*** 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers: Rodgers officially signs 1 year deal (12 Viewers)

[Drunken Cowboy]

Rodgers had a low completion percentage AND a low YPA. That's one of the biggest red flags there is for a QB.

The Jets are also the Jets. They had one of the worst running games in the league, nearly a 10% drop% and weird play calling.

Rodgers was clearly not right at the beginning of the year. He moved much better as the season went on. There is good reason to expect improvement this year.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

If that's another word for Philly offense

I certainly don't use if for that. The Eagles can actually throw/convert throwing when it's called for. Mikey/Artie's O? Notsuhmuch.


"Lazard for the sake of a guy who'll be here a year", when you'll actually have to deal assets to get him, just doesn't get me all tingly. They can, and should, attempt to do better.

I like it. Who should Omar go after? Maybe Aiyuk after he can pass a physical? He's a true upgrade both pass and run & might be a dog house candidate in SF.

I would love to see Aiyuk in black and gold, but probably can't swing his salary longterm.

 

[menobrown]

Rodgers had a low completion percentage AND a low YPA. That's one of the biggest red flags there is for a QB.

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

 

[sm8680]

Week 1 game will be very interesting. The HC who wins will get to say the I told you so's. Where as the losing HC may have fend off why did you let him go.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

If that's another word for Philly offense

I certainly don't use if for that. The Eagles can actually throw/convert throwing when it's called for. Mikey/Artie's O? Notsuhmuch.


"Lazard for the sake of a guy who'll be here a year", when you'll actually have to deal assets to get him, just doesn't get me all tingly. They can, and should, attempt to do better.

I like it. Who should Omar go after? Maybe Aiyuk after he can pass a physical? He's a true upgrade both pass and run & might be a dog house candidate in SF.

I would love to see Aiyuk in black and gold, but probably can't swing his salary longterm.

Yeah, I'm still a fan if his leg's right, the contract would make it tough.

 

[sm8680]

Steelers have a 30 per year WR. The highest paid defense in the league. The likely hood of them aquiring a 2nd WR who commands a nice chunk of change like Ayyuk are slim to none.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Steelers have a 30 per year WR. The highest paid defense in the league. The likely hood of them aquiring a 2nd WR who commands a nice chunk of change like Ayyuk are slim to none.

Agreed. It's why I'm so bullish on Metcalf. It's a salary cap game. Who else will he throw to?

We all know he has guys he "trusts". The question will be if they can establish that trust.

 

[brewer]

Steelers have a 30 per year WR. The highest paid defense in the league. The likely hood of them aquiring a 2nd WR who commands a nice chunk of change like Ayyuk are slim to none.

Agreed. It's why I'm so bullish on Metcalf. It's a salary cap game. Who else will he throw to?

We all know he has guys he "trusts". The question will be if they can establish that trust.

It's not exactly what Aaron usually does, but Freiermuth has the talent to contribute more than he has in the past.

 

[menobrown]

Steelers have a 30 per year WR. The highest paid defense in the league. The likely hood of them aquiring a 2nd WR who commands a nice chunk of change like Ayyuk are slim to none.

Agreed. It's why I'm so bullish on Metcalf. It's a salary cap game. Who else will he throw to?

We all know he has guys he "trusts". The question will be if they can establish that trust.

I pretty much agree but there is a caveat in that the cheap cost that Rodgers likely will come in at allows them to operate essentially like we see teams do with QB's on rookie contracts. They could swing Aiyuk if that's were they wanted to use those resources but it's hard for me see it making sense. I think they'd rather use those QB "savings" like they did last off-season on the Patrick Queen contract.

With Aiyuk you also have the issue of his health combined with the Rodgers "trust" factor. What I mean by that is Aiyuk likely won't be doing anything in training camp so you'd have a situation where he's likely gettting activated around mid-season to play with a QB he has no experience or hardly any practice reps with who loves throwing to what he knows. That hardly seems like a "win now" type of formula and that's where I think this teams mindset is, even if people scoff at it.

One thing I believe to be true the report last week the Steelers are hunting for pass catchers and armed with those 12 draft picks they will trade for someone. But in terms of it being one of Rodgers old cronies he trusts? That may not be possible. Really as far as I can come up you got two candidates. Doubs who he only played one season with years ago so that hardly seems like an overly solid trust situation and Lazard. And if they go Lazard I don't think the search would stop for pass catchers.

 

[sm8680]

Pat is a very good receiving TE. The knock on him is his blocking. He really hasn't improved his blocking over the years. Unless I'm wrong

 

[5-ish Finkle]

And if they go Lazard I don't think the search would stop for pass catchers.

It shouldn't. He really is a limited player, familiarity with the QB aside.

Was anything reported at all about Davis's visit yesterday? I assume not much, with the Rodgers announcement. I was tied up most of the day and didn't see/hear a thing, even about A-A-ron, until pretty late. Clearly, he wasn't signed or that would have been "news", but just wonder if any of the beat guys have thrown out any vibes/whatnot. Wondering if his health is borked more than is widely reported?

 

[menobrown]

And if they go Lazard I don't think the search would stop for pass catchers.

It shouldn't. He really is a limited player, familiarity with the QB aside.

Was anything reported at all about Davis's visit yesterday? I assume not much, with the Rodgers announcement. I was tied up most of the day and didn't see/hear a thing, even about A-A-ron, until pretty late. Clearly, he wasn't signed or that would have been "news", but just wonder if any of the beat guys have thrown out any vibes/whatnot. Wondering if his health is borked more than is widely reported?

Agree on Lazaard and he's actually very similar to Gabe Davis. A little inferior but with Rodgers chemistry.

But no I heard nothing on Gabe Davis. I think Kaboly tweeted out nothing was imminent but that could change. That's kind of covering your bases but have not heard anyone reporting it's close so sounds just like a visit right now.

 

[sm8680]

Steelers 2026 potential week 1 starter
1. Rookie QB due to high draft pick.
2. Will Howard
3. Matthew Stafford
4. Anthony Richardson
5. Bryce Hall
6. Dak
7. Tua
8. Derek Carr comes out of retirement
9. Geno Smith
10. A team that sinks so hard that the starting QB takes the brunt of the blame.
a. Trevor Lawrence
b. Kyler Murray

Ok now keep in mind. I'm not saying that Mason Rudolph will look better than Aaron Rodgers in camp. But that MT is like a race horse with blinkers he only looks one way and there's no way Mason will be starting even if he outperforms Aaron. Which again I don't see happening.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

With the inquires on Pitts and Jonnu, seems like Smith is ready to run all 2TE sets and relegate Washington to the 3rd TE, and cut Heyward.

 

[Zeppelin]

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

He was in his prime then and on a steep decline now

 

[Idiot Boxer]

The QB draft is pretty deep next year, imo.

 

[JohnnyU]

Aya-WHO-sca?!

Meh. Looking forward to him throwing teammates/staff under the bus 20 minutes before Tomlin's presser on McAfee each week, just to see how Mike reacts, if nothing else.

8-9 wins is more than 7, so I guess he will likely be better than current guys on the roster, if he can remain upright.

Planning the Allen Lazard welcoming parade at the airport as we speak.

Allen Lazard is one of the best blocking WR in the NFL. He’d be on the field constantly and wouldn’t be a tell run vs pass. Perfect fit.

IMO Lazard is barely an NFL WR.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

The QB draft is pretty deep next year, imo.

Certainly deeper than '25.

 

[menobrown]

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

He was in his prime then and on a steep decline now

All I know is it blows your point it's a sign of decline.

 

[Zeppelin]

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

He was in his prime then and on a steep decline now

All I know is it blows your point it's a sign of decline.

It does when you combine it with how bad he looked last year

 

[menobrown]

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

He was in his prime then and on a steep decline now

All I know is it blows your point it's a sign of decline.

It does when you combine it with how bad he looked last year

If you say so but that all reeks of playing with stats and a creating a narrative to fit your version of the truth.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

He is a clear improvement IMO over what we had last season. My main concern is lack of mobility though.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

He is a clear improvement IMO over what we had last season. My main concern is lack of mobility though.

I disagree that it's clear.

This move feels like a push to me. Very, very likely going to wind up a similar result as '24. I don't view him as a 2-3 win replacement over a 10 win team from a year ago.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

He is a clear improvement IMO over what we had last season. My main concern is lack of mobility though.

I disagree that it's clear.

This move feels like a push to me. Very, very likely going to wind up a similar result as '24. I don't view him as a 2-3 win replacement over a 10 win team from a year ago.

I am with Leeroy. 100% a big upgrade. Having a QB who can work the middle often field and gets the ball out of his hands quickly will change the offense

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

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[Zeppelin]

In terms of it being a sign of what's to come in 2015 he had a worse completion percentage then he had last year and the same YPA and won two MVP awards after that season.

He was in his prime then and on a steep decline now

All I know is it blows your point it's a sign of decline.

It does when you combine it with how bad he looked last year

If you say so but that all reeks of playing with stats and a creating a narrative to fit your version of the truth.

No, he looked done last year regardless of any stat.

 

[Godsbrother]

My main concern is lack of mobility though.

This is going to be an issue, for sure.

If their two OTs don't pan, he (and the offense) is faguuuucked.

That’s pretty much true of every QB and every team though, isn’t it?

I’m not saying AR is or isn’t washed but two reasonably functioning offensive tackles is a prerequisite for a good offense.

 

[Godsbrother]

He is a clear improvement IMO over what we had last season. My main concern is lack of mobility though.

I disagree that it's clear.

This move feels like a push to me. Very, very likely going to wind up a similar result as '24. I don't view him as a 2-3 win replacement over a 10 win team from a year ago.

Even if AR is a push, I think the 2025 Steelers team looks better than the 2024 team, at least on paper.

They will have Fautanu back and I think Kaleb Johnson has a good chance of being an upgrade over Najee.

Metcalf is better than Pickens and any free agent WR they sign only has to be better than Van Jefferson to be an improvement. I am not holding my breath but there is also a chance that Roman Wilson finally gets on the field.

The addition of Darius Slay should improve the secondary and the defensive line should be better with Harmon and Sawyer.

I also think the schedule is kinder than the brutal second half of 2024.

I don’t know whether if any of this results in additional wins but to me the team appears to be bit better than last season.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Maybe a press conference Monday or Tuesday?

Will likely have a verdict on number then. FWIW, Corliss Waitman has #8. I don't know how much that means to him. He's had several different numbers - Was 87 at South Alabama.

I did think it was interesting DK Metcalf moved from 14 to 4 at Pittsburgh. Kenneth Gainwell at 14.

Really important stuff here...

 

[5-ish Finkle]

My main concern is lack of mobility though.

This is going to be an issue, for sure.

If their two OTs don't pan, he (and the offense) is faguuuucked.

That’s pretty much true of every QB and every team though, isn’t it?

I’m not saying AR is or isn’t washed but two reasonably functioning offensive tackles is a prerequisite for a good offense.

An immobile QB is going to need more than "reasonably functional" , IMO.

Any/all attitude, personality, or skill questions aside: He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

The chances this works out aces is way, way, way lower than it working out poorly.

 

[menobrown]

He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

If you define success as only winning a SB or limit this to 41 and older QB's you are right.

If the scope of success is a little larger and you can dip a few years younger and just look at this as older past their prime Qb's I can think of a few whose teams had what many would describe as successful seasons.

 

[sm8680]

My main concern is lack of mobility though.

This is going to be an issue, for sure.

If their two OTs don't pan, he (and the offense) is faguuuucked.

That’s pretty much true of every QB and every team though, isn’t it?

I’m not saying AR is or isn’t washed but two reasonably functioning offensive tackles is a prerequisite for a good offense.

An immobile QB is going to need more than "reasonably functional" , IMO.

Any/all attitude, personality, or skill questions aside: He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

The chances this works out aces is way, way, way lower than it working out poorly.

Key Differences

• Supporting Cast: Brady had a loaded roster, Rodgers has a patchwork offense.
• Team Readiness: Tampa was built to win, Pittsburgh is hoping Rodgers can elevate them.
• Age Factor: Brady was still elite, Rodgers is fighting decline.
• Outcome Projection: Brady won a Super Bowl, Rodgers might get Pittsburgh to the playoffs but not much further. Playoff imposter

 

[5-ish Finkle]

He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

If you define success as only winning a SB or limit this to 41 and older QB's you are right.

If the scope of success is a little larger and you can dip a few years younger and just look at this as older past their prime Qb's I can think of a few whose teams had what many would describe as successful seasons.

Or we could broaden it even more and reduce the age even a few more years and...that is a completely separate reality.

Why wouldnt I limit it to those parameters? A SB should be the goal, and a 41 year old QB is what they've got. Thats the world the Steelers have chosen to live in.

As a fan, I am interested in SBs. They've had plenty of "success" if we are using winning percentage as the primary measuring stick. All thats gotten them is clobbered regularly come Dec/January for a decade.

I'm aging in dog years (much like Ayahuasca Pete, as it were) and dont much care if Mike Tomlin has 30 consecutive non-losing seasons if it comes with a 28 year drought of titles.

I'd prefer more SBs for my favorite team before I diminish into the West. I dont think this variant of Aaron Rodgers is adding a 7th to the trophy case.

 

[sm8680]

DK Metcalf and George Pickens have eerily similar stats, but Metcalf’s $30M per year contract feels steep. His role in Seattle was diminishing, and while he’s not necessarily a worse option than Pickens, the Steelers likely overpaid. That said, Metcalf’s blocking ability makes him a perfect fit for Arthur Smith’s run-heavy offense. If Pittsburgh maximizes that strength, the deal might make more sense.

 

[menobrown]

Or we could broaden it even more and reduce the age even a few more years and...that is a completely separate reality.

Why wouldnt I limit it to those parameters? A SB should be the goal, and a 41 year old QB is what they've got. Thats the world the Steelers have chosen to live in.

Two reasons I'd give to relax those parameterse.

Regarding the age in modern times QB's are aging better. So when 37 year old Joe Montana took the Chiefs to the AFC championship in 1993 and 40 year old Favre won 12 games with the Vikings as a 40 year in 2009 I feel that's more then relative to a 41 year old with today's advancements in taking care of your body.

As for the SB it's always the goal but does not mean falling short means it's not successful, at least not how I see it. I certainly don't view 31 NFL teams each season have unsuccessful seasons. I don't think Brady joining a 9--7 Tampa team made them the favorites or anything. You put the best team together you can and try to reach that goal but we'll agree to disagree it's SB or bust.

 

[Grid71]

DK Metcalf and George Pickens have eerily similar stats, but Metcalf’s $30M per year contract feels steep. His role in Seattle was diminishing, and while he’s not necessarily a worse option than Pickens, the Steelers likely overpaid. That said, Metcalf’s blocking ability makes him a perfect fit for Arthur Smith’s run-heavy offense. If Pittsburgh maximizes that strength, the deal might make more sense.

Nailed it. Blocking ability and willing to do so. Pickens didn't give his all for the rest of the men in that room. Omar chose to give the big contract to DK instead of retaining Pickens. Tried the same with Aiyuk last year but we all know how that fell apart.

 

[Joe Bryant]

As a fan, I am interested in SBs. They've had plenty of "success" if we are using winning percentage as the primary measuring stick. All thats gotten them is clobbered regularly come Dec/January for a decade.

I'm aging in dog years (much like Ayahuasca Pete, as it were) and dont much care if Mike Tomlin has 30 consecutive non-losing seasons if it comes with a 28 year drought of titles.

I'd prefer more SBs for my favorite team before I diminish into the West. I dont think this variant of Aaron Rodgers is adding a 7th to the trophy case.

I can totally see that perspective. It's the age old "would you rather be great and then suffer being bad or would you rather always be good? It's a fair question and I see both sides.

Where I think it gets more nuanced for fans is that idea of how certain you feel about the current QB being able to win a Super Bowl.

Here's PFF's QB Power Rankings. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-2025-nfl-season

Once you get past the top 5-6, the certainty level starts to drop. Once past the top 12, it gets shakier.

Another way of looking at it though is there are quite a few good QBs. I'm not certain Tagovailoa at #18 can't win a Super Bowl. And I won't say Caleb Williams at #24 couldn't do it if he progresses and things fall the right way.

As I said earlier, the one huge (in my opinion) difference between a guy like Rodgers and Tagovailoa or Williams is we know for sure Rodgers was capable of it. At least in the past. Whether he can do it again is of course the big question.

At some point, I think most of the NFL Teams that aren't sitting on an elite QB just have to take their best shot.

The Steelers are currently about middle of the pack for Super Bowl odds. https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/43748901/super-bowl-2026-odds-win-nfl-betting

In a salary cap league, I'm not sure there's a realistic situation where that would change dramatically.

So I totally understand the idea you don't feel Rodgers will bring another Super Bowl. But I think this also gives them likely their best shot.

 

[Godsbrother]

He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

If you define success as only winning a SB or limit this to 41 and older QB's you are right.

If the scope of success is a little larger and you can dip a few years younger and just look at this as older past their prime Qb's I can think of a few whose teams had what many would describe as successful seasons.

Or we could broaden it even more and reduce the age even a few more years and...that is a completely separate reality.

Why wouldnt I limit it to those parameters? A SB should be the goal, and a 41 year old QB is what they've got. Thats the world the Steelers have chosen to live in.

As a fan, I am interested in SBs. They've had plenty of "success" if we are using winning percentage as the primary measuring stick. All thats gotten them is clobbered regularly come Dec/January for a decade.

I'm aging in dog years (much like Ayahuasca Pete, as it were) and dont much care if Mike Tomlin has 30 consecutive non-losing seasons if it comes with a 28 year drought of titles.

I'd prefer more SBs for my favorite team before I diminish into the West. I dont think this variant of Aaron Rodgers is adding a 7th to the trophy case.

We all view the Super Bowl as the ultimate goal but realistically what could the Steelers have done this offseason to get there?

The Steelers will take their shot at a franchise quarterback in next year’s draft. For now, it looks like we are in for an interesting ride.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

We all view the Super Bowl as the ultimate goal but realistically what could the Steelers have done this offseason to get there?

In 2025 they shouldnt be in a position to have to be dreaming on a 41-year-old burnt out on one leg to MAYBE not get embarrassed in a playoff game (and then likely proclaim that as a success) at all. That is my main point. They shouldve done something in 2017, or 2018, or 2020...

This whole series of events makes me, as a fan, feel like they, as a team, think I am pretty ignorant. Passing on Jackson. Passing on Hurts. Drafting Rudolph and claiming they had him first round graded. The Pickett debacle. "We'll chuck Russ and Rodgers at 'em! That'll give 'em the ol' razzle dazxle, by crackie!!" Hell, why didnt THEY deal up for Maholmes? They had similar draft capital as KC. Id happily have him on the team over Watt/Sutton/Edmunds.

Thats just a long winded way to illustrate they've had opportunities to address the issue in meaningful ways since 2017, when it was clear Ben was on hole 16 or 17 of the back nine. Theyve either punted or bonered them up consistently. Not going to give them a pass for it and act like Aaron Rodgets is anything more than a sub-optimal plug in the ever widening hole in that particular dike after 8 years of consistent whiffing.

 

[3C's]

Maybe a press conference Monday or Tuesday?

Will likely have a verdict on number then. FWIW, Corliss Waitman has #8. I don't know how much that means to him. He's had several different numbers - Was 87 at South Alabama.

I did think it was interesting DK Metcalf moved from 14 to 4 at Pittsburgh. Kenneth Gainwell at 14.

Really important stuff here...

Rodgers is listed as #8 on the Steelers roster.

Waitman was an injury replacement and probably won't be with the team much longer if Johnston is healthy (he is). But it doesn't really matter since Waitman is changing back to #3.

 

[Joe Bryant]

He's a 41 year old QB, on a reconstructed pin, coming to a new team. That recipe has been successfully prepared & plated exactly once in 100+ NFL seasons, by the presumptive "GOAT NFL QB."

If you define success as only winning a SB or limit this to 41 and older QB's you are right.

If the scope of success is a little larger and you can dip a few years younger and just look at this as older past their prime Qb's I can think of a few whose teams had what many would describe as successful seasons.

Or we could broaden it even more and reduce the age even a few more years and...that is a completely separate reality.

Why wouldnt I limit it to those parameters? A SB should be the goal, and a 41 year old QB is what they've got. Thats the world the Steelers have chosen to live in.

As a fan, I am interested in SBs. They've had plenty of "success" if we are using winning percentage as the primary measuring stick. All thats gotten them is clobbered regularly come Dec/January for a decade.

I'm aging in dog years (much like Ayahuasca Pete, as it were) and dont much care if Mike Tomlin has 30 consecutive non-losing seasons if it comes with a 28 year drought of titles.

I'd prefer more SBs for my favorite team before I diminish into the West. I dont think this variant of Aaron Rodgers is adding a 7th to the trophy case.

We all view the Super Bowl as the ultimate goal but realistically what could the Steelers have done this offseason to get there?

The Steelers will take their shot at a franchise quarterback in next year’s draft. For now, it looks like we are in for an interesting ride.

Absolutely.

 

[infantsam]

We all view the Super Bowl as the ultimate goal but realistically what could the Steelers have done this offseason to get there?

In 2025 they shouldnt be in a position to have to be dreaming on a 41-year-old burnt out on one leg to MAYBE not get embarrassed in a playoff game (and then likely proclaim that as a success) at all. That is my main point. They shouldve done something in 2017, or 2018, or 2020...

This whole series of events makes me, as a fan, feel like they, as a team, think I am pretty ignorant. Passing on Jackson. Passing on Hurts. Drafting Rudolph and claiming the had him first round graded. The Pickett debacle. "We'll chuck Russ and Rodgers at 'em! That'll give 'em the ol' razzle dazxle, by crackie!!" Hell, why didnt THEY deal up for Maholmes? They had similar draft capital as KC. Id happily have him on the team over Watt/Sutton/Edmunds.

Thats just a long winded way to illustrate they've had opportunities to address the issue in meaningful ways since 2017, when it was clear Ben was on hole 16 or 17 of the back nine. Theyve either punted or bonered them up consistently. Not going to give ghem a pass for it and act like Aaron Rodgets is anything more than a sub-optimal plug in the ever widening hole in that particular dike after 8 years of consistent whiffing.

Got nothing for that other than to put on the Jersey and wait for gameday. Friggin Ben is a giant arrogant a-hole but boy was he good and boy did we eff-up preparing for his departure.

I still can't believe what is actually about to happen. It can always work out - and might - but I almost want to see him go down in camp or something.

Most likely result is he'll be just good enough to not bench and we'll have another 'winning' season..... ugh

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Friggin Ben is a giant arrogant a-hole but boy was he good and boy did we eff-up preparing for his departure.

Absolutely.

Most likely result is he'll be just good enough to not bench and we'll have another 'winning' season..... ugh

Pretty much exactly what I'm anticipating as a "best case scenario."

I'm not rooting for it, cuz I don't actually hate the guy, but I think the more likely outcome is he doesn't make it through the whole year due to his body betraying him.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Friggin Ben is a giant arrogant a-hole but boy was he good and boy did we eff-up preparing for his departure.

Absolutely.

Most likely result is he'll be just good enough to not bench and we'll have another 'winning' season..... ugh

Pretty much exactly what I'm anticipating as a "best case scenario."

I'm not rooting for it, cuz I don't actually hate the guy, but I think the more likely outcome is he doesn't make it through the whole year due to his body betraying him.

Understood. I like Rodgers and I pull for the Steelers so I hope you're wrong. But in what makes the game so interesting, we'll get to see.