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______ Passed Away Today, RIP (1 Viewer)

Lesser known…but as a kid id be subject to Days of our lives when sick and and Grandma’s house. Then in college it became a fun thing to watch and laugh at our apartment with our girlfriends. RIP John Black. This guy was born to be a soap opera actor.


There was about a year or two where we all watched it together (college, as well) a few times a week in between bong rips and laughed like hell. It seemed like they didn't take themselves seriously at all, which helped. The first episode I saw had John tied to a tree (I believe someone else was also suffering from Jungle Madness which would cause rage and super strength) and picked up a knife with his foot and flung it into his hand, which let him cut the ropes. I was hooked immediately.
 
I’ll always associate Dikembe with that image of him lying on the floor with the ball after his #8 Nuggets upset the #1 SuperSonics in the 1994 playoffs.

 
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I was at the playoff game in Portland when he suffered his career ending knee injury. He was taken off in a stretcher and the packed crowd at the Rose Garden all stood and cheered for him when we was taken off the court as if he played for the home team and not the hated Rockets. I don't know many athletes that get that sort of treatment from the opposing fans, but it was unlike anything I've ever been a part of. The respect that man earned as a human is a level we should all try and emulate. RIP.
 
It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
 
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It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
When MLB embraced gambling, Rose should have been unbanned IMO.
 
It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
When MLB embraced gambling, Rose should have been unbanned IMO.
That is a perfectly reasonable opinion to have. A lot has changed since 1989. I just bristle when people suggest that this ban happened TO Pete Rose, as if he didn't negotiate it and agree to it - which he did.
 
It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
When MLB embraced gambling, Rose should have been unbanned IMO.
That is a perfectly reasonable opinion to have. A lot has changed since 1989. I just bristle when people suggest that this ban happened TO Pete Rose, as if he didn't negotiate it and agree to it - which he did.
The HOF adopted the rule that it would not admit anyone who was banned from the game AFTER Pete agreed to his ban. I wonder if he would have agreed if the rule was in place in 1989.
 
It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
When MLB embraced gambling, Rose should have been unbanned IMO.
That is a perfectly reasonable opinion to have. A lot has changed since 1989. I just bristle when people suggest that this ban happened TO Pete Rose, as if he didn't negotiate it and agree to it - which he did.
The HOF adopted the rule that it would not admit anyone who was banned from the game AFTER Pete agreed to his ban. I wonder if he would have agreed if the rule was in place in 1989.
That is a great point, but I have never heard Rose claim that he would not have agreed if he knew this rule change might come to pass. I do know that Rose appealed to the HOF in 2017 and the Hall heard his appeal and denied him an exemption. He had multiple hearings and made multiple pleas with MLB and the HOF over the years to have his fate changed. He is no victim. His made his arguments again and again. His actions and decisions were his own and his fate is as such.
 
It's such a shame that all that guy ever wanted was to be in the HOF but was completely shunned by baseball. Yes, he screwed up as a manager but to deny his contributions as a player is Stoopid.
Rose was not shunned by baseball and literally no one has ever denied his contributions as a player. This is simply false and an attempt at revisionist history. Rose willingly agreed to and accepted his lifetime ban from MLB and knew exactly what he was agreeing to at the time. He literally signed the document himself. Its a shame he passed away today but his legacy as a manager and after his ban from baseball are as much his own doing as his accomplishments on the field were.
Right with you. Great player. Also a complete idiot. I have no sympathy over the HoF thing. He made his dumb choices.
 
RIP Charlie Hustle. I grew up a fan of the Reds, I moved to Cincinnati in 1986 and I'll never forget my first game. Pete was coaching and he played 1st base. Davey Concepcion was still playing short stop (even though I was rooting for Barry Larkin to take over), sometimes they would play Tony Perez at first, Buddy Bell and Dave Parker were also on that team. Thanks for all the great memories Pete. . . and my sister forgives you for flipping her off in your Porsche 911 on I-75. :)
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

Another fine Kristofferson performance in an underrated (albeit weird) movie was Alan Rudolph's artsy neo noir Trouble In Mind.
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

I watched it last night too after hearing that he passed away.

It's one of my favorite movies and he was fantastic as Charlie Wade.
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

Another fine Kristofferson performance in an underrated (albeit weird) movie was Alan Rudolph's artsy neo noir Trouble In Mind.

Should have read the entire thread before posting. :bag:

Great minds.....well, yours and a somewhat functional mind over here.
 
What exactly did he gain by signing the ban agreement? (honest question)
All I could find was this (see below). I guess if he did not sign it, he would never have been allowed to even petition to get reinstated...

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Rose signed an agreement with Giamatti declaring him permanently ineligible for baseball but allowing him to petition for reinstatement and avoid a formal declaration that he bet on baseball. Multiple efforts at reinstatement failed.
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

Another fine Kristofferson performance in an underrated (albeit weird) movie was Alan Rudolph's artsy neo noir Trouble In Mind.

Should have read the entire thread before posting. :bag:

Great minds.....well, yours and a somewhat functional mind over here.
And I watched Limbo last night---not quite as meaty of a roll for KK but still quite good. And David Strathairn is great in this one.
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

Another fine Kristofferson performance in an underrated (albeit weird) movie was Alan Rudolph's artsy neo noir Trouble In Mind.

Should have read the entire thread before posting. :bag:

Great minds.....well, yours and a somewhat functional mind over here.
And I watched Limbo last night---not quite as meaty of a roll for KK but still quite good. And David Strathairn is great in this one.

Were you able to stream this and if so, where?
 
One of the GOAT songwriters

RIP
For sure, Kris is one of the GOATs. He hasn't looked well for a while so I'm sad to lose him but happy that he can find peace now.
Always thought he was a solid actor too.
John Sayles was clearly a big fan. He was great in Lone Star and Limbo.

I watched Lone Star last night. Complex story that covers a lot in just over two hours. Kristofferson was great as the villain.

Another fine Kristofferson performance in an underrated (albeit weird) movie was Alan Rudolph's artsy neo noir Trouble In Mind.

Should have read the entire thread before posting. :bag:

Great minds.....well, yours and a somewhat functional mind over here.
And I watched Limbo last night---not quite as meaty of a roll for KK but still quite good. And David Strathairn is great in this one.

Were you able to stream this and if so, where?

It's on Tubi
 
My thoughts on Pete are to this day still very mixed. As a Reds fan growing up, he was considered larger than life. I was obviously a fan and focused a still have a large collection of Pete cards and memorabilia I collected as a kid. I was very pro-HOF for a long time, but started to sour at some point because Pete just couldn't help but continue to say stupid stuff. My mind has changed also from "not betting on his own team means he didn't do anything wrong" to understanding how is planned betting may have led him to make managerial decisions he otherwise wouldn't have.

I can't say I'm a fan of him as a person, but there's not many people I'd rather listen to talking about baseball.
 

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