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3rd Shark Pool Mock Draft (1 Viewer)
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Probably the biggest "difference between mock and reality" pick here. Love it though, he'd quickly become my 1.04 pick if it happened.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Stevegamer sent me his pick and write via PM too:
Eben Britton, OT Arizona
The Seahawks OL was decimated last year, and future HOF LT Walter Jones is almost finished playing. We get a player that addresses a need for the future, and provides good depth this season. We believe Britton can play LT or RT in the NFL, and we had him rated as the last stud tackle on the board - he is also versatile enough to slide inside.
Eben Britton, OT Arizona
The Seahawks OL was decimated last year, and future HOF LT Walter Jones is almost finished playing. We get a player that addresses a need for the future, and provides good depth this season. We believe Britton can play LT or RT in the NFL, and we had him rated as the last stud tackle on the board - he is also versatile enough to slide inside.
munchkin
Footballguy
1.23 Chris Beannie Wells, RB, The Ohio State University
I don't know that the Patriots would make this pick given the circumstances or if they would be trading it but this seems about where Wells needs to come off the board. I was thinking that Pettigrew would be the pick here given Belichick's penchant for mauling TE's who can catch.
So this pick was made based on value, Maroney's uncertainty (there is age in the legitimate RB depth as well) and the possibility that he would go here but to another team.
I don't know that the Patriots would make this pick given the circumstances or if they would be trading it but this seems about where Wells needs to come off the board. I was thinking that Pettigrew would be the pick here given Belichick's penchant for mauling TE's who can catch.
So this pick was made based on value, Maroney's uncertainty (there is age in the legitimate RB depth as well) and the possibility that he would go here but to another team.
TheDirtyWord
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1:24 - The Atlanta Falcons select Evander "Ziggy" Hood; DT (Missouri)
The Falcons commence their defensive 'replenishment' process by getting a high effort good all-around prospect in Hood. The Falcons depth chart at DT consists of:
Jonathan Babineaux (solid)
Trey Lewis (showed well as a rookie in 2007, but coming off two torn ACL's to same knee)
Kindal Moorehead (journeyman veteran)
...so the need for DT preempts other areas of the defense like LB, CB or S.
The Falcons commence their defensive 'replenishment' process by getting a high effort good all-around prospect in Hood. The Falcons depth chart at DT consists of:
Jonathan Babineaux (solid)
Trey Lewis (showed well as a rookie in 2007, but coming off two torn ACL's to same knee)
Kindal Moorehead (journeyman veteran)
...so the need for DT preempts other areas of the defense like LB, CB or S.
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Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Wow, I thought for sure Seattle was taking Wells here after those trades were made and he was still on the board.BTW, I love the moves you made.
Domination
Footballguy
Clock is off until morning, right?
Buffaloes
Footballguy
yep...off until 9am est tomorrow.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
good job today all.
We got through a lot today. Thanks to everyone who is participating.
stevegamer
Footballguy
People can still pick, I assume.
stevegamer
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1.22 Seattle Seahawks - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
My #1 goal was to secure a future LT possibility, and by doing that, to address deficiencies in depth along the offensive line. I know the Seahawks actual GM thinks the current RT (Sean Locklear) can flip to LT, but Britton gives us a player who can play multiple spots along the line, and grades out as a LT in the NFL.
With the top two tackles leaving the board before our pick at #4, I pursued a strategy to gather extra picks. I had the next 3 tackles somewhat close, with Oher slightly above Britton & Smith, so trading down to 1.08 with Jacksonville and garnering a second to give us extra ammo next year was big, as the QB's will be at least as deep in that draft. The Jets offer for 1.08 to get Sanchez was too good to pass up, and I felt we'd get a good player at 17 - either Britton or perhaps Moreno if he fell, and the Cardinals took Wells - I was very certain they were going RB there, and that none of the intervening teams would take Britton:
Broncos need defenders badly - but the OL is fine.
Lions took a LT prospect #1 overall.
Eagles just got 2 new tackles.
Buccanneers were a mild concern, but I think they are set with Penn & Trueblood for now, and have other more presing neds than OL.
We basically got the last of the guys I think clealrygrade out as a LT in the draft, and picked up extra picks to shore up other areas.
Seattle draft so far:
1.22 Eben Britton, T
2.05
2.20
3.04
3.22
plus an extra 2010 2nd & 4th.
My #1 goal was to secure a future LT possibility, and by doing that, to address deficiencies in depth along the offensive line. I know the Seahawks actual GM thinks the current RT (Sean Locklear) can flip to LT, but Britton gives us a player who can play multiple spots along the line, and grades out as a LT in the NFL.
With the top two tackles leaving the board before our pick at #4, I pursued a strategy to gather extra picks. I had the next 3 tackles somewhat close, with Oher slightly above Britton & Smith, so trading down to 1.08 with Jacksonville and garnering a second to give us extra ammo next year was big, as the QB's will be at least as deep in that draft. The Jets offer for 1.08 to get Sanchez was too good to pass up, and I felt we'd get a good player at 17 - either Britton or perhaps Moreno if he fell, and the Cardinals took Wells - I was very certain they were going RB there, and that none of the intervening teams would take Britton:
Broncos need defenders badly - but the OL is fine.
Lions took a LT prospect #1 overall.
Eagles just got 2 new tackles.
Buccanneers were a mild concern, but I think they are set with Penn & Trueblood for now, and have other more presing neds than OL.
We basically got the last of the guys I think clealrygrade out as a LT in the draft, and picked up extra picks to shore up other areas.
Seattle draft so far:
1.22 Eben Britton, T
2.05
2.20
3.04
3.22
plus an extra 2010 2nd & 4th.
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Wow no, no, and no. If Stafford is there then there WILL be an offer on the table for them to trade down. If they are forced to pick I wouldn't be shocked to see them go Raji. However, since the OT's won't go 1/2 then KC will be drafting an OT.
Andy Dufresne
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I can't disagree with this more. They drafted Albert last year and he's their LT of the present and future. Especially since he didn't cost them all that much being the 20-whatever pick.IMO, of course.
People get the biggest woodies over left tackles.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Yeah, hopefull we can get some in tonight but no big deal either way. I'll check in periodically.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Technically, it's the second bigest woodies over LT's - biggest woodies are still over QB's.I had a few offers for Seattle's 1.04 with Stafford there, took the Jacksonville offer to not drop too far, and got to do the same thing with Sanchez.I can't disagree with this more. They drafted Albert last year and he's their LT of the present and future. Especially since he didn't cost them all that much being the 20-whatever pick.IMO, of course.
People get the biggest woodies over left tackles.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The biggest arguments happen over QBs. I can't remember the last quarterback that everyone liked.Further, like I said in the last draft, I can't remember the last skill position player (except Calvin Johnson) that everyone liked - QB, RB, or WR.Technically, it's the second bigest woodies over LT's - biggest woodies are still over QB's.I had a few offers for Seattle's 1.04 with Stafford there, took the Jacksonville offer to not drop too far, and got to do the same thing with Sanchez.I can't disagree with this more. They drafted Albert last year and he's their LT of the present and future. Especially since he didn't cost them all that much being the 20-whatever pick.IMO, of course.
People get the biggest woodies over left tackles.
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stevegamer
Footballguy
You are right about that. I kind of think the QB's still give the woodies - it's just that differnt teams get woodies for different QB's: it's like preferring the blonde/brunette/redhead cheerleader. They all generate woodies, but each appeals to those who prefer a different type.LT's are like the really cute girl in the mall - still a woody, but less fantasizing.
The only OL on their team who has a future secure beyond 2009 is Alberts. They lost several QB's last year due to poor QB play. The shotgun was as much a symptom of the OL as an indictment of Thigpen under center. Don't know that living in KC makes me a homer but I've been on record for awhile that it will not be Curry.The absolute worst-case for KC is for OT's to go 1/2 and then not be able to find a trade partner.I can't disagree with this more. They drafted Albert last year and he's their LT of the present and future. Especially since he didn't cost them all that much being the 20-whatever pick.IMO, of course.
People get the biggest woodies over left tackles.
Another tidbit from KC is that if Tony G is indeed traded then don't rule out Crabtree or Maclin. I'd call this a long-shot but it's gaining steam. They can use the pick from Tony G on a pass rusher in the 2nd and then OL depth later.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll agree with you more if they move Waters. If that happens, I agree that OT is the much more likely pick.The good news is that they probably can't make a mistake. Be it Curry or one of the two tackles, it's going to be a good pick.The only OL on their team who has a future secure beyond 2009 is Alberts. They lost several QB's last year due to poor QB play. The shotgun was as much a symptom of the OL as an indictment of Thigpen under center. Don't know that living in KC makes me a homer but I've been on record for awhile that it will not be Curry.The absolute worst-case for KC is for OT's to go 1/2 and then not be able to find a trade partner.I can't disagree with this more. They drafted Albert last year and he's their LT of the present and future. Especially since he didn't cost them all that much being the 20-whatever pick.IMO, of course.
People get the biggest woodies over left tackles.
Another tidbit from KC is that if Tony G is indeed traded then don't rule out Crabtree or Maclin. I'd call this a long-shot but it's gaining steam. They can use the pick from Tony G on a pass rusher in the 2nd and then OL depth later.
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Deranged Hermit
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I cannot disagree more. Maclin is clearly BPA here and the Eagles have shown a willingness in the past to go that route. Besides, my other pick was snaked at 1.20.Probably the biggest "difference between mock and reality" pick here. Love it though, he'd quickly become my 1.04 pick if it happened.
jeter23
Footballguy
I think he ment that Maclin would already be gone by the 21st pick. That is how I took it at least.I cannot disagree more. Maclin is clearly BPA here and the Eagles have shown a willingness in the past to go that route. Besides, my other pick was snaked at 1.20.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Got ya. I'm a dumb###.I think he ment that Maclin would already be gone by the 21st pick. That is how I took it at least.I cannot disagree more. Maclin is clearly BPA here and the Eagles have shown a willingness in the past to go that route. Besides, my other pick was snaked at 1.20.
FUBAR
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Got ya. I'm a dumb###.I think he ment that Maclin would already be gone by the 21st pick. That is how I took it at least.I cannot disagree more. Maclin is clearly BPA here and the Eagles have shown a willingness in the past to go that route. Besides, my other pick was snaked at 1.20.Probably the biggest "difference between mock and reality" pick here. Love it though, he'd quickly become my 1.04 pick if it happened.
Considering he's mocked at 1.07 by many and I highly doubt he'll fall out of the top 15 at worst, I think it's a great pick. I almost took him for San Diego, despite not needing a WR or PR/KR.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Just have to chime in and say that it looks like a GREAT mock so far, and would be very close to how I would put a mock together if I were doing another one. Good work all!
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I don't think that this happens.Not within the division - to a team that many still HATE for being the ex-Browns, plus the Giants should be able to put together a better WR / 1st offer.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
So you complain that people aren't on the board early (this weekend) to make their picks (again early) and want to get them booted but then you yourself are late for your pick and expect to make your pick................... INTERESTINGYou were over the time limit and still wanted to make your pickSound alittle hypocrtical but whateverYou should have been waiting at home to make your selection, that is what it sounded atleast like what you expected out of others.Just being a smart#$%, if you'd like to comeback with something feel free. I just didn't like how you handled yourself over the weekend so again, whatever.
Domination
Footballguy
He would have looked really good as a Titan.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Sorry bro but I had to do it. I couldn't justify anyone else and he seems to be rising as we get closer to the draft. He'll be a great pick for someone mid to late 1st.I cannot disagree more. Maclin is clearly BPA here and the Eagles have shown a willingness in the past to go that route. Besides, my other pick was snaked at 1.20.Probably the biggest "difference between mock and reality" pick here. Love it though, he'd quickly become my 1.04 pick if it happened.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Being an Eagles fan, and nowing the conversation that was out in that thread I was pretty sure of DH's list. Maclin makes a ton of sense as BPA for a team that doesn't need a tackle.
I like what the Lions have done - address the lines.
I like what the Lions have done - address the lines.
Wu-banger
Footballguy
This was addressed breifly earlier in the thread.Mostly likely these two teams would make strange bedfellows but for this mock trading Edwards was a priority and the Ravens made the best offer.From the Browns perspective Edwards would not be on the team for more than a year, then he walks as a FA. Getting a 1st rd pick (which turned into E. Brown, a pass rusher they desperatly needed) from any team in the short timeframe we had for trade talks was key.The NYG did make an offer , but it was not nearly as good as the Ravens of #26 and D. Williams.Also , you would be selling yourself, your team, and your fans short if you did not do everything in your power to make your team better, which includes making difficult deals.I feel that the Browns would be very happy to have Crabtree and E. Brown coming out of the draft.
Domination
Footballguy
OUt for a few hours for physical therapy, I sent a pm to buffaloes with my pick (Titans).
Balance
Footballguy
Maybe a bit of a reach, but I like the Monroe/English combo. Usually see English toward the end of the first/early second however.Perhaps Vontae Davis here and hope English falls to 2.01?
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Not going to happen. Eagles were all over English if he was there at 21. DH even mentioned it in his follow up post. He has an inside source supporting his thoughts so I highly doubt English is there @ 2.01 in the real draft.
JAA
Footballguy
I gotta believe that if Britton is still available, we trade down. How on earth would someone not trade up?
Kirby
Footballguy
I think buffaloes would want us to pick for him to get this thing moving. Any suggestions?
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
The Atlanta Falcons & Kansas City Chiefs have made a trade:
Atlanta trades the #55 selection for Tony Gonzalez.
Stinkin' Ref to confirm.
Atlanta trades the #55 selection for Tony Gonzalez.
Stinkin' Ref to confirm.
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confirmed
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Buffaloes
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1.27 Indianapolis selects Robert Ayers, DE Tennessee
Would have rather had Hood or Jerry here but Ayers is nice too. Indy has Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney who are smaller DE who excel as pass rushers. Ayers is a guy who can come in and rotate with the Mathis and Freeney and is too much value to pass on at this point in the draft.
Would have rather had Hood or Jerry here but Ayers is nice too. Indy has Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney who are smaller DE who excel as pass rushers. Ayers is a guy who can come in and rotate with the Mathis and Freeney and is too much value to pass on at this point in the draft.
Balance
Footballguy
Then I'm more than happy here.
jeter23
Footballguy
With the 28th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State Universirty.
This is another guy who has fallen quite a bit the past couple of months and the Bills are very happy to land him at this spot, since they once were considering him with the 11th pick. He becomes the #1 TE and is a very good blocker, which will help with the loss of Peters.
This is another guy who has fallen quite a bit the past couple of months and the Bills are very happy to land him at this spot, since they once were considering him with the 11th pick. He becomes the #1 TE and is a very good blocker, which will help with the loss of Peters.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I wonder if he could also slide inside to DT. Don't the Colts have DT's that are a bit smaller (as far as DT's go) anyway?
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