Adrian Peterson, retired (2 Viewers)

[Mr. Retukes]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

Biabrakable nailed it. This is exactly right. The Vikes can handle the cap number and say they want him back. Also, post #2085 quoting Florio from PFT right on too.

He's under contract, and as far as the Vikes are concerned he plays for them. Now if someone blows their doors off with a good offer they may trade him. Otherwise what's to discuss? As far as I'm concerned, the Vikings should stick with this. This whole situation is of his doing, not the team's. Either play it out or sit for another year, and then as I understand it if he sits out he owes the team repayment of $2M-$3M guaranteed money for this season. His call, shut the hell up and live with the situation that he's created or waste another year of earnings. I think the Vikes hold ALL the cards.

Your use of the phrases "sit another year" and "waste another year of earnings" show a lack of understanding of the situation.

Peterson did not "sit out" last season -- he was placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List by the NFL (with full agreement of the Vikings) and then suspended. He was paid most of (if not all of) his salary in 2014.

The bottom line is that if the Vikings held all the cards, they wouldn't be asking to meet with Peterson's agent. They'd be doing exactly as you said above -- shut the hell up and live with the situation.

The fact that the Vikings want to meet with Peterson's agent is evidence that A) they don't hold all the cards, and B) they are desperate to reduce or eliminate Peterson's $13M salary.

Peterson is not going to sit out the 2015 season. No player in the history of the NFL has voluntarily sat out when there was a $13M paycheck on the line. The closest comparison would be Barry Sanders, and he didn't sit out -- he retired (and he only had about $6M in guaranteed money on the line).

 

[Cjw_55106]

I think it's pretty common for a team to ask to meet with an agent when their player wants a trade. It has zero to do with leverage.

 

[scott46984]

"Even if they haven't asked him to take a pay cut this season, do you think there's any chance he gets the $15M he's due in 2016? I understand him not wanting to spend his age 30 season on a team that is only going to cut him next year."

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It's the contract HE signed. Not likely the Vikings pick up the $15 million in 2016, but that's irrelevant. Play and get paid or sit out and don't. It's really that simple, and the Vikings shouldn't budge 1 inch while Peterson is taking this stance. Now if he wants to talk to the team about reworking his deal to add some more guaranteed money in future years then fine, but if what he's really angling for is to play elsewhere then there's absolutely no reason the Viking should accommodate him unless they are offered a deal that they like more than they like having Peterson play for them this season.

 

[Donnybrook]

I don't recall the Vikings giving Dogra and Peterson the permission to seek a trade. So if he really wants to leave, he is going to have to talk to the Vikings eventually.

 

[scott46984]

Mr Retukes said:

"Your use of the phrases "sit another year" and "waste another year of earnings" show a lack of understanding of the situation.

Peterson did not "sit out" last season -- he was placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List by the NFL (with full agreement of the Vikings) and then suspended. He was paid most of (if not all of) his salary in 2014."

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You are correct about this- I know he didn't "sit out" but was rather placed on the exempt list and I know he was paid for most of the season. My apologies for being a little loose with the facts in making my point.

However-totally disagree with you about the Vikings being "desperate" to reduce or eliminate Peterson salary. I think the reason they're meeting is because Spielman is doing his best to try to mend fences and get Adrian to come around to the idea of returning to the team. He's being a good manager, although frankly I think The Vikings have already gone above and beyond on this. I also agree with you that Peterson is not likely to sit out 2015 season and give up the money, which goes back to my point that the Vikings hold all the cards.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

It's the contract HE signed. Not likely the Vikings pick up the $15 million in 2016, but that's irrelevant. Play and get paid or sit out and don't. It's really that simple, and the Vikings shouldn't budge 1 inch while Peterson is taking this stance.

Neither side has officially "taken a stance" yet. Peterson has not asked to be traded. The Vikings have not officially asked Peterson to restructure his contract.

But if the current situation is not changed, it's clear which side will be the bigger loser here -- the Vikings. They'll be stuck with a $13M bill for a player who might only be worth 75% of that number, while also hurting their ability to add players via free agency. Peterson won't exactly be thrilled to play for the Vikings, but don't kid yourself into thinking that he will pass up the free money.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I also agree with you that Peterson is not likely to sit out 2015 season and give up the money, which goes back to my point that the Vikings hold all the cards.

The Vikings will need to restructure Peterson's contract in order to be more competitive. But they can't restructure Peterson's contract without Peterson's approval. Who do you think holds the most cards in that scenario?

Peterson does have some incentive to restructure (i.e., he could give up some money in 2015 in exchange for more guaranteed money in 2016), but right now his desire to play elsewhere is stronger than his desire to help the Vikings with their salary cap.

And I know that the Vikings could pay Peterson's full salary this year. But that would be bad business.

 

[Sabertooth]

However the agent refusing a meeting isn't going to help his negotiations in any way whatsoever.

There are no negotiations. Peterson has a contract. He expects Minnesota to either honor the contract, trade him, or cut him. No further discussion necessary.

People need to realized that these discussions are about nothing more than AD taking less money.

And that's exactly why Minnesota doesn't hold as many cards as people think. That $13M salary is an albatross around Minnesota's neck. They're desperate to reduce or eliminate it. Peterson would be willing to reduce it IF he was playing for one of his preferred teams, but he's not going to agree to reduce it to play for the Vikings.

The Vikings have already stated that they want Peterson to play for them in 2015. They have him under contract until 2017.

Teams are interested in trading for Peterson, but as rumored (logically) most teams are not willing to take on the high contract unlike the Vikings.

There is no leverage on Peterson's side of this. At all.

Worst case scenario for the Vikings is they control Peterson's rights and he does not play for them, in which case they do not have to pay him. This means Peterson will not be able to play (his choice) until 2018 when he will be 33 years old and I think there is a time limit to gain eligibility as a free agent as well. The player on the last year of their contract has to play over half of the games to gain free agent eligibility.

Again. Peterson and his agent have no leverage here. None. At all. I won't be explaining this again.

Biabrakable nailed it. This is exactly right. The Vikes can handle the cap number and say they want him back. Also, post #2085 quoting Florio from PFT right on too.

He's under contract, and as far as the Vikes are concerned he plays for them. Now if someone blows their doors off with a good offer they may trade him. Otherwise what's to discuss? As far as I'm concerned, the Vikings should stick with this. This whole situation is of his doing, not the team's. Either play it out or sit for another year, and then as I understand it if he sits out he owes the team repayment of $2M-$3M guaranteed money for this season. His call, shut the hell up and live with the situation that he's created or waste another year of earnings. I think the Vikes hold ALL the cards.

Your use of the phrases "sit another year" and "waste another year of earnings" show a lack of understanding of the situation.

Peterson did not "sit out" last season -- he was placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List by the NFL (with full agreement of the Vikings) and then suspended. He was paid most of (if not all of) his salary in 2014.

The bottom line is that if the Vikings held all the cards, they wouldn't be asking to meet with Peterson's agent. They'd be doing exactly as you said above -- shut the hell up and live with the situation.

The fact that the Vikings want to meet with Peterson's agent is evidence that A) they don't hold all the cards, and B) they are desperate to reduce or eliminate Peterson's $13M salary.

Peterson is not going to sit out the 2015 season. No player in the history of the NFL has voluntarily sat out when there was a $13M paycheck on the line. The closest comparison would be Barry Sanders, and he didn't sit out -- he retired (and he only had about $6M in guaranteed money on the line).

I don't think you understand what the word "evidence" means.

 

[Sabertooth]

I also agree with you that Peterson is not likely to sit out 2015 season and give up the money, which goes back to my point that the Vikings hold all the cards.

The Vikings will need to restructure Peterson's contract in order to be more competitive. But they can't restructure Peterson's contract without Peterson's approval. Who do you think holds the most cards in that scenario?

Peterson does have some incentive to restructure (i.e., he could give up some money in 2015 in exchange for more guaranteed money in 2016), but right now his desire to play elsewhere is stronger than his desire to help the Vikings with their salary cap.

And I know that the Vikings could pay Peterson's full salary this year. But that would be bad business.

How? If they pay him, he is going to play for them. It isn't like they are going to pay him and not get to use his services.

 

[Sabertooth]

I also agree with you that Peterson is not likely to sit out 2015 season and give up the money, which goes back to my point that the Vikings hold all the cards.

The Vikings will need to restructure Peterson's contract in order to be more competitive. But they can't restructure Peterson's contract without Peterson's approval. Who do you think holds the most cards in that scenario?

Peterson does have some incentive to restructure (i.e., he could give up some money in 2015 in exchange for more guaranteed money in 2016), but right now his desire to play elsewhere is stronger than his desire to help the Vikings with their salary cap.

And I know that the Vikings could pay Peterson's full salary this year. But that would be bad business.

What have the Vikings done in the past 30 years that makes you think they want to be competitive?

 

[Donnybrook]

"hurting their ability to add players via free agency" - maybe next year because unused cap can be carried forward but not this year. Vikings are several million under the cap even with Peterson's contract. There are 8 teams with over 20 million to spend - if there were elite free agents out there, they would have signed them.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

What have the Vikings done in the past 30 years that makes you think they want to be competitive?

Whether the Vikings want to be competitive or not, it's still in their best interest to restructure Peterson's contract. Even from a purely financial point of view, Peterson's current contract is bad for business.

 

[scott46984]

I also agree with you that Peterson is not likely to sit out 2015 season and give up the money, which goes back to my point that the Vikings hold all the cards.

The Vikings will need to restructure Peterson's contract in order to be more competitive. But they can't restructure Peterson's contract without Peterson's approval. Who do you think holds the most cards in that scenario?

Peterson does have some incentive to restructure (i.e., he could give up some money in 2015 in exchange for more guaranteed money in 2016), but right now his desire to play elsewhere is stronger than his desire to help the Vikings with their salary cap.

And I know that the Vikings could pay Peterson's full salary this year. But that would be bad business.

Regarding the bolded above, not sure why you keep saying the VIkings need to restructure. They've don't have cap issues for 2015 from what I read, especially after releasing Jennings and likely to still redo or release Greenway. Peterson's contract beyond 2015 is not guaranteed from what I understand. Also - there isn't much left in free agency, so unless the Vikings are planning on some sort of trade that brings in players for whom they need more cap room I don't think there's any urgency to reduce Peterson's cap hit.

Guess we'll just have to disagree on who holds the cards here. If you think the Vikes need the cap space then I understand why you think Peterson holds the cards. I don't think they need the cap space and think they are perfectly content to play it out with ADP in 2015 at his current deal, hence I think the VIkes hold the cards.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Guess we'll just have to disagree on who holds the cards here.

The Vikings "hold the cards" in terms of Peterson playing for the team of his choice. But it's not the most envious position to be in, since they are "holding" a contract that will significantly impact their bottom line. They don't have as much leverage as other teams have had in similar situations, because they are facing a contract payout that is higher than any other running back in the history of the game.

That salary might have seemed like a bargain when Peterson was drawing in the fans, but that value has eroded.

Peterson may need Minnesota to get him to a different team, but he'll gladly accept the "consolation prize" of $13 million dollars. That's why Minnesota doesn't have as much leverage as people think. They are assuming that Peterson would walk away from his guaranteed money. But that's simply not going to happen.

 

[Sabertooth]

According to this article, the Vikings are worth 1.12B. So while it may seem like a huge amount of money to you and me, it's a drop in the bucket to pay or not pay Adrian Peterson for Ziggy Wilf. They guy has epic money, Wilf is worth an estimated 1.3 Billion dollars. Adrian's contract is approximately 1% of that endless sea of money.

And you think Adrian has a big ego? Think about what a small fish he is compared to Ziggy. Ziggy has chunks of guys like Adrian Peterson in his stool. Put another way, think of Wilf as a 220 lb once in a generation athlete with a stick. We can then think of Adrian Peterson as, oh I don't know, a 4 year old kid. Now lets see what happens when the Ziggy feels the need to exact punishment on Adrian.

http://www.forbes.com/teams/minnesota-vikings/

 

[B-Deep]

Guess we'll just have to disagree on who holds the cards here.

The Vikings "hold the cards" in terms of Peterson playing for the team of his choice. But it's not the most envious position to be in, since they are "holding" a contract that will significantly impact their bottom line. They don't have as much leverage as other teams have had in similar situations, because they are facing a contract payout that is higher than any other running back in the history of the game.

That salary might have seemed like a bargain when Peterson was drawing in the fans, but that value has eroded.

Peterson may need Minnesota to get him to a different team, but he'll gladly accept the "consolation prize" of $13 million dollars. That's why Minnesota doesn't have as much leverage as people think. They are assuming that Peterson would walk away from his guaranteed money. But that's simply not going to happen.

i have seen nothing to indicate the vikes won't be happy to pay him his $13mil. If he is a great player still they are a much better team, if not those are the breaks.

if they do not think he is worth 13mil when they have cap space, why assume there is another team that thinks he is worth the cash he will want (he still thinks he is elite) AND the compensation the vikes will want?

I agree the vikes would love to restructure his agreement, i do not think they have to,

They clearly are in control here, Peterson will play where they say he will play, and there i very little he can do about it.

 

[davearm]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

 

[B-Deep]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

there has been no evidence that they do not want him. And if they do not want him the risk is no one does, the challenges he presents to their team are no unique, and in fact their fan base who has already developed a relationship with him are likely to be much quicker to forgive and forget

if they are desperate to get rid of him then yes, he would have leverage. I do not think they are.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

Peterson's leverage is his talent and what he can do for a team, which is a lot because he can get them (Vikes, Cards, whomever) into the playoffs.

I'm guessing the Vikes are divided on that last point (whether they want him to be a Vike) and have been since the beginning.

 

[Biabreakable]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

After letting Jared Allen become a free agent this freed up $17 million in cap space that the Vikings chose to use on signing DT Linval Joseph and CB Captain Munnerlin, while also giving Jared Allens replacement DE Everson Griffen a big contract.

Having big salaries on the books is somewhat like saving big chunks of cap space in the year after those contracts expire. The Vikings have been excellent at cap management and never run into problems where they have to make decisions because of big contracts with players. I think the Vikings have a plan and fully intend to honor Peterson's contract as long as Peterson is playing at a high level. That is why they agreed to it in the form the contract is.

If you look at Peterson's contract in the context of what they did with Jared Allen. It does not seem out of line to commit that percentage of the cap space to a players such as Peterson. Despite what other teams across the league have been doing contract wise with RB across the NFL.

The Vikings might have been able to use additional cap space to bid higher on a free agent they liked such as guard Clint Boling? But if they really wanted to do that, they had the cap space to do so and they could have restructured Chad Greenways contract to make additional room if they needed to as well. Cap space obviously didn't deter them from taking on Mike Williams contract or the cap hit for cutting Greg Jennings following the trade.

The Vikings do want to sign Harrison Smith to a new long term deal. But they have enough money to do that without changing anything about Peterson's deal.

The Vikings received a lot of backlash from fans for cutting Antone Winfield in 2013. The Vikings defense went from bad to one of the worst in team history following that. But Winfield was 36 years old and was not able to catch on with another team in 2013. So in retrospect it looks like they made the correct decision, as unpopular as it was at the time.

I do think the Vikings asked Dorga to restructure Peterson's contract at the combine. I think this is what he got angry about. Perhaps because of the context of how they handled Jared Allen's deal being thrown back in their face.

If Peterson does want the Vikings to trade him, he needs his agent to make clear what kind of a pay cut he would be willing to take to help facilitate a trade. He does not need to talk about that over dinner however. There are many different ways to communicate in this modern age.

 

[Joe Summer]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

The Jared Allen contract is certainly worth bringing into the discussion, but there are also several key differences worth noting:

1. Allen had just made the Pro Bowl.

2. Allen was in the final year of his contract, whereas Peterson has 3 years remaining.

3. Defensive linemen are more likely to remain productive into their early 30s.

4. Allen wasn't a PR risk.

My opinion leans in the direction of the Vikings paying Peterson, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk guarantee.

 

[cstu]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

The Jared Allen contract is certainly worth bringing into the discussion, but there are also several key differences worth noting:

1. Allen had just made the Pro Bowl.

2. Allen was in the final year of his contract, whereas Peterson has 3 years remaining.

3. Defensive linemen are more likely to remain productive into their early 30s.

4. Allen wasn't a PR risk.

My opinion leans in the direction of the Vikings paying Peterson, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk guarantee.

It comes down to the pick they can get - if they were offered a 2nd they would take it immediately but more likely will have to decide whether to take a 5th or later for him. I think he returns to Minnesota since the Vikings have the money to pay him and won't get the pick they want.

 

[Sabertooth]

Didn't Allen have multiple drunk driving suspensions?

 

[Cjw_55106]

Didn't Allen have multiple drunk driving suspensions?

He did...all before he went to MN.

 

[Biabreakable]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

The Jared Allen contract is certainly worth bringing into the discussion, but there are also several key differences worth noting:

1. Allen had just made the Pro Bowl.

2. Allen was in the final year of his contract, whereas Peterson has 3 years remaining.

3. Defensive linemen are more likely to remain productive into their early 30s.

4. Allen wasn't a PR risk.

My opinion leans in the direction of the Vikings paying Peterson, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk guarantee.

It comes down to the pick they can get - if they were offered a 2nd they would take it immediately but more likely will have to decide whether to take a 5th or later for him. I think he returns to Minnesota since the Vikings have the money to pay him and won't get the pick they want.

They won't be settling for a 5th round pick. I do not understand why people keep saying this when Peterson is clearly worth quite a bit more than that in a trade.

 

[Heatman]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

What gives you this idea? Just a hunch? Everything they have done has been about trying to get him to play in MN. The only reason they have been seeking a trade is because that's what he wants. To me it looks like they are bending over backwards to keep him.

 

[BigJim®]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

What gives you this idea? Just a hunch? Everything they have done has been about trying to get him to play in MN. The only reason they have been seeking a trade is because that's what he wants. To me it looks like they are bending over backwards to keep him.

JMHO, I do think the Vikes would prefer to receive decent value in trade to be done with the AP situation. Talking up the desire to keep AP probably serves two objectives though; (1) negotiating positioning, and (2) smoothing things over for a scenario where they do actually have to keep him.

 

[cstu]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

The Jared Allen contract is certainly worth bringing into the discussion, but there are also several key differences worth noting:

1. Allen had just made the Pro Bowl.

2. Allen was in the final year of his contract, whereas Peterson has 3 years remaining.

3. Defensive linemen are more likely to remain productive into their early 30s.

4. Allen wasn't a PR risk.

My opinion leans in the direction of the Vikings paying Peterson, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk guarantee.

It comes down to the pick they can get - if they were offered a 2nd they would take it immediately but more likely will have to decide whether to take a 5th or later for him. I think he returns to Minnesota since the Vikings have the money to pay him and won't get the pick they want.

They won't be settling for a 5th round pick. I do not understand why people keep saying this when Peterson is clearly worth quite a bit more than that in a trade.

Not at his current salary. If all the Eagles could get for McCoy (3 years younger) is post-torn ACL Alonso then the Vikes aren't getting much for AD.

 

[Faust]

Peterson wants out from Vikes badly, but how much is he willing to lose?

 

[Biabreakable]

For additional context.

The Vikings paid Jared Allen $17 million on the last year of his contract. They never asked him to restructure. So the Vikings do have a track record of honoring these very expensive deals they have agreed to, even into the last year of the contract.

The Jared Allen contract is certainly worth bringing into the discussion, but there are also several key differences worth noting:

1. Allen had just made the Pro Bowl.

2. Allen was in the final year of his contract, whereas Peterson has 3 years remaining.

3. Defensive linemen are more likely to remain productive into their early 30s.

4. Allen wasn't a PR risk.

My opinion leans in the direction of the Vikings paying Peterson, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk guarantee.

It comes down to the pick they can get - if they were offered a 2nd they would take it immediately but more likely will have to decide whether to take a 5th or later for him. I think he returns to Minnesota since the Vikings have the money to pay him and won't get the pick they want.

They won't be settling for a 5th round pick. I do not understand why people keep saying this when Peterson is clearly worth quite a bit more than that in a trade.

Not at his current salary. If all the Eagles could get for McCoy (3 years younger) is post-torn ACL Alonso then the Vikes aren't getting much for AD.

Alonso was a second round pick.

But we have already been over this before in this thread.

I do not see the Vikings trading Peterson for anything less than a second round pick. He is worth too much to the team, happy or not to take less than that.

 

[Faust]

What can Adrian Peterson accomplish in his 30s?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Adrian Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, said he doesn't "think it's in the best interests of Adrian Peterson to play for the Vikings."
The two sides appear to be on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. The Vikings have stated countless times how much they want Peterson back with the team in 2015, while Peterson's camp has erred on the side of caution, refusing to believe what's coming out of the Vikings' higher-ups mouths. Peterson reportedly felt betrayed by the Vikings last season during his child-abuse incident. This thing looks like it's headed for an inevitable divorce in the near future.

Source: Jason Cole on Twitter
Mar 23 - 6:36 PM

 

[VarsityBlues123]

tell him you are not trading him and force him to play or retire.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Rotoworld:

Adrian Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, said he doesn't "think it's in the best interests of Adrian Peterson to play for the Vikings."

The two sides appear to be on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. The Vikings have stated countless times how much they want Peterson back with the team in 2015, while Peterson's camp has erred on the side of caution, refusing to believe what's coming out of the Vikings' higher-ups mouths. Peterson reportedly felt betrayed by the Vikings last season during his child-abuse incident. This thing looks like it's headed for an inevitable divorce in the near future.

Source: Jason Cole on Twitter

Mar 23 - 6:36 PM

Does anyone find it odd, that Peterson felt "betrayed" by an employer that suspended him (with full pay), while he faced criminal charges for a heinous crime?

Would any of your employers treat this situation differently? I'd imagine most of us would at the very least be asked to take some time off as well, if not be outright fired.

It's just anther sign, that this guy just doesn't get it.

 

[Sabertooth]

tell him you are not trading him and force him to play or retire.

Yep. Take him behind the woodshed.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Rotoworld:

Adrian Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, said he doesn't "think it's in the best interests of Adrian Peterson to play for the Vikings."

The two sides appear to be on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. The Vikings have stated countless times how much they want Peterson back with the team in 2015, while Peterson's camp has erred on the side of caution, refusing to believe what's coming out of the Vikings' higher-ups mouths. Peterson reportedly felt betrayed by the Vikings last season during his child-abuse incident. This thing looks like it's headed for an inevitable divorce in the near future.

Source: Jason Cole on Twitter

Mar 23 - 6:36 PM

Does anyone find it odd, that Peterson felt "betrayed" by an employer that suspended him (with full pay), while he faced criminal charges for a heinous crime?

Would any of your employers treat this situation differently? I'd imagine most of us would at the very least be asked to take some time off as well, if not be outright fired.

It's just anther sign, that this guy just doesn't get it.

i would be ashamed to use that angle if i just got in trouble for beating my child. i am a peterson fan for his play but would love to see a guy who is trying to be heavy handed after beating his kid get the ultimate heavy hand. the team to say play here or quit.

 

[SayWhat?]

Used to be his biggest fan. At this point, he can pound sand. Guy is clueless.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Didnt he whip his kids scortum or something?

 

[Donnybrook]

Charles Robinson ‏@CharlesRobinson

The Adrian Peterson situation is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Plenty of bridges left to be napalmed.

He is following the Randy Moss blueprint for getting out of Oakland.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's only half following Moss' script. Moss quit on the field as well.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Moss was also willing to renegotiate his contract.

 

[daveR]

This is best opportunity for his agent to get more $$$ out of it.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

According to this article, the Vikings are worth 1.12B. So while it may seem like a huge amount of money to you and me, it's a drop in the bucket to pay or not pay Adrian Peterson for Ziggy Wilf. They guy has epic money, Wilf is worth an estimated 1.3 Billion dollars. Adrian's contract is approximately 1% of that endless sea of money.

And you think Adrian has a big ego? Think about what a small fish he is compared to Ziggy. Ziggy has chunks of guys like Adrian Peterson in his stool. Put another way, think of Wilf as a 220 lb once in a generation athlete with a stick. We can then think of Adrian Peterson as, oh I don't know, a 4 year old kid. Now lets see what happens when the Ziggy feels the need to exact punishment on Adrian.

http://www.forbes.com/teams/minnesota-vikings/

 

[Donnybrook]

Moss was also willing to renegotiate his contract.

There are reports that ADP is willing to renegotiate as well.

 

[Donnybrook]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

Assuming he's not there in spring (re: $250K workout bonus), Vikings don't owe Peterson a dime til Wk 1. Nothing forcing urgency from them.

 

[Nugget]

How much more posturing is needed by each side before AP is released?

more, alot more

Are we there yet?

 

[trader jake]

It's all posturing until a draft day (or so) trade. Don't sweat whatever back and forth non-sense both sides release between now and then...it's all a negotiation/media play.

I'd say the Vikings continue their baby games, eventually realizing AP wants nothing to do with them. AP quits his baby games and eventually realizes the Vikings will get him out of Minnesota only after he demands a trade publicly. The Vikings then trade AP to Arizona for a 2nd round selection. AP works out a restructured 3 yr/$25 mil deal with the Cardinals.

As entertaining as seeing Peterson run the ball behind the Cowboys offensive line could be, I just see Dallas going with a rookie RB in rounds 1 or 2. As many headlines as Jerry Jones may generate, it kind of appears like Stephen may be running the team a bit more than many are saying right now.

 

[Donnybrook]

I prefer to see Peterson in Tampa or Jacksonville rather than a contender. I imagine he will refuse to renegotiate his contract to facilitate a trade to those teams.

 

[davearm]

The notion that Peterson has zero leverage depends on two key assumptions:

1) the Vikings would want him back in the first place, and

2) the Vikings are OK paying him what his current contract calls for.

The first seems like the more prominent issue, IMO. I think the Vikings have done well to conceal it, but I don't think they want Peterson in their organization.

What gives you this idea? Just a hunch? Everything they have done has been about trying to get him to play in MN. The only reason they have been seeking a trade is because that's what he wants. To me it looks like they are bending over backwards to keep him.

Everything the Vikes did last fall was about trying to keep him off the field. They seemed more than happy to go along with the NFL and its indefinite suspension/exempt list strategy. Frankly I think the Vikes were thrilled and relieved not to have to face a tough decision on what to do with Peterson had he been cleared to play before 2014 was out.All of which leaves me feeling like they don't want him back, and that they decided early on that taking him back wasn't an option, and that what we're hearing from them now is 100% posturing/negotiating to get out with whatever they can muster in a trade.

If the trade option dries up, I'd bet they release him (despite their indication to the contrary).

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Adrian Peterson - RB - Vikings

Adrian Peterson's agent told USA Today that "we want out of Minnesota."

Peterson's agent is doing the dirty work here, as he came out on Wednesday and said he "doesn't think it's in the best interests of Peterson to play for the Vikings." The ball is in GM Rick Spielman's court, as he holds all the cards. The Vikings are in fine shape with the salary cap and can carry Peterson's $15 million-plus cap hit if they have to. And with Minnesota poised to take another step forward in Teddy Bridgewater's sophomore season, they may choose to hold onto A.D. More likely, the two sides go their separate ways. Arizona is a potential landing spot.

Source: USA Today

Mar 23 - 10:04 PM