2025 Philadelphia Eagles - Bleak Friday (117 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

The Bears defense entered today's game ranked 29th in success rate.

This was the worst performance by any offense against them all season.

I fully expect a new play caller by next game.

 

[DJackson10]

Kempenki’s 10 awards for game: Hurts doesn’t like a lot of QB designed runs in play calling

 

[steelwind]

Kempenki’s 10 awards for game: Hurts doesn’t like a lot of QB designed runs in play calling

Makes sense. Hurts did miss games last year due to concussion.

 

[DJackson10]

At least we got a good CB1

Quinyon Mitchell is the most targeted player in the NFL (71 targets)

He's allowing the lowest completion % in the NFL (43.7%)

Best and most reliable player on the Eagles.
#Eagles

 

[rschroeder1]

The Bears defense entered today's game ranked 29th in success rate.

This was the worst performance by any offense against them all season.

I fully expect a new play caller by next game.

Bears fan checking in. Yesterday it seemed like the Eagles running game was solid but maybe not spectacular. Barkley was routinely running for 4-6 yard carries, but it felt like there was a level of impatience with this - without Barkley breaking off long runs, the Eagles "had" to turn to the pass, regardless of the weather conditions.

Had the Eagles committed to the run, I think it's a much closer game.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Our OL in a nutshell

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Our OL in a nutshell

Yup, that’s about right

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Cheer up, fellow Eagles fans! It’s Sunday and the Birds are guaranteed not to lose today!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Our OL in a nutshell

For ALL NFL fans, you should check this out, terrific find and thanks for posting this
I woulda never seen it, incredible breakdown of what's likely going on during multiple plays and not just that one single play call

How much is coaching and how much is the poor OL play as to why the Philly offense is below avg right now?

 

[Zeppelin]

Cheer up, fellow Eagles fans! It’s Sunday and the Birds are guaranteed not to lose today!

The Lions are too so we won't lose ground to you guys.

 

[DJackson10]

This is from Johnny page from BGN this morning

Watched the Eagles' Offense this morning, and it's incredibly clear to me that they started attacking the intermediate middle of the field when chasing the game.

Vs. the Bears, Hurts was 4/5 for 64 yards.

This ENTIRE season he's 14/21 for 250 yards 1 TD, 0 INT.

I've seen enough film on Hurts to know that he CAN throw to these areas but the offense barely ever asks him too, unless they are behind.

This is a Hurts AND a coaching problem. They must be more aggressive. He can do it.

 

[DJackson10]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

 

[FairWarning]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

Running qbs success have been down this year. Look at L Jackson in Baltimore.

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles TE/FB Cameron Latu was on the field for five snaps against the Bears in Week 13.

Philadelphia finally passed with Latu on the field, which led to two notable gains.

Jalen Hurts on three passing plays with Latu on the field:

3/3 for 43 yards and two first downs

 

[DJackson10]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

Because the coach and the OC are dumb

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Our OL in a nutshell

For ALL NFL fans, you should check this out, terrific find and thanks for posting this
I woulda never seen it, incredible breakdown of what's likely going on during multiple plays and not just that one single play call

How much is coaching and how much is the poor OL play as to why the Philly offense is below avg right now?

They’re all related, IMO. One is typically a product of the other.

Here’s another play and from a different angle. When a strength like this turns into a weakness it’s a recipe for disaster.

The play designs and blocking assignments are poor. The OC refuses to believe Calcantara (81) can’t block.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

One of the biggest head scratchers of the Sirianni era. I know he likes to be hands off but he needs to intervene here. It’s not like they even use Calcantara in the passing game to justify him being on the field.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

One of these morons even changed the tush push

 

[Pickle Rody]

Do not fret kids!

13-4 still wins the division. Maybe not the #1 seed but, not bad at all!

If they can put together 5 straight wins to close out the regular season they will be hard to beat in the playoffs!







My optimism knows no bounds!! Do NOT count this team out yet.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

Running qbs success have been down this year. Look at L Jackson in Baltimore.

True but that doesn’t mean a QB run automatically equals a QB hit. We completely abandoned the RPO look and it’s been awful

Also, when a run is called and you need the points you have to go! Look at this play. Hurts has to be better here. It’s blocked up for the QB draw and looks like he had it. He decides to pass, has Goedert open and holds the ball. This all can’t happen. Hurts was pretty damn bad on Friday.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

There’s been a few reports of this and it 100% passes the eye test. The lack or RPO’s and QB runs along with the way he looks running (he’s so timid) makes this all seem legit.

 

[need2know]

One of these morons even changed the tush push

How does patullo mess up the one thing we were great at

 

[need2know]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

There’s been a few reports of this and it 100% passes the eye test. The lack or RPO’s and QB runs along with the way he looks running (he’s so timid) makes this all seem legit.

If this is true it might be time to make plans to move on. Im a huge hurts guy but if hes choosing to take away this huge chunk of his game already I'm out.

 

[DJackson10]

Philadelphia Eagles senior personnel director/advisor to the general manager Dave Caldwell is leaving the Birds to become the Florida Gators’ general manager, according to a report from Pete Nakos of On3.

Caldwell originally joined the Eagles in 2021 after being fired as the Jacksonville Jaguars’ general manager. He was first under the title of “personnel executive” before being promoted to his current description in 2022. Former Denver Broncos vice president of player personnel Matt Russell was also hired to the same “senior personnel director/advisor to the general manager” title that year.

The Eagles then re-hired their former vice president of player personnel and former New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas earlier this year. One would think Douglas will help to fill the void left behind Caldwell.
It seems like Howie Roseman really values having some former top decision-makers on his staff. Considering the Eagles’ front office success in recent years, it’s hard to blame him.
While it’s impossible to parse through exactly what Caldwell contributed to the Eagles from the outside looking in, the team won Super Bowl LIX during his tenure.
Now Caldwell will try to find success in the college ranks. Being close with Florida alumnus Howie Roseman probably didn’t hurt his chances of getting his new job.

 

[DJackson10]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

One of the biggest head scratchers of the Sirianni era. I know he likes to be hands off but he needs to intervene here. It’s not like they even use Calcantara in the passing game to justify him being on the field.

Dude cost us the Was game last year with poor blocks. Had a few blunders in the Rams playoff game too

 

[DJackson10]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

There’s been a few reports of this and it 100% passes the eye test. The lack or RPO’s and QB runs along with the way he looks running (he’s so timid) makes this all seem legit.

If this is true it might be time to make plans to move on. Im a huge hurts guy but if hes choosing to take away this huge chunk of his game already I'm out.

It also doesn’t look good for his “all about winning mentality.

 

[DJackson10]

I’d have said take this with a grain of salt as McLane tends to over sensationalize a lot of stuff but Kempenski already mentioned this on Friday. The coaching staff was on board with this decision.

In his latest podcast, @Jeff_McLane reports that he heard in the offseason that Jalen Hurts did not want to run as much this season because of the two injuries he suffered running the football.

While understandable, it has limited the effectiveness of the run game and the offense overall. If Hurts wants to be a pure pocket passer, he has to be markedly better than he has been

There’s been a few reports of this and it 100% passes the eye test. The lack or RPO’s and QB runs along with the way he looks running (he’s so timid) makes this all seem legit.

There’s also been reports of hurts asking for certain things taken out he isn’t comfortable with but he succeeds when they are run like under center passes etc. page put out they used the middle of the field and he seems timid to make even the slightest risky pass and from what he watched they were lower risk high % plays he had too.

 

[DJackson10]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

One of the biggest head scratchers of the Sirianni era. I know he likes to be hands off but he needs to intervene here. It’s not like they even use Calcantara in the passing game to justify him being on the field.

One theory floating around is because he’s best friends with Hurts from their Oklahoma year. He probably insist that Grant plays. It seems this team is so worried about screwing up at QB again and hurting Jalen’s feelings where he goes the route of Wentz and asks for a trade or something. That’s the only thing I can come up with in all of this. They know they handled the Wentz/Hurts thing wrong and are desperate to not let it happen again. You need to have a happy medium though if yes and no to your QB. Both need to be able to communicate and compromise stuff.

 

[unckeyherb]

Why they continue to put Calcatarra in as a blocker is beyond me

One of the biggest head scratchers of the Sirianni era. I know he likes to be hands off but he needs to intervene here. It’s not like they even use Calcantara in the passing game to justify him being on the field.

One theory floating around is because he’s best friends with Hurts from their Oklahoma year. He probably insist that Grant plays. It seems this team is so worried about screwing up at QB again and hurting Jalen’s feelings where he goes the route of Wentz and asks for a trade or something. That’s the only thing I can come up with in all of this. They know they handled the Wentz/Hurts thing wrong and are desperate to not let it happen again. You need to have a happy medium though if yes and no to your QB. Both need to be able to communicate and compromise stuff.

Apart from inside your head, where else is this theory floating around?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Our OL in a nutshell

For ALL NFL fans, you should check this out, terrific find and thanks for posting this
I woulda never seen it, incredible breakdown of what's likely going on during multiple plays and not just that one single play call

How much is coaching and how much is the poor OL play as to why the Philly offense is below avg right now?

It's a multitude of different things.

1. OC seems to lack any creativity and I have zero confidence that when things go bad, he'll be able to pivot and change strategy. To be honest, I'm not really sure the offense has any strategy, it just looks the same every week. With Fangio, you know, if something doesn't work, he'll try something else. With Patullo, it just seems that he's doing the same thing and expecting different results. I know I've been on the Tank Bigsby bandwagon for about 3 weeks now. If the run game isn't working, try something different, even if it's only for a series or two. You always hear a coach say he needs to put players in positions to make plays and this offensive coaching staff certain isn't doing that enough. To piggy back on the coaching, when a team is undisciplined like the Eagles have been, and continue to be penalized at a high rate, that is coaching to me. Undisciplined teams start at the top.

2. OL play has been subpar. The guys on the line are not 100% and won't be 100% this season. The best we can hope for is that an offseason to recover and guys like Dickerson and Jurgens will return to form.

3. Hurts is trying to be something he's not. He's trying to be a pocket passer, he's a guy who should thrown the ball maybe 25-28 times. In the past, he'd extend drives with his legs and by the 4th quarter, the other teams defenses were worn down because the Eagles almost always won the TOP game. Hurts just looks scared to take hits and certainly doesn't look like he want to run the ball unless he's near the endzone.

I'm sure there's more, but those are the biggest things. If Patullo isn't fired this offseason and a seasoned OC (and it doesn't have to be an NFL guy) isn't brought in, it will be professional malpractice. But, I know Howie Roseman won't accept this and changes will be made both with the coaching staff and the personnel. The teams entire offseason was head-scratching, but I think it was done to put the team in a better place going forward even if the team took a step back this year, which it has.

 

[steelwind]

You can actually implement a successful vanilla offense.
Rush 30 times a game with a 60/40 split between Barkley + Bigsby.
Sprinkle in some play action into QB runs, quick slants, go routes.
There ya go, old school 2000 football.

 

[unckeyherb]

For the first time this season I took a real look at the standings.

The Eagles are currently top in the NFC East at 8-4 with Dallas behind them at 6-5-1. Two weeks ago I thought to myself that the Eagles were going to snooze thier way to back to back divisional championships for the first time in decades. Unbelievably, I am very worried that they won't.

The Cowboys have Detroit this week and then Minny, LAC, Washington and NYG. There is a real world in which they run the tables and end the season at 11-5-1. In that scenario, we need to win 12 games to take the division since the Cowboy's tie actually helps their winning percentage as they'd have one less loss than us if we win eleven total games and end with an 11-6 record (.676% versus .647%).

Our remaining schedule is as follows:

@LAC
Raiders
@Washington
@Buffalo
Washington

Can anyone confidently look a that list and tell me they see four definite wins? I've had Buffalo as a loss all season and I'm confident we'll at-best split with Washington. That means we'd have to beat LAC this Monday and then take out the Raiders leaving maybe the Washington game at the end of the season as a must win game.

I just don't see it.

How the hell did we get here?

 

[need2know]

For the first time this season I took a real look at the standings.

The Eagles are currently top in the NFC East at 8-4 with Dallas behind them at 6-5-1. Two weeks ago I thought to myself that the Eagles were going to snooze thier way to back to back divisional championships for the first time in decades. Unbelievably, I am very worried that they won't.

The Cowboys have Detroit this week and then Minny, LAC, Washington and NYG. There is a real world in which they run the tables and end the season at 11-5-1. In that scenario, we need to win 12 games to take the division since the Cowboy's tie actually helps their winning percentage as they'd have one less loss than us if we win eleven total games and end with an 11-6 record (.676% versus .647%).

Our remaining schedule is as follows:

@LAC
Raiders
@Washington
@Buffalo
Washington

Can anyone confidently look a that list and tell me they see four definite wins? I've had Buffalo as a loss all season and I'm confident we'll at-best split with Washington. That means we'd have to beat LAC this Monday and then take out the Raiders leaving maybe the Washington game at the end of the season as a must win game.

I just don't see it.

How the hell did we get here?

I see 4-1. Only loss at bills. I think herbert sits this week. Washington is a mess. Raiders are a mess

Also cowboys will lose to someone. They wont run the table

 

[unckeyherb]

For the first time this season I took a real look at the standings.

The Eagles are currently top in the NFC East at 8-4 with Dallas behind them at 6-5-1. Two weeks ago I thought to myself that the Eagles were going to snooze thier way to back to back divisional championships for the first time in decades. Unbelievably, I am very worried that they won't.

The Cowboys have Detroit this week and then Minny, LAC, Washington and NYG. There is a real world in which they run the tables and end the season at 11-5-1. In that scenario, we need to win 12 games to take the division since the Cowboy's tie actually helps their winning percentage as they'd have one less loss than us if we win eleven total games and end with an 11-6 record (.676% versus .647%).

Our remaining schedule is as follows:

@LAC
Raiders
@Washington
@Buffalo
Washington

Can anyone confidently look a that list and tell me they see four definite wins? I've had Buffalo as a loss all season and I'm confident we'll at-best split with Washington. That means we'd have to beat LAC this Monday and then take out the Raiders leaving maybe the Washington game at the end of the season as a must win game.

I just don't see it.

How the hell did we get here?

I see 4-1. Only loss at bills. I think herbert sits this week. Washington is a mess. Raiders are a mess

Also cowboys will lose to someone. They wont run the table

I dont think Herbert will sit this Monday.

Washigton just took Denver to OT.

Raiders is a slam dunk, agreed.

I could see the Cowboys winning every game left. They might lose to Detroit, but outside of that game I don't see a loss.

 

[Zeppelin]

I dont think Herbert will sit this Monday.

Washigton just took Denver to OT.

Raiders is a slam dunk, agreed.

I could see the Cowboys winning every game left. They might lose to Detroit, but outside of that game I don't see a loss.

This is the NFL. Any team can beat any team at any time.

 

[Dizzy]

For the first time this season I took a real look at the standings.

The Eagles are currently top in the NFC East at 8-4 with Dallas behind them at 6-5-1. Two weeks ago I thought to myself that the Eagles were going to snooze thier way to back to back divisional championships for the first time in decades. Unbelievably, I am very worried that they won't.

The Cowboys have Detroit this week and then Minny, LAC, Washington and NYG. There is a real world in which they run the tables and end the season at 11-5-1. In that scenario, we need to win 12 games to take the division since the Cowboy's tie actually helps their winning percentage as they'd have one less loss than us if we win eleven total games and end with an 11-6 record (.676% versus .647%).

Our remaining schedule is as follows:

@LAC
Raiders
@Washington
@Buffalo
Washington

Can anyone confidently look a that list and tell me they see four definite wins? I've had Buffalo as a loss all season and I'm confident we'll at-best split with Washington. That means we'd have to beat LAC this Monday and then take out the Raiders leaving maybe the Washington game at the end of the season as a must win game.

I just don't see it.

How the hell did we get here?

I see 4-1. Only loss at bills. I think herbert sits this week. Washington is a mess. Raiders are a mess

Also cowboys will lose to someone. They wont run the table

I believe DAL will beat DET w/o ARSB on the field. ROS are all very winnable... I think they do run the table.

 

[BoltNlava]

All will be well soon- LA Chargers are coming to town and that offense is a paper tiger at best. Weather or not Herbert plays is the least of their worries. That OL isn't stopping much and Philly will bring enough to harass either QB. So Take a breath and enjoy this while it lasts. Washington does look different and may not be a pushover as before. Also- take solace in that anything can happen in the playoffs and usually does.