Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (1 Viewer)

[Baloney Sandwich]

Asiata or McKinnon...which is the back to pick up?

Wondering the same thing.

x2 I am wondering who is the best back to pickup, thinking mckinnon

Once I saw that FBG was pimping McKinnon I picked up Asiata

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

He used to just put a belt, a stick, and wrench on the table. Just say "choose".

 

[Koya]

As a boy my father would spank us with a leather belt. If we were particularly bad he would use the buckle end of the belt on us. Welts and broken skin were not uncommon. The spankings (from his point of view), the beatings (from my point of view) did not teach me compliance or respect, they taught me defiance.

Would they, in the context of time/era and local norms, be considered discipline or abuse?

(My guess is the former)

I do not believe spankings were at all unusual in the community and in the time in which I was raised. Using belts, yards sticks, or paddles was not uncommon. Moving into the area of welts and open wounds would have likely been uncommon, though not unheard of.

My wife just told me how when she would be walking home from (school, wherever) her grandmother would look for and then find a nice branch to whoop them with when they got home.

Personally, I don't believe in corporal punishment. To me, it's the same theory of prostitution. Will you sleep with me for 500 bucks? "what, am i ####### whore?" - Will you sleep with me for ten million dollars? "well, hell yeah!" So, we've determined that you are a whore, the only remaining question is the price.

Do you believe in beating your kid? HELL NO. Do you believe in a light spanking? Well, of course.. you need to provide discipline!

Same ####### thing.

 

[fatness]

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance.

Tons of people in this country lose their jobs for reasons both good and bad. Tough #### for Rice and Peterson. They don't deserve any more sympathy than anyone else who's lost their job. They're not unemployable; they can do something else for a living. Stock shelves, move furniture, trim trees, sell used cars.

"Come see Adrian and he'll beat any price."

"Ray's dropping prices like crazy."

 

[GroveDiesel]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11514871/judicial-figures-show-ray-rice-deal-offered-rarely

I practice in New Jersey, thanks.

Yeah, we know. Which makes your deception about the commonality of PTI in this type of case all the more egregious.

 

[Sammy3469]

I just have to laugh at people that say corporal punishment of a child is OK. You hit an adult like that and it's assault. Yet it's somehow fine to hit a child like that. I'm just dumbfounded by the logic.

 

[Raider Nation]

I weep for America when I see what some people are writing on Twitter.

 

[Mister CIA]

As a boy my father would spank us with a leather belt. If we were particularly bad he would use the buckle end of the belt on us. Welts and broken skin were not uncommon. The spankings (from his point of view), the beatings (from my point of view) did not teach me compliance or respect, they taught me defiance.

Would they, in the context of time/era and local norms, be considered discipline or abuse?

(My guess is the former)

I do not believe spankings were at all unusual in the community and in the time in which I was raised. Using belts, yards sticks, or paddles was not uncommon. Moving into the area of welts and open wounds would have likely been uncommon, though not unheard of.

My wife just told me how when she would be walking home from (school, wherever) her grandmother would look for and then find a nice branch to whoop them with when they got home.

Personally, I don't believe in corporal punishment. To me, it's the same theory of prostitution. Will you sleep with me for 500 bucks? "what, am i ####### whore?" - Will you sleep with me for ten million dollars? "well, hell yeah!" So, we've determined that you are a whore, the only remaining question is the price.

Do you believe in beating your kid? HELL NO. Do you believe in a light spanking? Well, of course.. you need to provide discipline!

Same ####### thing.

Are Koya-ly announcing to the world that you are a prostitute with no boundaries?

 

[Sinn Fein]

I weep for America when I see what some people are writing on Twitter.

new here/to america/to twitter?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance.

Tons of people in this country lose their jobs for reasons both good and bad. Tough #### for Rice and Peterson. They don't deserve any more sympathy than anyone else who's lost their job. They're not unemployable; they can do something else for a living. Stock shelves, move furniture, trim trees, sell used cars.

"Come see Adrian and he'll beat any price."

"Ray's dropping prices like crazy."

Seriously. I don't understand why a guy who beat his fiancé unconscious and a guy that beat the crap out of his 4 year old shouldn't be fired. Especially when they are employed in a an entertainment job that involves a large degree of public relations. If people on the entertainment industry want to stay employed, perhaps they shouldn't do stuff that the public finds reprehensible to the point where they can no longer be entertained by that individual.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I weep for America when I see what some people are writing on Twitter.

Twitter blows

 

[Yankee23Fan]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11514871/judicial-figures-show-ray-rice-deal-offered-rarely

I practice in New Jersey, thanks.

Yeah, we know. Which makes your deception about the commonality of PTI in this type of case all the more egregious.

Thanks, I needed that.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance.

Tons of people in this country lose their jobs for reasons both good and bad. Tough #### for Rice and Peterson. They don't deserve any more sympathy than anyone else who's lost their job. They're not unemployable; they can do something else for a living. Stock shelves, move furniture, trim trees, sell used cars.

"Come see Adrian and he'll beat any price."

"Ray's dropping prices like crazy."

Seriously. I don't understand why a guy who beat his fiancé unconscious and a guy that beat the crap out of his 4 year old shouldn't be fired. Especially when they are employed in a an entertainment job that involves a large degree of public relations. If people on the entertainment industry want to stay employed, perhaps they shouldn't do stuff that the public finds reprehensible to the point where they can no longer be entertained by that individual.

We agree on that.

 

[Raider Nation]

I can't find it anymore, probably because someone told him to delete it, but a football player at Texas tweeted (not verbatim, but close) that "MORE kids need to get a beating."

 

[igbomb]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.

The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

Totally off-base. If it is legally acceptable for an organization to punish its employees beyond what the law would then the punishment that domestic abuse would generate has no bearing on whether the NFL's punishment is appropriate. The only indicator of appropriateness is what the customer base of the NFL finds appropriate and there is overwhelming support to kick Rice's butt out.

So I have no idea why you suggest that the Rice situation is a joke, seemingly because he wouldn't get as big of a punishment from the state. I'm rather certain there are a number of laws that you believe the state punishment is the wrong on (drug laws for one) so why should we assume that their domestic abuse punishment is appropriate.

You calling our culture ridiculous for actually wanting to put a stop to this kind of treatment of women and children is pretty ridiculous all around.

 

[igbomb]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I can't find it anymore, probably because someone told him to delete it, but a football player at Texas tweeted (not verbatim, but close) that "MORE kids need to get a beating."

Needs to be more specific.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.

The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

Totally off-base. If it is legally acceptable for an organization to punish its employees beyond what the law would then the punishment that domestic abuse would generate has no bearing on whether the NFL's punishment is appropriate. The only indicator of appropriateness is what the customer base of the NFL finds appropriate and there is overwhelming support to kick Rice's butt out.

So I have no idea why you suggest that the Rice situation is a joke, seemingly because he wouldn't get as big of a punishment from the state. I'm rather certain there are a number of laws that you believe the state punishment is the wrong on (drug laws for one) so why should we assume that their domestic abuse punishment is appropriate.

You calling our culture ridiculous for actually wanting to put a stop to this kind of treatment of women and children is pretty ridiculous all around.

Yeah, I said no such thing, but that's ok.

 

[sublimeone]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

 

[Raider Nation]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

 

[comfortably numb]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

Are you suggesting indefinitely suspending all black players?

 

[Koya]

Are Koya-ly announcing to the world that you are a prostitute with no boundaries?

A more accurate portrayal would be that the boundaries are directly proportionate to the purchase price.

 

[Koya]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

Are you suggesting indefinitely suspending all black players?

I suppose we should rid the NFL of all "traditional" and "nation loving" EYE-talians and EYE-rich NFLers too.

amirite?

 

[SIDA!]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

Are you suggesting indefinitely suspending all black players?

Are we looking to have a sincere discussion or do we just want to throw out one liners in an attempt to be funny or to completely mischaracterize what someone is saying?

 

[dparker713]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

 

[DrJ]

The REAL Adrian Peterson is a way better father than this. Unfortunately his son has a rare brain tumor.

 

[Al O'Pecia]

As a boy my father would spank us with a leather belt. If we were particularly bad he would use the buckle end of the belt on us. Welts and broken skin were not uncommon. The spankings (from his point of view), the beatings (from my point of view) did not teach me compliance or respect, they taught me defiance.

+1

Every word of it.

 

[dparker713]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.

The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

Except he does have a defense. Parental discipline means very different things in different parts of this country. And any corporation that weighs in on this subject is causing as many problems for itself as its solving.

 

[Sammy3469]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

Except he does have a defense. Parental discipline means very different things in different parts of this country. And any corporation that weighs in on this subject is causing as many problems for itself as its solving.

Assaulting a child is not discipline, it's assaulting a child.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

The genie is out of the bottle.

The Rice situation is a joke. PTI for a third degree offense is part of the NJ legal system. IT was a perfectly acceptable sentence given the circumstances including an uncooperative witness. The NFL then goes and punishes him more than the state can and would have. And people got up in arms because it wasn't enough. Then we see the video and today's culture of having to be the more outrages person in the room took over, social media exploded and a waive of stupidity has now awashed so many things that Roger Goodell could lose his job because..... he punished Rice more than the state did but it's not enough to..... the very people who helped created the PTI law to begin with.

And in that charged atmosphere we get this. ADP is going to get hammered because of the time his infraction was made public. Sometimes a perfect storm just catches you and you have no defense to it. It's stupid and the NFL shouldn't get involved. But it started getting itself involved in off the field stuff and slowly but surely that monster has now overtaken its daily operations.

Neither Rice nor ADP deserve to lose their livelihood over this but it looks like they are going to so that the social media frenzy of making sure everyone knows how outraged you are about something has just gotten too big and while everyone I'm sure hates it on some level.... the people that make the money, the sponsors, aren't going to take a chance. We've said it time and time again - if you get in the way of making money they are going to get rid of you so that you aren't in the way of making money anymore. Everyone in the NFL.... every single commissioner, front office person, GM, coach and player, is replaceable in the face of a $10 billion dollar business model.

Except he does have a defense. Parental discipline means very different things in different parts of this country. And any corporation that weighs in on this subject is causing as many problems for itself as its solving.

I'm not sure I agree with you there.

 

[TenTimes]

The REAL Adrian Peterson is a way better father than this. Unfortunately his son has a rare brain tumor.

The one who played for the Bears or whoever?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

What a maroon.

 

[squidrope]

Can't believe his texts. What a moron.

 

[Max Power]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

Already deleted with an apology issued. I don't know why Atlanta lets him keep this

 

[Sinn Fein]

Can't believe his texts. What a moron.

Hey, thats somebody's WR, guy.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

Already deleted with an apology issued. I don't know why Atlanta lets him keep this

We will know when we hit the truly absurd when players get suspended for twitter thoughts. Although some of them are really really stupid.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

Let's just hope they side with the rational folks who think beating their children is wrong.

 

[got_nugs]

I can't find it anymore, probably because someone told him to delete it, but a football player at Texas tweeted (not verbatim, but close) that "MORE kids need to get a beating."

I thought you were referring to a UT player in which case i'd assume he was just trying to recruit.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

I used to live in a poor black area. Black moms were definitely more apt to spank their kids very hard in public. They didn't show any reservation whatsoever about doing this in public so I assume the kids were getting even more of a beat down behind close doors. Adrian Peterson and Roddy White don't see the issue with this kind of discipline because it's likely the environment they both grew up in. There's definitely a cultural aspect to it.

 

[SIDA!]

This is going to launch a very interesting discussion about corporal punishment in America.

In looking at the pictures posted over at TMZ, those pictures suggest to me that Peterson went overboard on the punishment. It appears to me that he went too far. However, I am not necessarily of the opinion that what he did means he is an abusive father who should become a social pariah, lose his job, etc. I would need more information and facts.

I am really struggling with how our society is shifting so much into this social media realm where every jackass with a Twitter account or internet access can pop off and suggest that everything is black and white and act as if they are so above and beyond reproach for any of their conduct. We have this tendency at the moment to make momentous judgments and statements about incidents where we lack much of the context surrounding the events at hand.

I have two boys with a considerable age gap. With my first and when he was young and I was young, I look back and remember times when I spanked my boy too hard and got carried away. I know that being a young father that I was sometimes too quick to resort to spanking or a belt. With my younger son and now that I am older, I will still spank but with much less frequency. I believe there is a time and place for corporal punishment, but also believe that most of the time there are more constructive ways to handle the situation.

I know that when I was a kid, there were a lot of us that were punished similarly to how Peterson punished his son, or worse. I had a black friend who was the youngest of like 8 kids. He was one of those kids who just sometimes refused to obey his parents. He knew there were consequences and did it anyway. I know that he would get beat with electrical cords from the iron, broom handles, paddles, etc. There were times I got beat with the belt and many times that out of fear of the pain I tried to block the belt/strap with my hands only to end up getting marked up on my lower thighs, my sides, my hands, upper back, etc.

I am not saying that those punishments are healthy. But, I also have trouble faulting someone who grew up and was exposed to that environment incorporating that into how they handle the punishment of their kids.

There may be additional information that comes out so I reserve the right to change my mind. But, it just seems to me that we as a society need to find a way to balance consequences with education and rehabilitation. We need to find ways to help each other grow and become a stronger society and spend less time trying to demonize and tear people down.

I am getting sick of living in a world where every time someone does or says something we disagree with, we want to throw them into the abyss almost as if through some sort of bullying by national collective so that we can individually feel enlightened or better about ourselves.

Do we really want to live in a world where a private sports league is now required through political pressure to exact harsher punishments than our own justice system on people? Does Ray Rice really need to be banned from playing football for life because he behaved terribly one night in an elevator? I find it disgusting that he isn't in jail, but he is just a freaking football player. Do we really want to live in a world where a guy who was "taught" how to raise a child with a heavy hand or switch is demonized and turned into some monster instead of using it as a constructive exercise and a teaching moment for all of us? Do we really want to live in a world where someone who is raised by his family and church to believe that marriage is between a man and woman can be blackballed and kicked out of their CEO job?

Take the Michael Vick situation. I recently got into a debate with someone who lamented his continued playing in the NFL and bemoaned the negative influence he supposedly has on kids. I have never liked Vick, thought he was overrated as a player and didn't think too highly of him as a person. He made an egregious mistake. However, I genuinely believe that he has worked his butt off to learn from his mistakes, become a much better person and simply set a wonderful example of redemption and forgiveness. Yeah, some people will never get over what he did. I get it. But, I would much rather live in a world where I make a mistake, pay the consequences and still have an opportunity to redeem myself and truly get a second chance. Am I off base here?

Sorry for the stream of conscious semi-rant, but where is this all going?

 

[dparker713]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

Let's just hope they side with the rational folks who think beating their children is wrong.

Yep, condescending to your customers is always a great way to improve the bottom line.

 

[Raider Nation]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

Already deleted with an apology issued. I don't know why Atlanta lets him keep this

moar

 

[Sinn Fein]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

Already deleted with an apology issued. I don't know why Atlanta lets him keep this

moar

well, he got that part right. Florio and his minions are horses behinds.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

Let's just hope they side with the rational folks who think beating their children is wrong.

Yep, condescending to your customers is always a great way to improve the bottom line.

Are you suggesting they should cater to fans of child abuse?

 

[Sebowski]

It's a cultural problem. Black culture turns a blind eye and even encourages violence in some respects.

Are you suggesting indefinitely suspending all black players?

Are we looking to have a sincere discussion or do we just want to throw out one liners in an attempt to be funny or to completely mischaracterize what someone is saying?

The latter.

 

[dparker713]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

Let's just hope they side with the rational folks who think beating their children is wrong.

Yep, condescending to your customers is always a great way to improve the bottom line.

Are you suggesting they should cater to fans of child abuse?

I'm saying telling your customers how they should or shouldn't discipline their children is a losing proposition.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

He's done. At least a year. In this environment.... As long as Rice is out ADP is out.

The slope the NFL is sliding down is going to get out of control. Wait until the next DUI arrest. If there is no suspension some MADD activist looking for a headline is going to start screaming.

As Peterson has stated, this is the kind of discipline he received when he was younger. That isn't in the 50s. That's in the 90s. The pictures look horrible, but I seriously doubt there is nearly as much concensus on this as there is on the Rice case. This is an issue the NFL shouldn't want to get anywhere near in any capacity.

And all that did was turn him into someone who beats up 4 year olds. You don't see the reason why that excuse doesn't fly?

If this were an aberration, sure. But using a switch is not an aberration in many parts of the country. And as much as you may decry the practice, the choice to have the state regulate parental discipline is highly contentious. Hell, this happened in Texas. In Texas the schools can use corporal punishment. They couldn't even get an indictment with the first grand jury. This is not a place where the NFL can weigh in and not alienate a large segment of their consumer base. There is no national concensus and this case isn't going to create one.

Let's just hope they side with the rational folks who think beating their children is wrong.

Yep, condescending to your customers is always a great way to improve the bottom line.

Are you suggesting they should cater to fans of child abuse?

I'm saying telling your customers how they should or shouldn't discipline their children is a losing proposition.

They aren't. They are telling their employees that beating their kids is wrong.

 

[Sinn Fein]

As someone said above, this is very likely a cultural issue, that is not quite as black and white as many would like. Education is a more appropriate response than throwing your arms up in abject horror.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Yep... Roddy.

dipshit.

Already deleted with an apology issued. I don't know why Atlanta lets him keep this

moar

well, he got that part right. Florio and his minions are horses behinds.

Dude seems like the ultimate jock-sniffer.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Wait, ADP testified before the Grand Jury? That does fall into the he doesn't think he did anything wrong and cultural aspects of the entire argument.