Adam Schefter reporting that Kevin Jones "Eyeballing" Bucs.. (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

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Free-agent running back Kevin Jones is seriously eyeing the Buccaneers and is considering signing with Tampa. Jones also has drawn interest from New England and Tennessee, but he thinks the situation in Tampa is enticing and the chance exists for him to excel there.

I don't know what to make of it...only muddles things up even more. Why would they want a guy coming off injury when they have Cadillac coming back...guess Caddy is not playing in 2008. The Bucs just confuse me more and more...they needed to upgrade at WR/TE, and while I like them grabbing Ben Troupe, they really have not upgraded the skill positions, Galloway is a year older, and Chase is telling us to grab Garcia why again???

 

[AnonymousBob]

One rb per qb.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

One rb per qb.

 

[Ozymandias]

One rb per qb.

So who do you handcuff? Caddy to Jake Plummer?

 

[moderated]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.

His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

 

[Chase Stuart]

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Free-agent running back Kevin Jones is seriously eyeing the Buccaneers and is considering signing with Tampa. Jones also has drawn interest from New England and Tennessee, but he thinks the situation in Tampa is enticing and the chance exists for him to excel there.

I don't know what to make of it...only muddles things up even more. Why would they want a guy coming off injury when they have Cadillac coming back...guess Caddy is not playing in 2008. The Bucs just confuse me more and more...they needed to upgrade at WR/TE, and while I like them grabbing Ben Troupe, they really have not upgraded the skill positions, Galloway is a year older, and Chase is telling us to grab Garcia why again???

They also added Jeff Faine, Dexter Jackson and Antonio Bryant. Garcia gets five games against the Falcons, Saints and Lions, arguably the three best fantasy Ds for a QB to face. Garcia's a very good start for those games. He's old, but a good QBBC candidate.

 

[moderated]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

I think the odds are high. He is only 25 years old and has already done it. He is a lot better than you think he is. I can see people questioning his injury history, but the questioning of his talent is mind boggling to me.

 

[Boone22]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

I'm starting to believe that moderated is to Kevin Jones as H.K. is to Brandon Jacobs

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

I'm starting to believe that moderated is to Kevin Jones as H.K. is to Brandon Jacobs

 

[moderated]

He is a lot better than you think he is. I can see people questioning his injury history, but the questioning of his talent is mind boggling to me.

And conversely he's a lot worse then you think he is IMO.I've followed KJ for a long time, i wanted to see the glimpses of talent he showed in college to translate to the NFL but unfortunately that never happened. He has talent, but his natural talents didn't translate to what is required for an NFL RB. He had to completely change the way he played. Anyone who watched him in college will agree that the type of RB he was in college is completely different then the one he became in the NFL.And the point about a healthy KJ, that guy doesn't exist anymore, his body has been beat up pretty good and he's had major injuries. The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.I know this sounds like hating, but i actually really liked KJ and my feelings don't have anything to do with being burned because i never had anything invested in him.I know it's hard to look at things without rose colored glasses sometimes but if you look at him realistically he really hasn't done much and in the past few years has been downright awful. The denial people have when they invested a lot in something usually isn't realized until it's too late and they ride the sinking ship to the bottom of the ocean.KJ is over 1/2 sunk, all i'm advising is to get what you can for him before he's all the way at the bottom.I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

 

[bcr8f]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

I think the odds are high. He is only 25 years old and has already done it. He is a lot better than you think he is. I can see people questioning his injury history, but the questioning of his talent is mind boggling to me.

I think he's very good. If he can get to a team with a good offensive line maybe he could stay healthy I was hoping Cleveland.He really lights it up when he's on his game.

 

[moderated]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

Simple question, do you think KJ will ever have 1k+ rushing yards in a season over the rest of his career.So while i know your a supporter, what do you put the odds of that happening at???I'd put it at 3%, and the odds of him ever rushing for 500+ yards at about 15%.

I think the odds are high. He is only 25 years old and has already done it. He is a lot better than you think he is. I can see people questioning his injury history, but the questioning of his talent is mind boggling to me.

I think he's very good. If he can get to a team with a good offensive line maybe he could stay healthy I was hoping Cleveland.He really lights it up when he's on his game.

when is he on his game?Since his rookie year he's broken 100 yards rushing 8% of his games played.

 

[geoff8695]

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

that's some great sig material there

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

Are you sure about that Nostradamus? RBs who have that injury never return to full health?

 

[foxco]

KJ to the bucs would be a good move for him IMO. Graham is not really any better than him and Caddy may be the only RB who's more injured than him.

 

[amnesiac]

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

wow.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Kevin Jones has had 22 games in his career where he touched the ball 20+ times. In 16 of those games he's had at least 100 yards from scrimmage.

Eleven of the twenty-two games were in 2006 or 2007, and he broke 100 yards in ten of those. In fact, he averaged 125 yards/game, averaged 4.5 yards per carry, and put up 12 TDs in those eleven games.

So you can argue (superstitiously) that he's injury prone. You can hold that grudge from Junior High when he took your best girl to the dance. You can prophesize by the stars.

But Jones produced when they put the ball in his hands.

 

[massraider]

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

You're quite handy with the ladies, aren't you?

 

[phthalatemagic]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Accurate analysis like that's why he's a staffer in the first place.

 

[Yitbos69]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

I thought Anthony's' take was spot on!!!

 

[flranger]

This is easy to explain. Had to be announced by KJ's agent.

Most in this area know that Bruce Allen never discusses rumors and it has been brought up on local talk shows many times. He admits that a number of the agents in the industry will throw out that they are interested because they know Allen will not comment to say yes or no.

Nothing to see here...........

 

[phthalatemagic]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Accurate analysis like that's why he's a staffer in the first place.

Are you kidding? I don't think you are. Yikes.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Accurate analysis like that's why he's a staffer in the first place.

Are you kidding? I don't think you are. Yikes.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

 

[Yitbos69]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

 

[moderated]

The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

Are you sure about that Nostradamus? RBs who have that injury never return to full health?

How many RB's can you name that had the double wammy of a Lis Franc + a blown ACL and returned to full health?

 

[moderated]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

He's not saying Tampa isn't interested in KJ for sure, but just because KJ's agent says KJ is interested in Tampa doesn't mean Tampa is that interested in him.

 

[Tecmo]

The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

Are you sure about that Nostradamus? RBs who have that injury never return to full health?

How many RB's can you name that had the double wammy of a Lis Franc + a blown ACL and returned to full health?

He's still very young at 25, you're jumping ship too early by declaring him toast. Watch his workout video and you'll see a guy with some determination to get back. He's working very hard and he's further ahead than anyone thought he would be. Toast in 08, likely. But in no way is his career over.

 

[SSOG]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Some statements are just such blatant hyperbole that there's really not much hard-hitting analysis required beyond a simple rolleyes. I mean, if I posted that Tom Brady was the worst QB in the NFL, then the rolleyes would be a very good response. Basically, it's a way of saying that the claim is so ludicrous that the poster doesn't feel any need to address it, even in passing- it'll fall apart on its own with no help from anyone else.Kevin Jones is the most overrated player in the NFL? That sound you hear is my eyes rolling.

 

[moderated]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Some statements are just such blatant hyperbole that there's really not much hard-hitting analysis required beyond a simple rolleyes. I mean, if I posted that Tom Brady was the worst QB in the NFL, then the rolleyes would be a very good response. Basically, it's a way of saying that the claim is so ludicrous that the poster doesn't feel any need to address it, even in passing- it'll fall apart on its own with no help from anyone else.Kevin Jones is the most overrated player in the NFL? That sound you hear is my eyes rolling.

Do you really think saying KJ is not that talented is the same as Tom Brady being a bad QB?

 

[SSOG]

Jones may be eyeballing the Bucs, but i don't see anywhere that the Bucs are eyeing him.His agent is working over-time trying to drum up interest on the most over-rated player in the NFL.

This is the sort of hard hitting analysis we all expect from staffers

Some statements are just such blatant hyperbole that there's really not much hard-hitting analysis required beyond a simple rolleyes. I mean, if I posted that Tom Brady was the worst QB in the NFL, then the rolleyes would be a very good response. Basically, it's a way of saying that the claim is so ludicrous that the poster doesn't feel any need to address it, even in passing- it'll fall apart on its own with no help from anyone else.Kevin Jones is the most overrated player in the NFL? That sound you hear is my eyes rolling.

Do you really think saying KJ is not that talented is the same as Tom Brady being a bad QB?

You didn't say that KJ isn't that talented, you said that he was the most overrated player in the NFL and that his agent was just trying to drum up interest (with the implication that no interest yet exists). And I didn't say that both claims were EQUALLY ludicrous, I simply said that both claims were ludicrous. They aren't the same, but in terms of usage of the "rolleyes" smiley, both situations were the same.Actually, to be honest, I didn't even say that the claim was ludicrous. I was having a meta-discussion on the meaning of the rolleyes and said that the rolleyes smiley meant that the poster thought the original argument was ludicrous. I have yet to weigh in with anything resembling opinion or substantive argument on the subject.If you really want to know what I think about Kevin Jones... I think he's far more talented than his detractors give him credit for, and a far bigger injury risk than his supporters want to admit. I think there's plenty of interest in him already, I think he's going to be on a roster on opening day, and I think there's actually a very good chance that he finishes the season as a team's leading rusher (provided the injury doesn't hold him back). I don't know if he's overrated or underrated, because I don't really know where he's rated at right now. I do know there's no way in hell that he's the most overrated player in a league that provides us with luminaries such as Ray Lewis, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Alexander, and Chris Chambers.

 

[Chunky Soup]

How many RB's can you name that had the double wammy of a Lis Franc + a blown ACL and returned to full health?

Nos, how many RBs haven't come back from that "double wammy"?And as far as:

And the point about a healthy KJ, that guy doesn't exist anymore, his body has been beat up pretty good and he's had major injuries. The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

This is good speculation here. However, because players have come back from Lis Franc injuries, namely Dunn, Westbrook, and others (even Kevin Jones looked good last year depite coming back from the injury quickly), and countless have come back from ACL tears, I'd say there is no reason he couldn't come back healthy. These are injuries in completely different areas/locations. He's clearly incredibly motivated to do this, depite what you claim he has shown talent in the NFL, has incredible natural raw talent, and is still 25.Don't stick a fork in him yet. Jumping the gun on this guys career may be very costly.

 

[QUEZILLA]

This isn't surprising. The Bucs are interested in everybody. Everybody just isn't interested in signing Bruce Allens low ball contracts.

 

[switz]

The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

Arrogant and incorrect.

I know it's hard to look at things without rose colored glasses sometimes but if you look at him realistically he really hasn't done much and in the past few years has been downright awful. The denial people have when they invested a lot in something usually isn't realized until it's too late and they ride the sinking ship to the bottom of the ocean.

I've never once owned KJ in any of my league, and liked Suggs better than him in the first place. However, your POV is so far off base, it's laughable.

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

More arrogance... and I've never seen a single person on this board, or as a matter of fact anywhere, refer to you that way.

 

[switz]

I do know there's no way in hell that he's the most overrated player in a league that provides us with luminaries such as Ray Lewis, DeAngelo Hall, Shaun Alexander, and Chris Chambers.

... and you forgot to include Roy Williams... either of them

 

[Jason Wood]

1) Let's see it happen first

2) If it does happen, I think it's certainly in line with what we've come to know of Gruden. He can never have enough skill position players to evaluate.

3) I would imagine KJ being brought in would have a lot to do with whether the Bucs actually think Caddy can play this year; so if recent reports of Caddy working out well have any validity to them, I would be surprised if KJ came aboard

4) Let's not forget how important the Bucs depth has been for them. Earnest Graham wasn't exactly considered a viable workhorse until the Bucs had to give him the rock last year, and now look at him with a $10.5mm extension ready to roll

I'm just not a fan of counting on any Bucs RB as long as Gruden is in charge. Graham, at the right ADP, could be an interesting guy to roster but I'm betting he won't fall to me in most drafts.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

that's some great sig material there

 

[Holy Schneikes]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.4th: You're welcome.

 

[sholditch]

He is a lot better than you think he is.

I can see people questioning his injury history, but the questioning of his talent is mind boggling to me.

And conversely he's a lot worse then you think he is IMO.I've followed KJ for a long time, i wanted to see the glimpses of talent he showed in college to translate to the NFL but unfortunately that never happened. He has talent, but his natural talents didn't translate to what is required for an NFL RB. He had to completely change the way he played. Anyone who watched him in college will agree that the type of RB he was in college is completely different then the one he became in the NFL.

And the point about a healthy KJ, that guy doesn't exist anymore, his body has been beat up pretty good and he's had major injuries. The dreaded Lis Franc is far more troubling then the ACL and he'll never return to being completely healthy.

I know this sounds like hating, but i actually really liked KJ and my feelings don't have anything to do with being burned because i never had anything invested in him.

I know it's hard to look at things without rose colored glasses sometimes but if you look at him realistically he really hasn't done much and in the past few years has been downright awful. The denial people have when they invested a lot in something usually isn't realized until it's too late and they ride the sinking ship to the bottom of the ocean.

KJ is over 1/2 sunk, all i'm advising is to get what you can for him before he's all the way at the bottom.



I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

Pleased to meet you. I'm the Rasputin of racquetball.

 

[Yitbos69]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".

3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.

4th: You're welcome.

1st I said is you have no idea what Tampa's interest....you are clearly saying that KJ is more interested in them than they are in him......YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!2nd No Bias was the word I was looking for..... Bias, as in "you are a complete TOOL"

3rd Whatever

4th your welcome.........

 

[Holy Schneikes]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".

3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.

4th: You're welcome.

1st I said is you have no idea what Tampa's interest....you are clearly saying that KJ is more interested in them than they are in him......YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!2nd No Bias was the word I was looking for..... Bias, as in "you are a complete TOOL"

3rd Whatever

4th your welcome.........

OK Bud. Again, you are misreading what I said. I am not clearly saying "KJ is more interested in Tampa than Tampa is in KJ". What I am saying is that the "news" is that KJ is interested in Tampa. Period. There is NO indication on whether or not Tampa is interested in KJ (not for or against, unless you consider not showing up for his workout "against"). That's about as clear as I can make that, if you don't share my opinion on the subject, that's cool, but at least TRY to understand what I am saying (and what I am NOT saying).What is happening is what KJ's camp probably intended. By saying "KJ is interested in Tampa" they are hoping people get that confused with "Tampa is interested in KJ.", which MIGHT generate real or additional interest in him. It is EXTREMELY similar to when he announced that he was interested in the Bears a week or so ago, except that kind of backfired when the Bears replied with, "Sorry Kev, we aren't interested in YOU.". I doubt they are fooling any GMs, so I don't think it's really that effective, but it sure seems to be working on the message board.

This whole off season for KJ has been a little odd. His and his agent's tactics seem more cheesy than professional, with that crazy golf course workout running with some random dude and yelling out the name of his former OC for "motivation", then the follow-up workout that was cancelled and then on again, and then these two news "scoops" about who KJ wants to sign with.

As for bias, you keep using the word any way that makes you happy, but there is no such thing as a "bias opinion" (unless it's an opinion ABOUT bias). IF I had bias against (or for) KJ, I would have a "biased opinion". In any case, it really doesn't apply here to me. The guys who are hanging on to KJ might have some bias TOWARD him, but that's so common and natural it's hardly worth noting (I am biased toward lots of guys I own - it's hard to fight). By the way, I would never have even mentioned the bias thing at all (it's a common mistake) if the tone of your initial post hadn't been so negative.

I'm done. Have a good one.

 

[sholditch]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".

3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.

4th: You're welcome.

1st I said is you have no idea what Tampa's interest....you are clearly saying that KJ is more interested in them than they are in him......YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!2nd No Bias was the word I was looking for..... Bias, as in "you are a complete TOOL"

3rd Whatever

4th your welcome.........

This whole off season for KJ has been a little odd. His and his agent's tactics seem more cheesy than professional, with that crazy golf course workout running with some random dude and yelling out the name of his former OC for "motivation", then the follow-up workout that was cancelled and then on again, and then these two news "scoops" about who KJ wants to sign with.

I agree with this. It's just beginning to look really desperate.

 

[switz]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".

3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.

4th: You're welcome.

1st I said is you have no idea what Tampa's interest....you are clearly saying that KJ is more interested in them than they are in him......YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!

I just have to jump in here... this is ridiculous. HS didn't say anything about the level of Tampa's interest. He didn't claim they had a ton or none. He merely said the report doesn't mean Tampa is interested, as the report didn't say ANYTHING about Tampa being interested or not.He didn't say KJ had more, less, or equal interest as the Bucs may or may not have.

It's ridiculous that you are getting offended by him merely stating what the report stated. Why not take it up with Schefter if it's that important to you.

2nd No Bias was the word I was looking for..... Bias, as in "you are a complete TOOL"

I still don't think you know what 'bias' means, and the definition you provide for it here is not accurate, nor appropriate.

3rd Whatever

4th your welcome.........

If you are purposely using improper grammer, I am at a loss to grasp the design behind your method. If you are not purposely using improper grammar, you should know that HS's example of the conjugation of you and are to form you're is proper. Whether your misuse was intentional or not, it does not make your argument stronger. Instead, it makes your opinion seem even less educated, as spelling and grammar, especially in the written form, are often the only way on a forum such as this that any of the other users can gauge your intellect.This isn't meant to be an attack on you either. From what I've read of your posts on the board, I think you have many fine opinions. I'm not sure why this subject is a sensitive one, or maybe it's that HS has gotten under your skin in regards to other subjects. I just find that the direction your interchange was heading was not one that was going to raise persons' opinions of you.

 

[Jason Wood]

OK, we've had enough fun with the Nostradamus schtick and the back and forth. Let's get back on topic.

 

[Sun Tzu]

I'm known as the Nostradamus of FF for a reason, ignore what i say at your own peril.

Pleased to meet you. I'm the Rasputin of racquetball.

Now that's funny.As for Kevin Jones, I don't know what's going on with him but I can state that Earnest Graham's value has taken a huge hit lately. I ended up drafting Graham in the 9th round of an initial dynasty draft a couple of days ago with all of the talk about KJ heading to Tampa and Graham's lowball contract.

 

[DoubleG]

OK, we've had enough fun with the Nostradamus schtick and the back and forth. Let's get back on topic.

Right. This is all clearly just a ploy to motivate Earnest Graham.

 

[Joe Bryant]

KJ interested in Tampa != Tampa interested in KJ, just like KJ interested in Chicago != Chicago interested in KJ.

The only thing sure here is that KJ's agent is working very hard for his money.

Holy Schneikes=has no idea what Tampa's interest in KJ isBut thanks for your bias opinion

1st: I didn't make any claim about Tampa's interest in KJ. I simply said the two directions of interest aren't the same. A lot of folks here seemed to be reading the statement backwards. The release says Jones is interested in Tampa and it DOES NOT say Tampa is interested in Jones. That doesn't mean Tampa ISN'T interested in Jones, it just doesn't necessarily mean they are.2nd: The word you were looking for is BIASED, as in "has bias".

3rd: I don't have any inherent bias on Kevin Jones. I don't own him, never owned him, and don't own anyone his eventual placement is likely to impact. He didn't sleep with my wife. The only potential bias I could have would be that I DON'T own him and therefore hope he doesn't succeed. But if you stretch bias that far, every poster here has bias against every player they don't own. In short, I don't have any bias for or against Jones. My OPINION is that he vastly overated here, but it's not a bias.

4th: You're welcome.

1st I said is you have no idea what Tampa's interest....you are clearly saying that KJ is more interested in them than they are in him......YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!2nd No Bias was the word I was looking for..... Bias, as in "you are a complete TOOL"

3rd Whatever

4th your welcome.........

Turn it way down. TIA.J