Adrian Peterson, retired (3 Viewers)

[TheFanatic]

I'm not sure how a year away from getting beat up hurts his value. He was at the top of his game & then had a year-long vacation. He's gotta be healthy!

I don't believe there's RB in the league who takes better care of his body. If he avoids another serious injury he should have a few quality years left.

I firmly believe he gets some chemical help as well. I don't care how much of a gym rat he is, there's no way he didn't get some steroid help to come back less than a year after an ACL and nearly set the single season rushing record.

 

[Pots]

Why would Peterson's value be higher in a strong RB draft? IMO the Vikings would be lucky to get any pick with teams knowing the Vikings don't want to pay him $12M this year.

I think you missed my post right above yours.

Writer gets paid to write for Bleacher report yet that writer no longer has value because of being paid to do so?

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

His point is that Bleacher Report is not a very credible place to be looking for 'in depth analysis'.

Gee taking Pot shots while not contributing anything of substance again I see. I even asked you nicely for your opinion last time you did this.

:crickets:

The reason I quoted the article is to save people from the very annoying pop ups there that I also do not care for. However Sigmund Bloom and plenty of credible writers do contribute to BR.

I don't always follow a thread for posts directed at myself, I use them for news and insightful opinions, and am often left disappointed at the latter with some posters. Simply put, I don't think the Vikes get more than a late 2nd at BEST and more than likely will have to settle for a mid-round pick. I also think the chances of AP deciding to stay a Viking is less than 10% so they don't have the luxury to haggle for the ridiculous prices you keep quoting. Then again, they could get ahold of the Eagles who seem to be making a lot of poor decisions...

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I'm not sure how a year away from getting beat up hurts his value. He was at the top of his game & then had a year-long vacation. He's gotta be healthy!

I don't believe there's RB in the league who takes better care of his body. If he avoids another serious injury he should have a few quality years left.

I firmly believe he gets some chemical help as well. I don't care how much of a gym rat he is, there's no way he didn't get some steroid help to come back less than a year after an ACL and nearly set the single season rushing record.

Oh absolutely. I'm actually shocked he has been busted since.

Hypothetically speaking, if you've ever done a cycle in your life, you'd be convinced they're all on steroids.

 

[cstu]

Meeting with Wilfs in NY

Some think it’s a big deal that the Wilfs didn’t send their private plane to go pick up the one-time face of their franchise.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm not sure how a year away from getting beat up hurts his value. He was at the top of his game & then had a year-long vacation. He's gotta be healthy!

I don't believe there's RB in the league who takes better care of his body. If he avoids another serious injury he should have a few quality years left.

I firmly believe he gets some chemical help as well. I don't care how much of a gym rat he is, there's no way he didn't get some steroid help to come back less than a year after an ACL and nearly set the single season rushing record.

Oh absolutely. I'm actually shocked he has been busted since.

Hypothetically speaking, if you've ever done a cycle in your life, you'd be convinced they're all on steroids.

I believe most are. Some more than other...

 

[Steed]

http://tam.scout.com/story/1526448-bucs-are-pursuing-adrian-peterson?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bucs might make an "aggressive" move for him

 

[cstu]

http://tam.scout.com/story/1526448-bucs-are-pursuing-adrian-peterson?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bucs might make an "aggressive" move for him

Wonder if it would involve Doug Martin.

 

[Donnybrook]

http://tam.scout.com/story/1526448-bucs-are-pursuing-adrian-peterson?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bucs might make an "aggressive" move for him

I must be a vindictive fan because I wouldn't mind if Minny sent Peterson to Tampa. Their run blocking was atrocious last season.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

If they invested in the OL in rounds 2 and beyond, Winston/AP/Evans/VJax/ASJ could be the start of something nice in TB. Though Lovie seems like the wrong coach to oversee it.

 

[KellysHeroes]

make it happen Jerry

 

[TheFanatic]

http://tam.scout.com/story/1526448-bucs-are-pursuing-adrian-peterson?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bucs might make an "aggressive" move for him

I must be a vindictive fan because I wouldn't mind if Minny sent Peterson to Tampa. Their run blocking was atrocious last season.

You act as if ADP needs run blocking ;-)

 

[Joe Summer]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

 

[Hov34]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

 

[Biabreakable]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

 

[ldizzle]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

he was quoted as saying the chargers were one of his top spots along with cowboys cards tampa

 

[Bankerguy]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

Cowboys offered around 6.5...not 5.

Yes the Cowboys could clear 30 million with restructuring. It's more a matter of want to.

 

[Biabreakable]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

Cowboys offered around 6.5...not 5.

Yes the Cowboys could clear 30 million with restructuring. It's more a matter of want to.

Okay. I have heard a lot of different numbers being thrown around this week. 6.5 would be closer to what I think Peterson will ask for which will be slightly more than what Murray got.

The other issue is what the Vikings asking price in return for Peterson might be in terms of draft picks or players.

 

[Bankerguy]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

Cowboys offered around 6.5...not 5.Yes the Cowboys could clear 30 million with restructuring. It's more a matter of want to.

Okay. I have heard a lot of different numbers being thrown around this week. 6.5 would be closer to what I think Peterson will ask for which will be slightly more than what Murray got.

The other issue is what the Vikings asking price in return for Peterson might be in terms of draft picks or players.

Not really sure what leverage they have? Mid round seems about right to me at best.

5th rounder say.

 

[Biabreakable]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

Cowboys offered around 6.5...not 5.Yes the Cowboys could clear 30 million with restructuring. It's more a matter of want to.

Okay. I have heard a lot of different numbers being thrown around this week. 6.5 would be closer to what I think Peterson will ask for which will be slightly more than what Murray got.

The other issue is what the Vikings asking price in return for Peterson might be in terms of draft picks or players.

Not really sure what leverage they have? Mid round seems about right to me at best.

5th rounder say.

I seriously doubt that the Vikings will trade Peterson for Peanuts. He is too good a player for them to do that. They will keep him at $15 million in 2015 without suitable compensation in draft picks.

McCoy was traded for Alonso who was a second round pick.

 

[Bankerguy]

No way he doesn't end up in Dallas now.

Can they afford his current contract?

This will definitely be the sticking point.

With Murray signed for $8.4 million/year in Philly now (assuming it does not fall through like Gore and Matthews that is) It seems like the market has been set. Peterson was asking for $8.3 million prior to the deal with Murray being struck. So Peterson is likely going to want a $8.5 million type of deal now.

The Cowboys reportedly only offered Murray $5 million, which is why he walked. I do think the interest from the Cowboys is real, and that interest is mutual. So the $5 million may have been their cut off point where they would rather have Peterson if they were going to pay more than that.

I would think that Spielman and Jerry Jones have likely already discussed this issue at length by now. With some of the other RB contracts falling into place we may actually see something happen with Peterson soon.

Other teams that may still be pursuing Peterson are the Cardinals, Tampa Bay and perhaps some other teams we haven't heard about yet.

Cowboys offered around 6.5...not 5.Yes the Cowboys could clear 30 million with restructuring. It's more a matter of want to.

Okay. I have heard a lot of different numbers being thrown around this week. 6.5 would be closer to what I think Peterson will ask for which will be slightly more than what Murray got.

The other issue is what the Vikings asking price in return for Peterson might be in terms of draft picks or players.

Not really sure what leverage they have? Mid round seems about right to me at best.5th rounder say.

I seriously doubt that the Vikings will trade Peterson for Peanuts. He is too good a player for them to do that. They will keep him at $15 million in 2015 without suitable compensation in draft picks.

McCoy was traded for Alonso who was a second round pick.

...coming off knee surgery. Ngata was dealt for peanuts too.

You are right if Minny wants him to play they can play hard ball. I get the feeling they would like to just move on without a major circus...but...I honestly don't follow the Vikes closely. Jmo

 

[B-Deep]

prettty sure he ends up at the vikes.

no one wants to pay for that contract, vikes don't want to give away an asset

he may want to leave, but i believe there is like 40mil left on his contract, unless he is willing to slim that way down he is not going to leave

 

[Biabreakable]

Well the reason I think Peterson will want a better contract than what Murray received is because he believes he is the best RB in the league. I would tend to agree with him about that as would a lot of people.

If not for what Peterson did to his kid and the subsequent strain on his relationship with the Vikings front office I do not think they would even be considering trading him.

During the combine they asked Peterson to restructure his contract which he refused to do. The Vikings can afford him at his current contract and I doubt he holds out and does not play for $15 million. No matter how unhappy he might be about that.

It could be that Dallas will stick to the limit of what they offered Murray, and if Peterson is out of their price range, instead look to draft a RB to replace Murray. But if you are Jerry Jones would you rather have Peterson for the 27th overall pick or Melvin Gordon?

The Bucs have a much higher pick in the 2nd round than the Cowboys do. So if Tampa is willing to give their second round pick for Peterson, then the Cowboys, Chargers, Cardinals are going to have to offer more than that to obtain him.

Not saying the Bucs have offered that. But it would not surprise me if they did.

 

[Biabreakable]

Report: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Actively Pursuing Adrian Peterson

 

[KellysHeroes]

Well the reason I think Peterson will want a better contract than what Murray received is because he believes he is the best RB in the league. I would tend to agree with him about that as would a lot of people.

If not for what Peterson did to his kid and the subsequent strain on his relationship with the Vikings front office I do not think they would even be considering trading him.

During the combine they asked Peterson to restructure his contract which he refused to do. The Vikings can afford him at his current contract and I doubt he holds out and does not play for $15 million. No matter how unhappy he might be about that.

It could be that Dallas will stick to the limit of what they offered Murray, and if Peterson is out of their price range, instead look to draft a RB to replace Murray. But if you are Jerry Jones would you rather have Peterson for the 27th overall pick or Melvin Gordon?

The Bucs have a much higher pick in the 2nd round than the Cowboys do. So if Tampa is willing to give their second round pick for Peterson, then the Cowboys, Chargers, Cardinals are going to have to offer more than that to obtain him.

Not saying the Bucs have offered that. But it would not surprise me if they did.

i'm pretty sure the relationship between ADP and the Vikes is strained, The NFL and Vikes flat out lied to him last yr. So yeah I doubt hes willing to restructure for them but he might be willing to do it for a contender.

 

[Biabreakable]

Well the reason I think Peterson will want a better contract than what Murray received is because he believes he is the best RB in the league. I would tend to agree with him about that as would a lot of people.

If not for what Peterson did to his kid and the subsequent strain on his relationship with the Vikings front office I do not think they would even be considering trading him.

During the combine they asked Peterson to restructure his contract which he refused to do. The Vikings can afford him at his current contract and I doubt he holds out and does not play for $15 million. No matter how unhappy he might be about that.

It could be that Dallas will stick to the limit of what they offered Murray, and if Peterson is out of their price range, instead look to draft a RB to replace Murray. But if you are Jerry Jones would you rather have Peterson for the 27th overall pick or Melvin Gordon?

The Bucs have a much higher pick in the 2nd round than the Cowboys do. So if Tampa is willing to give their second round pick for Peterson, then the Cowboys, Chargers, Cardinals are going to have to offer more than that to obtain him.

Not saying the Bucs have offered that. But it would not surprise me if they did.

i'm pretty sure the relationship between ADP and the Vikes is strained, The NFL and Vikes flat out lied to him last yr. So yeah I doubt hes willing to restructure for them but he might be willing to do it for a contender.

He already stated that he would be willing to restructure for five teams. The issue was the price. Which I think has been set now that Murray has signed a deal with the Eagles (I think).

 

[Donnybrook]

Why do I feel that ADP to Dallas is the biggest myth perpetuated by the media since the speculation about Johnny Football getting drafted by the Cowboys. All the media outlets just want it to be true because it sells but it seems obvious the Cowboys can save cap money by drafting a back.

 

[Biabreakable]

Does DeMarco Murray joining Eagles shift NFC East balance of power?

Gil Brandt

Eagles have tipped things in their favor -- for now

I would say that right now, the Philadelphia Eagles would be the favorites in the NFC East, what with all the moves they've made. I would think they'll have the capability to play pretty good offense. But you've got to remember one thing: This is a game of chess, and the Dallas Cowboys are surely working on a countermove, whether that means acquiring someone who's already in the league or looking to the draft. The offseason isn't over, and the Cowboys will not stop trying to get better. They might land someone who more than makes up for the loss of DeMarco Murray -- say, someone like Adrian Peterson. Jerry Jones is in second place, so to speak, right now, but do not count Jerry Jones out. Knowing his penchant for big moves -- and trading for Peterson would obviously be a big move -- I would expect something to happen still.

 

[tdoss]

I don't get why Dallas would pay AP more than they offered Murray.

They know what they're getting out of Murray...the guy touched the ball 500 times last year and broke alltime records on a team that has had some of the best running backs in history.

So...in order for Dallas to get AP...they'd have to offer him more than they offered Murray, right? They can't possibly sign AP for $5-$6.5M can they?

I love it...and hope they do since I got AP cheap in my keeper league...

I'm just trying to understand it. You've got a proven quality back that did something none have ever done who has all the chemistry with the team and knows everything about your playbook...for a guy who'll bring a lot of negative baggage, injuries and who knows how he'll mesh with the team? Do people really think AP will do better than Murray did last year (I really hope so...but wow)?

I'm sure it would work out...I'm just saying if I were Jerry Jones...I would've just offered Murray what I would've offered AP and been done with it. Plus...you've got to send a good pick to Minny...

But Philly making all those moves...Jerry is going to have to counter in order to get the spotlight back...so maybe he breaks the bank. Can't see how drafting a RB would get that spotlight back.

 

[Donnybrook]

I don't get why Dallas would pay AP more than they offered Murray....

Exactly that why I think the story is just media driven and there is little basis in reality. These are the same reporters that debated endlessly how Kirk Cousins was a franchise QB and should be traded for 1st round picks. Somehow when everyone is saying it, it somehow makes it true. Adrian Peterson ego will not allow him to take less than 8 million a year. It would be tantamount to him saying that he worth less than Lynch, McCoy and Murray. I can't see him doing that when he has such little time left in his career.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I'm because ADP is an elite back, best of his generation and a future HOFer.

Murray is a good at everything but not great at anything back.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah id pay adp more than murray at this point. Adp on the cowboys would be seriously insane

 

[KellysHeroes]

Yeah id pay adp more than murray at this point. Adp on the cowboys would be seriously insane

I would sign ADP for slightly more, hes had a whole yr to rest so you know hes beasting

 

[Sabertooth]

He's also going to be 30 at the beginning of the season and has huge PR issues.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

He's also going to be 30 at the beginning of the season and has huge PR issues.

I disagree with this.

 

[B-Deep]

The reason Peterson to Dallas is a story is Jerry Jones. The thing is the Cowboys have done well recently at ignoring the big headline moves and doing the right moves. Breaking the cap to trade for Peterson is a huge gamble for many reasons, and not the smart move. But Jerry LOVES stuff like that. There's always the chance the old Jerry exerts his control and makes the move.

I get that Peterson is among the elite backs in nfl history, but he is aging, he missed a season, there are some questions around him. Would it really shock anyone if he came back and looked like an aging average back? nope., or it should not. He is not a cyborg, the wall will come, and history says the wall may come fast and hard.

Now likewise he may come back look awesome and drop 1700 yards no problem. That should not surprise anyone either.

the question is how much are you willing to pay for the risk vs the reward?

and yes, there are PR issues. Now will there be less in Texas than some other places? perhaps. Are the PR issues big enough to be a deterrent? that is a matter of opinion. But to say there are no PR issues is ridiculous.

ETA - just saw the HUGE part above

if you disagree the pr issues are huge, that would be a matter of opinion, but they exist.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I agree they exist but think they're overstated. I really think getting involved on another persons disciplining of their own child is off limits to a lot of people. I get that he used excessive force and I would never condone beating your kid to that length, however it isn't over the top to many people, especially in the south.

 

[B-Deep]

I agree they exist but think they're overstated. I really think getting involved on another persons disciplining of their own child is off limits to a lot of people. I get that he used excessive force and I would never condone beating your kid to that length, however it isn't over the top to many people, especially in the south.

it is off limits to a lot of people

and conversly a lot of people think what he did was way over the top

hard to know how it will play out till he lands at a team. BUT, without this when Peterson lands on your team he is a PR bonanza, he is on your program, on the banners in the stadium, you market him. With this that will all be toned way down until the perception has been accurately gauged

so it plays into all of this in a huge way, his off the field value to a team has been greatly diminished at least short term, long term remains to be seen

 

[BassNBrew]

I agree they exist but think they're overstated. I really think getting involved on another persons disciplining of their own child is off limits to a lot of people. I get that he used excessive force and I would never condone beating your kid to that length, however it isn't over the top to many people, especially in the south.

Maybe you mean Texas because it's not a Southern thing.

http://archive.rgj.com/interactive/article/20130415/NEWS/130404012/Map-State-by-state-data-physical-child-abuse-per-capita-death-rates-from-child-abuse

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I'm not going to defend the guy. What he did was stupid and wrong on every level. I'm just suggesting that how a man disciplines his child is to many, a private matter and I don't think it's going to have a long lasting effect on his popularity or future.

If he does it again all bets are off.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I agree they exist but think they're overstated. I really think getting involved on another persons disciplining of their own child is off limits to a lot of people. I get that he used excessive force and I would never condone beating your kid to that length, however it isn't over the top to many people, especially in the south.

Maybe you mean Texas because it's not a Southern thing.

http://archive.rgj.com/interactive/article/20130415/NEWS/130404012/Map-State-by-state-data-physical-child-abuse-per-capita-death-rates-from-child-abuse

That's a map of reported child abuse cases. If many think that beating their children with a switch isn't off limits and goes unreported, then it doesn't show on your map.

Again, he was wrong, I just don't see the same vitriol as I observed w/the Ray Rice situation.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's also going to be 30 at the beginning of the season and has huge PR issues.

I disagree with this.

That's fine. I hate his ####### guts for injuring his kid in the scrotum with a switch but to each his own. He also basically abandoned his other kid who eventually got killed. Guy is a ####### loser. No way in hell I'd support him coming to Green Bay (my team). No way.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm not going to defend the guy. What he did was stupid and wrong on every level. I'm just suggesting that how a man disciplines his child is to many, a private matter and I don't think it's going to have a long lasting effect on his popularity or future.

If he does it again all bets are off.

You mean if he gets caught again right?

 

[cstu]

Is this the child rea thread now?

 

[cstu]

The reason Peterson to Dallas is a story is Jerry Jones. The thing is the Cowboys have done well recently at ignoring the big headline moves and doing the right moves. Breaking the cap to trade for Peterson is a huge gamble for many reasons, and not the smart move. But Jerry LOVES stuff like that. There's always the chance the old Jerry exerts his control and makes the move.

I get that Peterson is among the elite backs in nfl history, but he is aging, he missed a season, there are some questions around him. Would it really shock anyone if he came back and looked like an aging average back? nope., or it should not. He is not a cyborg, the wall will come, and history says the wall may come fast and hard.

Now likewise he may come back look awesome and drop 1700 yards no problem. That should not surprise anyone either.

the question is how much are you willing to pay for the risk vs the reward?

and yes, there are PR issues. Now will there be less in Texas than some other places? perhaps. Are the PR issues big enough to be a deterrent? that is a matter of opinion. But to say there are no PR issues is ridiculous.

ETA - just saw the HUGE part above

if you disagree the pr issues are huge, that would be a matter of opinion, but they exist.

$8M a year and a late pick.

 

[cstu]

I don't get why Dallas would pay AP more than they offered Murray.

They know what they're getting out of Murray...the guy touched the ball 500 times last year and broke alltime records on a team that has had some of the best running backs in history.

Peterson is a guy that 9 months after tearing his ACL ran for nearly 2100 yards on the Vikings.

You really think even a healthy Murray could have done that?

 

[Sabertooth]

That was two years ago when he was 27. Now he's 30. Big difference. Also Murray just ran for 1845. That's more than Peterson has ever gotten with the exception of that one season. So I think we are comparing apples to apples with Murray and Peterson. Peterson is rushing for 40 less YPG ever since coming off roids his miracle season.

 

[cstu]

That was two years ago when he was 27. Now he's 30. Big difference. Also Murray just ran for 1845. That's more than Peterson has ever gotten with the exception of that one season. So I think we are comparing apples to apples with Murray and Peterson. Peterson is rushing for 40 less YPG ever since coming off roids his miracle season.

He's had 300 carries since he did that at 27. And you think if he was doing roids to recover from his ACL then he hasn't been doing them during his suspension?

 

[Donnybrook]

Some people in this thread just don't get it. It has nothing to with who better Murray or ADP. It is about Dallas being able to afford neither. If Dallas wants to sign Dez to a long term they need to free up some cap money this year or next, not breaking the bank on a running back seems like a good way of doing that.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I'd much rather have Peterson for 2015 than Murray. 500 touches is an awful lot. History is not on his side, and he's struggled with injuries throughout his career.

I realize ADP is 30 and history isn't on his side either. Just think with the kind of athlete he is, that he's likely to have another year or maybe two of elite left.

A middle round pick and a 3 year 25 million/deal seems about right to me. Vikings don't hold a strong hand here. 4th or 5th seems about right.

 

[cstu]

Gore just put up back to back 1100 yard season at age 30/31 and I don't think he's nearly as talented as Peterson. At 32 Gore just got signed to be the starting RB for another team.