A Forum For Home Leagues? (2 Viewers)

[Golden Gopher]

Someone would have a real hard time trying to convince me that we've had a better film actor than Gene Hackman.

Robert Duvall comes to mind but I think they're both on that Mount Rushmore.

Can't argue with those two,but Dustin Hoffman should get some consideration.

As should the likes of Nicholson, DeNiro, Pacino, Daniel Day-Lewis (honestly, he’s incredible), Hopkins, and Denzel. It really comes down to personal preference at this tier. Point is, we all lost a great one in Gene. RIP.

Reason to have one? One word that you already know is the answer: Community.

Year 27 of a 14 team dynasty league over at the Huddle.
Only 9 managers have left the league in that time - 1 of those passed away.
Do the math on the turnover rate when people interact.

Biggest advantages of the messageboard for a league:
1. Above all else - the ability to search for info / topics.
- Using MFL as a reference: crappy messageboard does not carry over year to year - you have to go back each year and manually click on links to hope you have the right topic you are looking for. And you obviously can't quote quickly. Was that 14 years ago or 18? Hmmm
- MFL - you have to use current year or go back and change the year in the URL to find the messageboard (not a public link after a bit) - and that's if the league ID didn't change. If it did, more work.

2. League Commish is Moderator of the league forum. Lock it down (password protect), merge topics, pin, close, whatever.

I emphasize 27 years of dynasty info. Might want a FUNCTIONAL messageboard for:
- Formatting of topics and info is legible and looks decent. MFL replies are just terrible (as an example - hope you like run-on paragraphs)
- League rule discussions and voting threads
- Trade bait topic with actual details
- trade topics so we can discuss if we choose to
- General league BS/off-topic discussions
- I do an annual Mock Draft and we have banter
- I do an annual Pre-season rankings and we have banter
- Got a topic nearly 20 years old showing if we are a drafter, trader, or waiver-wire worker - updated before/after the each season. Pretty cool to see the changes over time. Keeps one in check if they think their team is even remotely the same 5 years later - sorry no 'for the next 10 years' in reality. LOL
- We do a draft pick/slot discussion topic.
- finances/dues/owes
- Polls with more room for verbiage.
- Week # topics to discuss, pull in historical info, who's clinched/eliminated as the play-offs approach. Tie-breakers defined (who beat who, total points, potential points watch for top draft picks)
- We have regular head2head, but we also do a weekly elimination for bonus coin. Who gets eliminated / still in it.
- I have another side competition where I'll pay their next years dues if they can pick a different weekly NFL loser all season long (can miss once).
- Does everyone participate in topics? Nope, but they have the option to.
- Get this... some of us have actually met each other in real life. Not gonna happen in most leagues of strangers.
Have fun with it.

Makes no sense to have a messageboard forum:
Vast majority are in internet only leagues with random strangers that do NOT want to interact. I understand, I'm in some of those leagues too.
Some like higher turnover rates of participants since there's less personal attachment.
Have 20 leagues and only care about transactions and line-ups? Not for you.

But those of us that used to be 'the late night crew' spending hours post-game chatting about football and life - we are a dying breed.
{clink the cold frosty one} Cheers!

Great post, and this pretty much sums it up for me. I've been involved in FF over at the Huddle to some extent for the past 25-ish years, and it saddens me that the league forums might be on their way to becoming extinct. I've participated in more leagues than I can likely count over there, won contests (and lost many more), commished or co-commished more than a dozen leagues at one time or another, and currently do so for four dynasty leagues that have their own forum there. We're looking for a landing spot, but it's more than that. We have a small community of FF'ers who are a dying breed. The type described in the post above. Many of us have met many others in the group in person. We've lost members who have passed. Some have attended each other's weddings, others each others funerals. And, some of us (like myself) have actually been around these parts (FBG) for years as well. I actually started my own personal shift of coming to FBG more than the Huddle for FF info and discussion several years ago, mainly because I felt that the IDP content at that time was second to none. I still feel that way, but I've also recognized that the Huddle and FBG have/had more things in common than not. They're both communities, although one is quite a bit bigger than the other. And, a lot of what we are talking about (building relationships, healthy discussion, etc.) happens here just like it does/did there.

I'm not sure what the ask is, exactly, or if it would be too much. Throwing it into the Asst Coach sub-forum wouldn't likely solve our issue, I'm afraid. But I could be wrong. I THINK we're looking more for a set of sub-forums where each one would be dedicated to a specific league. Not talking about hundreds of leagues or anything, but a couple dozen or so (maybe?). But, again, maybe that's asking too much. Bottom line... We're essentially looking for a home so that we don't have to rely 100% on MFL message boards for things that we discuss and track from year to year.

Not sure if that helps. But thanks to @Joe Bryant and everyone else for allowing us to even have this discussion.

 

[Golden Gopher]

If the intent is for a home league, a group of 12 people essentially, to trash talk (respectfully) and talk about the league in general, that's a great idea but it absolutely has to be its own forum.

If there are individual threads in the Shark Pool for these, it will quickly overwhelm other discussion.

If all leagues are kept in one master thread, you will also lose a lot of discussion amongst the dozens of leagues.

Yes, if we were to do this, it would for sure be a separate forum from the Shark Pool.

Absolutely. We're not looking to clog up or cause any interference to existing forums here. We're not looking to move into your living room, kitchen, etc. All we're asking is if there's space in the attic/basement/garage to store a few boxes that happen to be very sentimental to us. And, we'll keep the riffraff (no pun intended) out. No Cousin Eddie's parking their RV in the driveway, etc.

 

[tjford]

Hi! This was (at least in part) me. Several of us at The Huddle are concerned that we may become homeless now that DMD is retiring, and we are asking Joe and the gang for our own cardboard box to live in

Welcome to FBG @Caveman_Nick Hate to hear that The Huddle is at risk.

@Joe Bryant My unsolicited two cents is that you contact the Huddle ownership and see what their intentions are. If the Huddle is going to go dark then it would seem like it might be possible to import their messageboard/league communication setup to a subforum here. Obviously their would be a huge need if they close shop and a big potential customer base. If the Huddle is planning on rolling on then there probably wouldn't be a big need outside of the FBG home leagues. Overall my point is to determine the extent of the problem before defining the solution.

Thanks . I’ve been lurking around these boards a long time, actually. Infrequent poster, but regular content reader. Love me some ZWK.

Same for me, had an account here since 2007. More a lurker than anything but always respected the overall football savvy of the masses here so I find myself gravitating to certain threads to get some opinions on certain players and situations. I'm trying to integrate myself slowly into the community lately as I can see the writing on the wall.

The Huddle always held the people that I enjoy playing the game of fantasy football with. Lots of history as previously mentioned. But if there were a way to pull some of that over while staying out of the way of everyone else? Ideal scenario for me.

 

[joey]

Now that I understand the request (sorry for my confusion earlier) I think this idea is a slam dunk to set up a special forum for ”private leagues” (avoiding the “Home Leagues” term since that confused me with FBG specifically-named offering of “Home Leagues” in conjunction with Sleeper last year).

I turn the question back to Joe: how many “yes, please” replies do you need in this thread to spend the effort to set up another forum for these users? 5? 50? Not sure what the ROI calculation is for you and FBG to make this a reality for a group of posters that have already replied here and stated their cases very nicely.

You have my vote

 

[Riffraff]

Reason to have one? One word that you already know is the answer: Community.

Year 27 of a 14 team dynasty league over at the Huddle.
Only 9 managers have left the league in that time - 1 of those passed away.
Do the math on the turnover rate when people interact.

Biggest advantages of the messageboard for a league:
1. Above all else - the ability to search for info / topics.
- Using MFL as a reference: crappy messageboard does not carry over year to year - you have to go back each year and manually click on links to hope you have the right topic you are looking for. And you obviously can't quote quickly. Was that 14 years ago or 18? Hmmm
- MFL - you have to use current year or go back and change the year in the URL to find the messageboard (not a public link after a bit) - and that's if the league ID didn't change. If it did, more work.

2. League Commish is Moderator of the league forum. Lock it down (password protect), merge topics, pin, close, whatever.

I emphasize 27 years of dynasty info. Might want a FUNCTIONAL messageboard for:
- Formatting of topics and info is legible and looks decent. MFL replies are just terrible (as an example - hope you like run-on paragraphs)
- League rule discussions and voting threads
- Trade bait topic with actual details
- trade topics so we can discuss if we choose to
- General league BS/off-topic discussions
- I do an annual Mock Draft and we have banter
- I do an annual Pre-season rankings and we have banter
- Got a topic nearly 20 years old showing if we are a drafter, trader, or waiver-wire worker - updated before/after the each season. Pretty cool to see the changes over time. Keeps one in check if they think their team is even remotely the same 5 years later - sorry no 'for the next 10 years' in reality. LOL
- We do a draft pick/slot discussion topic.
- finances/dues/owes
- Polls with more room for verbiage.
- Week # topics to discuss, pull in historical info, who's clinched/eliminated as the play-offs approach. Tie-breakers defined (who beat who, total points, potential points watch for top draft picks)
- We have regular head2head, but we also do a weekly elimination for bonus coin. Who gets eliminated / still in it.
- I have another side competition where I'll pay their next years dues if they can pick a different weekly NFL loser all season long (can miss once).
- Does everyone participate in topics? Nope, but they have the option to.
- Get this... some of us have actually met each other in real life. Not gonna happen in most leagues of strangers.
Have fun with it.

Makes no sense to have a messageboard forum:
Vast majority are in internet only leagues with random strangers that do NOT want to interact. I understand, I'm in some of those leagues too.
Some like higher turnover rates of participants since there's less personal attachment.
Have 20 leagues and only care about transactions and line-ups? Not for you.

But those of us that used to be 'the late night crew' spending hours post-game chatting about football and life - we are a dying breed.
{clink the cold frosty one} Cheers!

Thanks. Those are great insights.

If we were to do something, it would have to be within the framework of the forums we currently have here. Not sure what you meant by FUNCTIONAL, but we are constrained by the (not perfect but pretty robust) forum software we currently have.

FBG forums are functional.
---

I was comparing to MFL where they are not good for anything more than a short 1-liner.

Imagine 1990's replies to e-mails where they truncate
> each line and add >
> before each following line
> that it randomly
> makes.

Some peeps will always answer - just use the league software built-in option. MFL's is not good.

 

[nittanylion]

As a long-time both Huddler and FBG, I think it's a great idea to create a space here for Huddlers to migrate to, on the event that the BOTH (Born Of The Huddle) League Forums and Other League Forums are dissolved.


There's such a rich history of many Leagues business being conducted over there, it would really be great to migrate all of that stuff over to a secure place where it can be archived, because it's very important stuff for decades-long dynasty Leagues to have around, to reference, both for precedent, as well as enjoyment.

The Football guys Players Championship Forum has been defunct since the schism from the FFPC...I have no idea if JB or the other Powers That Be plan on engaging in the National High Stakes Contest League space again, but that Forum could just be cleared out (now that that contest no longer exists, I'm not sure there's any content of value taking up space in there), and repurposed for a League Forum Space.

JMHO

 

[BoltNlava]

As a long-time both Huddler and FBG, I think it's a great idea to create a space here for Huddlers to migrate to, on the event that the BOTH (Born Of The Huddle) League Forums and Other League Forums are dissolved.


There's such a rich history of many Leagues business being conducted over there, it would really be great to migrate all of that stuff over to a secure place where it can be archived, because it's very important stuff for decades-long dynasty Leagues to have around, to reference, both for precedent, as well as enjoyment.

The Football guys Players Championship Forum has been defunct since the schism from the FFPC...I have no idea if JB or the other Powers That Be plan on engaging in the National High Stakes Contest League space again, but that Forum could just be cleared out (now that that contest no longer exists, I'm not sure there's any content of value taking up space in there), and repurposed for a League Forum Space.

JMHO

Having a lot of issues over at the huddle forums. Logging in and old invision board not acting nice with updates and what not. I would really welcome a new space to park our dynasty forums.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

Not that it matters but, I believe I much better understand what some folks are asking for. In that regard, with respect to my earlier questions, I also now understand the reasons for the request, which I previously did not. I know I did not clarify before but, I have no qualms whether or not Joe decides to accommodate the Huddle folks.....meaning another sub-forum I most likely will not visit will result in absolutely zero impact on my presence here on the boards. Again, not that it matters.

 

[nirad3]

Oof, David Dorey's last day is today and The Huddle's forums are already down.

 

[Golden Gopher]

Oof, David Dorey's last day is today and The Huddle's forums are already down.

My hope is that it's a coincidence. My fear is that it is not. If the latter is true, and someone simply pulled the plug on the forums now that he's gone, that's brutal. Let's hope not.

 

[tjford]

Oof, David Dorey's last day is today and The Huddle's forums are already down.

My hope is that it's a coincidence. My fear is that it is not. If the latter is true, and someone simply pulled the plug on the forums now that he's gone, that's brutal. Let's hope not.

Hoping I can reload some cached pages if my fears come true. Got a Devy draft starting tomorrow.

 

[nittanylion]

Man, that would be the worst...

I founded/helped run/eventually Commished a Contract Dynasty League there almost 25 years ago, that's still rolling, even after I passed on the Commissionership and walked away 3 years ago...and there were Leagues in there for years before we got rolling (we were a spinoff modled after FDDL and Blue Chips).

That's a lot of history up in smoke...

 

[Golden Gopher]

Man, that would be the worst...

I founded/helped run/eventually Commished a Contract Dynasty League there almost 25 years ago, that's still rolling, even after I passed on the Commissionership and walked away 3 years ago...and there were Leagues in there for years before we got rolling (we were a spinoff modled after FDDL and Blue Chips).

That's a lot of history up in smoke...

League Constitutions/Rules (some of which might not be recorded elsewhere). Leagues currently running RFA periods with time-stamped posts that might now be gone. Not to mention, many leagues record future dues paid there, etc. And that's just all of the logistical stuff that would be lost. All of the memories/stories, etc. is a whole different story.

 

[BoltNlava]

Man, that would be the worst...

I founded/helped run/eventually Commished a Contract Dynasty League there almost 25 years ago, that's still rolling, even after I passed on the Commissionership and walked away 3 years ago...and there were Leagues in there for years before we got rolling (we were a spinoff modled after FDDL and Blue Chips).

That's a lot of history up in smoke...

League Constitutions/Rules (some of which might not be recorded elsewhere). Leagues currently running RFA periods with time-stamped posts that might now be gone. Not to mention, many leagues record future dues paid there, etc. And that's just all of the logistical stuff that would be lost. All of the memories/stories, etc. is a whole different story.

Could Dorey actually do this? I'd think no. You never really know though.

 

[Golden Gopher]

Man, that would be the worst...

I founded/helped run/eventually Commished a Contract Dynasty League there almost 25 years ago, that's still rolling, even after I passed on the Commissionership and walked away 3 years ago...and there were Leagues in there for years before we got rolling (we were a spinoff modled after FDDL and Blue Chips).

That's a lot of history up in smoke...

League Constitutions/Rules (some of which might not be recorded elsewhere). Leagues currently running RFA periods with time-stamped posts that might now be gone. Not to mention, many leagues record future dues paid there, etc. And that's just all of the logistical stuff that would be lost. All of the memories/stories, etc. is a whole different story.

Could Dorey actually do this? I'd think no. You never really know though.

No, I think it's the opposite, actually. Let's hope it's a temporary outage, so we can at least get back in and salvage the stored information. But, if someone did indeed pull the plug on the forums, I think it would be because the forums were David's creation, and now that he's gone, the powers that be have decided there's no reason to keep them around. That community was DMD's baby, so to speak, and in the last few months (when we saw little to no response to any site/login issue requests), he pretty much single-handedly kept it going, taking care of said requests on a case-by-case basis through PM's directly to him. And, he hinted at as much (that the forums collective life might be coming to an end, wasn't sure what would happen when he left, etc.).

I could be wrong (and someone please correct me if I am), but I don't think David himself would cut the cord unless he was forced to an/or had no say in the matter. If anything, he kept it alive much longer than it would have been otherwise.

 

[BoltNlava]

Man, that would be the worst...

I founded/helped run/eventually Commished a Contract Dynasty League there almost 25 years ago, that's still rolling, even after I passed on the Commissionership and walked away 3 years ago...and there were Leagues in there for years before we got rolling (we were a spinoff modled after FDDL and Blue Chips).

That's a lot of history up in smoke...

League Constitutions/Rules (some of which might not be recorded elsewhere). Leagues currently running RFA periods with time-stamped posts that might now be gone. Not to mention, many leagues record future dues paid there, etc. And that's just all of the logistical stuff that would be lost. All of the memories/stories, etc. is a whole different story.

Could Dorey actually do this? I'd think no. You never really know though.

No, I think it's the opposite, actually. Let's hope it's a temporary outage, so we can at least get back in and salvage the stored information. But, if someone did indeed pull the plug on the forums, I think it would be because the forums were David's creation, and now that he's gone, the powers that be have decided there's no reason to keep them around. That community was DMD's baby, so to speak, and in the last few months (when we saw little to no response to any site/login issue requests), he pretty much single-handedly kept it going, taking care of said requests on a case-by-case basis through PM's directly to him. And, he hinted at as much (that the forums collective life might be coming to an end, wasn't sure what would happen when he left, etc.).

I could be wrong (and someone please correct me if I am), but I don't think David himself would cut the cord unless he was forced to an/or had no say in the matter. If anything, he kept it alive much longer than it would have been otherwise.

I think all of this as well. It's just the handoff could have been handled with SOME acknowledgement that years have been invested there. This is a piss poor showing after decades of so much care.

 

[BoltNlava]

Cue Joe! Fire those forums up!

 

[joey]

2 cents: If/when the huddle forums come back up, you need to RUN, not walk, over there and copy everything of long term value over to google docs or something like that.

 

[Dez]

Losing all the history would really suck. Been at the huddle since 2007 and been doing dynasty leagues over there since 2012. I currently commish 5 dynasty leagues at the huddle that have all been around 10+ years. I think this site would be close to what we had over there possibly but losing all the history is what hurts.

Also I sure wish we had a little heads up to have time to get what we needed from the site to transfer over like all our rules and current other stuff we need for this year and to be able to pull anything we needed to move. If we can't get that stuff back it is going to really hurt.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Oof, David Dorey's last day is today and The Huddle's forums are already down.

As you know I’ve been a huddler for a long time. 2004 ? I posted there pretty much every day for a lot of years before the forums went to hell.
I find it hard to believe that David would not have given a heads up to the few still posting there that the board was being shut down. He’s a good egg

 

[FlagDynasty]

Losing all the history would really suck. Been at the huddle since 2007 and been doing dynasty leagues over there since 2012. I currently commish 5 dynasty leagues at the huddle that have all been around 10+ years. I think this site would be close to what we had over there possibly but losing all the history is what hurts.

Also I sure wish we had a little heads up to have time to get what we needed from the site to transfer over like all our rules and current other stuff we need for this year and to be able to pull anything we needed to move. If we can't get that stuff back it is going to really hurt.

I really hope someone from the old site finds a way to at least open a read-only version or backup, we’d all pitch in if it meant getting that history back

 

[skol asylum]

Reason to have one? One word that you already know is the answer: Community.

Year 27 of a 14 team dynasty league over at the Huddle.
Only 9 managers have left the league in that time - 1 of those passed away.
Do the math on the turnover rate when people interact.

Biggest advantages of the messageboard for a league:
1. Above all else - the ability to search for info / topics.
- Using MFL as a reference: crappy messageboard does not carry over year to year - you have to go back each year and manually click on links to hope you have the right topic you are looking for. And you obviously can't quote quickly. Was that 14 years ago or 18? Hmmm
- MFL - you have to use current year or go back and change the year in the URL to find the messageboard (not a public link after a bit) - and that's if the league ID didn't change. If it did, more work.

2. League Commish is Moderator of the league forum. Lock it down (password protect), merge topics, pin, close, whatever.

I emphasize 27 years of dynasty info. Might want a FUNCTIONAL messageboard for:
- Formatting of topics and info is legible and looks decent. MFL replies are just terrible (as an example - hope you like run-on paragraphs)
- League rule discussions and voting threads
- Trade bait topic with actual details
- trade topics so we can discuss if we choose to
- General league BS/off-topic discussions
- I do an annual Mock Draft and we have banter
- I do an annual Pre-season rankings and we have banter
- Got a topic nearly 20 years old showing if we are a drafter, trader, or waiver-wire worker - updated before/after the each season. Pretty cool to see the changes over time. Keeps one in check if they think their team is even remotely the same 5 years later - sorry no 'for the next 10 years' in reality. LOL
- We do a draft pick/slot discussion topic.
- finances/dues/owes
- Polls with more room for verbiage.
- Week # topics to discuss, pull in historical info, who's clinched/eliminated as the play-offs approach. Tie-breakers defined (who beat who, total points, potential points watch for top draft picks)
- We have regular head2head, but we also do a weekly elimination for bonus coin. Who gets eliminated / still in it.
- I have another side competition where I'll pay their next years dues if they can pick a different weekly NFL loser all season long (can miss once).
- Does everyone participate in topics? Nope, but they have the option to.
- Get this... some of us have actually met each other in real life. Not gonna happen in most leagues of strangers.
Have fun with it.

Makes no sense to have a messageboard forum:
Vast majority are in internet only leagues with random strangers that do NOT want to interact. I understand, I'm in some of those leagues too.
Some like higher turnover rates of participants since there's less personal attachment.
Have 20 leagues and only care about transactions and line-ups? Not for you.

But those of us that used to be 'the late night crew' spending hours post-game chatting about football and life - we are a dying breed.
{clink the cold frosty one} Cheers!

I agree with my fellow old timer.

 

[phandango]

I will chime in that I would love it if FBG were able to incorporate individual league forums over here. I'm commissioner of a 20-year-old IDP dynasty league made up of longtime Huddlers, and I just discovered today that the forums were down and might not come back up. FBG became my go-to for fantasy football forums a long time ago, so my only visits to the Huddle forums was for this particular league I run. It's a complicated league that might not survive if we lose 20 years of data.

 

[skol asylum]

I really miss those old days of the BoTH leagues. Makes me want to rekindle my appetite and get into another league or two if there are openings of leagues migrating over. (FKA cap'n grunge for some of the old timers if you didn't know)

 

[tjford]

Still down this morning. Might be RIP for The Huddle forums.

 

[acarey50]

Still down this morning. Might be RIP for The Huddle forums.

It’s possible that this error is being caused because they were actually trying to upgrade the forum to the newer versions of Invision - doing some Google-fu, and this error seems to be mentioned from some other sites as happening during upgrades because it creates incompatibilities with either out of date components or 3rd party add ons.

But, that’s the limit of my technological knowledge, just trying to put the positive what if spin on it that this may well not be the death of the Huddle forums - though can’t say it isn’t.

 

[tjford]

Still down this morning. Might be RIP for The Huddle forums.

It’s possible that this error is being caused because they were actually trying to upgrade the forum to the newer versions of Invision - doing some Google-fu, and this error seems to be mentioned from some other sites as happening during upgrades because it creates incompatibilities with either out of date components or 3rd party add ons.

But, that’s the limit of my technological knowledge, just trying to put the positive what if spin on it that this may well not be the death of the Huddle forums - though can’t say it isn’t.

I'm far from tech-savvy but I was going to try to dig up some of the league charters that are currently in limbo with the Wayback machine if it will work. If it does, I will send some links so others can dig up old data.

Best case, forums come back and all is well.
Worst case, I dump some charters into a google doc and we regroup.

 

[Hankmoody]

I believe our friends at The Huddle did something similar, right?

IMO these forums were the OG best thing in FF - no offense to the current kings here at FBG - and drove a ton of business to that site. I personally know about 20 guys that got memberships because of all the discussion that led to subscriber content and they got a ton of my money along the way.

 

[joey]

Old Big Yellow vs Huddle FIGHT!!

In the school yard at 3pm. No guns or knives.

 

[Hankmoody]

I guess I am wondering why the need for an additional place to, among other things, talk smack to league mates?

The Huddle hosted forums like this for a long time and some there have asked if it's something we might do.

I'm not sure if there's enough interest in us doing it or not. But it's why I asked.

And I would guess there are some folks that would not want their league mates to know about the Forum.

I think the question is, as is always the first as a business manager, what's the cost vs. potential benefit?

Doing this would only drive more eyes to your site. I can't speak definitively to the cost of adding those eyeballs nor the conversion-to-membership ratio, but I'd bet a cup of coffee this has an extremely high ROI.

My hope is that it's a coincidence. My fear is that it is not. If the latter is true, and someone simply pulled the plug on the forums now that he's gone, that's brutal. Let's hope not.

LIkely a coincidence, based on the error it's just a software maintenance issue and one that can likely be solved with a couple of clicks by someone with admin access.

 

[Caveman_Nick]

I guess I am wondering why the need for an additional place to, among other things, talk smack to league mates?

The Huddle hosted forums like this for a long time and some there have asked if it's something we might do.

I'm not sure if there's enough interest in us doing it or not. But it's why I asked.

And I would guess there are some folks that would not want their league mates to know about the Forum.

I think the question is, as is always the first as a business manager, what's the cost vs. potential benefit?

Doing this would only drive more eyes to your site. I can't speak definitively to the cost of adding those eyeballs nor the conversion-to-membership ratio, but I'd bet a cup of coffee this has an extremely high ROI.

My hope is that it's a coincidence. My fear is that it is not. If the latter is true, and someone simply pulled the plug on the forums now that he's gone, that's brutal. Let's hope not.

LIkely a coincidence, based on the error it's just a software maintenance issue and one that can likely be solved with a couple of clicks by someone with admin access.

Not just subscribers, but players with a high degree of acumen. the large format IDP contract cap dynasty leagues are not for the faint of heart. Takes year round dedication, a mix of long and short game strategy, and really good risk management to succeed. Or luck. Luck always works

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I don't see the downside of doing this, so why not?

 

[nirad3]

Still down this morning. Might be RIP for The Huddle forums.

It’s possible that this error is being caused because they were actually trying to upgrade the forum to the newer versions of Invision - doing some Google-fu, and this error seems to be mentioned from some other sites as happening during upgrades because it creates incompatibilities with either out of date components or 3rd party add ons.

But, that’s the limit of my technological knowledge, just trying to put the positive what if spin on it that this may well not be the death of the Huddle forums - though can’t say it isn’t.

Yeah I talked to Dorey yesterday. They are upgrading the very outdated forums. It was supposed to be a seamless transition, but not surprisingly they are having issues with the switchover.

@Joe Bryant - I think having league hosting forums here would still be a great thing (it would certainly increase foot traffic!).

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the individual league forums, can all the forum members see the discussion there?

Trying to make each individual league forum private to a restricted list of accounts would be a challenge.

 

[nittanylion]

Old Big Yellow vs Huddle FIGHT!!

In the school yard at 3pm. No guns or knives.

Bricks and bats?

 

[Hankmoody]

For the individual league forums, can all the forum members see the discussion there?

Trying to make each individual league forum private to a restricted list of accounts would be a challenge.

Yes no real reason not to and we're not about to look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[Caveman_Nick]

For the individual league forums, can all the forum members see the discussion there?

Trying to make each individual league forum private to a restricted list of accounts would be a challenge.

Some leagues are/were restricted for access via password to keep non-league members from coming in and making commentary, but honestly I think this is completely unnecessary. It’s a very interesting resource to be able to read these forums, see how people assess value, strategies for handling bid dollars, and the like.

 

[Golden Gopher]

Agreed. No reason to make them private. Honestly, the only downside I see (and this is me being totally selfish) is that some of my competitors/leaguemates would find out about this place. That is, the ones that aren't already here.

 

[ChiefD]

Oof, David Dorey's last day is today and The Huddle's forums are already down.

Carl said if he's out, I'm out.

 

[ChiefD]

I really miss those old days of the BoTH leagues. Makes me want to rekindle my appetite and get into another league or two if there are openings of leagues migrating over. (FKA cap'n grunge for some of the old timers if you didn't know)

Agree. I wouldn't mind starting up again. Been a few years other than 32 Homers that I've played.

I nominate you as commish and to set it all up. Simple redraft with a live online draft somewhere so we can all talk smack.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Caveman_Nick]

Agreed. No reason to make them private. Honestly, the only downside I see (and this is me being totally selfish) is that some of my competitors/leaguemates would find out about this place. That is, the ones that aren't already here.

I mean…if you are hard core FF and don’t know about FBG you are hard core because of the rock you live under

 

[Golden Gopher]

Agreed. No reason to make them private. Honestly, the only downside I see (and this is me being totally selfish) is that some of my competitors/leaguemates would find out about this place. That is, the ones that aren't already here.

I mean…if you are hard core FF and don’t know about FBG you are hard core because of the rock you live under

Agreed. I said that mostly in jest. I do think some spend more time here than others, certainly. And there are probably a couple who aren't familiar/aware at all. Of course, those are probably the least "hard core" of the group.

 

[tjford]

Echoing the sentiment of beggars can't be choosers regarding openness of subforums. FWIW, none of my leagues had a password as we never saw the point of it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the individual league forums, can all the forum members see the discussion there?

Trying to make each individual league forum private to a restricted list of accounts would be a challenge.

Some leagues are/were restricted for access via password to keep non-league members from coming in and making commentary, but honestly I think this is completely unnecessary. It’s a very interesting resource to be able to read these forums, see how people assess value, strategies for handling bid dollars, and the like.

Thanks. Not restricting the league forums would make things tons easier.

 

[Hankmoody]

Thanks. Not restricting the league forums would make things tons easier.

The one small ask is if this board allows for assigning moderator powers. There's a system in place of editing/locking/moving threads during RFA and other key times. At Huddle this is done on a per-league/forum (I am admin in like 6 forums) basis but most of us probably wouldn't care if this were all just one big "Huddle mod" group, most of us know and trust everyone well enough. Understood if these boards don't support that or if it's a ton to track. These duties rarely change so it wouldn't be a big ongoing thing.

 

[Irish3]

I truly believe that the Huddle Forums are being updated and that the cart is being put before the horse here. Now, could the boards come back online and everything be starting from scratch? Maybe, we'll see. They could also come back online and everything be there.

However, with DMD being gone, folks may be looking to move their league business elsewhere just for that one reason.

RiffRaff addressed the reasons for wanting/ needing individual forums for individual leagues already, beautifully. They do serve a great purpose and individual league business should not be included in other main board action, getting lost in the shuffle. Also the forums don't need to be private or password protected.

Guess we'll see if the Huddle Boards come back online soon...

 

[Dez]

I really miss those old days of the BoTH leagues. Makes me want to rekindle my appetite and get into another league or two if there are openings of leagues migrating over. (FKA cap'n grunge for some of the old timers if you didn't know)

Well I have openings in 2 different leagues if you are really interested let me know.

I sent a twitter message to DMD and he said they tried to do an upgrade and it crashed and they are now in the process of trying to recover it.

Stay tuned.

 

[Riffraff]

The main reason for the password protection was to keep the riffraff out.

No need for that, right?

Benefits though (typing out loud):
No random spammers or outside the league postings
No bots (which make up more internet traffic than we hope to believe) = more privacy to talk about our lives and you know, not part of the internet collective / stolen intellectual thought. /sarcastic link

 

[BassNBrew]

Agreed. No reason to make them private. Honestly, the only downside I see (and this is me being totally selfish) is that some of my competitors/leaguemates would find out about this place. That is, the ones that aren't already here.

I mean…if you are hard core FF and don’t know about FBG you are hard core because of the rock you live under

Interboard Challenge proves all the smart lucky FF players hang out here

 

[skol asylum]

Agreed. No reason to make them private. Honestly, the only downside I see (and this is me being totally selfish) is that some of my competitors/leaguemates would find out about this place. That is, the ones that aren't already here.

I mean…if you are hard core FF and don’t know about FBG you are hard core because of the rock you live under

Interboard Challenge proves all the smart lucky FF players hang out here

Are we talking the one coordinated through the old ffwarroom site years ago?