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2025 Papal Conclave - UPDATE: **POPE LEO XIV - First American Pope** (1 Viewer)

Foreshadowing from 1986?

 
Sorry. Bunch of things got deleted trying to clean up the political garbage.

Will try to restore if possible.
Not surprising since the Catholic Church is basically a political structure just as much as a religious one. Just my opinion of course but when have that much power and influence it's man's nature to become political and maintain or grow that influence and power.
 
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Aren't they all?
They are nowadays. Pope Alexander VI had at least six, including Lucrezia Borgia.
Well they weren't supposed to.

I despise the practice, but all Catholic clergy are supposed to be celibate since like the 4th century.
Nuh-uh. Celibacy really only hit the mainstream in the eleventh century. For more details, see WIkipedia.

Celibacy is really for monks, not priests.
 
prevost is single, no kids
:confused:
Aren't they all?
They are nowadays. Pope Alexander VI had at least six, including Lucrezia Borgia.
Well they weren't supposed to.

I despise the practice, but all Catholic clergy are supposed to be celibate since like the 4th century.
Nuh-uh. Celibacy really only hit the mainstream in the eleventh century. For more details, see WIkipedia.

Celibacy is was really for monks, not priests.
Fixed.
 
prevost is single, no kids
:confused:
Aren't they all?
They are nowadays. Pope Alexander VI had at least six, including Lucrezia Borgia.
Well they weren't supposed to.

I despise the practice, but all Catholic clergy are supposed to be celibate since like the 4th century.
Nuh-uh. Celibacy really only hit the mainstream in the eleventh century. For more details, see WIkipedia.

Celibacy is really for monks and men married more than 10 years, not priests.
just sayin'
 
lol - the important question about the new Pope has been answered:



Jake Sherman

@JakeSherman
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Pope Leo XIV was "never, ever a Cubs fan," his brother says.


Feel kinda sorry for that brother. When around the family dinner table:

Mom: So your brother became Pope. What have you done with your life?
Brother: I have a steady job at the paint store and I am king of the dance floor at 2001 Odyssey on Saturday nights!
 
Found this an interesting - Cardinal Dolan of NY on the selection of Pope Leo XIV.

There's not political content here in it and I think @Joe Bryant would be interested as it gets to how things go about in the selection process


-QG
 
I love that Kalshi crashed yesterday because of the surge in traffic from people betting on who the new pope would be
 
lol - the important question about the new Pope has been answered:



Jake Sherman

@JakeSherman
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2m
Pope Leo XIV was "never, ever a Cubs fan," his brother says.


Feel kinda sorry for that brother. When around the family dinner table:

Mom: So your brother became Pope. What have you done with your life?
Brother: I have a steady job at the paint store and I am king of the dance floor at 2001 Odyssey on Saturday nights!
Just staying alive…
 
lol - the important question about the new Pope has been answered:



Jake Sherman

@JakeSherman
·
2m
Pope Leo XIV was "never, ever a Cubs fan," his brother says.


Feel kinda sorry for that brother. When around the family dinner table:

Mom: So your brother became Pope. What have you done with your life?
Brother: I have a steady job at the paint store and I am king of the dance floor at 2001 Odyssey on Saturday nights!
Paging @Godsbrother

Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
 
made it to the square today and we saw Leo from a non traditional sunday spot, the loggia above the main entrance to st. peter’s. the sunday angelus is usually at 12p, but he was a minute early. our group loudly joked that you know the new pope is american and not italian cause he was actually on time and not 30 minutes late. must’ve been 200,000 people. the square can hold up to 300,000. they have big screen tvs on the square corners for better viewing. subway was crazy crowded and they had massive security, including metal detectors and bag checks. my 3rd time seeing a pope and it really is a special experience.
 
I'm guessing politics aren't allowed here, but I think I have a really good, apolitical article about Pope Leo XIV. Why is it apolitical? Because apparently politics are not Leo XIV's concern. This author claims to know him and says that he is Augustinian in nature, which I really like. St. Augustine is a bedrock figure in Catholicism.

"Pope Leo has named himself a 'bridge.' This is no idle metaphor. Pontifex Maximus (literally the 'supreme bridge-builder') is his title, but Leo means to embody it. Like Augustine before him, he seeks to span the chasms within the Church: between the traditional and the progressive, the zealous and the hesitant, the doctrinally minded and the pastorally driven. A moderate and temperate soul, he will not flatten difference but order it to service; inviting all to the same table, and calling all to be accountable in love."

 
I'm guessing politics aren't allowed here, but I think I have a really good, apolitical article about Pope Leo XIV. Why is it apolitical? Because apparently politics are not Leo XIV's concern. This author claims to know him and says that he is Augustinian in nature, which I really like. St. Augustine is a bedrock figure in Catholicism.

"Pope Leo has named himself a 'bridge.' This is no idle metaphor. Pontifex Maximus (literally the 'supreme bridge-builder') is his title, but Leo means to embody it. Like Augustine before him, he seeks to span the chasms within the Church: between the traditional and the progressive, the zealous and the hesitant, the doctrinally minded and the pastorally driven. A moderate and temperate soul, he will not flatten difference but order it to service; inviting all to the same table, and calling all to be accountable in love."

Interesting read, thanks for sharing.
 
I'm guessing politics aren't allowed here, but I think I have a really good, apolitical article about Pope Leo XIV. Why is it apolitical? Because apparently politics are not Leo XIV's concern. This author claims to know him and says that he is Augustinian in nature, which I really like. St. Augustine is a bedrock figure in Catholicism.

"Pope Leo has named himself a 'bridge.' This is no idle metaphor. Pontifex Maximus (literally the 'supreme bridge-builder') is his title, but Leo means to embody it. Like Augustine before him, he seeks to span the chasms within the Church: between the traditional and the progressive, the zealous and the hesitant, the doctrinally minded and the pastorally driven. A moderate and temperate soul, he will not flatten difference but order it to service; inviting all to the same table, and calling all to be accountable in love."

Considering the current climate, I think it's a great way for him to go.
 
I'm guessing politics aren't allowed here, but I think I have a really good, apolitical article about Pope Leo XIV. Why is it apolitical? Because apparently politics are not Leo XIV's concern. This author claims to know him and says that he is Augustinian in nature, which I really like. St. Augustine is a bedrock figure in Catholicism.

"Pope Leo has named himself a 'bridge.' This is no idle metaphor. Pontifex Maximus (literally the 'supreme bridge-builder') is his title, but Leo means to embody it. Like Augustine before him, he seeks to span the chasms within the Church: between the traditional and the progressive, the zealous and the hesitant, the doctrinally minded and the pastorally driven. A moderate and temperate soul, he will not flatten difference but order it to service; inviting all to the same table, and calling all to be accountable in love."


That's a good article.

The concept of Unity is fascinating.

Obviously, it sounds great. Unity feels way better than division. But it can be a challenge on how it practically works.

I have seen cases where a push for unity can be a passive way of squashing dissent.

It can become a thing of having a goal of everyone being unified on something and that means the few people with an alternate opinion need to "get in line". That, of course, is not always the case, but it can be a thing. It's an interesting and complicated subject sometimes.
 

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