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[Sabertooth]

There were rumors that Arizona was offering a 2nd round pick last week and it was interesting listening to the Viking fans on twitter. They were saying stuff like "No way. It's a 1st or no deal". I was one of the few that said that I would take the 2nd round pick instantly.

Now I am thinking that a 2nd round pick is becoming unrealistic and I am expecting that he will get traded for a 4th.

Isn't it mind blowing that Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick two years ago and we seriously are stating its unlikely that Adrian Peterson could be traded for a 2nd round pick?

Age and contract size have a little something to do with it.

Also character issues.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Phil Savage @SeniorBowlPhil · Mar 18

IMO, if @Vikings can get a #2 for AP, they will move him. Otherwise, he can sit for another year. Minn holds the cards here.

Minnesota does not hold as many cards as Phil Savage thinks. Their only "leverage" is that they could trade Peterson to a team that isn't on his list. But that is very unlikely to happen due to the fact that very few teams are willing to take over his current contract.

The Vikings hold ALL of the cards here.

They wouldn't be asking for a meeting with Peterson's agent if they held all the cards. (Peterson's agent would be asking for a meeting with them.)

Guys.

RB Adrian Peterson has a contract that pays him the highest at his position in the league. He will get paid that amount by Minnesota unless the Vikings try to make him take less. The first step in making AdP take less money is to schedule and appointment with him.

Any wonder he won't meet with the team?

There were rumors that Arizona was offering a 2nd round pick last week and it was interesting listening to the Viking fans on twitter. They were saying stuff like "No way. It's a 1st or no deal". I was one of the few that said that I would take the 2nd round pick instantly.

Now I am thinking that a 2nd round pick is becoming unrealistic and I am expecting that he will get traded for a 4th.

Isn't it mind blowing that Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick two years ago and we seriously are stating its unlikely that Adrian Peterson could be traded for a 2nd round pick?

Age and contract size have a little something to do with it.

Also character issues.

The point I was making was tumult in the NFL landscape over the past three years concerning the RB position where RB Trent Richardson went 3rd in the draft and a year after that he was traded away for a 1st round pick and today where we haven't had a RB taken in the first round and where Adrian Peterson isn't even deemed worthy of a 2nd round pick.

The point I was trying to make was how much value the RB position has fallen in such a short period of time. I think we can all agree on that.

 

[Biabreakable]

Phil Savage @SeniorBowlPhil · Mar 18

IMO, if @Vikings can get a #2 for AP, they will move him. Otherwise, he can sit for another year. Minn holds the cards here.

Minnesota does not hold as many cards as Phil Savage thinks. Their only "leverage" is that they could trade Peterson to a team that isn't on his list. But that is very unlikely to happen due to the fact that very few teams are willing to take over his current contract.

The Vikings hold ALL of the cards here.

They wouldn't be asking for a meeting with Peterson's agent if they held all the cards. (Peterson's agent would be asking for a meeting with them.)

Normal pleasantries such as scheduling a meeting are not really cards or leverage.

For all we know the agent has a prior engagement and could not meet at the time requested.

There is certainly bad blood between the agent and the Vikings front office as reported shouting between the parties at the combine. However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Phil Savage @SeniorBowlPhil · Mar 18

IMO, if @Vikings can get a #2 for AP, they will move him. Otherwise, he can sit for another year. Minn holds the cards here.

Minnesota does not hold as many cards as Phil Savage thinks. Their only "leverage" is that they could trade Peterson to a team that isn't on his list. But that is very unlikely to happen due to the fact that very few teams are willing to take over his current contract.

The Vikings hold ALL of the cards here.

They wouldn't be asking for a meeting with Peterson's agent if they held all the cards. (Peterson's agent would be asking for a meeting with them.)

Guys.

RB Adrian Peterson has a contract that pays him the highest at his position in the league. He will get paid that amount by Minnesota unless the Vikings try to make him take less. The first step in making AdP take less money is to schedule and appointment with him.

Any wonder he won't meet with the team?

Exactly. Peterson knows that the Vikings don't want to pay his full salary. But the Vikings don't have much leverage to convince Peterson to take less money.

Almost every possible scenario favors Peterson here. True, he would prefer not to play for Minnesota. But he'll gladly cash his $13M paycheck on September 13th.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

 

[cstu]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

 

[Pots]

Phil Savage @SeniorBowlPhil · Mar 18

IMO, if @Vikings can get a #2 for AP, they will move him. Otherwise, he can sit for another year. Minn holds the cards here.

Minnesota does not hold as many cards as Phil Savage thinks. Their only "leverage" is that they could trade Peterson to a team that isn't on his list. But that is very unlikely to happen due to the fact that very few teams are willing to take over his current contract.

The Vikings hold ALL of the cards here.

They wouldn't be asking for a meeting with Peterson's agent if they held all the cards. (Peterson's agent would be asking for a meeting with them.)

Guys.

RB Adrian Peterson has a contract that pays him the highest at his position in the league. He will get paid that amount by Minnesota unless the Vikings try to make him take less. The first step in making AdP take less money is to schedule and appointment with him.

Any wonder he won't meet with the team?

There were rumors that Arizona was offering a 2nd round pick last week and it was interesting listening to the Viking fans on twitter. They were saying stuff like "No way. It's a 1st or no deal". I was one of the few that said that I would take the 2nd round pick instantly.

Now I am thinking that a 2nd round pick is becoming unrealistic and I am expecting that he will get traded for a 4th.

Isn't it mind blowing that Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick two years ago and we seriously are stating its unlikely that Adrian Peterson could be traded for a 2nd round pick?

Age and contract size have a little something to do with it.

Also character issues.

The point I was making was tumult in the NFL landscape over the past three years concerning the RB position where RB Trent Richardson went 3rd in the draft and a year after that he was traded away for a 1st round pick and today where we haven't had a RB taken in the first round and where Adrian Peterson isn't even deemed worthy of a 2nd round pick.

The point I was trying to make was how much value the RB position has fallen in such a short period of time. I think we can all agree on that.

No, you're still ignoring the age and contract and off the field issues. You can't cherry pick these factors out and try to make a comparison to Trent Richardson.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

There were rumors that Arizona was offering a 2nd round pick last week and it was interesting listening to the Viking fans on twitter. They were saying stuff like "No way. It's a 1st or no deal". I was one of the few that said that I would take the 2nd round pick instantly.

Now I am thinking that a 2nd round pick is becoming unrealistic and I am expecting that he will get traded for a 4th.

Isn't it mind blowing that Trent Richardson was traded for a 1st round pick two years ago and we seriously are stating its unlikely that Adrian Peterson could be traded for a 2nd round pick?

There are two huge reasons why that isn't all that mind blowing (if you ignore the fact the Richardson turned out to be a bum when at the time he was still considered to be the best prospect since AP).

 

[Sabertooth]

10 mil is chump change in the grand scheme of the NFL. I'd love to see him forced to wear the purple.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

10 mil is chump change in the grand scheme of the NFL. I'd love to see him forced to wear the purple.

Peterson wouldn't mind getting paid $13M to play for the Vikings. It certainly wouldn't be his first choice, but it's a better option than agreeing to take less money to play for a non-contender.

 

[Biabreakable]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

 

[cstu]

He'll play at $13M, no one getting paid that much would hold out, especially not a RB today.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.
Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

You don't seem to understand the concept of leverage, nor do you have the ability to grasp the idea of a "worst case scenario".

A more realistic "worst case scenario" for Minnesota would be if Peterson goes on IR after game 1 of 2015, forcing Minnesota to pay him $13 million dollars for virtually nothing.

Your scenario is so ridiculous and far-fetched that it's not even worth responding to.

 

[Sabertooth]

He'll play at $13M, no one getting paid that much would hold out, especially not a RB today.

You are assuming he's got some modicum of logic. He doesn't appear to. I could see an egomaniac like Peterson retiring just to prove he is right.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

He'll play at $13M, no one getting paid that much would hold out, especially not a RB today.

You are assuming he's got some modicum of logic. He doesn't appear to. I could see an egomaniac like Peterson retiring just to prove he is right.

I am not surprised that you could see that.

 

[Sabertooth]

Crazier things have happened.

 

[Kowskull]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

h

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does no s to play over half of the That is 4 games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

I think you are missing the most important coponent. He does not want to be there. Now think about that a moment. Will he show up if forced? Yes. Will he give a hunded percent? No So the vikings pay him top money and a fumble here a fumble there, half effort here half effort there and then all of a sudden they dont want him in the game. So now u pay him for sittin on the bench or release him. They will not take that chance. That is why players that do not want to be somewhere get traded or released, depending on talent level.That is the leverge he has.

 

[Biabreakable]

I am not missing the fact that Peterson has said he does not want to play for the Vikings.

What is Peterson unhappy about?

He wants to play. He cares about his legacy and wants to be remembered as the best RB to ever play the game. That is what motivates him.

So your suggestion that he agrees to play for the Vikings but does not give full effort and lays an egg does have a minute possibility of happening I suppose. But it would be completely unlike everything Peterson has done thus far in his life.

IF Peterson did try to do this then the Vikings would just bench him. Which he would be very unhappy about. The possibility of this scenario seems extremely remote to me.

 

[cstu]

I am not missing the fact that Peterson has said he does not want to play for the Vikings.

What is Peterson unhappy about?

He wants to play. He cares about his legacy and wants to be remembered as the best RB to ever play the game. That is what motivates him.

So your suggestion that he agrees to play for the Vikings but does not give full effort and lays an egg does have a minute possibility of happening I suppose. But it would be completely unlike everything Peterson has done thus far in his life.

IF Peterson did try to do this then the Vikings would just bench him. Which he would be very unhappy about. The possibility of this scenario seems extremely remote to me.

That the team sided with Goodell last year about putting him on the exemption list.

However, he will absolutely play and give 100% if the Vikes don't trade/release him.

 

[cstu]

Will he give a hundred percent? No.

AD isn't going to quit on his team if he's on the field, whether he's happy about the situation or not.

 

[Kowskull]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

 

[Sabertooth]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

h

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does no s to play over half of the That is 4 games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

I think you are missing the most important coponent. He does not want to be there. Now think about that a moment. Will he show up if forced? Yes. Will he give a hunded percent? No So the vikings pay him top money and a fumble here a fumble there, half effort here half effort there and then all of a sudden they dont want him in the game. So now u pay him for sittin on the bench or release him. They will not take that chance. That is why players that do not want to be somewhere get traded or released, depending on talent level.That is the leverge he has.

If he tanked a season, he'd go down as one of the most despicable player in NFL history. I have no doubt he'd give 100%. The chances of him doing .

 

[Donnybrook]

I am not missing the fact that Peterson has said he does not want to play for the Vikings.

What is Peterson unhappy about?

He wants to play. He cares about his legacy and wants to be remembered as the best RB to ever play the game. That is what motivates him.

So your suggestion that he agrees to play for the Vikings but does not give full effort and lays an egg does have a minute possibility of happening I suppose. But it would be completely unlike everything Peterson has done thus far in his life.

IF Peterson did try to do this then the Vikings would just bench him. Which he would be very unhappy about. The possibility of this scenario seems extremely remote to me.

Agreed. He has the ego the size of Texas and I can't see him sitting again while other backs collect all the glory and rushing records.

Another thing that the Vikings have going for them is that other running backs will actually be training in camp and playing in pre-season while Peterson won't. Injuries happen. People forget that Indy only traded for Richardson after they lost Vick Ballard for the season.

 

[Silver & Black]

To me, the situation is very simple.

Right or wrong, Peterson isn't happy with the way the Vikes handled the situation when he went on the exemption list. He absolutely does not want to play in Minnesota anymore. The Vikes may truly want him to play for them in 2015, but they absolutely don't want to pay him what has become an exorbitant contract for RB's, even for AP. Peterson will not negotiate with the Vikes to play for them in 2015 in an attempt to force them to trade him. No other team will trade for him at his current contract. These are the ugly and messy facts. Sometimes there is no good solution and teams and players are forced to choose between several bad options. This is what I think will happen here.

In my opinion, if nothing changes, Minnesota will bite the bullet and pay AP his enormous salary to play for them in 2015. If this happens, Peterson will also bite the bullet and collect his giant paycheck, play with a chip on his shoulder and absolutely give a full effort.

 

[Insein]

He's acting like a toddler.

No he's not. The Vikings are desperately trying to avoid honoring Peterson's contract, and Peterson has no intention (or incentive) to help them do it.

He's due $13 mil. Vikings don't want to pay him that. He has no obligation to discuss anything with them. They can cut him, trade him or play him.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

He's acting like a toddler.

No he's not. The Vikings are desperately trying to avoid honoring Peterson's contract, and Peterson has no intention (or incentive) to help them do it.

He's due $13 mil. Vikings don't want to pay him that. He has no obligation to discuss anything with them. They can cut him, trade him or play him.

that's the way i'm seeing it. Vikings are playing the public relations game trying to get the highest pick they can. In the end they are trading him to the highest bidder. The Vikings don't want him at his current salary and he doesn't want to be there.

 

[mr roboto]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

h

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does no s to play over half of the That is 4 games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

I think you are missing the most important coponent. He does not want to be there. Now think about that a moment. Will he show up if forced? Yes. Will he give a hunded percent? No So the vikings pay him top money and a fumble here a fumble there, half effort here half effort there and then all of a sudden they dont want him in the game. So now u pay him for sittin on the bench or release him. They will not take that chance. That is why players that do not want to be somewhere get traded or released, depending on talent level.That is the leverge he has.

So he would play poorly to try to go somewhere else? A 30 yr old RB suddenly plays poorly and you think he would have suitors? The worst thing he could do is play poorly or act petulant. That would really restrict his options.

 

[FUBAR]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

Right

So how do the Vikings have all of the cards in this chess match?

 

[FUBAR]

I am not missing the fact that Peterson has said he does not want to play for the Vikings.

What is Peterson unhappy about?

He wants to play. He cares about his legacy and wants to be remembered as the best RB to ever play the game. That is what motivates him.

So your suggestion that he agrees to play for the Vikings but does not give full effort and lays an egg does have a minute possibility of happening I suppose. But it would be completely unlike everything Peterson has done thus far in his life.

IF Peterson did try to do this then the Vikings would just bench him. Which he would be very unhappy about. The possibility of this scenario seems extremely remote to me.

Agreed. He has the ego the size of Texas and I can't see him sitting again while other backs collect all the glory and rushing records.

Another thing that the Vikings have going for them is that other running backs will actually be training in camp and playing in pre-season while Peterson won't. Injuries happen. People forget that Indy only traded for Richardson after they lost Vick Ballard for the season.

Yep.

He might be a crappy teammate but he's going to play the only way he knows how.

 

[FUBAR]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

Most of us aren't in the limelight or have a hall of fame legacy to keep.

 

[Kowskull]

Not saying he would play so poorly that it would super noticiable. I think alot of people are underestimating what people do when they feel betrayed. plenty of guys been traded or released just by starting trouble in the locker room. And it always shows up on the field eventually. Coaches want everyone on the same page and with good addtitudes. It is naive to think he will put all of his beliefs aside magically when season starts from the very personal nature of the child abuse and aftermath and in his head what the Vikings did or not did that got him so upset. We can make a big list of football players down this road that caused trouble and were traded or released. Not worth the hassle Vikings will trade him

 

[Kowskull]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

Most of us aren't in the limelight or have a hall of fame legacy to keep.

Yea football players dont do anything stupid to mess up thier legacy... ..murder,rape,child abbuse, send pic of thier ****, drugs , domestic violence, i can go on list is endless

 

[Dr. Octopus]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

h

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does no s to play over half of the That is 4 games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

I think you are missing the most important coponent. He does not want to be there. Now think about that a moment. Will he show up if forced? Yes. Will he give a hunded percent? No So the vikings pay him top money and a fumble here a fumble there, half effort here half effort there and then all of a sudden they dont want him in the game. So now u pay him for sittin on the bench or release him. They will not take that chance. That is why players that do not want to be somewhere get traded or released, depending on talent level.That is the leverge he has.

No NFL player is going to fumble on purpose so he gets benched.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

You must be a real successful dude.

 

[Kowskull]

Just the threat of doing something like that is all it takes to get traded out of town. That is his leverage. No Gm or coach is going to want to play a player he cant trust. Anyway i was just playing devils advocate to the guy that said he has no leverage. There is always a way to get leverage. And truth be known we really do not know what is said behind closed doors and never will.

 

[Kowskull]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

You must be a real successful dude.

Ofcourse I do what i like and if i dont like it i find a way to get there. Who doesnt do that?

 

[FUBAR]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

Most of us aren't in the limelight or have a hall of fame legacy to keep.

Yea football players dont do anything stupid to mess up thier legacy... ..murder,rape,child abbuse, send pic of thier ****, drugs , domestic violence, i can go on list is endless

Fwiw, I'm just saying AD is highly likely to continue to work as he always has, not making some sweeping generalization about all players always making the best decisions.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I doubt Peterson will even face the prospect of "tanking" the season, because it's very unlikely that he'll be on Minnesota's roster by Week 1. They have to get rid of him to avoid paying his monster salary.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I doubt Peterson will even face the prospect of "tanking" the season, because it's very unlikely that he'll be on Minnesota's roster by Week 1. They have to get rid of him to avoid paying his monster salary.

yup, in the end Minnesota is going to take the highest pick they get offered to get rid of his salary. when push comes to shove if the best pick they are offered is a 5th or something they will take it. They don't want to pay him 12 million+ a year. It's all posturing by them, shocked anyone is buying the BS they are spewing.

 

[Kowskull]

agree on both

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Just like every person in the real world. If you hate where you work you do just enough to get by till better job comes along. You do not give 100 percent. And if you really hate it you become a company cancer destroying all team work.You might be right and he does fine just do not see Vikings taking the chance

You must be a real successful dude.

Ofcourse I do what i like and if i dont like it i find a way to get there. Who doesnt do that?

Who doesn't slack off or become a cancer in the workplace when they don't like their jobs? Most people. I guess some losers do what you're saying.

As much of a piece of trash Peterson is as a human, he's not a loser when it comes to his profession, what you've been suggesting just isn't realistic.

 

[scott46984]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

Biabrakable nailed it. This is exactly right. The Vikes can handle the cap number and say they want him back. Also, post #2085 quoting Florio from PFT right on too.

He's under contract, and as far as the Vikes are concerned he plays for them. Now if someone blows their doors off with a good offer they may trade him. Otherwise what's to discuss? As far as I'm concerned, the Vikings should stick with this. This whole situation is of his doing, not the team's. Either play it out or sit for another year, and then as I understand it if he sits out he owes the team repayment of $2M-$3M guaranteed money for this season. His call, shut the hell up and live with the situation that he's created or waste another year of earnings. I think the Vikes hold ALL the cards.

 

[FUBAR]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

Biabrakable nailed it. This is exactly right. The Vikes can handle the cap number and say they want him back. Also, post #2085 quoting Florio from PFT right on too.He's under contract, and as far as the Vikes are concerned he plays for them. Now if someone blows their doors off with a good offer they may trade him. Otherwise what's to discuss? As far as I'm concerned, the Vikings should stick with this. This whole situation is of his doing, not the team's. Either play it out or sit for another year, and then as I understand it if he sits out he owes the team repayment of $2M-$3M guaranteed money for this season. His call, shut the hell up and live with the situation that he's created or waste another year of earnings. I think the Vikes hold ALL the cards.

All the cards. When whether likely or not, AD could just walk away and they get nothing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

Biabrakable nailed it. This is exactly right. The Vikes can handle the cap number and say they want him back. Also, post #2085 quoting Florio from PFT right on too.He's under contract, and as far as the Vikes are concerned he plays for them. Now if someone blows their doors off with a good offer they may trade him. Otherwise what's to discuss? As far as I'm concerned, the Vikings should stick with this. This whole situation is of his doing, not the team's. Either play it out or sit for another year, and then as I understand it if he sits out he owes the team repayment of $2M-$3M guaranteed money for this season. His call, shut the hell up and live with the situation that he's created or waste another year of earnings. I think the Vikes hold ALL the cards.

All the cards. When whether likely or not, AD could just walk away and they get nothing.

They'd save $13MM of cap space and real money - that's not nothing.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's acting like a toddler.

No he's not. The Vikings are desperately trying to avoid honoring Peterson's contract, and Peterson has no intention (or incentive) to help them do it.

He's due $13 mil. Vikings don't want to pay him that. He has no obligation to discuss anything with them. They can cut him, trade him or play him.

Conversely he can play or holdout.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

They'd save $13MM of cap space and real money - that's not nothing.

They have the cap space, so that isn't an issue...especially with the big market FA's gone anyway.

The Wilf's don't seem to care about paying him or not paying him...they save the money if he doesn't play and if he does they will easily make that money because they probably make the playoffs (some homerism in that statement).

I think the Vikings would be happy to pay him to have him play at his current salary. Peterson's problem is that he doesn't really want to play for the Vikings and he doesn't want to take a pay cut to play somewhere else...

 

[skol asylum]

Yeah, i don't get this claim of desperation about his contract numbers at all. They paid the guy last year for one game. They could have played hardball with that and didn't. They don't have cap issues, at least for this year. I doubt they have any in the next couple of years either because the team isnt loaded with star players. They could really use Adrian's high profile to get new season ticket holders for the new stadium next year. His stupid behavior is burning alot of bridges though. All he had to do was come back contrite and give one press conference saying he made mistakes and to ask for forgiveness and that he was going to help Teddy take the team to the next level. I think if he had the right attitude there the team would gladly just pay out the rest of his contract. His agent Dogra is dog#### with the advice he has been giving him.

 

[FUBAR]

Maybe they can save 13 million and sign Crabtree

 

[cstu]

Yeah, i don't get this claim of desperation about his contract numbers at all. They paid the guy last year for one game. They could have played hardball with that and didn't. They don't have cap issues, at least for this year. I doubt they have any in the next couple of years either because the team isnt loaded with star players. They could really use Adrian's high profile to get new season ticket holders for the new stadium next year. His stupid behavior is burning alot of bridges though. All he had to do was come back contrite and give one press conference saying he made mistakes and to ask for forgiveness and that he was going to help Teddy take the team to the next level. I think if he had the right attitude there the team would gladly just pay out the rest of his contract. His agent Dogra is dog#### with the advice he has been giving him.

Even if they haven't asked him to take a pay cut this season, do you think there's any chance he gets the $15M he's due in 2016? I understand him not wanting to spend his age 30 season on a team that is only going to cut him next year.