Aaron Rodgers = Bust? (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

 

[wannabee]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

 

[Ozymandias]

Nobody has addressed the fact that to trade away a QB that cost you a lot in upfront money has huge cap implications. I would very much doubt that the Packers were trying to trade Rogers.

All teams eat a bunch of money every year and this is a somewhat commonplace grrr sorta thing team owners(payroll) have to accept. You can look at any teams cap figures and see that. Not something they want to do but yet feel it's necessary.Last article I saw was how much the Titans are/will/may "eat" if McNair doesn't start for them. Do they have to? No they could start him, but how many articles have you seen about him playing elsewhere or being cut etc.?

You post here alot Ozy, this can't be news to you

Of course it isn't news to me. But they gave him guaranteed money, and they'd have to walk away from it, and trade one unproven quarterback for another unproven quarterback. McNair is a proven commodity, but is on the downside of his career. May have one or two more good years left.

 

[sho nuff]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time.

Wow, a post that starts with 100% BS statement. Link? You are clueless.

When have you seen me post a BS news story "here"? Been here since ol' yeller, probably started a few thousand news type threads.Well?

What sort of link do you want, I'll get it for you?

You tell me

ETA link provided top of page 3.

When have you posted BS...page 2...

Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

 

[sho nuff]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

Where in any of that does it say they shopped him hard? All you have is that he heard rumors they could take a QB. Wow...he heard rumors leading up to the draft? Shocker.

 

[Bri]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time.

Wow, a post that starts with 100% BS statement. Link? You are clueless.

When have you seen me post a BS news story "here"? Been here since ol' yeller, probably started a few thousand news type threads.Well?

What sort of link do you want, I'll get it for you?

You tell me

ETA link provided top of page 3.

When have you posted BS...page 2...

Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

what's your problem shonuff? You've been baiting me since page 1 in this thread? replying late to points that have been discussed, taking them out of context, and lashing insults.so I ask again, what's your problem?

 

[Bri]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

Where in any of that does it say they shopped him hard? All you have is that he heard rumors they could take a QB. Wow...he heard rumors leading up to the draft? Shocker.

good post, try dough balls on your hook next time

 

[nightshift]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

Here's the point - NONE OF THAT HAPPENED! Rumors that's all.

 

[Bri]

Here's the point - NONE OF THAT HAPPENED! Rumors that's all.

exactly what we were discussing, a rumor

 

[wannabee]

Aaronstory,

I see you're not online so...when you get back+stop by.

Back in December the Pack were considerring sending Rodgers to NFLE. There was a thread here and that was pretty

Here's a quote from the Journal Sentinel:

It’s rare that a first-round draft choice would be sent to the NFL Europe League but the Packers at least will consider sending No. 2 quarterback Aaron Rodgers, particularly if Favre returns.

"That’s a question to be mulled over in the off-season," Bevell said. "There’s pros and cons to doing it both ways. I’m sure he would be better off staying doing our stuff."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=376833

Rumors, you want a credible link to a rumor. Would Rodgers hearing this rumor too make it a credible rumor worth posting?

well then here

Just as he has done for the past six months, Thompson wouldn't rule out taking a quarterback. Even Rodgers, the 24th pick last April, recognizes it's a possibility.

"I've been hearing rumors, and they could definitely take a quarterback with the fifth pick," Rodgers said on NFL Network last week. "I think that would mean my days in Green Bay are numbered. I hope that doesn't happen because I love the city."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=418007

Here's the point - NONE OF THAT HAPPENED! Rumors that's all.

would you like to start another thread on this topic, too?

 

[Neo]

Rodgers Progressing

Not much bust talk in this article.....

 

[Big Score]

During the recent Packer Mini Camps, Gado had this to say about Rodgers;

Aaron Rodgers especially looked good to me. It's been amazing to see him develop. I don't think people really understand how good he can be.

samkongado.com

 

[Aaronstory]

Bri,

To respond-

Your link to the NFLE article is predictable. It's interesting that the quote you highlight comes from a member of the staff who isn't even with the team anymore.

McCarthy has never, to my knowledge, said anything about allocating Rodgers.

As for your second link, I remember reading that as well. But spectulation months before the draft is a bit different than, say, PFT saying there are league sources that say the Saints would have drafted Hawk at #2 if the Texans had drafted Bush.

Something from a source that has a semi-succesful track record of reporting on rumors and inuendo would be much more reliable than the musings of a second year player months before the draft. And as of yet, McGinn, Havel, Christal, none have uncovered even a HINT of talks regarding a scenario where Rodgers would be traded.

So for you to start your post as if the above points are indeed fact, seems a bit disingenuous, to say the least.

 

[Banger]

During the recent Packer Mini Camps, Gado had this to say about Rodgers;

Aaron Rodgers especially looked good to me. It's been amazing to see him develop. I don't think people really understand how good he can be.

samkongado.com

Gado? Well, as long as Gado thinks he looks good I'm good with that (sarcasm).At this time of the year, everyone is in great shape, everyone looks good, everyone has improved, etc. Let's see what happens when the real camp starts.....

 

[Big Score]

During the recent Packer Mini Camps, Gado had this to say about Rodgers;

Aaron Rodgers especially looked good to me. It's been amazing to see him develop. I don't think people really understand how good he can be.

samkongado.com

Gado? Well, as long as Gado thinks he looks good I'm good with that (sarcasm).At this time of the year, everyone is in great shape, everyone looks good, everyone has improved, etc. Let's see what happens when the real camp starts.....

Nobody is saying that Gado is a defenitive judge on QB talent, Banger.However, he is an actual football player and has been for awhile + he's there at the Mini Camps and we're not.

Besides Gado, other teamates noticed good things;

Driver

"He looks good. He's very consistent right now," Packers receiver Donald Driver said. "I think the biggest thing with him is he has to trust us. We trust him, he's just got to get the trust with us. Once he gets to knowing where we're going to be at, just like Brett has that communication with us, then everything will work."

Boerigter

"It's easy to imagine him as a starter," Packers receiver Marc Boerigter said. "He's got a ton of talent and he's clearly a leader out there."

And the Packer's OC, Jagodzinski

"There's a reason he's so confident out there," Jagodzinski said. "He knows all of these plays so well and he knows this offense as well as anyone."

"He's got a great command in the huddle, and that's not something you can teach," Jagodzinski said. "He's clearly comfortable in the role as a leader."

But dismiss all of the above, if you like Banger. That is of course, your perogative.

 

[Bri]

Bri,

To respond-

Your link to the NFLE article is predictable. It's interesting that the quote you highlight comes from a member of the staff who isn't even with the team anymore.

McCarthy has never, to my knowledge, said anything about allocating Rodgers.

As for your second link, I remember reading that as well. But spectulation months before the draft is a bit different than, say, PFT saying there are league sources that say the Saints would have drafted Hawk at #2 if the Texans had drafted Bush.

Something from a source that has a semi-succesful track record of reporting on rumors and inuendo would be much more reliable than the musings of a second year player months before the draft. And as of yet, McGinn, Havel, Christal, none have uncovered even a HINT of talks regarding a scenario where Rodgers would be traded.

So for you to start your post as if the above points are indeed fact, seems a bit disingenuous, to say the least.

This is ridiculous. Thanks for wasting my time

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Bri - With all due respect, the articles you linked to do not even remotely suggest the Packers ever considered sending Rodgers to NFLE. It is a stretch to even call those reports "rumors".Some more weekend mini-camp report tidbits re: Rodgers:

SUNDAY, May 21, 2006, 2:01 p.m.Minicamp Report - Camp 2, Day 3Aaron Rodgers connected with Robert Ferguson on a deep ball in seven-on-seven, but Ferguson deserved much of the credit. He came back for the ball and outjumped cornerback Ahmad Carrroll, making a tough catch. After two camps, it seems that the throwing motion Rodgers learned at California is much less pronounced. Rodgers doesn't look nearly as mechanical as he did a year ago.***SATURDAY, May 20, 2006, 3:16 p.m.Minicamp Report - Camp 2, Day 2Aaron Rodgers hit wide receiver Rod Gardner on a go pattern in the morning seven-on-seven, but Rodgers also overthrew Gardner on another deep ball. Gardner had missed both practices Friday. . . Williams batted down two of Rodgers' passes in the final team drills: One in the morning, one in the afternoon. . . ***FRIDAY, May 19, 2006, 2:36 p.m.Minicamp Report - Camp 2, Day 1One of the questions scouts raised about quarterback Aaron Rodgers going into last year's draft was his ability to thow the deep ball with accuracy. In the first team session Friday morning, on a cool but not particularly windy day on the Clarke Hinkle Practice Field, Rodgers overthrew a wide open Robert Ferguson on a deep post. In seven-on-seven, Rodgers overthrew an open Donald Driver on a deep pass and also threw incomplete to rookie wide receiver Greg Jennings on a deep sideline pattern. Rodgers put the ball over Jennings' outside shoulder and Jennings got his hands on it, but couldn't haul it in. And even if he had, it didn't appear that he could have gotten both feet down in-bounds. In the final team session, Rodgers underthrew a deep ball to rookie wide receiver Ruvell Martin and it was intercepted by safety Marviel Underwood. In the afternoon, Rodgers overthrew Driver on a deep ball in a simple quarterback-receiver drill and showed his frustration by yanking off his helmet and pounding it on the ground twice. He also threw his arms down in disgust after missing free agent wide receiver Chris Francies on a deep ball in a team drill. With Brett Favre skipping the camp, Rodgers worked with the No. 1 offense and took 50% of the snaps. His best throw of the day came in the afternoon on a go pattern to wide receiver Marc Boerigter. Boerigter beat Mike Hawkins down the sideline.

 

[Neo]

Thanks Maximus, that's a great post....hope to hell he can develop that deep ball, sounds like he's having loads of problems with it.

 

[Aaronstory]

Bri,

To respond-

Your link to the NFLE article is predictable. It's interesting that the quote you highlight comes from a member of the staff who isn't even with the team anymore.

McCarthy has never, to my knowledge, said anything about allocating Rodgers.

As for your second link, I remember reading that as well. But spectulation months before the draft is a bit different than, say, PFT saying there are league sources that say the Saints would have drafted Hawk at #2 if the Texans had drafted Bush.

Something from a source that has a semi-succesful track record of reporting on rumors and inuendo would be much more reliable than the musings of a second year player months before the draft. And as of yet, McGinn, Havel, Christal, none have uncovered even a HINT of talks regarding a scenario where Rodgers would be traded.

So for you to start your post as if the above points are indeed fact, seems a bit disingenuous, to say the least.

This is ridiculous. Thanks for wasting my time

(sigh) Likewise...

 

[Aaronstory]

Bri - With all due respect, the articles you linked to do not even remotely suggest the Packers ever considered sending Rodgers to NFLE. It is a stretch to even call those reports "rumors".

Yeah, what he said.

 

[Bri]

Bri - With all due respect, the articles you linked to do not even remotely suggest the Packers ever considered sending Rodgers to NFLE. It is a stretch to even call those reports "rumors".

Hey Cletius,I only threw out one link to the NFLE stuff because(as was said before) we discussed that topic here back in December a bunch. We were discussing a different rumor. Nothing toward you man, I'm just done with this "prove a rumor" stuff. Please forgive me if I don't go into more detail at this point and continue this discussion. I figure you understand

 

[Neo]

Just keeping this post updated with the newest content on Rodgers:

Rodgers Family Night Performance

 

[Kleck.]

I'm still not ready to pin my hopes to Rodgers, but I thought he looked decent Saturday and had a couple of really nice plays. Can't wait for the preseason games to see more...

 

[Big Score]

Can't remember, did we ever get legitimate confirmation that the Pack was strongly considering sending Rodgers to NFLE?

Or was that just based on unfounded rumors / scuttlebutt?

 

[Bri]

Can't remember, did we ever get legitimate confirmation that the Pack was strongly considering sending Rodgers to NFLE?Or was that just based on unfounded rumors / scuttlebutt?

it was the previous staff back in December and IIRC they considerred it but decided against it. While it doesn't matter now(doing better) for some of us it was shocking that he'd even be considerred. And brought up again here in April or May after several threads back in December.This thread is one of a couple Aaron Rogers "not doing well" threads discussed here this offseason. Some at the very same time as this one.Somewhere along the line, he pepped up this spring and has been doing well, much much better than last year. Better staff? More personal involvement watching film, working out etc? Just a natural first to second year improvement? It's hard to pin it down but he seems dramatically improved. This too is another thread here(if not more than one)

 

[mr. furley]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

wow. the Shark Pool, huh?

 

[Donsmith753]

Apparently he isn't.

 

[gianmarco]

Of course not. You see his BMI?

 

[cstu]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

wow. the Shark Pool, huh?

3 years on the bench did him good. Had he been thrown to the wolves as a rookie he may have looked like Gabbert.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

A total and utter disappointment...

 

[meyerj31]

Remember that even after 4 years on the bench, the first year he took over they went 4-12 and he didn't look that impressive.

There's a lot of guys out there with potential to be stars... it's too bad most teams don't wait 3-4 years to properly develop a franchise quarterback. One bad rookie season and he's a "total bust" ... I wish teams had a little more patience. Gabbert might not be that bad if he had proper coaching and development opportunities. I like what they did with Locker ... bring in a veteran QB for a year for him to learn from and then open it up to competition.

 

[squistion]

Of course not. You see his BMI?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Remember that even after 4 years on the bench, the first year he took over they went 4-12 and he didn't look that impressive.

No I don't remember those things.

 

[Kleck]

Remember that even after 4 years on the bench, the first year he took over they went 4-12 and he didn't look that impressive.

4-12 was 2005. In 2008 they were 6-10, ranked 5th for points scored and 8th in yards. Rodgers had 4038 passing, 207 rushing, 32 TDs, 93.8 QBR, 13 INTs, 5 fumbles lost. #2 fantasy QB that year. I thought he looked pretty good for his first year starting.

 

[kwille]

Remember that even after 4 years on the bench, the first year he took over they went 4-12 and he didn't look that impressive.

4-12 was 2005. In 2008 they were 6-10, ranked 5th for points scored and 8th in yards. Rodgers had 4038 passing, 207 rushing, 32 TDs, 93.8 QBR, 13 INTs, 5 fumbles lost. #2 fantasy QB that year. I thought he looked pretty good for his first year starting.

Wow. No kidding. Anyone who actually saw Rodger's first year starting knew he looked very impressive. GB as a team still lacked depth but the QB was not the issue that year.