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Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (1 Viewer)

Dan Lambskin said:
pollardsvision said:
Henry Ford said:
Apparently purple is the color of domestic violence awareness. Given the Ravens and Vikings issues this season, wouldn't be the worst idea...
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Awesome.

Though, some dual fundraising would be great. Pink & Purple jerseys and apparel would be pretty sweet. It's a little late in the game to make the switch, but hey, the kids in China don't need to sleep these next two weeks.
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Brilliant! 4% of sales to each charity...NFL can get some great publicity and save some money by not having 2 seperate months of donations
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A portion of each sales goes to ending domestic abuse.*

* Portion not guaranteed

 
eoMMan said:
FBG26 said:
eoMMan said:
Goodell with be speaking any minute now...

Any chance he resigns today?
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Anybody listening and hear the guy that got tazed/started screaming "don't take me to the elevator"? WTF?!?
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Yeah, I saw that. Not that funny.
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Didn't mean to insinuate it was funny. I am just listening so I didn't see what caused the incident. It just freaked me out when I heard him scream.ETA: Now I see what you are saying - didn't realize it was a stunt. Lame.

 
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Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.

 
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.

Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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I hear you. Here's an angle to consider:

You know how people often say "It's pro football ... it's not like your regular-joe job, it's not comparable." It's very true. Specifically, the ways that pro football is not like a regularl career are that (a) it's so public, and (b) it really is an entertainment business more than simply a sports-performance business.

The entertainment aspect of pro sports is important these days, because it means players (performers?) can be sanctioned simply for being viewed as reprehensible people. I think what Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson got sanctioned for is not all that different from what Donald Sterling, Mel Gibson, and Michael Richards got sanctioned for when you strip off the veneer. Take the applicable mental-shortcut labels: racists, wife-beaters, child-abusers, etc. and throw them into the hat called "reprehensible people". In the various entertainment businesses, these folks often (not 100%, of course) get it way worse from the public and their industries than they do from any government entity.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.

Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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If a team owner made these same types of mistakes Goodell is admitting - failing to apply the proper level of discipline - he would be fined $1M and probably suspended half a season.

 
ESPN is jumping the Goodell shark right now. I'm watching it. Showed the harsh Polian comments (some of it), have Dungy, some older blond chick and Bob Ley, and they are just ripping Goodell, and management that is utterly out of touch with what's actually happened. The Jen Sterger issues resurfacing as well.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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Except it's pretty clear from the OTL piece on Goodell that the reason the NFL did such half-hearted investigation and gave such a light initial suspension was because it was a favor to Goodelll's good friend Bisciotti. Goodell has consistently played favorites with different teams throughout his tenure and even circled the wagons by putting the two other owners he's closest with in charge of the investigation now. He could have done the right thing from the start, but chose to hand out a favor instead. He compromised the reputation and integrity of the entire league,

 
GroveDiesel said:
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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Except it's pretty clear from the OTL piece on Goodell that the reason the NFL did such half-hearted investigation and gave such a light initial suspension was because it was a favor to Goodelll's good friend Bisciotti. Goodell has consistently played favorites with different teams throughout his tenure and even circled the wagons by putting the two other owners he's closest with in charge of the investigation now. He could have done the right thing from the start, but chose to hand out a favor instead. He compromised the reputation and integrity of the entire league,
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Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
 
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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A lot more outrage coming after the ESPN story.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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Except it's pretty clear from the OTL piece on Goodell that the reason the NFL did such half-hearted investigation and gave such a light initial suspension was because it was a favor to Goodelll's good friend Bisciotti. Goodell has consistently played favorites with different teams throughout his tenure and even circled the wagons by putting the two other owners he's closest with in charge of the investigation now. He could have done the right thing from the start, but chose to hand out a favor instead. He compromised the reputation and integrity of the entire league,
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I also wouldn't reference the judicial system here to support any point. Rice never should have been eligible for that pre trial intervention program. From what I read it was explicitly limited to non violent victimless crimes (that was explicitly stated on the website for the program but the language was later removed once it began to receive scrutiny). And, as I've mentioned before, the prosecutor who recommended that for Rice was a Rutgers law school grad-where Rice went to school.

 
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?

 
Gandalf the Grey said:
GroveDiesel said:
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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Except it's pretty clear from the OTL piece on Goodell that the reason the NFL did such half-hearted investigation and gave such a light initial suspension was because it was a favor to Goodelll's good friend Bisciotti. Goodell has consistently played favorites with different teams throughout his tenure and even circled the wagons by putting the two other owners he's closest with in charge of the investigation now. He could have done the right thing from the start, but chose to hand out a favor instead. He compromised the reputation and integrity of the entire league,
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I also wouldn't reference the judicial system here to support any point. Rice never should have been eligible for that pre trial intervention program. From what I read it was explicitly limited to non violent victimless crimes (that was explicitly stated on the website for the program but the language was later removed once it began to receive scrutiny). And, as I've mentioned before, the prosecutor who recommended that for Rice was a Rutgers law school grad-where Rice went to school.
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I very aware of the legal system in new jersey and the prosecutor. I have no problem with him getting PTI given everything involved. People are mistaking law with discretion and rules with presumptions. But no matter. As for the new story.... ok? I really don't see a terrible on the part of the commissioner. In fact I think he comes off better but it looks like im in the minority there.

 
cstu said:
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?
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I don't get it. Did I make a grammatical error or some other Internet faux pas?
 
Yankee23Fan said:
Gandalf the Grey said:
GroveDiesel said:
Yankee23Fan said:
Doug B said:
Didn't hear the whole conference, only about 30 minutes of it. Sounds like Goodell will not only skate, but have none of this really stick to him.

Tell you what ... if he or any sitting commissioner in a major sport ever resign, it's going to have to be an all-of-the-sudden thing. The more time they withstand the media pressure, the more time they've got to craft a reasonable CYA response.

What I got out of the parts I heard: the NFL never had a policy for this stuff, therefore it was OK for me to make up things on the fly. Now I realize that's no longer accepted publicly, so we will craft new covering policy on this stuff going forward.

In a vacuum, that's reasonable and fair.
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I thought he did fine. He doesn't deserve to lose his job for all this - although I get the PR part of everything that ends up taking on a life of its own.Still, at the end of the day, for all the vitrol - The NFL punished Rice more than the judicial system. And now Rice is out of a job for the foreseeable future. ADP might never play again. And the other guys are getting kicked to the curb for the most part. While they didn't do it 100% right from the very start to satiate the mob, the fact is that they have done more and reacted faster than the government ever could. All the people screaming for more punishment and more puinshment seem to miss that part. And yes, many of us in our professions would be losing jobs and or being suspended - but not all. And not in every situation.

I guess I'm just tired of outrage.
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Except it's pretty clear from the OTL piece on Goodell that the reason the NFL did such half-hearted investigation and gave such a light initial suspension was because it was a favor to Goodelll's good friend Bisciotti. Goodell has consistently played favorites with different teams throughout his tenure and even circled the wagons by putting the two other owners he's closest with in charge of the investigation now. He could have done the right thing from the start, but chose to hand out a favor instead. He compromised the reputation and integrity of the entire league,
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I also wouldn't reference the judicial system here to support any point. Rice never should have been eligible for that pre trial intervention program. From what I read it was explicitly limited to non violent victimless crimes (that was explicitly stated on the website for the program but the language was later removed once it began to receive scrutiny). And, as I've mentioned before, the prosecutor who recommended that for Rice was a Rutgers law school grad-where Rice went to school.
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I very aware of the legal system in new jersey and the prosecutor. I have no problem with him getting PTI given everything involved. People are mistaking law with discretion and rules with presumptions. But no matter. As for the new story.... ok? I really don't see a terrible on the part of the commissioner. In fact I think he comes off better but it looks like im in the minority there.
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How the hell does he come out looking better in your eyes?

 
LarryAllen said:
cstu said:
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?
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I don't get it. Did I make a grammatical error or some other Internet faux pas?
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Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, and multiply the result by the average out of court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

 
LarryAllen said:
cstu said:
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?
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I don't get it. Did I make a grammatical error or some other Internet faux pas?
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No, he thinks you're Ed Norton.
 
TylerDurden said:
LarryAllen said:
cstu said:
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?
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I don't get it. Did I make a grammatical error or some other Internet faux pas?
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Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, and multiply the result by the average out of court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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Haha, that's awesome. I get it now."What company do you work for?"

"A major one."

 
TylerDurden said:
LarryAllen said:
cstu said:
LarryAllen said:
Welcome to corporate America. Goodell wouldn't be the commissioner if he always did what's morally correct, regardless of the consequences. I work for a very large company, that develops safety critical products. While they definitely design for safety, they also have to balance the degree of safety and redundancy with cost. Every now and then, that leads to incidents with fielded products, resulting in very bad publicity. Those specific issues are then resolved, often costing huge $ in design fixes and positive PR campaigns. They've always been able to use this strategy without ever tanking or changing the general philosophy of balancing risk and cost. The NFL ignored Domestic Violence for decades because it never impacted their bottom line. The fact the issue came to light involving high profile players and a series of offenses in a short amount of time has forced their hand. They'll go overboard and cut some of their bottom line to instill public trust. Soon, this will be forgotten and the league will be back to normal. In 5-10 years, the NFL will face another adversity similar to this, but on another topic. They'll repeat the process. Sacrifice a few lambs, launch a public campaign in support of a solution, implement changes to manage the specific issue and move on.
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Do you have a really cool friend who no one else can see?
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I don't get it. Did I make a grammatical error or some other Internet faux pas?
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Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, and multiply the result by the average out of court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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ROTFLMAO at the alias with 250 posts magically appearing after the cstu comment. Sweet!

 
This probably won't help Peterson's public image problem:

Did Adrian Peterson Really Use His Charity To Fund A Wild, Four-Woman Orgy?

Let thee who hasn’t used a charity’s credit card to fund a wild sex-a-thon cast the first used condom. According to the Star Tribune, Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson had a crazy night of drunken sex with four women at the Eden Prairie Hotel in 2011. One of the attendees at the party said he paid for the room with a credit card from Peterson’s All Day, Inc. That company is Peterson’s charity, which helps at-risk children, particularly girls get back on their feet. Shameless and ironic, a terrible combination.

Here are the details of said sex-a-thon.

The 38-page police report details a night of drinking, arguing and sex that involved the running back, two relatives — including Peterson’s brother, a minor — and four women, in various pairs. One of those present, Chris Brown, a Peterson relative who lives with him in Eden Prairie, told police that he paid for the room using a company credit card for Peterson’s All Day, Inc.

As the night wore on, the report says, one woman who said she knew Peterson previously became upset when she saw him having sex with another woman. She started an argument that lasted at least an hour. According to the report, when she told him that she was “emotionally attached to him,” Peterson reminded her that he was engaged to another woman and had a baby.
The Star Tribune goes on to detail some more oddities from All Day, Inc. which shut down its website following Adrian Peterson’s indictment on child abuse charges.

 
Al O said:
belljr said:
I have no issues with the orgy itself
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While I have no issues with orgies, it's a little odd to simultaneously rail out skeezers next to your underage brother.
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Especially when those skeezers and their soon to be daughters are supposed to be helped by this very charity.

Then again, getting knocked up by an NFL a pro isn't a bad pay day if correctly played.

 
I think all of you football fans ought to back the eff off. We have courts for this sort of thing. This is Wilf Football Corporation business and the other 31 fan blocks can suck it.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Al O said:
belljr said:
I have no issues with the orgy itself
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While I have no issues with orgies, it's a little odd to simultaneously rail out skeezers next to your underage brother.
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In fairness to AP, my guess is he has a suite so chances are he was in one room while his brother was in another. I would think they the rotated the four girls by mixing and matching all four in two person groups.
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Is that really an orgy, then? It's very important that we get this right.

 
One of those present, Chris Brown, a Peterson relative who lives with him in Eden Prairie, told police that he paid for the room using a company credit card for Peterson’s All Day, Inc.
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First of all, if you're a young, rich superstar football player and not having wild orgies then you're going it wrong.

Second, this guy Chris Brown paid for the room, not Peterson. He's the one misusing charity funds.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Al O said:
belljr said:
I have no issues with the orgy itself
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While I have no issues with orgies, it's a little odd to simultaneously rail out skeezers next to your underage brother.
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In fairness to AP, my guess is he has a suite so chances are he was in one room while his brother was in another. I would think they the rotated the four girls by mixing and matching all four in two person groups.
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Is that really an orgy, then? It's very important that we get this right.
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soft orgy

 
cstu said:
First of all, if you're a young, rich superstar football player and not having wild orgies then you're going it wrong.
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In this modern media age, walking at least somewhat straighter and narrower has a lot of benefits.

Being as selective and discreet as your fame/money will allow is also a winning play. Hangers-on have dar less to lose than you do.

 
cstu said:
One of those present, Chris Brown, a Peterson relative who lives with him in Eden Prairie, told police that he paid for the room using a company credit card for Peterson’s All Day, Inc.
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First of all, if you're a young, rich superstar football player and not having wild orgies then you're going it wrong.

Second, this guy Chris Brown paid for the room, not Peterson. He's the one misusing charity funds.
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The bolded doesn't matter. The public still hears...

- Adrian Peterson

- Wild orgy

- Double penetration

- Paid for with charity funds

 
cstu said:
One of those present, Chris Brown, a Peterson relative who lives with him in Eden Prairie, told police that he paid for the room using a company credit card for Peterson’s All Day, Inc.
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First of all, if you're a young, rich superstar football player and not having wild orgies then you're going it wrong.

Second, this guy Chris Brown paid for the room, not Peterson. He's the one misusing charity funds.
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So AP is hanging out with Chris Brown?

This explains the beatings he likes to give.

 
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