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21 unwritten rules of Air Travel (per Thrillist) (1 Viewer)

EYLive said:
Has anyone enrolled in the TSA precheck program? 

I'm looking into this for my wife and me. We'll fly for leisure about 3 times a year, is it worth it to join the precheck program?
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It's the absolute best. I would freak the heck out without it. Well well worth it.

 
EYLive said:
I'm filling out the online application and I need a birth certificate for the appointment. I have no dang idea where mine is... :(
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I only had to supply my passport...not sure if that has changed. 

 
ditka...mike ditka said:
This is one of the dumber things Ive read in this thread, which is amazing.  Are you saying there is a space behind each seat that you shouldn't go into because its the seats in front of you space?  

Also, its nothing like an obese person but given your ridiculous statement I dont think you'd be able to comprehend why so I wont explain.
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Maybe I didn't explain it well enough, or maybe you're the dumb one.  Don't Noonan wrote that he refuses to let people in front of him recline because he can't move his knees out of the way.  My point was that everyone with a reclining seat on an airplane is entitled to recline their seat.

Your jumping to personal insults so quickly is strangely aggressive.  What's your problem, bud?

 
parasaurolophus said:
My wife has a 37 inch inseam. He knees dont hit the seat in front of her unless she scoots forward. So you must be like what 6'7"? That has to be miserable on a plane. I often see those guys just linger in the back. 
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@Don't Noonan is REALLY tall. I would hate to be him on a plane.

 
kutta said:
I guess I don't get the anger over reclining. I fly a LOT. Over 120k miles so far this year. Granted, most of it is in first class, but I've paid my coach dues. I usually try not to recline the entire way in coach, but the seats do recline, and people should be comfortable. It kind of sucks when someone reclines all the way, but is it really that bad? I'm a pretty big guy - 6 foot, 200 - but I just deal with it and watch my movie and chill.
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I guess I don't see the reason to recline.  Even if nobody is sitting behind me I do not recline.  It is more comfortable not to recline for me.  Add in I might possibly be inconveniencing someone behind me and it is a no brainer.

My advice to everyone is to at least look at who is behind you before attempting to recline.  If there is a 6'8" guy behind you it may make sense to avoid reclining.

 
El Floppo said:
looking back at these, this is a good one. tougher for older or short people who cant reach up to the luggage rack area to help balance themselves. but so frustrating to be dozing in your seat and have the person behind you slam you backwards as they use you and your seat as leverage to stand up. eta... and then sit back down.
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I had one of those ####ers behind me on the way back from Barcelona a few days ago  :hot:

 
Don't Noonan said:
I guess I don't see the reason to recline.  Even if nobody is sitting behind me I do not recline.  It is more comfortable not to recline for me.  Add in I might possibly be inconveniencing someone behind me and it is a no brainer.

My advice to everyone is to at least look at who is behind you before attempting to recline.  If there is a 6'8" guy behind you it may make sense to avoid reclining.
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I struggle mightily with the upright seat for an entire flight. I don't need a full recline, but I do need to push it back a bit.

 
EYLive said:
Has anyone enrolled in the TSA precheck program? 

I'm looking into this for my wife and me. We'll fly for leisure about 3 times a year, is it worth it to join the precheck program?
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Yes. Next thing for me is Global Entry.

 
I fly American typically and I usually get main cabin extra...so reclining isn't a concern really.

And I've also found that most of their seats do that shuffle forward in order to recline...limiting only yourself in leg room.

If reclining is such a concern...pay the extra $15-20 and get main cabin extra or get the row behind the exit row seats.  I've found that they don't typically recline at all.

 
kutta said:
Long story. Charged with a felony at 23 but reduced to a misdemeanor. But enough to not allow me to get Global Entry. But, I can still get TSA precheck, so that's good.
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Seems pretty ridiculous you can't get global entry with a misdeamenor. When I was in staffing I saw some pretty stupid misdemeanors that I was surprised even came up. The worst was being in a public park after closing.

and yeah that particular guy was rejected for that position because that company had a 7 year squeaky clean hiring policy.

 
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RokNRole said:
Seems pretty ridiculous you can't get global entry with a misdeamenor. When I was in staffing I saw some pretty stupid misdemeanors that I was surprised even came up. The worst was being in a public park after closing.

and yeah that particular guy was rejected for that position because that company had a 7 year squeaky clean hiring policy.
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I thought the same thing. Especially one that happened over 20 years ago. But whatever. 

 
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I'm taking my 1st flight in over 40 years coming up in December and I have enjoyed reading and learning from this thread. 

 
kupcho1 said:
Back it up champ.  There wouldn't be as many bags to undergo enforcement if airlines weren't charging people to check them.

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Who cares?

Enforce the rules. Weigh and measure everything, every time.

Then air travellers will either 1) pay check in fees up front or 2) bring less stuff

 
Gawain said:
Curious how you guys would handle this for reimbursement. No official travel policy.

Flying NYC to Stockholm. Norwegian, a budget carrier flies out of JFK, most others in the office depart from EWR. Their tickets are more expensive.

Arrive at 11:00 am on a Monday and have to be ready to work the entire day. Ticket upgrade $430. Depart on a Thursday and will be in office on Friday, Ticket upgrade $210.

I asked specifically for guidance and was told "don't do anything stupid, like fly F." Even premium on Norwegian is pretty cheap (as you can see by the costs above). I'm OK eating the cost if I upgrade on a domestic flight, but curious if I should be turning this charge back to company, especially for the Monday flight where I'm going to get right into it.
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1. Book the same flight everyone else does.  No upside to being a hero and flying a budget airline for 8 hours.

2. I think Norwegian doesn't even have F, just economy and premium economy.  You should be fine.  Anyone who specifically said "F" was likely referring to $12k seats with pajamas, etc. - which is pretty rare these days, mostly just coach and business.

 
elbowrm said:
1. Book the same flight everyone else does.  No upside to being a hero and flying a budget airline for 8 hours.

2. I think Norwegian doesn't even have F, just economy and premium economy.  You should be fine.  Anyone who specifically said "F" was likely referring to $12k seats with pajamas, etc. - which is pretty rare these days, mostly just coach and business.
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JFK>EWR for me, EWR>JFK for everyone else (it was a $180 uber ride first/last time I was booked through EWR).

Norwegian premium economy is same/cheaper than flying Delta coach. Think I'll just submit and see what happens. Thx for the advice. Norwegian premium economy seems much better than economy on a Big3 carrier at about the same price. I'm sure there's a catch somewhere.

 
Gawain said:
JFK>EWR for me, EWR>JFK for everyone else (it was a $180 uber ride first/last time I was booked through EWR).

Norwegian premium economy is same/cheaper than flying Delta coach. Think I'll just submit and see what happens. Thx for the advice. Norwegian premium economy seems much better than economy on a Big3 carrier at about the same price. I'm sure there's a catch somewhere.
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Norwegian has had a lot of delays lately (6000+ in July), but not sure about their status for Transatlantic flights. When they just started the delays were many and long, but that's a few years ago

 
EYLive said:
Has anyone enrolled in the TSA precheck program? 

I'm looking into this for my wife and me. We'll fly for leisure about 3 times a year, is it worth it to join the precheck program?
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Best $15/year you'll ever spend.

 
In case this hasn't been mentioned, for anyone that is retired military, your military ID number can be used for TSA Pre-check. You just enter your ID number in the KTN block when you reserve the tickets.

 
El Floppo said:
looking back at these, this is a good one. tougher for older or short people who cant reach up to the luggage rack area to help balance themselves. but so frustrating to be dozing in your seat and have the person behind you slam you backwards as they use you and your seat as leverage to stand up. eta... and then sit back down.
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I was recently on my first flight in the last 3 or 4 years, and this was the thing that drove me nuts the most.  I had the aisle seat and the row behind me must have been drinking right before because the woman directly behind me had to get up for herself or the others at least 12 times during the 4 hour flight, and each and every time she pulled herself up with the back of my seat and then pulled it again to stabilize herself sitting back down.  I probably should have just reclined at some point, but I was afraid she'd grab my head or something then.  Wish she'd try pushing up from the armrests instead of pulling on the seat. 

The guy in the middle seat next to me was a leg spreader.  I agree with #11 and gladly let him take the armrest between us, but I wasn't about to let him have his leg all up in my space.  I keep my legs within my own seat width (I don't consider the aisle my own personal leg space) and was taller than him, so had no problems with pushing him back over. 

Had the reclining guy in front of me on the way back.  I'm 6'1" and it was just on the edge of being too uncomfortable, but not really that big a deal.  The annoying thing was that I was actually trying out a movie on the seat back screen and once the seat was reclined, the screen faced down enough to make watching it uncomfortable for me, enough that I switched to watching something I had saved on my phone.  Wish the airline had some kind of tilt ability for those screens.

 
#10 is the most polarizing. But if the ability for seats to recline ~4" bothers you, then don't fly commercial. Or buy a seat in the front row of coach or first class. Unless you are willing to pay money to the person in front of you to not recline, then don't complain about it.  

 
TwinTurbo said:
#10 is the most polarizing. But if the ability for seats to recline ~4" bothers you, then don't fly commercial. Or buy a seat in the front row of coach or first class. Unless you are willing to pay money to the person in front of you to not recline, then don't complain about it.  
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Yeah to hell with all the people born tall that can't afford to fly more than economy.

Do you think everyone is flying for a vacation? Some people have to fly for family reasons like funerals and many other things. Flying isn't only a choice it's often a necessity.

 
TwinTurbo said:
#10 is the most polarizing. But if the ability for seats to recline ~4" bothers you, then don't fly commercial. Or buy a seat in the front row of coach or first class. Unless you are willing to pay money to the person in front of you to not recline, then don't complain about it.  
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I am 6'7" and I understand what you are saying and will always make sure to get an exit row or bulk head row when flying by myself.  It is much more difficult when I am flying with my family.   My kids are not allowed to sit in exit rows.  I can't sit in an exit row and leave my wife to deal with both kids.  If I am unable to book the bulk head row I really have no option unless I pay 1st class.  4 tickets in 1st class would not be approved by Dentist.

 
Don't Noonan said:
I am 6'7" and I understand what you are saying and will always make sure to get an exit row or bulk head row when flying by myself.  It is much more difficult when I am flying with my family.   My kids are not allowed to sit in exit rows.  I can't sit in an exit row and leave my wife to deal with both kids.  If I am unable to book the bulk head row I really have no option unless I pay 1st class.  4 tickets in 1st class would not be approved by Dentist.
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You're going to have to step up your game and start going first class. C'mon. You can do it!

 
Don't Noonan said:
I am 6'7" and I understand what you are saying and will always make sure to get an exit row or bulk head row when flying by myself.  It is much more difficult when I am flying with my family.   My kids are not allowed to sit in exit rows.  I can't sit in an exit row and leave my wife to deal with both kids.  If I am unable to book the bulk head row I really have no option unless I pay 1st class.  4 tickets in 1st class would not be approved by Dentist.
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An option can be to have someone in your family book the seat in front of you.

Unless they are inconsiderate seat recliners 

 
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Getzlaf15 said:
light on is fine.  Opening the shade during the daytime caused a lot of intense glare in that area of the plane.
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Turkish Airlines flight I had a couple months ago mandated windows open for takeoff/landing and closed the rest of the time.  Sensible policy.  As a bonus IST was a pretty cool place.

 
Sand said:
Turkish Airlines flight I had a couple months ago mandated windows open for takeoff/landing and closed the rest of the time.  Sensible policy.  As a bonus IST was a pretty cool place.
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I thought that was standard everywhere

 
sbonomo said:
I am not trying to be a Richard but, do you think anyone purposely books a middle seat if there is a window or aisle available?  
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No, but if you're not careful on Delta if you put yourself on the preferred cattle class upgrade list you can easily end up with a middle seat. 

 
shuke said:
For many it might be a fear of not getting overhead space.  For me at least, I don't have a good rationale.  I just see people start crowding and I get pissed off at them.  Sometimes I have the urge to do it myself, because #### these people.  I can't explain it.  I'm working on it.  I'm usually near the end of my boarding group.
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The whole point (for me) for business travel is to go straight from my plane to the rental car or to the house.  The fact that they charge for checked bags is irrelevant to me - I just want to get on my way.  Sadly the best way to ensure that is to make sure I'm not at the end of the line.  Also the reason I bring a soft hanging bag instead of a hard sided bag - on small flights I can shove that thing just about anywhere in the overhead space.  They guys that have the hardsided stuff are F'ed.

sbonomo said:
If you only travel three times per year it is a coin flip.   I have had if for years now but i travel frequently for work.  Pro's usually a much shorter line and you don't have to take off jacket or shoes.  It used to be the fast lane but many infrequent travelers are now clogging up the line.  Only Con is the cost and setting up the appointment ($85 or so).  If you do get it please act like you have traveled before and keep the line moving quickly. 
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Easily worth it just to not have to take my shoes off.  Despise that.  If the cost is an issue get a Chase Reserve (or similar) - they cover the $85 and the points are easily worth the $65 you're out with the first year's dues.

 
I caught myself hoping for the plane I was in to crash to shut up a pair of ladies behind me.   Probably didn't think that through too well. 

 
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