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______ Passed Away Today, RIP (2 Viewers)

it stinks that hackmans legacy will have this bizzare ending he was one of the best and doesnt deserve to have consipiracy crap associated with his death which it now almost certainly will be what a shame still he was a great seems to have lived a decent life and was one heck of an actor take that to the bank bromigos
I don't think his legacy will be how he passed, SWCer.
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans
The Package was always one of my favorites (that's what she said)

Recently watched The Quick and the Dead - better than I remembered.
 
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I think she died going for her pills. Hence the pills scattered all over.
He was unable to take care of himself and died of starvation or falling or whatever.

There seems to be speculation that he suffered from Alzheimer's or severe dementia.
 
Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

Joined the Marines @ 16 years old...

Dad left him @ 13
 
I think the wife either died going for the pills or od'd because she couldn't bear to live w/o him. They were together for a long time after all.

Also, not to be controversial but although he was in many things and did an excellent job, he was a character actor. Not an all time great actor imo. Bryan Cranston (another character actor imo) could act circles around him.
 
Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
 
Also, not to be controversial but although he was in many things and did an excellent job, he was a character actor. Not an all time great actor imo. Bryan Cranston (another character actor imo) could act circles around him.
Hard disagree on this take. I understand the love for Cranston … he is fantastic. But Hackman was much more than a “character actor” in my opinion.
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
 
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Also, not to be controversial but although he was in many things and did an excellent job, he was a character actor. Not an all time great actor imo. Bryan Cranston (another character actor imo) could act circles around him.
Hard disagree on this take. I understand the love for Cranston … he is fantastic. But Hackman was much more than a “character actor” in my opinion.
Absolutely 100% agree.
 
Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.

"Arakawa's body was found decomposed with bloating on her face and mummification in her hands and feet. Hackman was also found to have the same signs of decomposition as his wife.

 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.

Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
+Adam Driver
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.

Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
+Adam Driver

+ Lee Marvin
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.

Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
+Adam Driver

+ Lee Marvin
and r lee ermey of course take that to the bank bromigos
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.

Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
+Adam Driver

+ Lee Marvin
I figured it was more known that Driver and Marvin were marines. McQueen was the biggest surprise to me.

One that I omitted was Robert Ryan, probably only recognized as the colonel that antagonized Lee Marvin in The Dirty Dozen. He was also nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar for the noir film Crossfire, and appeared in a handful of popular movies over 33 years, including The Longest Day. He just had that 'punchable face' bad guy look.

Also of recent note is Rob Riggle, who seems to be the first marine to have been a cast member on SNL.
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:
 
RIP Mr. Hackman. Definitely up there as one of the all-time greats for me. What's funny is I don't think his name would have come to mind if someone asked me two days ago for my top 3-4 favorite actors (probably just because he hasn't done much acting lately). But, when I stop and think about it, and review the list of movies he's done, he's absolutely in the conversation of being the best, at least in my mind. Right up there with the likes of Pacino, Freeman, Nicholson, DeNiro, Duvall, Hoffman, etc.

That's the great thing about a lot of these topics we discuss, though. Whether it be best QB, favorite TV shows, or best actors, it's all a matter of personal preference to some degree, and nobody can "prove" that you're right or wrong. But it's fun to talk about (and reminisce). I'll definitely make a point to re-watch of few of his films in the next few weeks (seems like a good time to introduce the kids to a couple of them).

Hoosiers sticks out for me, as does the part he played in The Firm. He did so many roles so well. :bow:
 
95 years old, he had a good life
Odd that his 64 year old wife and dog went with him.
Yes sure does seem suspicious unfortunately. Hard to see how it’s anything but CO or foul play.
They say the bodies tested negative for carbon monoxide, but TMK, it doesn’t hang around for a long time. Not sure how they’d test bodies dead for several days, or longer.

Double suicide also crossed my mind, but why would the dog go with them?

ETA I see the dog was in a crate, so probably just overlooked while whatever else was going on, and starved.
 
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I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
 
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
Yes true good point.
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
i just looked at Denzel’s and those are dumb choices imo
 
Interesting seeing where everyone knows different actors from. I saw that Michelle Tractenberg died and I immediately thought of EuroTrips and "that's your sister!". My gay brother-in-law was bummed because he knew here from Buffy.
 
Trying to get to her pills.
but why? Was she on medication for something?
Sounds like the meds found were for each of them. But nothing too wild, just some thyroid stuff, meds for high blood pressure. Seemed like usual stuff. She may have just had a fatal medical event while she happened to be sorting out the medications, maybe putting them into a container. It could just be a coincidence. Then like we said, the shiock and confusion was enough to kill a 95 yer old man. Or perhaps she died naturally. He finds her, panics because how is going to be able to care for himself and so he just takes a whole bunch of all their pills and goes to lay down to pass away. It's all really sad. The poor dog too.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
Yes true good point.
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
i just looked at Denzel’s and those are dumb choices imo

Agreed, and that’s part of the fun of the game. Occasionally it’s the lesser known roles that they were nominated for an award (as is the case I’d imagine mage with Fences).
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
Yes true good point.
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
i just looked at Denzel’s and those are dumb choices imo

Agreed, and that’s part of the fun of the game. Occasionally it’s the lesser known roles that they were nominated for an award (as is the case I’d imagine mage with Fences).
Why Book of Eli? That’s the one that is really perplexing me.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
Yes true good point.
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
i just looked at Denzel’s and those are dumb choices imo

Agreed, and that’s part of the fun of the game. Occasionally it’s the lesser known roles that they were nominated for an award (as is the case I’d imagine mage with Fences).
Why Book of Eli? That’s the one that is really perplexing me.
Probably one of his highest grossers.
 
I wonder how long is takes for a body to start mummifying.
Research has shown that signs of mummification can appear as soon as three days after death, with more advanced dehydration and leathery skin emerging within six days. In total, it can take about 18 days for significant mummification to be evident across the body.

Obviously, we'll know more later on but knowing he was 95 and he had heart problems it could just be as simple as his ticker gave out or the pacemaker stopped working. They could have had an argument or maybe she hit or pushed him and committed suicide because she either felt guilty and/or didn't want to go to prison. Or maybe she found him dead and decided to go out Juliet style. Either way it's extremely sad.

I haven't seen him in some of his more prominent roles but I did think he was a great actor.
Knowing now the dog that died was just left in a crate and probably died from starvation, the likely scenario does seem Hackman died of natural causes and the wife was so distraught she decided to OD on pills because she didn’t want to live without him.
She may have passed first. Trying to get to her pills. He was 95 and not in great shape. He wandered around and eventually fell. Folks with dementia often leave doors open, etc. The dog dies in the crate due to no water/food.
Yes true good point.
My wife and I made up a game where you look up an actor on the IMDB app, and attempt to name the four “known for” movies that appear. What’s so amazing about Hackman’s four (The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven, and The Conversation) isn’t just that he nailed each one, but also that they span 30 years -including two Oscar winners more than 20 years apart.
how in the name of the big kahuna is hoosiers not on that list take that to the bank brohans

That’s part of the fun of the game. Take for instance Tom Hanks. My wife says his name to me and the first two things that pop instantly into my head would be Saving Private Ryan (which I personally feel is one of the greatest things on film ever), and Big (childhood favorite movie of mine).

Big is in his “top 4”, SPR isn’t. After a few seconds I’d say, “oh, Forrest Gump”. She’d reply “that’s his #3 - you still need 1 and 4.” After a few guesses (including the voice of Woody in Toy Story, or any of the Dan Brown books turned movie) I’d guess Castaway - his #1.

It take me a moment to get his #4 - Philadelphia. Even though he won an Oscar for it.

So then when you say Philadelphia, oh yeah - the one with Denzel, what’s his top 4? Kudos to you if you can get all those without looking in under 2 minutes. It’s a game we often play with friends and it can go for hours.
Guessing Glory, Equalizer, Malcom X, Training Day for Denzel?
:kicksrock:

1 of 4, and I’d agree with you that Glory should have been- he won an Oscar for it. And then you’re like, Glory with Morgan Freeman - what are his 4, and down the rabbit hole you go.
i just looked at Denzel’s and those are dumb choices imo

Agreed, and that’s part of the fun of the game. Occasionally it’s the lesser known roles that they were nominated for an award (as is the case I’d imagine mage with Fences).
Why Book of Eli? That’s the one that is really perplexing me.
Probably one of his highest grossers.
I am going to make this my final comment because we are wayyy off but The Book of Eli appears to be 11th for highest grossing Denzel movies so I have no idea what they are using to get those 4 choices. Annnnnyway. RIP Hackman, I might need to put on a Hackman movie I haven't seen this weekend. Runaway Jury and Under Fire are both streaming (Paramount, Prime) so I'll try to get to one of those.
 
2000s R&B singer Angie Stone died in a van crash on her way to a gig.

"Wish I Didn't Miss You" is a Neo-Soul classic.

van flipped over and hit by a semi.. what a way to go :(
 
David Johansen - Funky but chic for over 50 years from the New York Dolls to Buster Poindexter

This is a real bummer. Love the New York Dolls … my buddies and I “performed” as the NYD at our high school air band contest two years in a row, with me taking the role of Johansen. Two of my most cherished possessions are an Elvis T-shirt I got signed by Johnny Thunders when he came to Winnipeg in 1988 or 89, and a picture of me and my buddy on the high school steps dressed as Johansen and Thunders. I looked pretty damn good in my sisters red velvet tights … RIP
 
Interesting seeing where everyone knows different actors from. I saw that Michelle Tractenberg died and I immediately thought of EuroTrips and "that's your sister!". My gay brother-in-law was bummed because he knew here from Buffy.
I remember her first from Six Feet Under.
 
For some reason, this always stuck with me: David Johansen playing guitar in a dive motel room in West Virginia, Last Kind Words, from the documentary Searching for the One-Eyed Jesus, featuring Jim White.

"Some folks are just born to live at the crossroads of meaning as magic swirls around them. DJ seemed to be one such soul. I wish him peace and a fine journey beyond this finite realm that we call our earthly home." - Jim White, 2nd March, 2025
 
Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
Jonathan Winters in the Marines must've been hilarious.
 
Another tid bit I forgot about, Gene Hackman served in the Marine Corps and even though he retired from movies in 2004 he narrated two documentaries in 2016 and 17 because they were Marine Coprs related. Rest easy Marine.

I’ve always loved how any marine, regardless of status, is a marine.

The rest of us slackers are ex-army, retired sailor, used to be a coastie, et al…but USMC will say proudly in the present tense

“I’m a marine.”
There must be something about the marines that translates into acting. I knew about some of these guys but I was surprised at some other notable actors who came from the corps. This list is far from exhaustive but impressive anyway:

Steve McQueen
George C. Scott (didn't guard the tomb but was an honor guard for funerals at Arlington)
Glenn Ford
James Whitmore
Brian Keith
Sterling Hayden
Jonathan Winters
Warren Oates
Scott Glenn
Barry Corbin
Burt Young
Harvey Keitel
Brian Dennehy
Ernie Hudson
Mike Farrell
Jonathan Winters in the Marines must've been hilarious.
Private Mearth getting a code red.
 
it stinks that hackmans legacy will have this bizzare ending he was one of the best and doesnt deserve to have consipiracy crap associated with his death which it now almost certainly will be what a shame still he was a great seems to have lived a decent life and was one heck of an actor take that to the bank bromigos
I don't think his legacy will be how he passed, SWCer.
Especially at 95
 

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