Regardless, he’s impressed, earning work with the team’s second defensive grouping and a smattering of first-team reps.

Cooper can get an edge on a guard and bull rush a tackle. His frame and skillset are similar to Josh Paschal’s, and Cooper could help the Lions bridge Paschal’s absence as he continues to recover from an offseason injury.
 
Ollie Gordon looked pretty good, Jaylen Wright looked mediocre 9 carries for 16 yds
Gordon looks bigger than the other RBs, was pretty hyped coming into his Senior year in college

Not much to write home about for the Phins overall
Waddle got hurt in practice this past Friday and therefore did not play Sunday
Availability is so important no matter what skills a player brings with them
Ollie really did look nice.

Really so out on this offense for fantasy right now. Usually can talk myself into a Dolphin or two near ADP.
This organization seems like a mess from top to bottom, but I will say I think there is a non-zero chance they surprise in a big way (specifically on offense). They are currently doing fan tryouts for corner which should lead to playing catchup this year. IF Tua can stay on the field and IF the oline improves a bit there could be some nice FF surprises. Waddle and Tua specifically have been a target of mine in drafts due to them sliding.
 
Ollie Gordon looked pretty good, Jaylen Wright looked mediocre 9 carries for 16 yds
Gordon looks bigger than the other RBs, was pretty hyped coming into his Senior year in college

Not much to write home about for the Phins overall
Waddle got hurt in practice this past Friday and therefore did not play Sunday
Availability is so important no matter what skills a player brings with them
Ollie really did look nice.

Really so out on this offense for fantasy right now. Usually can talk myself into a Dolphin or two near ADP.
This organization seems like a mess from top to bottom, but I will say I think there is a non-zero chance they surprise in a big way (specifically on offense). They are currently doing fan tryouts for corner which should lead to playing catchup this year. IF Tua can stay on the field and IF the oline improves a bit there could be some nice FF surprises. Waddle and Tua specifically have been a target of mine in drafts due to them sliding.
I'm think I am just out on Tua overall. They seem to have deduced that the only way to keep Tua on the field is to get the ball out of his hands even faster. Makes me think that 2025 is going to look a lot like the end of 2024.

Afraid to hold the ball long enough for anyone to get down field. Maybe you get a deluge of short targets to Achane/Hill to make it worth it but that is a tough way to live.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
I thought Ewers looked every bit as bad as his numbers. His numbers could have been worse, he was lucky he didn't throw multiple INTs, in addition to his awful fumble. His accuracy was embarrassing, his decision making was bad, and his pocket presence was bad.

Honestly, given Wilson and Ewers, I think Miami would have been better off sticking with Huntley as the backup, and that's not a pro-Huntley argument at all. There is 1 NFL QB on this roster and that's Tua. Why this team wasn't drafting Milroe or Sanders in round 3/4 I don't know.

As long as Tua stays healthy, this has the looks of Wal-Mart Cincinnati. Start your Dolphins, and especially start guys facing the Dolphins.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
I thought Ewers looked every bit as bad as his numbers. His numbers could have been worse, he was lucky he didn't throw multiple INTs, in addition to his awful fumble. His accuracy was embarrassing, his decision making was bad, and his pocket presence was bad.

Honestly, given Wilson and Ewers, I think Miami would have been better off sticking with Huntley as the backup, and that's not a pro-Huntley argument at all. There is 1 NFL QB on this roster and that's Tua. Why this team wasn't drafting Milroe or Sanders in round 3/4 I don't know.

As long as Tua stays healthy, this has the looks of Wal-Mart Cincinnati. Start your Dolphins, and especially start guys facing the Dolphins.
Miami is running out of rope imo. There is a small chance that everything comes together and the offensive players become a value where they are drafted in FF, but the margin of error is razor thin. They do not seem to have any idea what they are doing from a roster construction standpoint, instead filling gaps where they please and ignoring key positions like QB and oline (I am aware they did take a lineman in round 2, but I don’t think it will prove to be enough).
 
Basically that. It can work, we've seen it, but I'm not betting it on most of these guys at ADP.

I'll take a discount or two though. Sometimes Tyreek slides and the WR #1 upside is still in his body.
 
I would give Ewers the rest of preseason to give even a preliminary verdict. Aside from the first throw, which was high but touched Armstrong's hands, he threw accurately and to spots ALA Tua, but Miami's big 6th and 7th string WRs weren't getting open.

On the first fumble he was escaping the pocket but tripped on his oline man's feet causing him to get off balance. On the last fumble at the end of the game, he didn’t have a chance with early penetration.

BTW, Chop is ok.
 

Detroit Lions practice with Dolphins ends with skirmish between Jameson Williams, ex-Lion


Ifeatu Melifonwu returned to the Detroit Lions practice facility Wednesday, Aug. 13, for the first time since signing with the Miami Dolphins in free agency, and the fifth-year safety was involved in a minor skirmish at the end of the first day of joint practices with his old team.

Melifonwu and Lions receiver Jameson Williams appeared to exchange swings as the Lions and Dolphins broke practice for the day.

Players from both teams were headed to their respective fields after Jared Goff threw incomplete to Williams in the end zone on the final play of practice. Melifonwu and Williams exchanged words, and players from both teams rushed to break up the scuffle as tempers flared.

"No bad blood, just football," Williams said when asked about the incident as he left the field.

Asked if he had any hostility towards Williams or the Lions, Melifonwu said, "Nah, (expletive) just gets chippy. Joint practices."

The Lions and Dolphins exchanged shoves on several occasions Wednesday, though nothing escalated to a full-blown fight.

Rookie receiver Isaac TeSlaa and Dolphins cornerback Jack Jones had a brief shoving match after TeSlaa blocked Jones on a goal-line rushing play, and rookie guard Tate Ratledge bumped helmets with Jones when he ran to Jahmyr Gibbs' side after Jones tried to knock the ball away from Gibbs following a Lions touchdown.

Williams declined to say what prompted his skirmish with Melifonwu, who played for the Lions from 2021-24.

"I forgot," he said. "I forgot. I’m just more focused on tomorrow."

Lions receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown said he was happy to see the fight from some of the Lions' young players, even if he doesn't condone fighting in joint practices.

"You love to see young guys compete, that's the biggest thing," St. Brown said. "Isaac's putting his head in there, he's blocking and that's something I feel like as a young guy, us older players respect that cause that's just telling us when he's with us out there on Sundays he's going to put his life on the line, he's going to block, go get that safety.

"For young guys to go in there and put their head in there and hit guys that maybe they've never hitin their first joint practice of their career, things get chippy, guys start fighting. You don't want to fight in joint practices but it happens. But just being able to compete for young guys, it's one of the best things they can do."

Dave Birkett covers the Lions for the Detroit Free Press. Contact him at dbirkett@freepress.com. Follow him on Bluesky, X and Instagram at @davebirkett.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
I thought Ewers looked every bit as bad as his numbers. His numbers could have been worse, he was lucky he didn't throw multiple INTs, in addition to his awful fumble. His accuracy was embarrassing, his decision making was bad, and his pocket presence was bad.

Honestly, given Wilson and Ewers, I think Miami would have been better off sticking with Huntley as the backup, and that's not a pro-Huntley argument at all. There is 1 NFL QB on this roster and that's Tua. Why this team wasn't drafting Milroe or Sanders in round 3/4 I don't know.

As long as Tua stays healthy, this has the looks of Wal-Mart Cincinnati. Start your Dolphins, and especially start guys facing the Dolphins.
It's only a matter of time before Tua gets another concussion, I hope he is able to walk away at some point and realize enough is enough, he should have plenty of money now
Miami can walk away from him after this season but still Post June1st so they would have to show their hand ahead of time.

Their inability to build a decent OL for the team to thrive behind has remained a mystery for 20-25 years now
The last good OL I can recall had Webb and Sims at LT-LG and Miami operated well in the early to mid 90s, been a rocky ride ever since.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
I thought Ewers looked every bit as bad as his numbers. His numbers could have been worse, he was lucky he didn't throw multiple INTs, in addition to his awful fumble. His accuracy was embarrassing, his decision making was bad, and his pocket presence was bad.

Honestly, given Wilson and Ewers, I think Miami would have been better off sticking with Huntley as the backup, and that's not a pro-Huntley argument at all. There is 1 NFL QB on this roster and that's Tua. Why this team wasn't drafting Milroe or Sanders in round 3/4 I don't know.

As long as Tua stays healthy, this has the looks of Wal-Mart Cincinnati. Start your Dolphins, and especially start guys facing the Dolphins.
It's only a matter of time before Tua gets another concussion, I hope he is able to walk away at some point and realize enough is enough, he should have plenty of money now
Miami can walk away from him after this season but still Post June1st so they would have to show their hand ahead of time.

Their inability to build a decent OL for the team to thrive behind has remained a mystery for 20-25 years now
The last good OL I can recall had Webb and Sims at LT-LG and Miami operated well in the early to mid 90s, been a rocky ride ever since.
I'm gonna kind of disagree about the OL. They've had some bad injury luck, but I think they had built a pretty good line just a couple years ago, when they had Armstead, Conner Williams, and Robert Hunt. Now all 3 are gone, 2 of whom were because of injuries. They also had a good line in the wildcat days, with Jake Long and Vernon Carey headlining, they just had bad QBs in Moore/Henne.

Its possible Tua gets another concussion, he's certainly at an increased risk, but I think "its only a matter of time" is being too pessimistic. I think Tua is a top-15 NFL QB when he's on the field, and I think McDaniel is a solid play caller (seriously the best HC/QB combo they've had since Marino/Johnson) but Grier has done them no favors. Backup QB should be a bigger priority for almost every team, but especially one who has had their QB on IR 2 of the last 3 seasons.

I think Miami is probably my pick to finish last in the division. I think the Jets D bounces back, and just not having the QB/HC/FO drama is worth a few wins. I think NE has their QB, and takes a step forward (though probably more a 2026 breakout team) which leaves a Miami team, with defensive issues, OL issues, and almost zero depth. I expect Miami to finish somewhat similar to New Orleans last season, only with a much better HC, and hopefully better injury luck, but like NO last year, it can all fall apart pretty quickly.
 
REMINDER - The cart is used liberally during TC

Dolphins edge rusher Chop Robinson was carted off during joint practice with the Lions after going down early in team drills and staying on the ground for several moments. Coaches, trainers, and teammates, including Jaelan Phillips and Lions coach Dan Campbell came over to check in.Robinson appeared to be holding his upper arm as he left, though some on-site are hoping the cart is simply precautionary.
That would be a big loss for Miami. The extent of the injury is TBD.

Per Miami beat writers, the Goff to St. Brown show is on display, although Miami may have the worst CB room in the NFL.

I'm looking forward to seeing Ewers (not as bad as the numbers indicated), the continued development of LT Paul, LG Jonah Savaiinaea, and the run stopping duo of rookies Grant and Jordan Phillips.
I thought Ewers looked every bit as bad as his numbers. His numbers could have been worse, he was lucky he didn't throw multiple INTs, in addition to his awful fumble. His accuracy was embarrassing, his decision making was bad, and his pocket presence was bad.

Honestly, given Wilson and Ewers, I think Miami would have been better off sticking with Huntley as the backup, and that's not a pro-Huntley argument at all. There is 1 NFL QB on this roster and that's Tua. Why this team wasn't drafting Milroe or Sanders in round 3/4 I don't know.

As long as Tua stays healthy, this has the looks of Wal-Mart Cincinnati. Start your Dolphins, and especially start guys facing the Dolphins.
It's only a matter of time before Tua gets another concussion, I hope he is able to walk away at some point and realize enough is enough, he should have plenty of money now
Miami can walk away from him after this season but still Post June1st so they would have to show their hand ahead of time.

Their inability to build a decent OL for the team to thrive behind has remained a mystery for 20-25 years now
The last good OL I can recall had Webb and Sims at LT-LG and Miami operated well in the early to mid 90s, been a rocky ride ever since.
I'm gonna kind of disagree about the OL. They've had some bad injury luck, but I think they had built a pretty good line just a couple years ago, when they had Armstead, Conner Williams, and Robert Hunt. Now all 3 are gone, 2 of whom were because of injuries. They also had a good line in the wildcat days, with Jake Long and Vernon Carey headlining, they just had bad QBs in Moore/Henne.

Its possible Tua gets another concussion, he's certainly at an increased risk, but I think "its only a matter of time" is being too pessimistic. I think Tua is a top-15 NFL QB when he's on the field, and I think McDaniel is a solid play caller (seriously the best HC/QB combo they've had since Marino/Johnson) but Grier has done them no favors. Backup QB should be a bigger priority for almost every team, but especially one who has had their QB on IR 2 of the last 3 seasons.

I think Miami is probably my pick to finish last in the division. I think the Jets D bounces back, and just not having the QB/HC/FO drama is worth a few wins. I think NE has their QB, and takes a step forward (though probably more a 2026 breakout team) which leaves a Miami team, with defensive issues, OL issues, and almost zero depth. I expect Miami to finish somewhat similar to New Orleans last season, only with a much better HC, and hopefully better injury luck, but like NO last year, it can all fall apart pretty quickly.
You pick them last and I'm pessimistic? :lol:
You're entitled, I know it was meant for Tua specifically, yeah he's terrific until he's not on the field which is often. It harpooned the Phins last season
Armstead-Connor-Hunt and we didn't even get a full season when they were on all cylinders, Connor went down ACL, Armstead was always injured all week leading up to the games.
Webb and Sims are in the Ring of Honor I think, Webb for sure. Jake Long will not be.
 
Not a Dolphins fan but I live in Miami. Took my 10 y.o. to the Jags preseason game last night. Two thoughts, one football-related, one not.

First of all, I'm assuming this has been chewed over endlessly in the thread, but it still boggles my mind that that the Dolphins are heading into yet another season with crappy backup QBs. There's an old saying that there's no education in the second kick of a mule, but I think by the time you get to No. 3, the education is that you're a glutton for punishment. The weirdest part is that it's not like these are the Peyton-era Colts where the best they could get was Jim Sorgi, since any competent backups would shy away from a situation where they would never see the field. Being Miami's QB2 is pretty much a dream job -- you get to work under a brilliant offensive mind with an injury-prone QB who will likely miss games. How did McDaniel not give Jimmy G (who played under him in SF) the full-court press last year before he signed with the Rams? Even if that wasn't possible, there were a million better options last year than Skylar Thompson, and there were a million better options this year than Zack Wilson. Truly unbelievable.

Non-football observation: The new HRS Express shuttle service is fantastic! You pay $10 to park at either the Golden Glades TriRail or the Seminole Hard Rock, and you get a free shuttle bus to the stadium. I remember taking my son to his first game a couple years ago, and realizing that all the nearby parking options were booked and I was going to have to take his 8-year-old legs on a Bataan Death March from like a mile away. This is so much better.

Only complaint is that they basically pull an old-school Disney "hide the line" game when you're trying to get to the bus after the game. We walked over the pedestrian bridge and I assumed we would just walk right up to the buses, which I could see just feet away. Instead, they took us in this serpentine line back and forth through the parking lot, and then made us wait as each bus filled up. Wasn't awful -- whole process took about 25m -- but this was after a lightly attended preseason game. I would worry a little about how long it might take during the regular season.

All in all, though, a huge improvement. Kudos to whoever it was with the Dolphins and/or Miami-Dade County who implemented this idea
 
Even if that wasn't possible, there were a million better options last year than Skylar Thompson, and there were a million better options this year than Zack Wilson. Truly unbelievable
Miami got lucky this year with Quinn Ewers falling to the 7th round. So far, he looks the part of an NFL QB, at least a serviceable backup QB. The best local beat writer, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald called out Grier (McDaniel must've agreed) for signing Zach on day one of free agency. Barry called our Grier for also signing Mike White, also on day one of free agency 2 years ago. He pointed out their low metrics in pff and other rankings. Not just low, bottom 5%. Skylar teased in preseason in Miami, also this year in Pittsburgh.

Barry also said Miami should not extend Tua - before last years injury. He said the team should see if he could stay healthy and win a playoff game. He was right.

The 🐬 organization does alot of good in the community. For example, their cancer challenge raised over $15M this year, $90M since it started, for the Sylvester Cancer Center. The largest fund raising event in the NFL. A participant is @Ministry of Pain
 
Even if that wasn't possible, there were a million better options last year than Skylar Thompson, and there were a million better options this year than Zack Wilson. Truly unbelievable
Miami got lucky this year with Quinn Ewers falling to the 7th round. So far, he looks the part of an NFL QB, at least a serviceable backup QB. The best local beat writer, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald called out Grier (McDaniel must've agreed) for signing Zach on day one of free agency. Barry called our Grier for also signing Mike White, also on day one of free agency 2 years ago. He pointed out their low metrics in pff and other rankings. Not just low, bottom 5%. Skylar teased in preseason in Miami, also this year in Pittsburgh.

Barry also said Miami should not extend Tua - before last years injury. He said the team should see if he could stay healthy and win a playoff game. He was right.

The 🐬 organization does alot of good in the community. For example, their cancer challenge raised over $15M this year, $90M since it started, for the Sylvester Cancer Center. The largest fund raising event in the NFL. A participant is @Ministry of Pain
The DCC is an amazing event, thank you for thinking of me, much appreciated
The last 2-3 years at the Sylvester Cancer Center has been a very humbling and rewarding experience for my wife and I.
There's a $50M gift from Ken Griffin-Citadel CEO that doesn't show up in this but his name is on the new building and the DCC had a major hand in that donation
 
Even if that wasn't possible, there were a million better options last year than Skylar Thompson, and there were a million better options this year than Zack Wilson. Truly unbelievable
Miami got lucky this year with Quinn Ewers falling to the 7th round. So far, he looks the part of an NFL QB, at least a serviceable backup QB. The best local beat writer, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald called out Grier (McDaniel must've agreed) for signing Zach on day one of free agency. Barry called our Grier for also signing Mike White, also on day one of free agency 2 years ago. He pointed out their low metrics in pff and other rankings. Not just low, bottom 5%. Skylar teased in preseason in Miami, also this year in Pittsburgh.

Barry also said Miami should not extend Tua - before last years injury. He said the team should see if he could stay healthy and win a playoff game. He was right.

The 🐬 organization does alot of good in the community. For example, their cancer challenge raised over $15M this year, $90M since it started, for the Sylvester Cancer Center. The largest fund raising event in the NFL. A participant is @Ministry of Pain
The DCC is an amazing event, thank you for thinking of me, much appreciated
The last 2-3 years at the Sylvester Cancer Center has been a very humbling and rewarding experience for my wife and I.
There's a $50M gift from Ken Griffin-Citadel CEO that doesn't show up in this but his name is on the new building and the DCC had a major hand in that donation
Cool stuff to learn today.
 
Ourlads showing Willie Gay as starting ILB - this likely to stick?
No.
>>Coach Mike McDaniel said Brooks is dealing with a "minor" undisclosed injury, C. Isaiah Smalls II of the Miami Herald reports.

McDaniel said Brooks would have played in Saturday's preseason finale had it been a regular-season contest, so it sounds like the linebacker should be fine for Week 1 against the Colts on Sept. 7. Brooks underwent offseason wrist surgery, but it's unclear if the latest injury is related to that one.<<
 
Ourlads showing Willie Gay as starting ILB - this likely to stick?
No.
>>Coach Mike McDaniel said Brooks is dealing with a "minor" undisclosed injury, C. Isaiah Smalls II of the Miami Herald reports.

McDaniel said Brooks would have played in Saturday's preseason finale had it been a regular-season contest, so it sounds like the linebacker should be fine for Week 1 against the Colts on Sept. 7. Brooks underwent offseason wrist surgery, but it's unclear if the latest injury is related to that one.<<
He is being shown ahead of Dodson and starting alongside Brooks
 
Matt Judon is now a Miami Dolphin

Guess it's Chubb-Phillips-Chop-Judon now on the Edge

-Gay is listed 1st on depth chart alongside Brooks with Britt and Dodson behind them
1st time in a while Miami has depth at ILB and OLB heading into the season

Miami also signed Rasul Douglas at DB/CB, I would assume he is gonna be starting
Storm Duck, Rasul Douglas and Rookie Jason Marshall at NB, he's gonna be abused early on unless he proves he can hold his own in the slot
 
Ourlads showing Willie Gay as starting ILB - this likely to stick?
No.
>>Coach Mike McDaniel said Brooks is dealing with a "minor" undisclosed injury, C. Isaiah Smalls II of the Miami Herald reports.

McDaniel said Brooks would have played in Saturday's preseason finale had it been a regular-season contest, so it sounds like the linebacker should be fine for Week 1 against the Colts on Sept. 7. Brooks underwent offseason wrist surgery, but it's unclear if the latest injury is related to that one.<<
He is being shown ahead of Dodson and starting alongside Brooks
Thanks for the info. Willie Gay flashed more in camp and preseason, but Dodson played well at the end of last season aftet they claimed him off waivers in November.

My guess is that Weaver will play both of them alongside Brooks who is the best LB on Miami's roster.
 

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